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HiroPro
United States2624 Posts
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layabout
United Kingdom2600 Posts
AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!! | ||
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Artanis[Xp]
Netherlands12968 Posts
Also, half the evening I was posting from my cellphone whilst at a gig in honor of my Dad's 60th birthday. I might not have been as observant then as I normally am. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36158 Posts
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Vivax
21937 Posts
On February 16 2013 08:24 HiroPro wrote: Btw, everyone should note that Artanis was not the majority voter on yamato - he came afterwards. Additionally, he was a person who constantly defended yamato by attempting to frame the case on him as being about lurking instead the extremely strange behavior in the beginning (which Artanis also attempted to explain away) and by complaining about the wagon being fast. The most suspicious part about the wagon thing is where he says the yamato wagon is too fast while ignoring the super wagon which was actually bigger and faster-developing. I took a look at it, and I also noticed that while he argues that the bandwagon didn't pick up with enough reasoning. On February 16 2013 04:39 Artanis[Xp] wrote: I'm more comfortable with zess as he didn't randomly start picking up speed without reasoning. Actually checked over it again and it was only one vote, but the sentiment seems to be that everyone's happy to lynch him which worries me. It's hard for me to keep track right now though. Given this reasoning, why didn't he actually take a closer look at the players voting for yamato? Asking why they did it? Noticed, for example, that my inital vote on him was just a pressure vote and not a vote decisive for lynching him. Looks to me like he found yamato's bandwagon scummy without further digging among the people actually making it scummy. I wouldn't expect that motivation to lack if he really believed what he said. | ||
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WeWinMafia
Bahamas102 Posts
On February 16 2013 08:30 marvellosity wrote: and if you don't care who hammered mafia, you shouldn't be playing mafia, frankly. You hammering yamato has nothing to do with your alignment. If you're town you hammered him although you thought he's a bad lynch because you wanted to avoid a NL. If you're mafia you hammered him because you were scared some random townie might hammer him to avoid a NL and feared to be forced into action. Both are perfectly fine explanations for the situation we've got and saying one or the other is more likely is bullshit right now. Given the fact that you have been willing to vote everyone and their dog except for yamato prior to deadline I'd say the 2nd one is far more likely. | ||
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Vivax
21937 Posts
On February 16 2013 08:30 marvellosity wrote: and if you don't care who hammered mafia, you shouldn't be playing mafia, frankly. Mostly the people being sure of him before you. But you seem to be used to your own arrogance despite flipflopping with your vote at the end. You didn't play as big of a role as you think there, and I'm not mafia either marv. Get down your high horse and start playing by considering yourself a human being. | ||
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Mattchew
United States5684 Posts
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Artanis[Xp]
Netherlands12968 Posts
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Zessionar
Azerbaijan178 Posts
but i am slightly less suspicious of marv right now... | ||
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Vivax
21937 Posts
On February 16 2013 08:33 Artanis[Xp] wrote: I thought the Yamato train was strange because there was seemingly no reasoning for it. It was a very weak case. Regarding Zess, we actually argued over him a lot, yet Yamato just came up and people were all up for lynching him which worried me greatly. That's why I found the Yamato train far stranger than Zess. Also, half the evening I was posting from my cellphone whilst at a gig in honor of my Dad's 60th birthday. I might not have been as observant then as I normally am. But people suddenly joining in and wanting to lynch me was perfectly fine? That includes you by the way. Without mentioning a single reason. | ||
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Mattchew
United States5684 Posts
Congrats guys I have to go read why that lynch happened and worked now | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36158 Posts
On February 16 2013 08:35 Vivax wrote: Mostly the people being sure of him before you. But you seem to be used to your own arrogance despite flipflopping with your vote at the end. You didn't play as big of a role as you think there, and I'm not mafia either marv. Get down your high horse and start playing by considering yourself a human being. i'm not saying it makes me definitively town, but i went over to yamato, and artanis came with me, specifically citing me as the reason for doing so. quite important. | ||
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WeWinMafia
Bahamas102 Posts
On February 16 2013 08:38 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Yeah Matt, we lynched scum in the last minute so the natural first thing to do is to scrutinize those that hammered him. Would you rather look into people who voted him early? | ||
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Vivax
21937 Posts
On February 16 2013 08:39 Zessionar wrote: If 4 people claim to be the hammer :D but i am slightly less suspicious of marv right now... Others actually seem to be suspicious of him and his attitude regarding yamato. What are your reasons? | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36158 Posts
On February 16 2013 08:34 WeWinMafia wrote: You hammering yamato has nothing to do with your alignment. If you're town you hammered him although you thought he's a bad lynch because you wanted to avoid a NL. If you're mafia you hammered him because you were scared some random townie might hammer him to avoid a NL and feared to be forced into action. Both are perfectly fine explanations for the situation we've got and saying one or the other is more likely is bullshit right now. Given the fact that you have been willing to vote everyone and their dog except for yamato prior to deadline I'd say the 2nd one is far more likely. ok dear. in your world it's more likely that mafia want to kill mafia, than town want to kill mafia. when shit is close, usually things get polarised. remember this? On May 20 2012 06:42 Qatol wrote: I think it would be useful to have a full vote count for day 1. Just something to keep in mind for later. (Reposting this from the voting thread.) [UoN]Sentinel: 9 Snarfs risk.nuke Qatol (from PaqMan) Misder Barundar Bluelightz slOosh (from PaqMan) sandroba marvellosity risk.nuke: 8 Zephirdd Mattchew [UoN]Sentinel zelblade Toadesstern (from [UoN]Sentinel) hiro protagonist Palmar PaqMan | ||
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Artanis[Xp]
Netherlands12968 Posts
On February 16 2013 08:39 Vivax wrote: But people suddenly joining in and wanting to lynch me was perfectly fine? That includes you by the way. Without mentioning a single reason. I didn't include a single reason because I just remember lots of people calling your current play bad, and I didn't think scum would try to start a whole new train this far in the lynch so it felt genuine. I didn't have the time to go into it further. | ||
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Artanis[Xp]
Netherlands12968 Posts
On February 16 2013 08:40 WeWinMafia wrote: Would you rather look into people who voted him early? I would rather look into what connections were made with Yamato early in the game when he wasn't at risk of getting lynched yet, yes. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36158 Posts
On February 16 2013 08:40 Vivax wrote: Others actually seem to be suspicious of him and his attitude regarding yamato. What are your reasons? funny when at the last minute you would have been quite happy with a no lynch, telling us to vote zessionar. And yet some of us actually lynched yamato, right at the death. Not you though. Funny isn't it? | ||
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Vivax
21937 Posts
On February 16 2013 08:39 marvellosity wrote: i'm not saying it makes me definitively town, but i went over to yamato, and artanis came with me, specifically citing me as the reason for doing so. quite important. I didn't question your townieness, I want to remind you that you're giving yuorself too much credit for that lynch, and I'd like if you revisited my play in this game, cause I'm not scum and to me it looks like you get overly confident based on so little. It has pretty heavy consequences as you have seen. You attracted people wanting to lynch me out of nowhere and with no reason cause your word weighs so heavy, and that should make you sceptical of your read if you weren't so sure of yourself. You're not infallible either, marv. | ||
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