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On February 02 2013 08:53 Vivax wrote:
I'm sheeping then. Got to say I feel a little scared.
My thoughts after reading the overnight interplay between: Yamato & Prome/iamp.
[list[
[*] It would have been ad-hominem if Yamato actually presented an argument - however he didn't so it was pure insults.
[*] At first I was scared too, but the Prome/iamp insults of Yamato read almost as if a planned tag team.
[*] However, when I think about it, if Yamato was town, wouldnt he be trying his best to prove his innocence? Wouldnt he be trying his best to explain those Day2 lynch actions. Wouldnt he be trying his best to aid town scumhunt by building a case to his scum target.[/list]
My only concern for Yamato (and this applies to any lynch candidate today) is,
if SK is alive I think we are in MYLO.
Gotta go.
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On February 02 2013 10:43 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2013 08:53 Vivax wrote:
I'm sheeping then. Got to say I feel a little scared. My thoughts after reading the overnight interplay between: Yamato & Prome/iamp. [list[ [*] It would have been ad-hominem if Yamato actually presented an argument - however he didn't so it was pure insults. [*] At first I was scared too, but the Prome/iamp insults of Yamato read almost as if a planned tag team. [*] However, when I think about it, if Yamato was town, wouldnt he be trying his best to prove his innocence? Wouldnt he be trying his best to explain those Day2 lynch actions. Wouldnt he be trying his best to aid town scumhunt by building a case to his scum target. My only concern for Yamato (and this applies to any lynch candidate today) is, if SK is alive I think we are in MYLO. Gotta go. [/list]
Your not thinking very hard me and prom didn't plan that exchange since we know prom isn't mafia.
why.aren't you using critical thinking tools?
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@ iamp
What's your take setup-wise ?
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On February 02 2013 12:49 Djodref wrote:
@ iamp
What's your take setup-wise ?
Why would you ask me that.
You know I'm not good at it.
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On February 02 2013 12:50 iamperfection wrote:Why would you ask me that. You know I'm not good at it.
What do you think of a mass claim then ? It could help us to know if we have a GF or a SK.
Do you think we have some roles left (like a medic) ?
Are you ok with the yamato lynch now by the way ?
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On February 02 2013 08:45 Promethelax wrote:
have you met the kid? the only case he knows how to make is reading all of someone's posts and calling them stupid.
Now, Prom, don't take me being drunk personally.
I'm getting a lot better about realizing that dumb =/= scum.
That's why I haven't voted for you yet. 
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On February 02 2013 01:35 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2013 01:31 JieXian wrote:On February 02 2013 01:19 Mocsta wrote:On February 02 2013 01:17 JieXian wrote:
Besides, I now have stronger reads on Djo and mocha
Djo is most definitely NOT sk its mocsta. Why is Djo not SK? dont just make a rhetoric, add fact and logic. He was obviously paying a lot of attention to the game, making his reads, making sure town do the right thing, etc.
If he's SK he's playing wellHowever I cannot say the same for Djo as I did with Vivax because Djo does play well, but I'm sticking to my current read until things change. Show nested quote +On February 02 2013 00:02 JieXian wrote:
I stopped Djo from shooting my null and town reads. Djo's targets are dead and they all flipped town.
??? So your idea of town doing the right thing is... having targets flip town?
I believe he made an honest mistake with ghost
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On February 02 2013 01:39 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2013 01:33 JieXian wrote:
I really hate to hurt my pride mochsta but
I've been in 3 townie games
Twice I made it to the end
Once I was shot D1 and everyone was saying that it was a stupid shot. well, i dont think your stupid; regardless, your comment above does not account for the lack of "passion" in your thread. May I ask why iamp is your most confirmed town read?Is this your sole reason? Show nested quote +On January 30 2013 19:23 JieXian wrote:Iamp, looks like town to me, I've never played with him before but he also posts the same way in Cheesecake, lots of 1-2 liners. What stand out is his tunnel on thrawn D1 followed by this post On January 29 2013 12:45 iamperfection wrote:On January 29 2013 12:31 yamato77 wrote:
Yes, iamp, I totally want to sheep your opinion of people based on who annoys you in the game.
you do realize thrawn annoyed me the most so thats why i killed him right He's not even trying to claim townie credits were he scum, for bussing thrawn. Or has your read developed further as the game progressed?
That was the most telling one. I can't find anything nearly as strong to argue for xsk or yamato. I mean they were basically not around at all
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On February 02 2013 02:01 Promethelax wrote:
I've been working under the assumption that one V us a single shot vig here and VV is two single shot viggies.
if we're at VVMC (which I doubt) we'd theoretically have TTT = 2 Goons + Roleblocker, Serial Killer but if we have a serial killer we're only at VMC which has TTTT = 2 Goons + Roleblocker in all likelyhood this set-up is VVC vs. TTTT = 2 Goons + Roleblocker
so final set-up would be
2 one shot vigs
1 one shot cop
7 VTs
vs
2 goons
1RB
which means Moc is confirmed town if yamato flips scum. We obviously have no doc because anyone not protecting EZ last night is a fucking retard. EZ was the only scum shot in this town and he/they were obvious townies.
I'll gladly lynch yamato
Vote : yamato77
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@ JieXian
Would you oppose a mass claim ?
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On February 02 2013 08:53 Vivax wrote:
I'm sheeping then. Got to say I feel a little scared.
On February 02 2013 10:43 Mocsta wrote:My thoughts after reading the overnight interplay between: Yamato & Prome/iamp. - It would have been ad-hominem if Yamato actually presented an argument - however he didn't so it was pure insults.
- At first I was scared too, but the Prome/iamp insults of Yamato read almost as if a planned tag team.
- However, when I think about it, if Yamato was town, wouldnt he be trying his best to prove his innocence? Wouldnt he be trying his best to explain those Day2 lynch actions. Wouldnt he be trying his best to aid town scumhunt by building a case to his scum target.
My only concern for Yamato (and this applies to any lynch candidate today) is, if SK is alive I think we are in MYLO. Gotta go.
On February 02 2013 12:32 iamperfection wrote:
Your not thinking very hard me and prom didn't plan that exchange since we know prom isn't mafia.
why.aren't you using critical thinking tools?
This is just an outright fuckn weird post.
So Prome is not mafia; hence you couldnt plan that exchange? Where the fuck does that leave you?
Very oddly phrased reference to scum QT, and I am genuinely surprised Vivax is not all over that as a massive scum slip.
P.S. I actually said "read almost as if a planned tag team". Quite an over reaction from you iamperfection.
Im still consolidating on Yamato, but its a fuckn weird post regardless.
Why aren't you using critical thinking tools?
Please enlighten me on what you think I should be doing?
I think it is valid to scrutinise this lynch based on a present SK creating a MYLO situation (Due to numerical advantages evaporating).
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On February 02 2013 18:26 Djodref wrote:
@ JieXian
Would you oppose a mass claim ?
Why should a mass claim actually mean anything.
There has been so much setup speculation, its easy to lead town up the garden path and then swallow the "Red" pill.
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On February 02 2013 17:17 JieXian wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2013 01:35 Mocsta wrote:On February 02 2013 01:31 JieXian wrote:On February 02 2013 01:19 Mocsta wrote:On February 02 2013 01:17 JieXian wrote:
Besides, I now have stronger reads on Djo and mocha
Djo is most definitely NOT sk its mocsta. Why is Djo not SK? dont just make a rhetoric, add fact and logic. He was obviously paying a lot of attention to the game, making his reads, making sure town do the right thing, etc.
If he's SK he's playing wellHowever I cannot say the same for Djo as I did with Vivax because Djo does play well, but I'm sticking to my current read until things change. On February 02 2013 00:02 JieXian wrote:
I stopped Djo from shooting my null and town reads. Djo's targets are dead and they all flipped town.
??? So your idea of town doing the right thing is... having targets flip town? I believe he made an honest mistake with ghost
K, Ghost agreed. What of the others.. *all flipped town* infers multiple people.. Do you think they were honest mistakes as well?
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On February 02 2013 18:46 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2013 18:26 Djodref wrote:
@ JieXian
Would you oppose a mass claim ? Why should a mass claim actually mean anything. There has been so much setup speculation, its easy to lead town up the garden path and then swallow the "Red" pill.
I want to know for sure if we have a GF or a SK. And I doubt that would be the case if everybody claims VT.
It could definitively clean you for example ^^
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So, yeah, JieXian, are you VT ?
iamp, are you VT ?
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On February 02 2013 01:39 Mocsta wrote:
May I ask why iamp is your most confirmed town read?
Is this your sole reason? On January 29 2013 12:31 yamato77 wrote:
Yes, iamp, I totally want to sheep your opinion of people based on who annoys you in the game.
On January 29 2013 12:45 iamperfection wrote:
you do realize thrawn annoyed me the most so thats why i killed him right[/hr]
On January 30 2013 19:23 JieXian wrote:
Iamp, looks like town to me, I've never played with him before but he also posts the same way in Cheesecake, lots of 1-2 liners.
What stand out is his tunnel on thrawn D1 followed by this post
He's not even trying to claim townie credits were he scum, for bussing thrawn.[/hr]
Or has your read developed further as the game progressed?
On February 02 2013 17:24 JieXian wrote:
That was the most telling one. I can't find anything nearly as strong to argue for xsk or yamato. I mean they were basically not around at all
@JieXian
This is my interpretation of how the Thrawn lynch initiated (if you want to take iamp as the catalyst) - technically EZ voted first.
On February 01 2013 20:04 Mocsta wrote:
iamperfection
I didnt read too much into initiating the Thrawn bandwagon either. I think it started off as a light comment, and then due to continued inactivity, became the bandwagon it did.
Do you think otherwise?
You were in the moment, I wasn't; perhaps it felt like he was a genuine catalyst as opposed to being cheeky; perhaps that why you were the first to join the vote.
If it was a light comment that then turned into a lynch: - can you see reasons for iamp not to try and soak town cred?
- If Thrawn is useless scum as others have pointed out; can you see reasons for iamp to be "annoyed" at him?
- Do you think killing annoying townies = scum hunting? If so, why isnt Vivax lynched?
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On February 02 2013 18:55 Djodref wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2013 18:46 Mocsta wrote:On February 02 2013 18:26 Djodref wrote:
@ JieXian
Would you oppose a mass claim ? Why should a mass claim actually mean anything. There has been so much setup speculation, its easy to lead town up the garden path and then swallow the "Red" pill. I want to know for sure if we have a GF or a SK. And I doubt that would be the case if everybody claims VT. It could definitively clean you for example ^^
Im not interested in being cleared by setup speculation. So thanks but no thanks.
Anyways, whats stopping anyone that is unconfirmed (e.g iamperfection) from claiming VT; you then think there is no SK; but in fact he is SK (i used this as an example.. im not inferring he is SK)
Unless you have been bullshitting something in the setup speculation to try and catch someone somewhere, I see this campaign by you as fruitless and non-committed attempts to scum hunt.
As an aside; I am used to seeing well constructed cases by you, both aesthetic and meaningful.
This game seems different, the case(s) were list heavy, points not extrapolated; if anything, a general lack of care.
In fact, I am not even sure if the cases you have shared meet your definition of a case, as detailed to xsksc.
Do you disagree?
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On February 02 2013 19:11 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2013 18:55 Djodref wrote:On February 02 2013 18:46 Mocsta wrote:On February 02 2013 18:26 Djodref wrote:
@ JieXian
Would you oppose a mass claim ? Why should a mass claim actually mean anything. There has been so much setup speculation, its easy to lead town up the garden path and then swallow the "Red" pill. I want to know for sure if we have a GF or a SK. And I doubt that would be the case if everybody claims VT. It could definitively clean you for example ^^ Im not interested in being cleared by setup speculation. So thanks but no thanks. Anyways, whats stopping anyone that is unconfirmed (e.g iamperfection) from claiming VT; you then think there is no SK; but in fact he is SK (i used this as an example.. im not inferring he is SK) Unless you have been bullshitting something in the setup speculation to try and catch someone somewhere, I see this campaign by you as fruitless and non-committed attempts to scum hunt.
As an aside; I am used to seeing well constructed cases by you, both aesthetic and meaningful. This game seems different, the case(s) were list heavy, points not extrapolated; if anything, a general lack of care. In fact, I am not even sure if the cases you have shared meet your definition of a case, as detailed to xsksc. Do you disagree?
Yeah, I have been posting drunk most of the time for this game and I've been very busy at work.
So, no nicely formatted cases this time 
I knew that my case against VE was crap, but I was too stubborn to reconsider my first impression. Then I was trolling people when threatening to shoot them D1. Because I thought I was going to be considered confirmed town.
I honestly thought that xsksc was mafia when I wrote my case, and I liked that both EZ and me went after jay after reading D1 again. My mistake this game is that I didn't consider yamato as a possible lynch target until very late, because of the miller claim.
And asking for the roles is important for me, because I can really know if there is a GF or not from this information. Mafia players or a potential SK could try to claim blue roles, but they are going to be owned by the setup, and that's also why I want to get rid of yamato first. Because I need to know if it was a fakeclaim or not.
I think it's obviously a fakeclaim now
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The thing is that this game is over for the mafia if there is no SK. I'm very confident that yamato is going to flip mafia, and after that we should lynch into iamp and JieXian for the win. I trust Vivax claim, because his claim and check and behavior towards you fits only a storyline with town Vivax. And from the setup we could clear you at 100% (or close). So we are left with 2 people to lynch with only one mislynch. So, yeah, it's kind of over for me now
That's why I'm not going to bother to write a very beautiful case. The scumslips from yamato are obvious enough, his filter indicates that he is scum. He doesn't even have any scumread today (so Prome kill on Sharrant was good in hindsight).
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so yeah
GG y u no concede ?
The scum team is iamp and yamato, game over guys
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