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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
February 14 2013 08:24 GMT
#161
Okey maybe I phrased that poorly. People often associate Syllogism and Sandroba as a couple. And not only because their nicks starts with an S. They talk a lot privately about mafia and reads and they claim to be able to read each other quite well.

So it's not unusual at all that Syllogism would ask sandroba what he thinks of something in order to help get a read on him or just simply because he wants his respected second opinion.
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
Zessionar
Profile Joined February 2013
Azerbaijan178 Posts
February 14 2013 08:27 GMT
#162
you better explain me, why you think it's not a good idea.
Zessionar
Profile Joined February 2013
Azerbaijan178 Posts
February 14 2013 08:30 GMT
#163
you better explain me, why you think it's not a good idea.
Zessionar
Profile Joined February 2013
Azerbaijan178 Posts
February 14 2013 08:38 GMT
#164
##unvote risk.nuke

##vote: yamato


since risk makes sense and yamato has to explain his stuff
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
February 14 2013 09:51 GMT
#165
What does yamato need to explain when all he's done is ask questions?
##vote: Zessionar
For making statements that don't make sense.
Zessionar
Profile Joined February 2013
Azerbaijan178 Posts
February 14 2013 10:25 GMT
#166
i an voting you for stupidity after yamato answered my question.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
February 14 2013 10:35 GMT
#167
Then I am voting you again for OMGUS after I already voted for you.
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
February 14 2013 11:53 GMT
#168
@syllo I don't see anything alignment indicative in matchew's post. If anything, it's slightly townie to say something like that, even though it's not a good way to go about things. I wonder why you singled out that post instead of zessionar who over explained his risk vote and when confronted about his explanation he backed off.

syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
February 14 2013 12:08 GMT
#169
On February 14 2013 20:53 sandroba wrote:
@syllo I don't see anything alignment indicative in matchew's post. If anything, it's slightly townie to say something like that, even though it's not a good way to go about things. I wonder why you singled out that post instead of zessionar who over explained his risk vote and when confronted about his explanation he backed off.


I singled it out because it was one of the few posts with somewhat controversial content and I wanted to see if you would reach reach the same conclusion as I did, which you did. Zessionar's explanation didn't jump out to me as over explaining. I looked at him again and while his explanation seems somewhat nonsensical, he has been fairly active and spammy so far, which is slightly towny. I also think that his question asking why someone else is smurfing is feels genuine, in particular because he himself appears to be smurfing and perhaps thought that WeWinMafia's reasons for smurfing differ from his, perhaps in a way that to him might be alignment indicative.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22183 Posts
February 14 2013 12:14 GMT
#170
##Vote mattchew


I am going to open this game playing as if I know mattchew is scum. WUT WHY?!

I don't believe I can discern mattchew's scum from town early in the game and he is typically very open to discussion and explainations of his thought process (unlike a sandroba type player).

thats all for now

No it's not. If he tells us he isn't able to read marv, he might as well tend to pressure him, instead he goes for a trollread and doesn't do anything else.

@ Sandro


What exactly is so townie about that post?
Zessionar
Profile Joined February 2013
Azerbaijan178 Posts
February 14 2013 12:25 GMT
#171
On February 14 2013 21:08 syllogism wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2013 20:53 sandroba wrote:
@syllo I don't see anything alignment indicative in matchew's post. If anything, it's slightly townie to say something like that, even though it's not a good way to go about things. I wonder why you singled out that post instead of zessionar who over explained his risk vote and when confronted about his explanation he backed off.


I singled it out because it was one of the few posts with somewhat controversial content and I wanted to see if you would reach reach the same conclusion as I did, which you did. Zessionar's explanation didn't jump out to me as over explaining. I looked at him again and while his explanation seems somewhat nonsensical, he has been fairly active and spammy so far, which is slightly towny. I also think that his question asking why someone else is smurfing is feels genuine, in particular because he himself appears to be smurfing and perhaps thought that WeWinMafia's reasons for smurfing differ from his, perhaps in a way that to him might be alignment indicative.


i am not sure if it's alignment indicative just yet. but yes, i never thought about pretending i am someone else, like he is... at least not as town, since smurfing in general is rather antitown - confusing everyone else with even more strange stuff seems to be too much.
but he just could have made that part up, to keep his identity covered. right now he looks like toadesstern to me... with all the smilies...

On February 14 2013 19:35 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Then I am voting you again for OMGUS after I already voted for you.


anyway... do you think syllos play is strange if he's town?
if not, do you think yamatos question implies that it's strange?
if yes, do think it's scummy to call syllos play strange, when it actually isnt strange at all?

Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22183 Posts
February 14 2013 12:28 GMT
#172
If you look at the posting timeline between 09:17 and 11:03, Zessionar sticks out.

On February 14 2013 10:50 WeWinMafia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2013 10:47 grush57 wrote:
Anyone there who wants to join in?
Nobody has done something stupid yet to start a real discussion going. :'(


Care to explain?


Would you need explanation for what grush said? Is there a followup by Zess? Does this look like a useful question?
No.

On February 14 2013 11:03 WeWinMafia wrote:
why Layabout?


Again, pointless question, no followup in front of obvious troll votes by grush and Oo.

2 questions while lurking in a 2 hour timeline, no generation of discussion whatsoever, no aggression, but looks serious about what he's doing.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22183 Posts
February 14 2013 12:29 GMT
#173
Zess, scumreads? Do you think I'm town?
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
February 14 2013 12:42 GMT
#174
Vivax I assume you mean WeWinMafia, not Zessionar, in which case I agree. I don't consider it likely that he was going to fake claim Sandroba no matter which alignment he rolled, in particular with me playing. It's difficult to assign a mafia or town motivation for that "i prepared a bunch of traits pregame so i can fake claim whomever" post, but the post doesn't seem to serve any discernable purpose. It feels to me like a post that he believes will be interpreted as towny, which could be a mafia motivation.

WeWinMafia if you are town, you should claim your identity because some of what I said above is only applicable if you are who I think you are.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
February 14 2013 12:42 GMT
#175
On February 14 2013 21:25 Zessionar wrote:
anyway... do you think syllos play is strange if he's town?

No, because you want to get information out of others since you already know your own role. You can do that by pressure or by asking questions. Since apparently they have history, I don't find it surprising he'd go after Sandroba.
if not, do you think yamatos question implies that it's strange?
if yes, do think it's scummy to call syllos play strange, when it actually isnt strange at all?

His post was before risk clarified that syllo and sandroba knew eachother well and that they can tell if the other is scum quickly. If he simply didn't understand the logic behind it, then I would consider it null. If he does know about their meta, then I'd consider it slightly strange/scummy. I would assume they have meta from the way syllo formulated his question, but I can understand the question.
Zessionar
Profile Joined February 2013
Azerbaijan178 Posts
February 14 2013 12:45 GMT
#176
1. I am not wewinmafia.
2. It's page 2 of the game and you posted twice.
3. doesnt matter since you're unreadable anyways.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
February 14 2013 12:47 GMT
#177
On February 14 2013 21:29 Vivax wrote:
Zess, scumreads? Do you think I'm town?

Why are you asking someone if they think you're town, especially this early in the game?
Zessionar
Profile Joined February 2013
Azerbaijan178 Posts
February 14 2013 12:48 GMT
#178
On February 14 2013 21:42 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2013 21:25 Zessionar wrote:
anyway... do you think syllos play is strange if he's town?

No, because you want to get information out of others since you already know your own role. You can do that by pressure or by asking questions. Since apparently they have history, I don't find it surprising he'd go after Sandroba.
Show nested quote +
if not, do you think yamatos question implies that it's strange?
if yes, do think it's scummy to call syllos play strange, when it actually isnt strange at all?

His post was before risk clarified that syllo and sandroba knew eachother well and that they can tell if the other is scum quickly. If he simply didn't understand the logic behind it, then I would consider it null. If he does know about their meta, then I'd consider it slightly strange/scummy. I would assume they have meta from the way syllo formulated his question, but I can understand the question.


unvote me.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22183 Posts
February 14 2013 13:01 GMT
#179
Wtf I'm derp >_> . Thought I read Zess there, damn smurfs.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22183 Posts
February 14 2013 13:03 GMT
#180
On February 14 2013 21:47 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2013 21:29 Vivax wrote:
Zess, scumreads? Do you think I'm town?

Why are you asking someone if they think you're town, especially this early in the game?


Can't you think of a reason?
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