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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 14 2013 15:52 GMT
#221
On February 15 2013 00:49 Mattchew wrote:
Hey Marv, have you played with vivax and is he perceptive enough to pick up on supersoft being a smurf, also how do you feel about syllos and sandrobas mini conversation in the thread...


Sure, he was the first to properly pick up on me when I was smurfing in LIX.

I don't feel much about syllo/sand. Mainly I'm hoping to god they're not both mafia, as in any other circumstance they can figure each other out and let me know
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
February 14 2013 15:54 GMT
#222
On February 15 2013 00:21 Zessionar wrote:
you vote me, because you dont want to look suspicious?
is that correct?

I voted for you because I find YOU suspicious, and I felt Vivax was going to jump all over me for not voting because he's pigheaded that way.



On February 15 2013 00:20 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2013 00:09 Hopeless1der wrote:
On February 14 2013 23:22 Vivax wrote:
Hopeless, you think supersoft Zessionar is scum?

This is where I'd probably play the "Why don't you go read my filter" card, but I suspect you've done that and you're fishing for my

##Vote: Zessionar

Is this acceptable?

On February 15 2013 00:07 Vivax wrote:
I'm not antagonizing him for kicks, it's just pointless to ask for something he knows anyway. I'd rather have him ask for my opinion on someone rather than asking me to quote myself.

We should probably all just hug each other and smalltalk right.

You noticed you'd misquoted WWM believing it to be Zess. I wanted you to go back over it to verify your opinion and show me, with full knowledge of who you were talking about, what you had a problem with because your filter contains false accusations and exaggerated conclusions (on the assumption it was Zess).


Show me these false accusations and exaggerated conclusions please.

COMING RIGHT UP, SIR!

On February 14 2013 21:28 Vivax wrote:
If you look at the posting timeline between 09:17 and 11:03, Zessionar sticks out.

Show nested quote +
On February 14 2013 10:50 WeWinMafia wrote:
On February 14 2013 10:47 grush57 wrote:
Anyone there who wants to join in?
Nobody has done something stupid yet to start a real discussion going. :'(


Care to explain?


Would you need explanation for what grush said? Is there a followup by Zess? Does this look like a useful question?
No.
Missing Response Here? (See spoiler)
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On February 14 2013 11:00 WeWinMafia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2013 10:51 grush57 wrote:
On February 14 2013 10:50 WeWinMafia wrote:
On February 14 2013 10:47 grush57 wrote:
Anyone there who wants to join in?
Nobody has done something stupid yet to start a real discussion going. :'(


Care to explain?

Hello, nice to know your here.
Usually someone does something outrageous so people can actually put opinions out on it to create actual discussion and then by how people react can clue in on their roles, ya see?

funny. And here I thought we already had some of those guys.


Oh there it is

Show nested quote +
On February 14 2013 11:03 WeWinMafia wrote:
why Layabout?


Again, pointless question, no followup in front of obvious troll votes by grush and Oo.

2 questions while lurking in a 2 hour timeline, no generation of discussion whatsoever, no aggression, but looks serious about what he's doing.

Zess posted at 09:17, not WWM. Inconsequential in the grand scheme except it was a driving point about how he had 2 hours to do things, and didn't do things. The timestamps are even in the post you quoted.
You completely ignored the followup to grush. It wasn't terrific, but it was there, and to me looks more trolly than serious, contrary to your last sentence. Certainly, a difference in opinion, but when you willfully exclude information to suit your read, it looks scummy.

I asked you to verify your standpoint by revisiting the filters you so haphazardly dove, and instead you've spit in my face. However, I know you can be an abrasive player. Which is why I went out of my way to point out that I know you'd already answered the question I asked. I still wanted it answered again.
The lapse in you reading Zess as WWM's filter might explain why you were confused, instead of pushing a scummy read with no backing.

Zessionar
Profile Joined February 2013
Azerbaijan178 Posts
February 14 2013 15:58 GMT
#223
On February 15 2013 00:41 marvellosity wrote:
risk has played 2 games of mafia where he literally lurked all game and was finally killed because he hadn't done a single townie thing all game. This is not "decent" at mafia.

Similarly, he can be quite perceptive as town. Your anaylsis and justification for voting him are just nonsense.


hahaha, i just wanted to say something nice along with useless and paranoid...
quite perceptive... yeah i dont think so. risk used to be like vivax. he didnt read, but kept posting derailing stuff.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 14 2013 16:00 GMT
#224
On February 15 2013 00:58 Zessionar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2013 00:41 marvellosity wrote:
risk has played 2 games of mafia where he literally lurked all game and was finally killed because he hadn't done a single townie thing all game. This is not "decent" at mafia.

Similarly, he can be quite perceptive as town. Your anaylsis and justification for voting him are just nonsense.


hahaha, i just wanted to say something nice along with useless and paranoid...
quite perceptive... yeah i dont think so. risk used to be like vivax. he didnt read, but kept posting derailing stuff.


So... you voted for him because you think he's bad at town and bad at mafia? That makes no sense

If he's bad at mafia then he's catchable, and your entire reasoning is nonsense.

Come clean please
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Zessionar
Profile Joined February 2013
Azerbaijan178 Posts
February 14 2013 16:03 GMT
#225
where are you going with that shit, marv?
do you want to make me look bad because of my super-earlygame posts?
screw you.
discussion ends right here.
layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
February 14 2013 16:04 GMT
#226
On February 15 2013 00:54 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2013 00:21 Zessionar wrote:
you vote me, because you dont want to look suspicious?
is that correct?

I voted for you because I find YOU suspicious, and I felt Vivax was going to jump all over me for not voting because he's pigheaded that way.

+ Show Spoiler +


On February 15 2013 00:20 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2013 00:09 Hopeless1der wrote:
On February 14 2013 23:22 Vivax wrote:
Hopeless, you think supersoft Zessionar is scum?

This is where I'd probably play the "Why don't you go read my filter" card, but I suspect you've done that and you're fishing for my

##Vote: Zessionar

Is this acceptable?

On February 15 2013 00:07 Vivax wrote:
I'm not antagonizing him for kicks, it's just pointless to ask for something he knows anyway. I'd rather have him ask for my opinion on someone rather than asking me to quote myself.

We should probably all just hug each other and smalltalk right.

You noticed you'd misquoted WWM believing it to be Zess. I wanted you to go back over it to verify your opinion and show me, with full knowledge of who you were talking about, what you had a problem with because your filter contains false accusations and exaggerated conclusions (on the assumption it was Zess).


Show me these false accusations and exaggerated conclusions please.

COMING RIGHT UP, SIR!

On February 14 2013 21:28 Vivax wrote:
If you look at the posting timeline between 09:17 and 11:03, Zessionar sticks out.

Show nested quote +
On February 14 2013 10:50 WeWinMafia wrote:
On February 14 2013 10:47 grush57 wrote:
Anyone there who wants to join in?
Nobody has done something stupid yet to start a real discussion going. :'(


Care to explain?


Would you need explanation for what grush said? Is there a followup by Zess? Does this look like a useful question?
No.
Missing Response Here? (See spoiler)
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On February 14 2013 11:00 WeWinMafia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2013 10:51 grush57 wrote:
On February 14 2013 10:50 WeWinMafia wrote:
On February 14 2013 10:47 grush57 wrote:
Anyone there who wants to join in?
Nobody has done something stupid yet to start a real discussion going. :'(


Care to explain?

Hello, nice to know your here.
Usually someone does something outrageous so people can actually put opinions out on it to create actual discussion and then by how people react can clue in on their roles, ya see?

funny. And here I thought we already had some of those guys.


Oh there it is

Show nested quote +
On February 14 2013 11:03 WeWinMafia wrote:
why Layabout?


Again, pointless question, no followup in front of obvious troll votes by grush and Oo.

2 questions while lurking in a 2 hour timeline, no generation of discussion whatsoever, no aggression, but looks serious about what he's doing.

Zess posted at 09:17, not WWM. Inconsequential in the grand scheme except it was a driving point about how he had 2 hours to do things, and didn't do things. The timestamps are even in the post you quoted.
You completely ignored the followup to grush. It wasn't terrific, but it was there, and to me looks more trolly than serious, contrary to your last sentence. Certainly, a difference in opinion, but when you willfully exclude information to suit your read, it looks scummy.

I asked you to verify your standpoint by revisiting the filters you so haphazardly dove, and instead you've spit in my face. However, I know you can be an abrasive player. Which is why I went out of my way to point out that I know you'd already answered the question I asked. I still wanted it answered again.
The lapse in you reading Zess as WWM's filter might explain why you were confused, instead of pushing a scummy read with no backing.


Why would this worry you if your town?
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Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22408 Posts
February 14 2013 16:04 GMT
#227
On February 15 2013 00:43 Mattchew wrote:
You forced out reads that seemed like you wanted to answer his question more than you actually cared about the content of your reads


The content was already laid out in my previous post. Artanis question looked pointless to me as well cause of that, but he was so polite to answer my questions that I did the same.

Matt, who are your current subjects of interest?
Zessionar
Profile Joined February 2013
Azerbaijan178 Posts
February 14 2013 16:05 GMT
#228
On February 15 2013 01:03 Zessionar wrote:
where are you going with that shit, marv?
do you want to make me look bad because of my super-earlygame posts?
screw you.
discussion ends right here.


and risk played a decent scumgame in bureaucrazy.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
February 14 2013 16:13 GMT
#229
On February 15 2013 01:04 layabout wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2013 00:54 Hopeless1der wrote:
On February 15 2013 00:21 Zessionar wrote:
you vote me, because you dont want to look suspicious?
is that correct?

I voted for you because I find YOU suspicious, and I felt Vivax was going to jump all over me for not voting because he's pigheaded that way.

+ Show Spoiler +


On February 15 2013 00:20 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2013 00:09 Hopeless1der wrote:
On February 14 2013 23:22 Vivax wrote:
Hopeless, you think supersoft Zessionar is scum?

This is where I'd probably play the "Why don't you go read my filter" card, but I suspect you've done that and you're fishing for my

##Vote: Zessionar

Is this acceptable?

On February 15 2013 00:07 Vivax wrote:
I'm not antagonizing him for kicks, it's just pointless to ask for something he knows anyway. I'd rather have him ask for my opinion on someone rather than asking me to quote myself.

We should probably all just hug each other and smalltalk right.

You noticed you'd misquoted WWM believing it to be Zess. I wanted you to go back over it to verify your opinion and show me, with full knowledge of who you were talking about, what you had a problem with because your filter contains false accusations and exaggerated conclusions (on the assumption it was Zess).


Show me these false accusations and exaggerated conclusions please.

COMING RIGHT UP, SIR!

On February 14 2013 21:28 Vivax wrote:
If you look at the posting timeline between 09:17 and 11:03, Zessionar sticks out.

Show nested quote +
On February 14 2013 10:50 WeWinMafia wrote:
On February 14 2013 10:47 grush57 wrote:
Anyone there who wants to join in?
Nobody has done something stupid yet to start a real discussion going. :'(


Care to explain?


Would you need explanation for what grush said? Is there a followup by Zess? Does this look like a useful question?
No.
Missing Response Here? (See spoiler)
+ Show Spoiler +
On February 14 2013 11:00 WeWinMafia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2013 10:51 grush57 wrote:
On February 14 2013 10:50 WeWinMafia wrote:
On February 14 2013 10:47 grush57 wrote:
Anyone there who wants to join in?
Nobody has done something stupid yet to start a real discussion going. :'(


Care to explain?

Hello, nice to know your here.
Usually someone does something outrageous so people can actually put opinions out on it to create actual discussion and then by how people react can clue in on their roles, ya see?

funny. And here I thought we already had some of those guys.


Oh there it is

Show nested quote +
On February 14 2013 11:03 WeWinMafia wrote:
why Layabout?


Again, pointless question, no followup in front of obvious troll votes by grush and Oo.

2 questions while lurking in a 2 hour timeline, no generation of discussion whatsoever, no aggression, but looks serious about what he's doing.

Zess posted at 09:17, not WWM. Inconsequential in the grand scheme except it was a driving point about how he had 2 hours to do things, and didn't do things. The timestamps are even in the post you quoted.
You completely ignored the followup to grush. It wasn't terrific, but it was there, and to me looks more trolly than serious, contrary to your last sentence. Certainly, a difference in opinion, but when you willfully exclude information to suit your read, it looks scummy.

I asked you to verify your standpoint by revisiting the filters you so haphazardly dove, and instead you've spit in my face. However, I know you can be an abrasive player. Which is why I went out of my way to point out that I know you'd already answered the question I asked. I still wanted it answered again.
The lapse in you reading Zess as WWM's filter might explain why you were confused, instead of pushing a scummy read with no backing.


Why would this worry you if your town?

I wouldn't worry, except Vivax asked a leading question, and that explanation was the only reasonable conclusion I could arrive at. Zess accused me of trying to evade suspicion, and I explained my actions and my motivations for doing so.
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
February 14 2013 16:14 GMT
#230
On February 15 2013 00:51 syllogism wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2013 00:41 yamato77 wrote:
On February 15 2013 00:36 syllogism wrote:
On February 15 2013 00:33 yamato77 wrote:
I've never seen syllo and sandro in the game at the same time, yet I'm supposed to know they're all buddy buddy all the time?

Zess being stupid with that vote. Why are you trying to accuse me over questioning syllo's intentions?

What did you think about the post of mine you asked risk about?

At first I thought it weird, because I saw you as attempting to get sandro's read while giving nothing from yourself. There are two explanations, one that you're mafia and trying to buddy strong town Sandro, or two that you're town trying to get a read on him. I asked because it's still weird if you're town to pick Sandro, but knowing now that you guys do it all the time it makes more sense.

But you did exactly the same thing when you asked risk a question. Why did you choose risk? Would it have been weird if you had asked Sandro?

Risk was there and had just posted, and I wanted to know then. Plus he made a silly post drawing conclusions from Matt's post without hearing out what he thought he was trying to accomplish, so getting him to give his take on your post was beneficial to my getting a read on him.

What he did say ended up being alignment null. Apparently everyone knows this, except me.
Writer@WriterYamato
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22408 Posts
February 14 2013 16:16 GMT
#231
@ Hopeless

What are your reads of WeWin and Zess?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22408 Posts
February 14 2013 16:17 GMT
#232
bleh, nevermind Zess. But I'd like to know your take on WeWin.
WeWinMafia
Profile Joined February 2013
Bahamas102 Posts
February 14 2013 16:18 GMT
#233
On February 15 2013 00:25 sandroba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2013 11:00 WeWinMafia wrote:
On February 14 2013 10:51 grush57 wrote:
On February 14 2013 10:50 WeWinMafia wrote:
On February 14 2013 10:47 grush57 wrote:
Anyone there who wants to join in?
Nobody has done something stupid yet to start a real discussion going. :'(


Care to explain?

Hello, nice to know your here.
Usually someone does something outrageous so people can actually put opinions out on it to create actual discussion and then by how people react can clue in on their roles, ya see?

funny. And here I thought we already had some of those guys.


Care to point out what posts you found outrageous? This string of questions do indeed seem pointless especially given the lack of follow up.

sure, here you go:

On February 14 2013 07:13 Coagulation wrote:
hey guys im town.
On February 14 2013 07:21 WeWinMafia wrote:
awesome Coag is town. Only 14 more people to figure out.
On February 14 2013 07:33 Zessionar wrote:
13, since I am town, too

Not outrageous but people trolling each other. Usually that kind of stuff attracts new guys and they ask what's going on, just like Grush thought it would happen.
On February 14 2013 07:38 Zessionar wrote:
##vote: risk.nuke

he has a 26,66 % chance to flip scum.

a (supposedly?) random vote done by Zess 30 minutes into the game. Again, something people usually talk about early on if they don't know the guy who's proposing it.
On February 14 2013 07:41 Zessionar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2013 07:37 WeWinMafia wrote:
anyone could say that now that we have established this method of figuring out people...


well, but since I think I know why you think he's town, I think both of you are town and you're even more townish to me.
Again Zess and me trolling each other when there's nothing in the thread yet. I replied with utter bullshit and he replied with utter bullshit to my bullshit. Got to admit I was laughing pretty good around that time especially when I saw Coags smurf comment.

So that's why I wanted him to explain. From my point of view we had a bunch of people trolling each other, not being serious, except for risk who got in the thread defending himself because of a random (?) vote on him by some nobody noone was taking serious anyways.
So if anything I would have expected grush to say something along the lines of "weird that noone's picking up on those things" rather than have him state that none of those things exist, which made me think he's either not reading or taking everything serious.

When he answered the laya/risk-question I realized that I asked grush that question and that I'm not going to get anything useful out of him anyways so I ignored him. I thought he might answer seriously because I considered risk's behavior early on to be overdefensive for no reason and grush had him down as one of the two guys to lynch as well so I assumed he in serious mode.
I win mafia!
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
February 14 2013 16:18 GMT
#234
On February 14 2013 22:33 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2013 22:17 Vivax wrote:
On February 14 2013 22:10 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On February 14 2013 22:03 Vivax wrote:
On February 14 2013 21:47 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On February 14 2013 21:29 Vivax wrote:
Zess, scumreads? Do you think I'm town?

Why are you asking someone if they think you're town, especially this early in the game?


Can't you think of a reason?

Can't think of any where asking about scumreads wouldn't be better than town reads.
Speaking of which. Who do you currently think is scum?


Mattchew and WeWin have made bad posts so far, layabout didn't give a fuck about the votes on him and his activity has been grotesque.

What about your scumreads?You think I'm town?

I don't like Risk.nuke questioning posts that are obviously meant as a joke and taking them seriously (Zessioniar's initial vote), then defending himself by saying he's a poor scum player.

What are you talking about, are we playing the same game? I questioned somebody who put their vote on me. How did you interpret his post as obviously a joke?

Furthermore I didn't say I'm a poor scumplayer to defend myself. I used the empirical evidence that I hadn't performed well as scum to prove that his claimed reasoning was false or more to the point, made up.
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sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
February 14 2013 16:19 GMT
#235
@laya hopeless looks quite townie to me so far, why focus on him with your overwhelming activity?
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 14 2013 16:20 GMT
#236
On February 15 2013 01:19 sandroba wrote:
@laya hopeless looks quite townie to me so far, why focus on him with your overwhelming activity?


why?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
February 14 2013 16:23 GMT
#237
I don't think Zess likes me. Not actually sure if he's mafia or idiot.
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
February 14 2013 16:24 GMT
#238
On February 15 2013 01:17 Vivax wrote:
bleh, nevermind Zess. But I'd like to know your take on WeWin.

Null. His last post is pushing him onto the townish side from the "oh shit, I asked grush a question /facepalm".
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
February 14 2013 16:24 GMT
#239
The post on vivax's stuff was quite perseptive and involved checking timestamps and shit, which is not the kind of bullshit mafia normally throws around or even go through the trouble of checking.
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
February 14 2013 16:25 GMT
#240
On February 15 2013 01:23 risk.nuke wrote:
I don't think Zess likes me. Not actually sure if he's mafia or idiot.

Why don't you think Zess likes you, and why is his opinion of you alignment indicative at all?
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