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Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
February 14 2013 13:10 GMT
#181
On February 14 2013 22:03 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2013 21:47 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On February 14 2013 21:29 Vivax wrote:
Zess, scumreads? Do you think I'm town?

Why are you asking someone if they think you're town, especially this early in the game?


Can't you think of a reason?

Can't think of any where asking about scumreads wouldn't be better than town reads.
Speaking of which. Who do you currently think is scum?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22166 Posts
February 14 2013 13:17 GMT
#182
On February 14 2013 22:10 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2013 22:03 Vivax wrote:
On February 14 2013 21:47 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On February 14 2013 21:29 Vivax wrote:
Zess, scumreads? Do you think I'm town?

Why are you asking someone if they think you're town, especially this early in the game?


Can't you think of a reason?

Can't think of any where asking about scumreads wouldn't be better than town reads.
Speaking of which. Who do you currently think is scum?


Mattchew and WeWin have made bad posts so far, layabout didn't give a fuck about the votes on him and his activity has been grotesque.

What about your scumreads?You think I'm town?
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
February 14 2013 13:21 GMT
#183
On February 14 2013 08:41 Zessionar wrote:
i picked risk.nuke, because he's decent as scum and useless and paranoid as town...
if he's town, i hope he'll prove me wrong this game...

Zess, how exagerated was this statement? You immediately backed off, but I'd like to hear about where you drew the conclusions that risk was
A) decent as scum
B) Useless and paranoid as town

Either of the two would be acceptable, as I think you're scum for pulling reasons out of thin air with no justification.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
February 14 2013 13:29 GMT
#184
I picked Marv because he is extremely talented and willing to openly discuss his ideas and reads at length. In the games I have played with Sandroba or Syllo, they are both also extremely talented but often short and directly to the point and sometimes I dont see things the way they do, and they are tough to get further explanation from.

Risk, I don't see anyone as town until proven otherwise.



Artanis what do you think of Vivax's scumreads post

Vivax how many games of mafia would you say you've played
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Zessionar
Profile Joined February 2013
Azerbaijan178 Posts
February 14 2013 13:32 GMT
#185
On February 14 2013 22:21 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2013 08:41 Zessionar wrote:
i picked risk.nuke, because he's decent as scum and useless and paranoid as town...
if he's town, i hope he'll prove me wrong this game...

Zess, how exagerated was this statement? You immediately backed off, but I'd like to hear about where you drew the conclusions that risk was
A) decent as scum
B) Useless and paranoid as town

Either of the two would be acceptable, as I think you're scum for pulling reasons out of thin air with no justification.


both statements were exagerated, but I know what I am talking about.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
February 14 2013 13:33 GMT
#186
On February 14 2013 22:17 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2013 22:10 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On February 14 2013 22:03 Vivax wrote:
On February 14 2013 21:47 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On February 14 2013 21:29 Vivax wrote:
Zess, scumreads? Do you think I'm town?

Why are you asking someone if they think you're town, especially this early in the game?


Can't you think of a reason?

Can't think of any where asking about scumreads wouldn't be better than town reads.
Speaking of which. Who do you currently think is scum?


Mattchew and WeWin have made bad posts so far, layabout didn't give a fuck about the votes on him and his activity has been grotesque.

What about your scumreads?You think I'm town?

I don't like Risk.nuke questioning posts that are obviously meant as a joke and taking them seriously (Zessioniar's initial vote), then defending himself by saying he's a poor scum player. I don't like WeWin or hiro for keeping information from town but I don't put much weight on it. I don't think Mattchew looks scum, that post doesn't feel scummy to me. Bad, yes, but not scummy.
I also don't like your posts because they focus a lot on you and trying to find out what your image is. If you're town, you should be finding scum, not trying to find out how other people think about you. The post on WeWin I like though. Points out the same thing Risk.Nuke was doing; taking peopel posting for a laugh too serious. Considering both things you're null to me.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
February 14 2013 13:34 GMT
#187
On February 14 2013 22:32 Zessionar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2013 22:21 Hopeless1der wrote:
On February 14 2013 08:41 Zessionar wrote:
i picked risk.nuke, because he's decent as scum and useless and paranoid as town...
if he's town, i hope he'll prove me wrong this game...

Zess, how exagerated was this statement? You immediately backed off, but I'd like to hear about where you drew the conclusions that risk was
A) decent as scum
B) Useless and paranoid as town

Either of the two would be acceptable, as I think you're scum for pulling reasons out of thin air with no justification.


both statements were exagerated, but I know what I am talking about.

If you know what you are talking about (I am still quite skeptical), then why are you unwilling to share with the rest of the class?
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
February 14 2013 13:40 GMT
#188
On February 14 2013 22:29 Mattchew wrote:
Artanis what do you think of Vivax's scumreads post

Anyone can name three names, but there's not much to go off yet. It doesn't really say anything to me other than information to help with reads later.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22166 Posts
February 14 2013 13:40 GMT
#189
Artanis, why hasn't a single of your posts been directed towards these players if you have reason to believe they are scum?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22166 Posts
February 14 2013 13:43 GMT
#190
Hey matt:

Asking someone else about my scumread post, then asking me a question of which the answer would be useless for determining my alignment.

You don't seem to be as interested into me as you make it look like.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
February 14 2013 13:46 GMT
#191
I wanna know if your playing nervous and new or nervous or nervous and forced
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
February 14 2013 13:51 GMT
#192
On February 14 2013 22:40 Vivax wrote:
Artanis, why hasn't a single of your posts been directed towards these players if you have reason to believe they are scum?

WinWin and HiroPro were already being pressured with the exact question I had, so I didn't feel the need to post it as well. I also don't see what answer risk.nuke could give to a question regarding not taking my post seriously yet taking that of Zess serious in any way that would help my read on him since it was about a gut response that would now be reasoned. Also, it's only a small tell to me, not enough to judge someone over immediately. I'd rather see if he gives me more reason to suspect him in future interactions.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22166 Posts
February 14 2013 13:56 GMT
#193
On February 14 2013 22:46 Mattchew wrote:
I wanna know if your playing nervous and new or nervous or nervous and forced


Define playing nervously please. Take a seat, share your thoughts.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
February 14 2013 13:58 GMT
#194
I kind of share Mattchew's condition of being generally unable to read Marv day1. His choice of giving him a green check is like a placeholder saying 'do not lynch', not an actual town read. (At least that is my interpretation) Nothing scummy about it to me, as he seems to be interested in picking marv's brain at some point.

Yamato seems to genuinely not know about the sandro/syllo dynamic:
On February 14 2013 17:07 yamato77 wrote:
Why would Syllo think buddying sandro this early is a good idea, if he's town?

Assuming that yamato doesn't know of their ability to read one another (S/S), this question seems reasonable as risk alluded to the relationship.


On February 14 2013 22:33 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2013 22:17 Vivax wrote:
On February 14 2013 22:10 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On February 14 2013 22:03 Vivax wrote:
On February 14 2013 21:47 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On February 14 2013 21:29 Vivax wrote:
Zess, scumreads? Do you think I'm town?

Why are you asking someone if they think you're town, especially this early in the game?


Can't you think of a reason?

Can't think of any where asking about scumreads wouldn't be better than town reads.
Speaking of which. Who do you currently think is scum?


Mattchew and WeWin have made bad posts so far, layabout didn't give a fuck about the votes on him and his activity has been grotesque.

What about your scumreads?You think I'm town?

I don't like Risk.nuke questioning posts that are obviously meant as a joke and taking them seriously (Zessioniar's initial vote), then defending himself by saying he's a poor scum player. I don't like WeWin or hiro for keeping information from town but I don't put much weight on it. I don't think Mattchew looks scum, that post doesn't feel scummy to me. Bad, yes, but not scummy.
I also don't like your posts because they focus a lot on you and trying to find out what your image is. If you're town, you should be finding scum, not trying to find out how other people think about you. The post on WeWin I like though. Points out the same thing Risk.Nuke was doing; taking peopel posting for a laugh too serious. Considering both things you're null to me.


I don't mind risk defending himself by calling himself bad scum because Zess didn't justify anything in either his vote or his followup. I personally read that as an attack against Zess, not a defense. I also disagree that Zess was strictly joking about it, as he still maintains that he kind of has reasons that he wont divulge.



On February 14 2013 22:17 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2013 22:10 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On February 14 2013 22:03 Vivax wrote:
On February 14 2013 21:47 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On February 14 2013 21:29 Vivax wrote:
Zess, scumreads? Do you think I'm town?

Why are you asking someone if they think you're town, especially this early in the game?


Can't you think of a reason?

Can't think of any where asking about scumreads wouldn't be better than town reads.
Speaking of which. Who do you currently think is scum?


Mattchew and WeWin have made bad posts so far, layabout didn't give a fuck about the votes on him and his activity has been grotesque.

What about your scumreads?You think I'm town?

Vivax, show me these "bad posts" from WWM (WeWinMafia) please. I have a slight bone to pick. I know they're kind of in your filter, but I'd like you to do it again if you'd be so kind.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22166 Posts
February 14 2013 14:06 GMT
#195
Vivax, show me these "bad posts" from WWM (WeWinMafia) please. I have a slight bone to pick. I know they're kind of in your filter, but I'd like you to do it again if you'd be so kind.


I'm not so kind with people asking me to do pointless things.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
February 14 2013 14:09 GMT
#196
I do not believe the exercise to be pointless, but your distasteful response has been noted.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22166 Posts
February 14 2013 14:22 GMT
#197
Hopeless, you think supersoft Zessionar is scum?
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
February 14 2013 14:47 GMT
#198
Vivax can you please refrain from antagonizing people just for kicks? It's way more helpful to answer his questions and check out his follow up.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22166 Posts
February 14 2013 15:07 GMT
#199
I'm not antagonizing him for kicks, it's just pointless to ask for something he knows anyway. I'd rather have him ask for my opinion on someone rather than asking me to quote myself.

We should probably all just hug each other and smalltalk right.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
February 14 2013 15:09 GMT
#200
On February 14 2013 23:22 Vivax wrote:
Hopeless, you think supersoft Zessionar is scum?

This is where I'd probably play the "Why don't you go read my filter" card, but I suspect you've done that and you're fishing for my

##Vote: Zessionar

Is this acceptable?

On February 15 2013 00:07 Vivax wrote:
I'm not antagonizing him for kicks, it's just pointless to ask for something he knows anyway. I'd rather have him ask for my opinion on someone rather than asking me to quote myself.

We should probably all just hug each other and smalltalk right.

You noticed you'd misquoted WWM believing it to be Zess. I wanted you to go back over it to verify your opinion and show me, with full knowledge of who you were talking about, what you had a problem with because your filter contains false accusations and exaggerated conclusions (on the assumption it was Zess).
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