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On February 16 2013 19:37 risk.nuke wrote:
Okey, I'd like some reasoning from everyone that voted on anyone. Zess/yamato voters why you voted one over the other. I don't care if it's "I just sheeped x" as long as it's true. And if what pathetically little some of you had for reasoning really is all you had that is fine too but you will be held accountable for that.
why don't you start?
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but yes, it's a good idea.
I didn't even read yamatos filter, I completely sheeped everyone else there, because i wanted to survive.
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On February 16 2013 19:15 syllogism wrote:Did you make this image on your cellphone?
On February 16 2013 06:46 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I'll be back before the deadline to change to vivax if that actually takes off and zess doesn't.
WIth this, I meant that I was going home. You'll see my next post was almost an hour later, as I had gone home.
On February 16 2013 19:37 risk.nuke wrote:
Okey, I'd like some reasoning from everyone that voted on anyone. Zess/yamato voters why you voted one over the other. I don't care if it's "I just sheeped x" as long as it's true. And if what pathetically little some of you had for reasoning really is all you had that is fine too but you will be held accountable for that.
I only voted to ensure a lynch. I had a bad feeling about Yamato's flip but in the end I decided on a whim that him flipping was better than no flip at all.
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On February 16 2013 06:28 risk.nuke wrote:
I'm still can't see Zess as being supersoft.
Earlier I felt like killing him and the only thing stopping me was the lurkers. My sentiment haven't changed. I will back a lynch on someone who've done jack this game. Otherwise
##Vote: Zessionar
On February 16 2013 07:16 risk.nuke wrote:
I've changed my mind, I don't want to lynch Vivax. He used to be in my done-jack pile and I recalled his recent accusations as rather week. On a second look he actually looks fairly fine, and at very least better then that I would trust a last minute vote switch too him.
On February 16 2013 07:34 risk.nuke wrote:
Can't for the life of me understand what yamato have done to warrant being lynched over Zess. Seriously what are you doing! Zess who straight out changed his mind about his reasoning when questioned. That fucking translates to he made up his reasoning.
Can somebody tell me why a townie would do that?
On February 16 2013 07:59 risk.nuke wrote:
I will fry your lurking arses so hard tomorrow if yamato flips green.
##vote: yamato
On February 16 2013 08:04 risk.nuke wrote:
stop posting on your non-smurf accounts. It's against the rules.
And shit supersoft. you've changed to the worse.
On February 16 2013 08:05 risk.nuke wrote:
... Dumbest fucking luck I ever saw...
you have a lot of explaining to do my friend.
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"I will back a lynch on someone who've done jack this game."
is a contradiction to:
"Can't for the life of me understand what yamato have done to warrant being lynched over Zess."
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"I'm still can't see Zess as being supersoft."
shows that you didn't read the thread
"Zess who straight out changed his mind about his reasoning when questioned. That fucking translates to he made up his reasoning."
please go into detail. I think you're only referring to your own memory there without even reading what i've done in between. Your reasoning is terrible and you obviously didn't read the thread.
However you're damn sure that I am a better lynch than yamato.
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On February 16 2013 19:45 Zessionar wrote:Show nested quote +On February 16 2013 19:37 risk.nuke wrote:
Okey, I'd like some reasoning from everyone that voted on anyone. Zess/yamato voters why you voted one over the other. I don't care if it's "I just sheeped x" as long as it's true. And if what pathetically little some of you had for reasoning really is all you had that is fine too but you will be held accountable for that. why don't you start?
I made it pretty fucking clear how I felt about the lynch and why.
yamato was first a weak bandwagon and when nobody wanted to actually discuss lynches people just fell back on him with some weak meta excuse which according to marv wasn't even accurate.
What pissed me of last night was nobody could provide me an argument for why yamato was a better lynch then zess and still he had racked up the most votes. It felt like the easiest scumwagon ever.
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On February 16 2013 20:02 Zessionar wrote:
please go into detail. I think you're only referring to your own memory there without even reading what i've done in between. Your reasoning is terrible and you obviously didn't read the thread.
Okey so you did not call me a bad townplayer and good scumplayer. And then changed your mind to I was a bad townplayer and a bad scumplayer?
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On February 16 2013 00:40 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On February 16 2013 00:38 Zessionar wrote:On February 16 2013 00:35 marvellosity wrote:On February 16 2013 00:32 syllogism wrote:On February 16 2013 00:19 sandroba wrote:
Btw yamato wagon, despite meeting very little resistance, could very well be right too, he is doing very little compared to what I've seen from him in his past town games.
@Yamato if you are town this game you need to step up, because from the game we played together I know you can be way more useful than this. I still don't like this post by him and the longer post in which he explains it and some other things seems overdone. On February 15 2013 01:40 yamato77 wrote:
Well I guess it makes sense since he jumped on me for the same kind of shit.
Do I see a trend appear? Who's next on his list, Marv? Another thing that makes Yamato a compelling lynch are his interactions with Marv. Marv questioned him a bit after I called yamato out for this post, but it was pretty weak and he didn't go anywhere with it. He also seemed to jump on anyone who voted yamato. I may be overreading because that would be a rather audacious mafia strategy, but I think Marvel should have been suspicious of yamato at that stage. Yet he seemed more worried about the people voting for him, in a way that looked exaggerated to me. Please provide evidence for all of this. Because it's not how I recall anything happening at all. No he's right. What he's saying makes perfect sense... I asked you to give some more reasoning for your vote on jiro (was that hiro? i believe so) when he voted yamato for no reason. I didn't think about it back then, but syllo hit the nail right on the head. You look so confident that yamato is town, that you don't even try to question yamato before you "counter-vote" hiros vote. You know what i am saying... that's pretty scummy of you btw :D as in, whether yamato is town or mafia is irrelevant to how hiro made his vote
On February 16 2013 00:42 Zessionar wrote:Show nested quote +On February 16 2013 00:40 marvellosity wrote:On February 16 2013 00:38 Zessionar wrote:On February 16 2013 00:35 marvellosity wrote:On February 16 2013 00:32 syllogism wrote:On February 16 2013 00:19 sandroba wrote:
Btw yamato wagon, despite meeting very little resistance, could very well be right too, he is doing very little compared to what I've seen from him in his past town games.
@Yamato if you are town this game you need to step up, because from the game we played together I know you can be way more useful than this. I still don't like this post by him and the longer post in which he explains it and some other things seems overdone. On February 15 2013 01:40 yamato77 wrote:
Well I guess it makes sense since he jumped on me for the same kind of shit.
Do I see a trend appear? Who's next on his list, Marv? Another thing that makes Yamato a compelling lynch are his interactions with Marv. Marv questioned him a bit after I called yamato out for this post, but it was pretty weak and he didn't go anywhere with it. He also seemed to jump on anyone who voted yamato. I may be overreading because that would be a rather audacious mafia strategy, but I think Marvel should have been suspicious of yamato at that stage. Yet he seemed more worried about the people voting for him, in a way that looked exaggerated to me. Please provide evidence for all of this. Because it's not how I recall anything happening at all. No he's right. What he's saying makes perfect sense... I asked you to give some more reasoning for your vote on jiro (was that hiro? i believe so) when he voted yamato for no reason. I didn't think about it back then, but syllo hit the nail right on the head. You look so confident that yamato is town, that you don't even try to question yamato before you "counter-vote" hiros vote. You know what i am saying... that's pretty scummy of you btw :D as in, whether yamato is town or mafia is irrelevant to how hiro made his vote no i don't think so: If Hiro votes scum for absolutely no reason, that's not scummy at all. If hero votes town for no reason, that's scummy.
On February 16 2013 00:42 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On February 16 2013 00:42 Zessionar wrote:On February 16 2013 00:40 marvellosity wrote:On February 16 2013 00:38 Zessionar wrote:On February 16 2013 00:35 marvellosity wrote:On February 16 2013 00:32 syllogism wrote:On February 16 2013 00:19 sandroba wrote:
Btw yamato wagon, despite meeting very little resistance, could very well be right too, he is doing very little compared to what I've seen from him in his past town games.
@Yamato if you are town this game you need to step up, because from the game we played together I know you can be way more useful than this. I still don't like this post by him and the longer post in which he explains it and some other things seems overdone. On February 15 2013 01:40 yamato77 wrote:
Well I guess it makes sense since he jumped on me for the same kind of shit.
Do I see a trend appear? Who's next on his list, Marv? Another thing that makes Yamato a compelling lynch are his interactions with Marv. Marv questioned him a bit after I called yamato out for this post, but it was pretty weak and he didn't go anywhere with it. He also seemed to jump on anyone who voted yamato. I may be overreading because that would be a rather audacious mafia strategy, but I think Marvel should have been suspicious of yamato at that stage. Yet he seemed more worried about the people voting for him, in a way that looked exaggerated to me. Please provide evidence for all of this. Because it's not how I recall anything happening at all. No he's right. What he's saying makes perfect sense... I asked you to give some more reasoning for your vote on jiro (was that hiro? i believe so) when he voted yamato for no reason. I didn't think about it back then, but syllo hit the nail right on the head. You look so confident that yamato is town, that you don't even try to question yamato before you "counter-vote" hiros vote. You know what i am saying... that's pretty scummy of you btw :D as in, whether yamato is town or mafia is irrelevant to how hiro made his vote no i don't think so: If Hiro votes scum for absolutely no reason, that's not scummy at all. If hero votes town for no reason, that's scummy. no, that's just wrong.
On February 16 2013 00:43 Zessionar wrote:Show nested quote +On February 16 2013 00:42 marvellosity wrote:On February 16 2013 00:42 Zessionar wrote:On February 16 2013 00:40 marvellosity wrote:On February 16 2013 00:38 Zessionar wrote:On February 16 2013 00:35 marvellosity wrote:On February 16 2013 00:32 syllogism wrote:On February 16 2013 00:19 sandroba wrote:
Btw yamato wagon, despite meeting very little resistance, could very well be right too, he is doing very little compared to what I've seen from him in his past town games.
@Yamato if you are town this game you need to step up, because from the game we played together I know you can be way more useful than this. I still don't like this post by him and the longer post in which he explains it and some other things seems overdone. On February 15 2013 01:40 yamato77 wrote:
Well I guess it makes sense since he jumped on me for the same kind of shit.
Do I see a trend appear? Who's next on his list, Marv? Another thing that makes Yamato a compelling lynch are his interactions with Marv. Marv questioned him a bit after I called yamato out for this post, but it was pretty weak and he didn't go anywhere with it. He also seemed to jump on anyone who voted yamato. I may be overreading because that would be a rather audacious mafia strategy, but I think Marvel should have been suspicious of yamato at that stage. Yet he seemed more worried about the people voting for him, in a way that looked exaggerated to me. Please provide evidence for all of this. Because it's not how I recall anything happening at all. No he's right. What he's saying makes perfect sense... I asked you to give some more reasoning for your vote on jiro (was that hiro? i believe so) when he voted yamato for no reason. I didn't think about it back then, but syllo hit the nail right on the head. You look so confident that yamato is town, that you don't even try to question yamato before you "counter-vote" hiros vote. You know what i am saying... that's pretty scummy of you btw :D as in, whether yamato is town or mafia is irrelevant to how hiro made his vote no i don't think so: If Hiro votes scum for absolutely no reason, that's not scummy at all. If hero votes town for no reason, that's scummy. no, that's just wrong. no that's correct in this case we have right here, since hiro said he'd provide more evidence.
On February 16 2013 00:44 marvellosity wrote:
so what if he said he would? he hadn't and just dropped his vote.
your point of view only has any credence if you know people's alignments ahead of time, which I don't, and unless you're mafia, you don't either.
On February 16 2013 00:46 Zessionar wrote:Show nested quote +On February 16 2013 00:44 marvellosity wrote:
so what if he said he would? he hadn't and just dropped his vote.
your point of view only has any credence if you know people's alignments ahead of time, which I don't, and unless you're mafia, you don't either. lol now you're twisting my words, since i accuse you of knowing yamatos alignment :D
Check the first nested quote:
No he's right. What he's saying makes perfect sense... I asked you to give some more reasoning for your vote on jiro (was that hiro? i believe so) when he voted yamato for no reason.
I didn't think about it back then, but syllo hit the nail right on the head.
You look so confident that yamato is town, that you don't even try to question yamato before you "counter-vote" hiros vote.
You know what i am saying... that's pretty scummy of you btw :D
Ok, supersoft agrees with syllo on yamato being a decent lynch cause of his interactions with marv...Since marv, according to him and syllo, blindly defended yamato. But in truth his opinion differs from syllo's, since contrary to syllo, SS seems extremely sure that yamato is town, cause of this post that implies that Hiro's vote was a scummy vote on town with no justification:
no i don't think so:
If Hiro votes scum for absolutely no reason, that's not scummy at all.
If hero votes town for no reason, that's scummy.
In the end, he accused marv of knowing yamato's alignment, which apparently he looked sure to be town, but...
On February 15 2013 23:04 Zessionar wrote:
Okay, we have about 9 hours left if i am correct:
2. ObviousOne Filter
4. Mattchew Filter
7. HiroPro Filter
10. Hopeless1der Filter
11. Artanis[Xp] Filter
13. yamato77 Filter
14. grush57 Filter
15. layabout Filter
in the next 5 hours, i want everyone to focus on these players. I know it's half of the players in this game.
One of them will be lynched today.
in 5 hours, we will break the list down to 4 of them and in 7 hours i want only 2 of them left and in 8 hours, i want to have one guy with enough votes for a lynch.
that's my plan. Marv, toad I expect you to be helping me there.
Yamato was in his list...As townread?
His next posts don't mention yamato or marv anyway, he quickly lost interest after arguing with marv and he goes casual about other players. Both not in his list.
On February 16 2013 03:06 Zessionar wrote:
I still think we should lynch one of the people on my list.
Toad is kind of scummy, he might be a good lynch but well, day1 went as it went, and i refuse to lynch players with more than one filter :-o
risk.nuke, you might wanna post something here again... you're still playing right?
To me it looks like Zess overreacted to marv's defensive behavior regarding yamato, similar to Toad's last mafia where mafia JX immediately attacked a player defending his scumbuddy thrawn about to get lynched (which he in truth wasn't defending).
Then, he keeps yamato in his list when it's obvious he read him as town in front of marv, and votes for him in the end when he has the excuse of sheeping on the yamato wagon for self-preservation, which is sadly impossible to use to prove he was bussing yamato, but keeping him in a scumread list when it seems to be a townread looks obvious enough to me: He kept the option of bussing open for himself.
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Yamato voted Zess very early on and not in a way that suggests it was a bus. Indeed, a few people justified their yamato votes with his evolving explanations as to why he was suspicious of Zess. In addition, Zess was the only wagon besides yamato that gained any traction, even though it would have been quite trivial to push a bunch of other wagons. Zess's anger/disdain towards the people who were voting for him also felt genuine; it's quite difficult to fake something like that convincingly.
If you are town you ought to spend your time elsewhere for the time being as it's completely irrational to focus on the day 1 counterwagon to a mafia lynch, in particular with the votes this close.
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You have any hints on who I should be looking into?
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it's true, doesn't matter if you don't like it.
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LOL can't wait for postgame, I'll rub it into your face while you chew on dirty leather.
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sure, sure. look into the other 3 if you don't believe that you're mafia. I don't have to convince you.
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Vivax must be some kind of a modern biblical plague...
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I'll look at my own preferences, yours are clearly flawed.
Syllo, who should I be looking into again?
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On February 16 2013 21:35 Zessionar wrote:
Vivax must be some kind of a modern biblical plague...
ahahahahaha. I genuinely loled.
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On February 16 2013 21:35 Zessionar wrote:
Vivax must be some kind of a modern biblical plague...
Who do you want to lynch tomorrow?
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On February 16 2013 21:36 Vivax wrote:
I'll look at my own preferences, yours are clearly flawed.
Syllo, who should I be looking into again?
Use your own judgment, but obviously the people who weren't willing to vote Yamato look worse. Still, it feels like there should be at least one mafia on the yamato wagon and it's pretty unlikely for the whole mafia team to be among people who aren't even playing (grush,coag,obviousone,mattchew). I'm thinking that one of the people I'm leaning town on right now is mafia.
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