Normal Mini Mafia IV

On January 29 2013 12:14 Djodref wrote:
welcome jay !

Could you give us your list of reads when you are done with reading the thread ?

On January 29 2013 12:24 iamperfection wrote:
jay have you read the thread yet ?

answer this quickly and this is not a trick question just a yes or no.

On January 29 2013 12:26 iamperfection wrote:

he has not bugged me at all

On January 29 2013 12:31 yamato77 wrote:
Yes, iamp, I totally want to sheep your opinion of people based on who annoys you in the game.

Sharrant is far scummier than xks, that's obvious. You're supposed to be good at this game, yet you don't see it?

On January 29 2013 12:33 iamperfection wrote:

well dear

explain
why sharrant didn't bus when easily could have done so
Why did he go after ve just before ve died (just a waste of effort? i dont think so)

On January 29 2013 12:42 yamato77 wrote:

I gave my thoughts on your reads, they're right there in the post you quoted.

Why shouldn't we lynch you for not reading?

Then again, that seems pandemic this game.

On January 29 2013 12:51 iamperfection wrote:

oh

do you have some interesting info

On January 29 2013 12:50 Vivax wrote:
Jay, read the thread again please.

On January 29 2013 17:46 Djodref wrote:


I'm not dead because I've antoginized enough players in this game so mafia could mislynch me, pretending I'm a SK I guess.
I think the last two scum are among xsksc, Sharrant, Prome, Emile Zola, Vivax and you. With xsksc, Sharrant and you being more suspicious than the others.

On January 30 2013 07:07 Vivax wrote:
Me, Sharrant, Jay and yamato are your scumreads now according to that list?

Somewhat reasonable on Sharrant, just lol on everyone else.

On January 30 2013 08:06 Promethelax wrote:
GREEN CHECK. You don't lynch him, find another target.

Look: either Vivax is scum fake-claiming to have a reason he is town later (and X is town) or Vivax is actually cop and checked X who came back green. We do not lynch X until one more mafia has flipped if that mafia is not GF we look at X again.

On January 30 2013 08:54 EmileZola wrote:


This, right here:

given your play in Dessert this post just caused your name to be colored in a darker shade of red for me.

On January 30 2013 09:08 EmileZola wrote:


no, I have a habit of lynching people who play like scum, and then having them flip town 50% of the time.

You need to either read the thread or die.



He wasn't in any danger of being lynched.

Learn to convince people without claiming your goddamn role, cause you won't roll cop every game.

On January 30 2013 09:08 EmileZola wrote:
actually yeah why am I still talking about this shit

##vote jaybrundage

On January 30 2013 09:16 EmileZola wrote:


so why is it that you get lynched in all of your games and never find any scum?

Why are you accusing me of doing things wrong when a 50% lynch rate is better than 0?

You could have seen killing him because he was an easy bandwagon.

Oh look, you didn't answer any of my questions nor show me why JX is scum. You suck at this game.

On January 30 2013 09:15 Vivax wrote:
Yeah jay you should step up. I didn't like your attack on the probably miller:


##Unvote
##Vote jaybrundage

You were also a bitch in Dessert. Only scum I didn't guess.

On January 30 2013 09:24 EmileZola wrote:
what's mind boggling is that you entered the thread attacking sharrant, even voted him at one point, but just randomly flipped to JX.

Sharrant did a very similar thing with Hapa by calling him a scummy/null read despite saying the only thing he could do to read him was mindgame the hosts.

Neither behavior made any sense.



So despite the fact that we both think Sharrant is scum, you prefer JX all of a sudden.

Sharrant was taking suspicion, and you magically don't find him scum anymore. Is that correct?

Also, living to endgame is not proof you are getting better. The hallmark of a good townie is getting consistently shot on n1.

Also, winning a game as scum because everyone thinks your bad play is indicative of you being town doesn't exactly help you in this situation.

On January 30 2013 09:53 EmileZola wrote:
which is why I accused jay of not reading the thread.

In fact, I consider him scum for the manner in which he switched away from Sharrant. He seemed to switch away from Sharrant when it was apparent Sharrant would gain traction.

Distancing is a scum tactic. He prefers JX over Sharrant and never qualifies the preference any more than "JX has done worse". Not good enough. Either qualify it with tangible evidence, or die.

On January 30 2013 12:59 Djodref wrote:


How do you know what Hapa would have done or not ?
You shouldn't be concerned about defending my case against Hapa because you are not in a position to do so.
I'm pushing your lynch for the moment. Present better cases against your targets and I might change my mind.

Also I would like to know if you have any alternative ideas for the scum players ? There are still two of them...

On January 30 2013 13:29 Sharrant wrote:
Jay, I'm really disliking your play. You had me as a full blown scum read earlier. Then you started pussyfooting around it, saying JX was scummier. Then you moved me to solely "lurking". I understand that IamPerfection having a town read on me while you have a town read on him is going to change your view of me, but please show some of these scummy things. Your posts right now are looking like they're just there to look like you're doing something.

You're pushing two lurkers right now, I do think JX has about a 50% chance to flip scum, probably even a little higher than that. And I can tell you that I am town, so you better get another read in there. Hell, imagine I've already flipped and come up green, who are your two scum reads?

On January 31 2013 01:34 Vivax wrote:


You're bad.
The evidence is laid out for you on the last few pages.
Don't need to make a case for dummies, read the fucking thread.

On January 31 2013 01:43 EmileZola wrote:



hahaha pure gold man!!! :D
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On January 31 2013 01:49 JieXian wrote:


lol lol lol

....says the guy who was freaking proud of making it to the end of his mafia games

On January 30 2013 23:38 JieXian wrote:
For the record I think scum is among : Vivax, Jay and xsksc

Unsure about : Djo, Yamato

Just in case it isn't obvious since I've given town reads to so many people

On January 31 2013 00:04 JieXian wrote:
wth iamp?

prom, ez and djo are the towniest and most pro town guys here. I think you're town too but you are kinda trolly (I mean you've just admitted that you lynched people because they annoyed you)

Who are you willing to lynch?

On January 31 2013 01:56 EmileZola wrote:
let me explain that: vivax has no case against me a reasonable person could agree with.
you are reasonable, but you agree his case. therefor you're scum.
uh yeah
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On January 31 2013 02:03 JieXian wrote:


LOL did you just say that it's highly unlikely that you're reasonable?

On January 31 2013 02:08 JieXian wrote:


Actually, yes for that matter and based on my reply, I AM flip flop on djo. He's posting very townily to me this game.

However I thought he was also posting townily in Witchcraft.

So I'm not sure

So I'm flippy floppy.

But I did say that I was NOT going to lynch Djo

On January 31 2013 02:10 xsksc wrote:
Hey guys sorry I've been unable to play for so long, my net's been down - not that I expect you to believe that.

I'd prefer lynching Jay today. JX looks more townie to me, and I'd not feel comfortable killing him today.
##vote jaybrundage
I had Hapa leaning town earlier in day 1, but Jay's discussion with EZ and his subsequent respones to his random u-turn from Sharrant to JX makes me think otherwise.

Super/wbg says it better than I could here :

Also Jay, this is kinda off-topic but this really annoyed me.
+ Show Spoiler +
Anyway, I should be back on an hour or two before the lynch.

On January 29 2013 12:23 jaybrundage wrote:

I already gave them


Normally I dont like doing this but hell everyone else is so why not.
A more complete list including town reads.

I would say

Town
Iamp for obvious reasons
EZ cause super had a similar attitude in the last game we played.
Djo Because lamps points on him make sense. But the option for you to be a SK still exists obv

Kinda scummy
Vivax
JX

And scummy I already said

Sharrant As he has one big post here and there to appear to be contributing. While not commenting on the byplay at all. Similar to how Zbo play but not as gud

On January 31 2013 02:23 Vivax wrote:
Even if you manage to mislynch jay today, you're done for tomorrow.

On January 31 2013 02:32 EmileZola wrote:
vivax shut up. i'll deal with all this stuff here when i get home.
my case against jay is rocksolid.
but i admit: i am not done yet with all the other stuff going on.
But I will have a final opinion by 20:00 CEST and i will happily take the responsibility for the quality of my reads.
(s)

On January 31 2013 02:35 Vivax wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +

Wtf jay this post is a disappointment.
I doubt you will get anyone to lynch EZ today. It's you or JX, possibly even Sharrant.

On January 31 2013 02:38 EmileZola wrote:
no thats wbgs case. i have my own :-)
wait 30minutes and your only way out of the lynch will be begging for mercy!
but you cant expect mercy. i am a mercyless scumhunter and you will be dead in exactly 5h 20min.

On January 31 2013 02:38 Vivax wrote:
Nah I'm not excluding him.

I stick to JX today and that's it. He has caught himself up into numerous contradictions and false statements when I questioned him.

On January 31 2013 02:42 EmileZola wrote:
see? you dont even believe your own case against me :D
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On January 31 2013 03:01 iamperfection wrote:
I am going to put my weight behind jx for now.

Let see what happens

## vote jx

On January 31 2013 03:15 Promethelax wrote:
And I thought you weren't going to martyr?

On January 31 2013 03:43 Vivax wrote:
Reconstruction:
You are bussing a scumbuddy early cause it's likely he will get lynched.

Your reasoning for voting him is saying "come out"

Then Prom comes in and writes a few things against thrawn.

You misread his post thinking he's defending thrawn and immediately jump OH SHIT HE'S DEFENDING MY SCUMBUDDY ALTHOUGH HE'S JUST BEEN LURKING.SHIT THIS ONE IS SCUM TOO. MY SCUMBUDDY IS ACTUALLY SCUM CAUSE THIS GUY IS DEFENDING HIM. BOTH SCUM.

Then you realize you wrote a huge load of garbage, in truth he wasn't defending your scumbuddy. Well, shit. Still, you have to keep your vote on the buddy.

Thrawn writes his final post and you finally decide for him to be scum over another guy cause of that.

On January 31 2013 04:21 EmileZola wrote:
(s):
yes, jay just hops on the most likely alternativelynch to save his skin.

On January 31 2013 04:34 EmileZola wrote:


Ah, well I don't like that JX refuses to lynch Sharrant to be honest...
(s)

However you REALLY fail to convince me of anything you're saying. When I am town, you know, I have scumreads and you don't have scumreads. You are just willing to lynch anyone except for you.
Thats extremely typical for scum who is getting accused unexpected. And I think you didn't expect that you are considered as a lynchcandidate today.
Ahhhh

WBG, IRC ;D

On January 31 2013 04:52 EmileZola wrote:
WBG here;

maybe you haven't gotten the hint yet jay, but the last several posts I have made keep reiterating the fact that you still have no reasons to be voting JX.

I was made suspicious by your behavior regarding sharrant-calling him scum and then backing off. The strongest reason I think you are scum is the fact that despite being asked repeatedly to clarify your read on JX, you push the attention away from your read of JX onto other things; i.e. discrediting us.

On January 31 2013 05:13 EmileZola wrote:


ooooh that's bullshit. I am just saying i struggle to find a fitting scumbuddy for you
(s)

On January 31 2013 05:32 jaybrundage wrote:

See ALLLL OF VIVAX REASONS OK NOW I WILL USE THEM. ITS CALLED SHEEPING. WOW WHAT AN INTRIGUING CONCEPT>

On January 31 2013 05:33 EmileZola wrote:


all of Vivax's reasons are shit.

Cool story bro.

On January 31 2013 05:34 EmileZola wrote:
btw this overaggression reminds me of the postgame last time, when you said your strategy was to piss me off.

Sounds like you're trying to piss off super right now.

Do you even know what Vivax's reasons for voting JX are? Or what I said about them?

On January 31 2013 05:43 EmileZola wrote:


hell. We are town and you know it. You fucking know it. Why do you abolish your townreads if you're town.
You had us listed as town, you even defended us earlier. And all of the sudden you vote us - for NO reason. Only to buddy up with that insane vivax.

On January 31 2013 06:29 supersoft wrote:


2 blues already claimed, scum has enough targets for 2 nights.

(floodcontrol, really sorry)

On January 31 2013 06:43 EmileZola wrote:


i dont read your trash.
(s)

i am waiting for sharrants answer. no mass voteswitches

On January 31 2013 06:44 iamperfection wrote:

i think it will be a mis-lynch

On January 31 2013 07:48 Vivax wrote:


By switching votes like this you're just causing confusion for the case that jay is red. With yamato's actions, scum might have found a reason to switch off a scum jay.

We will never know if jay doesn't die now.

On January 31 2013 07:48 EmileZola wrote:
If you seriously screw up the Jaylynch with your last-minute shit.
I thought about this game for hours now and you jerks won't destroy it with your paranoia and shit.

Jay is scum

On January 31 2013 07:54 xsksc wrote:
that's a great song but it doesn't save you