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@ Vivax
I still don't think that xsksc is scum. I need to read this whole day 1 again though given this flip.
I think VE looks even worse right now but I'll get on this later because I have to go to work.
Let me give you a short summary.
VE has thrawn as scum very shortly after thrawn's joke.
VE doesn't push thrawn so much after that and goes after iamp at some point.
Check VE interaction with yamato about thrawn.
VE votes the same guy that his top scumread. He doesn't try to find scum outside iamp and thrawn.
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On January 28 2013 08:44 EmileZola wrote:ghost You never responded to this Show nested quote +On January 27 2013 10:34 iamperfection wrote:
what you think of thrawn ghost? are You scum ghost?
I need your case against me. It's quite serious business you know ^^
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On January 28 2013 08:47 Djodref wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2013 08:44 EmileZola wrote:ghost You never responded to this On January 27 2013 10:34 iamperfection wrote:
what you think of thrawn ghost? are You scum ghost? I need your case against me. It's quite serious business you know ^^
why because You are scared? because i am right?
what do You think of ghost?
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On January 28 2013 08:51 EmileZola wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2013 08:47 Djodref wrote:On January 28 2013 08:44 EmileZola wrote:ghost You never responded to this On January 27 2013 10:34 iamperfection wrote:
what you think of thrawn ghost? are You scum ghost? I need your case against me. It's quite serious business you know ^^ why because You are scared? because i am right? what do You think of ghost?
I'm not scared at all. Like really not at all 
I want to see ghost case against VE. He is too inactive to my taste so far but I think that it his style, he was already like this as town in WitchCraft. I think this guy is good so I'm going to wait to see what he says of this lynch and day 1.
Null for now.
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xsksc
Don't get irritated, there's no reason to start a shitfest. Just point out the mistake and keep a cool head instead of snarling.
Or keep a stiff upper lip, as you use to say.
Allow me to sum up most, if not all your D1 behaviour regarding thrawn until the vote for everyone to see.
On January 26 2013 12:10 xsksc wrote:
#2 Thrawn has done nothing useful. One comment about something he didn't like and a joke. That's it, pretty suspicious stuff and I hope he starts posting some more substance when he's on next.
On January 27 2013 09:51 xsksc wrote:
EmileZola switches his vote from thrawn to Hapa with no explanation, and thrawn still hasn't posted by then. So the only event that could change his mind would have to have come from Hapa, right?
On January 27 2013 11:18 xsksc wrote:
yeah. nothing that i haven't already raised in the thread though.
-Vivax/hapa looking townie to me.
-thrawn/ghost hardlurking.
-emilezola scum.
On January 27 2013 11:21 iamperfection wrote:
want to join us in killing thrawn xcxczxcz?
On January 27 2013 11:23 xsksc wrote:
Yes, unacceptable lurking is unacceptable. He better get in here soon. D:
On January 27 2013 12:08 xsksc wrote:
I am willing to kill thrawn because of his extreme lurking. Are you saying if thrawn came in here and started making quality posts and glowed townie, I wouldn't re-evaluate the situation because my "mind is made up"? That seems a very silly assumption to me.
On January 27 2013 12:46 xsksc wrote:Show nested quote +On January 27 2013 12:37 Promethelax wrote:
I've said this before and I'll say it again. Look at thrawn as scum in Mario mini.
Now answer my questions. He didn't even play day one in that game? Why is that game relevant to this situation? And hey, if you're going to ask me all these questions, I'd appreciate it if you'd do me the simple courtesy of replying to what I have to say.
On January 27 2013 13:05 xsksc wrote:My bad - I thought he replaced INTO that game, not out of. Show nested quote +On January 27 2013 12:48 Promethelax wrote:
You answered my questions. What do you want me to reply to? "Now you're just misrepresenting. My vote is still on EZ, I think he is scum. Nothing has changed there. Where do I say I would rather lynch him over EZ?
"Are you saying if thrawn came in here and started making quality posts and glowed townie, I wouldn't re-evaluate the situation because my "mind is made up"?"This? I love how djodref came in and did the same thing as me (staying on his main read but has agreed to kill thrawn) but he's not getting shit for it.
On January 28 2013 04:28 xsksc wrote:
Just woke up and caught up, looks like nobody has any intention of killing EZ today.
##unvote
##vote thrawn2112
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On January 28 2013 08:46 Djodref wrote:
@ Vivax
I still don't think that xsksc is scum. I need to read this whole day 1 again though given this flip.
I think VE looks even worse right now but I'll get on this later because I have to go to work.
Let me give you a short summary.
VE has thrawn as scum very shortly after thrawn's joke.
VE doesn't push thrawn so much after that and goes after iamp at some point.
Check VE interaction with yamato about thrawn.
VE votes the same guy that his top scumread. He doesn't try to find scum outside iamp and thrawn.
That interaction between VE and I makes him far likelier town, actually.
Why would mafia VE resist thrawn's lynch as weakly as he did and then end up voting for him?
Town VE may very well have found thrawn scummy, as he said he did, and then decided before leaving that he was the best lynch.
Makes no sense for mafia VE to do that. The flip definitely should make you see VE townier, which makes me think you're just tunneling him with massive confirmation bias. I just can't tell if you're being thick about it or just plain mafia picking someone and fabricating suspicion, at this point. I agreed with you earlier but at this point it's kind of absurd.
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That's a very nice list but I don't quite see your point.
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I don't, either. If you bussed thrawn you did in a good way.
But I suppose you want to lynch Djo now?
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okay, these are the set-ups we're looking at (ish)
+ Show Spoiler [c9++ including scum rb] +
TTTT = 2 Goons + Roleblocker
TTT = 2 Goons + Roleblocker, Serial Killer (Investigation Immune OR 1-Shot Bulletproof)
TT = Goon + Roleblocker + Godfather
T = Goon + Roleblocker + Godfather, Serial Killer (Investigation Immune OR 1-Shot Bulletproof)
0 Ts = Goon + Roleblocker + Godfather
we have between 2 and 7 letters. Just remember set-up in case of my untimely death and keep an eye on incongruent claims.
I'm reading day one over again and I hope you'll all do the same.
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No, I don't.
Sorry for snapping at you, I'm not usually that rude, had a bad day. 
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On January 28 2013 09:20 Promethelax wrote:okay, these are the set-ups we're looking at (ish) + Show Spoiler [c9++ including scum rb] +
TTTT = 2 Goons + Roleblocker
TTT = 2 Goons + Roleblocker, Serial Killer (Investigation Immune OR 1-Shot Bulletproof)
TT = Goon + Roleblocker + Godfather
T = Goon + Roleblocker + Godfather, Serial Killer (Investigation Immune OR 1-Shot Bulletproof)
0 Ts = Goon + Roleblocker + Godfather
we have between 2 and 7 letters. Just remember set-up in case of my untimely death and keep an eye on incongruent claims. I'm reading day one over again and I hope you'll all do the same.
Useless post. Where is your case against me ?
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On January 28 2013 09:30 Djodref wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2013 09:20 Promethelax wrote:okay, these are the set-ups we're looking at (ish) + Show Spoiler [c9++ including scum rb] +
TTTT = 2 Goons + Roleblocker
TTT = 2 Goons + Roleblocker, Serial Killer (Investigation Immune OR 1-Shot Bulletproof)
TT = Goon + Roleblocker + Godfather
T = Goon + Roleblocker + Godfather, Serial Killer (Investigation Immune OR 1-Shot Bulletproof)
0 Ts = Goon + Roleblocker + Godfather
we have between 2 and 7 letters. Just remember set-up in case of my untimely death and keep an eye on incongruent claims. I'm reading day one over again and I hope you'll all do the same. Useless post. Where is your case against me ?
Don't have one and never said I did. I don't like how you voted, I don't like that you said VE was town in this game earlier and I don't like your explanation of your vote. I'm rereading day one to find scum. We'll see if you are who I find.
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On January 28 2013 08:54 Djodref wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2013 08:51 EmileZola wrote:On January 28 2013 08:47 Djodref wrote:On January 28 2013 08:44 EmileZola wrote:ghost You never responded to this On January 27 2013 10:34 iamperfection wrote:
what you think of thrawn ghost? are You scum ghost? I need your case against me. It's quite serious business you know ^^ why because You are scared? because i am right? what do You think of ghost? I'm not scared at all. Like really not at all I want to see ghost case against VE. He is too inactive to my taste so far but I think that it his style, he was already like this as town in WitchCraft. I think this guy is good so I'm going to wait to see what he says of this lynch and day 1.
Null for now.
don't you want to take a closer look at the page 25 and the following?
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On January 28 2013 08:20 Promethelax wrote:
so, back to that scumslip from djo...
But isn't this post calling me scum ?
Have the decency to post a case against me before writting posts like this.
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On January 28 2013 09:36 EmileZola wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2013 08:54 Djodref wrote:On January 28 2013 08:51 EmileZola wrote:On January 28 2013 08:47 Djodref wrote:On January 28 2013 08:44 EmileZola wrote:ghost You never responded to this On January 27 2013 10:34 iamperfection wrote:
what you think of thrawn ghost? are You scum ghost? I need your case against me. It's quite serious business you know ^^ why because You are scared? because i am right? what do You think of ghost? I'm not scared at all. Like really not at all I want to see ghost case against VE. He is too inactive to my taste so far but I think that it his style, he was already like this as town in WitchCraft. I think this guy is good so I'm going to wait to see what he says of this lynch and day 1.
Null for now. don't you want to take a closer look at the page 25 and the following?
So what ?
What did happen on page 25 for you to put thos red font ?
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On January 28 2013 09:51 Djodref wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2013 08:20 Promethelax wrote:
so, back to that scumslip from djo... But isn't this post calling me scum ? Have the decency to post a case against me before writting posts like this.
You are on my scummy list.
I don't like how you voted, I don't like that you said VE was town in this game earlier and I don't like your explanation of your vote
all of those things are scum points to you.
when you said this:
On January 28 2013 08:17 Djodref wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2013 08:08 Promethelax wrote:On January 28 2013 08:05 Djodref wrote:
Thrawn scum meta is unmistakable ! why weren't you voting for him the whole day in that case? Because you don't get much information from a lynch like this. I think VE lynch would have been more controversial and would have gave us more info. That's why I was pushing VE over thawn.
my reaction was to remember the scumslip (or dumbslip) from earlier that I called out. Here it is:
On January 27 2013 20:39 Djodref wrote:Show nested quote +On January 27 2013 01:52 VisceraEyes wrote:
Noted.
Djodref I'd like you to summarize your case against me if you really think I'm scum sir. Here are the reasons why I think VE is scum. First is his entrance post in the thread. Let's have a look at his latest entrance posts.
Hero Mini Mafia -> scum
TL LVIII -> town
Here -> townShow nested quote +On January 26 2013 09:21 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'm here...was playing GoMe
I'm town HURRAY!
Marv Miller?
:/
It's a matter of sobriety. As town, VE is much more sober than scum. For example, he likes to use Caps Lock, but he uses it more as scum than as town. For reference, you can compare his two filters in Hero Mini Mafia (clicky) and TL Mafia LVIII (also clicky). And why should he be exceptionally happy to be town ? It's not like his last town game was heaven on earth...
One difference between VE town and scum games is also is activity. I'm not satisfied with VE activity so far. So I don't like this post at all. Him waiting for other players input as an excuse to do nothing. Show nested quote +On January 26 2013 11:38 VisceraEyes wrote:
Cool...well, I'm waiting on a response from Vivax and for the inactive players to put something down in black and sky-blue. I'm gonna go watch Ted with my wife. See y'all lata. I don't like this post as well, because it reminds me of a lot of posts like this in Hero Mini Mafia. Show nested quote +On January 26 2013 11:39 VisceraEyes wrote:
SCUM SLIPS ARE REAL! THEY'RE REAL IAM
One other difference between town VE and scum VE is that scum VE is much more derpy in his cases than town VE, at least in my eyes. So I think that his reason to vote iamp is weak, and thus makes him scum. It's not like iamp questions are always very precise and helpful in his town games. + Show Spoiler [for reference] +On January 26 2013 17:35 VisceraEyes wrote:Okay so far I think iamp is the scummiest. Earlier he asked me if I was serious about my accusation of thrawn. Looking back I noticed this in his filter. Show nested quote +On January 26 2013 09:47 iamperfection wrote:On January 26 2013 09:22 Promethelax wrote:On January 26 2013 09:18 Vivax wrote:
That's good news! Marv is on town's side! Too quick to believe marv. Miller in c9++ is in 40% of games. Look at the bugs/palmar argument in YAN. There is a good reason for scum to claim miller too. ##Vote: Vivax was this a serious vote because if it is very weak Vivax been very posty after having an avenue to not be with his pre game post. I want to know if you actually think vivax is mafia when you get back. Show nested quote +On January 26 2013 11:20 iamperfection wrote:
your vote on vivax serious prom? In this post he appears to be suspicious of prom for his vote on Vivax. What strikes me however is that if he's suspicious of Prom, he's basically telling Prom how to answer to make himself less suspicious. Why would he do this as a townie? As scum I can see reason for him to coach Prom through to the correct response regardless of Prom's alignment, but why would iamp do that as town? Especially given his response to my calling him out: Show nested quote +On January 26 2013 11:28 iamperfection wrote:On January 26 2013 11:25 VisceraEyes wrote:
iamp do you have any opinions on what's going on or do you plan to uselessly ask people if "they're serious" all game? Well if i told you how i think he would answer with regards to his alignment it would kind of defeat the purpose. It would kind of at that. ##Vote: iamperfection
One last thing is that the Mr. Zentor rule is similar to he Chezinu rule. The first guy to attack Mr. Zentor is mafia. I have no idea what to make of Emile so far, but statistically, he has more chances to be town than to be scum. So I find very strange that VE wants to policy-lynch him, especially on the basis of him being a troll. Mr. Zentor is readable and baits out mafia players (see WitchCraft and British Empire) so he is useful in his way. Show nested quote +On January 27 2013 08:04 VisceraEyes wrote:On January 27 2013 07:55 Hapahauli wrote:On January 27 2013 07:49 VisceraEyes wrote:
Hapahauli? Yeah I'm not lynching Hapahauli today.. Just putting that out there.
I can easily lynch MrZ at this juncture.
@Hapa
I agree that in his first post he pointed out a weak vote. The problem I have is in his insistence that he answer the question "Are you serious about this vote?" after he explained that he thought it was scummy. It's asinine, the order is wrong to achieve what he's claiming is the intent. He would need the answer to "are you serious about this vote" BEFORE explaining what is weak about it in order to glean any kind of information from the question...and he does it TWICE. Why do you want to lynch MrZ? Is it because you think he's scum, or because you think he's a troll? As for the Iamp quotes, I think you're going waaaaaaay too deep into it. I still don't understand how ordering a question is scummy. Many people don't give too much thought to specific objectives when questioning people, and just prefer to confront bad logic. Because he's a troll. :|
That's why I think VE is scum. And sorry for the delay, I was at a wedding today.
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On January 28 2013 03:40 VisceraEyes wrote:
Well, there are now three votes on VE. You do the math Sharrant.
I'm pulling a thrawn. I've got a birthday party to go to, so I won't be back tonight. Figure it out guys.
just gonna throw this out there.
This would be very weird for ve to say the bold if he was scum.
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Going back and looking at the game, finding people who didn't vote Thrawn, I saw this post:
On January 28 2013 07:34 Sharrant wrote:
Well, for starters, Thrawn is not a scum read. I'm not sure how you got that, he's pretty much entirely null to me. Too much absence to get even a minor read on.
EmileZola is like a vortex for my sanity. Another big lurker (though slightly more active) and he's mainly just sort of trolled along. I think it's fairly safe to treat him like he's not MrZentor, which makes me wonder why the wagon that was beginning to form on him fizzled out and hasn't come back after the revelation. He agrees with one of my reads though, I'm not sure to take that as a mark against my read, or a mark for him being townie, I need to hear more from him.
Djodref is still null for me, and JieXian is pretty much my wildcard scum read. If it doesn't end up being Prom/VE/EmileZola I would expect JieXian to be in the team.
When I see a player give out this many null/potentially scum reads in one post, my scumdar goes off. He's basically listed half the game here and left himself open to voting for them in the future, super scummy behavior. To top it off, he's refusing to give a read on Thrawn despite the evidence given by others.
This reads hugely noncommittal. He doesn't take a strong stance even on one of the players he considers to be part of his hypothetical scum team, he just waffles and says "I need to hear more from him."
He's also amazingly fluffy throughout his filter. I'd be up for lynching him tomorrow.
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@ Prom
Tell me if you still think I'm scum after re-reading D1.
@ yamato
I don't think any scumbuddy would be so fluffly. They would have known thrawn would flip scum
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On January 28 2013 10:39 Djodref wrote:
@ Prom
Tell me if you still think I'm scum after re-reading D1.
@ yamato
I don't think any scumbuddy would be so fluffly. They would have known thrawn would flip scum
I'm not sure I follow your logic there.
But then again, I don't follow your logic on Vivax either.
Mind explaining yourself at more length?
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