EPTI would much rather have masons paraphrase their conversations or paste very small segments.
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
I would much rather have masons paraphrase their conversations or paste very small segments. | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
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VisceraEyes
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wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
On February 05 2013 04:55 Toadesstern wrote: I told prom about it when he asked and JX said he's going to give up and I told him I need about an more hour to finish it because I'm in a game of dota  "Town was nerfed" always was and is in comparison to what the mafiascum page tells you to do and not what was up with the set-up (I agree, it was slightly town favored, foolish said the same) TL-wise. That's the reason I said town was "nerfed" btw mafia was "buffed". I don't think the double 1 shot vig was a problem though. The hydra was, yeah the thing is, I ran variants of C9++ and tweaked it for at least 3-4 months before I thought it was even close to being balanced. I still don't think the version I run is completely balanced, but this is even worse than the first setup I ran. I purposely tell people not to use mafiascum as a resource for C9++, only as a guideline, because if you copied C9++ directly then it would be ridiculously town favored. Every change I made was deliberate, and I talked it over with multiple people before finalizing, including Foolishness, GM, Ace, BC, Incog, and Ver. e: it's also why several of the first normals I hosted had slightly different variations; I was testing out what players thought and what I thought of how the setup was going. That's also why I chose not to publicize my randomizer, though I don't think anyone is actually using it now even though it was released at some point (though I still don't think that's the latest one I use) | ||
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
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Promethelax
Canada7089 Posts
On February 05 2013 05:01 syllogism wrote: Posting screenshots of your spreadsheet is also pretty questionable and asking for someone else to do that definitely is something both Bugs and Toad do every game. Hydras posting logs was super OP, I already ahd them as town in a hard way but they were essentially confirmed town. Especially when Toad told them to stop. Since it was obvious their logs were real. | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
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wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
On February 05 2013 05:02 Promethelax wrote: something both Bugs and Toad do every game. not true :p | ||
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Promethelax
Canada7089 Posts
On February 05 2013 05:04 wherebugsgo wrote: Posting spreadsheets is not questionable, if a player is willing to do it as town then they'd be willing to do it as scum too. not true :p ha, well most games. I see you guys do it much more than anyone else. | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
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Promethelax
Canada7089 Posts
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VisceraEyes
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Promethelax
Canada7089 Posts
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
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wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
In a PM game scum are forced to fake PMs, if they wanted to fake a mason (completely voluntarily) then they'd have to fake logs. It's an incredibly risky thing to do, and tbh it's probably not very worth it, but in a properly run setup the claim should be possible. I would personally think about it as scum in a lylo situation. Similarly miller claims are a calculated risk taken by scum too. If marv had stayed in the game I'd be pretty confident he would have lived a while with that miller claim. No one has done it yet because no one is brave enough to try, but it doesn't mean that something needs to be changed because townies are getting too many blues or whatever. I agree that in this game, the setup was cracked because of host error and a relatively town favored setup, but I don't think that this is the norm. | ||
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Djodref
France3332 Posts
On February 05 2013 04:43 Promethelax wrote: not sure what the town nerf was honestly. I think the set-up was pretty good for town. Though even more good with thrawn rolling over dead day one. Like others I left my vote off him hoping to actually get something done day one, though I was planning on simply shooting him night one. I wanted to shoot him night one as well  | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
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JieXian
Malaysia4677 Posts
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JieXian
Malaysia4677 Posts
That's an extra confirmed town......... | ||
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