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And hopefully I will be voted Mayor cause having special powers is cool. | ||
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Replacements will probably be needed, BC might add another spot. IM NOT RID OF YOU YET. | ||
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Wont be able to get on for like 8-10 hours. Maybe post by phone if possible. GLHF | ||
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Also, you havent said anything about Sandro's reluctance to run and I think that since you are a 'vet' you should know him better than 80% of the people in the game. Hey Guys, Im not running for mayor cause Im not retarded and it makes me feel sad when I dont get votes. So I wont. Any Questions? | ||
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On January 20 2013 13:50 yamato77 wrote: I never said I wasn't running for mayor. If you guys want to elect me for my efforts today, I'm not going to stop you. I've already been scumhunting. I don't like what Toad wants to do today, which is basically sit on the idea of town reads (insanely easy thing for scum to do) and elect based on reputation. Most of town seems content with that idea, so far, actually, which is quite disturbing. So what are you gonna do about the fact that everyone agrees with Toad? | ||
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On January 20 2013 18:25 sandroba wrote: I'm gonna make a quick trip today and won't be able to post for aprox 15 hrs. See you guys later. And everyones question's are answered aout sandroba. Nice. | ||
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1) I think that is town 2) I think that is able to smack down(figure out) the scum. So basically, standerd stuff. So far, Gonzaw has a lot of activity but ima wait and see if its town motivated or scum motivated. I dont like Vivax entrance and subsequent disappearance but I mean its a null tell. He has got to know he would be called out like that. Axle, Please try to make your posts coherent to the people here, if we dont understand you, you will get ignored/lynched/vigged/unlikely nk | ||
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He has expressed delight in 2 players for mayor and hasnt expanded or anything. Regardless, Isnt it quick to vilify him so quickly? | ||
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Both sides of the case. Wishywashy. but Its early days. | ||
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Why did you vote austin FiveTouch? reasons and so forth? Also, whos smurf are you | ||
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On January 21 2013 07:47 FiveTouch wrote: sandroba not running for mayor is concerning in of itself, and his reason (decided before the game) is a weak one. I was kind of ok letting it slide, except he's now compounded it by not giving any input to the thread as well. As a prime player, if he's town, he should be using his expertise to help town come to good decisions, and he's distinctly not doing so. On January 21 2013 08:14 FiveTouch wrote: No particular reason. Explain how Sandro's answer is scummy and yours not so? | ||
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Vivax I want to communicate that I am a good candidate for mayor too. How good do you think your reads are? Isnt it a benefit for mafia if we ended up voting for you and you keep mislynching? Is anyone else that is running that you think is town and has better reads than you? | ||
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On January 21 2013 07:47 FiveTouch wrote: This is an extremely odd defence of JieXian. Why are you making it? That's because I find what Oats said to be the scummiest thing in the thread at the time, and I still feel that way. Given this is a mayoral election day, there is no risk whatsoever of a fast bandwagon on to JieXian, so his defence of him was completely unwarranted. Why did Oats not want any pressure on JieXian? Oats wasn't even defending his play, rather the fact there was pressure on him. It's scummy Why is me commenting on the pressure and the fact that it could snowball scummy? | ||
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Gonna be a good game huh. | ||
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I thought your answer to why you didnt want to be mayor was On January 21 2013 08:14 FiveTouch wrote: No particular reason. So what changed? Yamato On January 20 2013 13:51 yamato77 wrote: Basically this. Which makes sandroba's "I'm not running for mayor" post a huge fucking red flag in my eyes. Why would any town player not want the chance at being mayor, especially someone with his reputation? It offers protection, something he sorely needs if he is town. On January 20 2013 20:32 yamato77 wrote: I find my suspicions on Toad unwarranted. I may have to look at some Sandroba scum games to get a better read on him. His excuse is convenient but honestly it means nothing. So red flag became null read? Why? | ||
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Why didnt you push to be mayor before? Cause you wanted to see how you could manipulate town? Or cause you are lazy and wanted other town to have the responsibility? | ||
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On January 21 2013 08:48 Toadesstern wrote: screw that, let's make austin mayor. He's not optimal like someone like town sandroba would be but he's not bad at all and I saw the same thing FiveTouch mentioned about him. While it might be that FiveTouch is paying enough attention for something like that as mafia I really consider it a way stronger tell on austin. ##vote austin Also, About why me or Vivax: Because those two are pretty much confirmed town. I'm a bit more so than vivax but the paranoia is too strong in people. Random strong townreads are normally done by scum in my experience. So why did you decide to post that Vivax is confirmed town? To get people to vote for him? or? | ||
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Grush, Mkfuba, Jiexian Annul. Where did you guys go?? Especially Annul. Pops in, posts random shit and fucks off. | ||
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On January 21 2013 05:50 Toadesstern wrote: I'm on gonzaw for now. I like his most recent post for several things. Mostly talking about stuff I picked up as well, mostly stuff I agree on, mostly stuff I'm not sure mafia-gonzaw would pay enough attention to, to come to the same conclusion as I as well did. So ##vote Gonzaw Still would like to hear more from other people like Sandro, prplhz and annul. Why havent you continues to pressure prplhz and annul Toad? Considering they were your top 'mayor' picks at the start of the game. You are posting a lot of shit, do you have any scum reads that you can expand on? Or you only have Vivax the confirmed town | ||
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FiveTouch./Everyone sheeping him. On January 21 2013 08:32 FiveTouch wrote: I'd really much rather lynch Oatsmaster at the moment. For the reason I already mentioned, and in addition he asked me a terrible question on why me not running for mayor is not the same as sandroba not running for mayor. This means he read my post where I quite clearly stated it was sandroba's continuing lack of input that was the real problem, so he's twisting my words for no discernable reason. Terrible questions equal scum? I didnt know that bad play was scummy play as well :O | ||
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Reasoning for lynching me Oats looks like a decent lynch uhuh. Besides that post, you havent mentioned scum at all. | ||
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Im confused, Sandro had posted that he would be gone for a long period of time so isnt your point about my point a non point? Or does IRL issues make people scummy? | ||
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yeah, which is dumb as fuck. | ||
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HOWEVER, his disappearance since then is not good for him being town. I dont want to vote for a mayor that advocates lurker lynching because it removes the responsibility that the mayor has to justify his lynches. I want the mayor to not be fucking retarded and actually takes some responsibility for his actions. | ||
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On January 21 2013 12:29 AxleGreaser wrote: This narrows my field of vets somewhat to those that use rational understand not emotive baggage driven claims. prplhz : platform Lynch Chezinu. Chezinu: platform Lynch he(prplhz) who broke the Chezinu rule. (OMGUS Chezinu policy) Well the list is longer but I dont give out town reads. My criteria are I will need to be able to decide you are Town for myself in the future, that means being readable in why you do stuff. What do you think about 5touch, the popular candidate now? | ||
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Toad, You skipped the question by attacking me. Please answer it | ||
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On January 21 2013 13:41 gonzaw wrote: Hey Guys, Im not running for mayor cause Im not retarded and it makes me feel sad when I dont get votes. So I wont. Your some random smurf, regardless, what sandro said was that he would be gone for 15 hours. So you need to fucking read the thread. I want to communicate that I am a good candidate for mayor too. Every post of his has this "I don't give a fuck" attitude. He shows unnecessary aggression at anything at all, from random people posting to people accusing him, to even abstract concepts like a mayor election itself. Examples of that are the bolded bits for instance. That kind of aggression comes out of nowhere and is completely unnecessary, and it serves no purpose other than showing everybody you are the "boss" or something. I can't really see town motivation behind that. I wouldn't mind lynching him, as I wouldn't mind lynching Stutters. Stutters hasn't shown up yet, specially with his "catching up" post; which doesn't make things any easier. I'm still having trouble reading sandro, now that he came back he seems way too lazy, even for a scum sandro (as I remember from Liar Game).[/QUOTE] First bolded, how is that aggressive? Looks like you are nitpicking on my opening post. Second Bolded, I was reacting to 5touch who was pissing me off. 3rd Bolded, Vivax said that, not me. read the whole post in context so you actually find scum and not town. | ||
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On January 21 2013 13:41 gonzaw wrote: Hey Guys, Im not running for mayor cause Im not retarded and it makes me feel sad when I dont get votes. So I wont. Your some random smurf, regardless, what sandro said was that he would be gone for 15 hours. So you need to fucking read the thread. I want to communicate that I am a good candidate for mayor too. Every post of his has this "I don't give a fuck" attitude. He shows unnecessary aggression at anything at all, from random people posting to people accusing him, to even abstract concepts like a mayor election itself. Examples of that are the bolded bits for instance. That kind of aggression comes out of nowhere and is completely unnecessary, and it serves no purpose other than showing everybody you are the "boss" or something. I can't really see town motivation behind that. I wouldn't mind lynching him, as I wouldn't mind lynching Stutters. Stutters hasn't shown up yet, specially with his "catching up" post; which doesn't make things any easier. I'm still having trouble reading sandro, now that he came back he seems way too lazy, even for a scum sandro (as I remember from Liar Game). First bolded, how is that aggressive? Looks like you are nitpicking on my opening post. Second Bolded, I was reacting to 5touch who was pissing me off. 3rd Bolded, Vivax said that, not me. read the whole post in context so you actually find scum and not town. | ||
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Im ignoring campaign posts cause pregame writeups and stuff are non alignment indicative Gonzaw: Posts irrelevent stuff about coming back to the thread On January 21 2013 05:13 gonzaw wrote: Okay I'm here. I'm reading the thread now, will come back shortly On January 21 2013 11:20 gonzaw wrote: Okay got home. Nice to see some activity since then. I'll get around to posting in a moment after I get some shit done. I dont see the point as town, as scum, you look like you are gonna do stuff but if no one calls you out for it, easy stuff to do. And this, as far as I can remember, nothing changed between On January 21 2013 13:48 gonzaw wrote: I don't really agree with a prplhz lynch this D1 though. It seems like his normal play, and I don't think there's much to go on to be sure he's scum this game. He's not the paragon of townieness but I don't remember him being so in any town game from his (granted I only obsed games he played, I don't remember playing with him I think). There are better candidates out there. and On January 21 2013 14:16 gonzaw wrote: EBWOP: Although if Five should be mayor, I don't mind his lynch candidates at all, at least Oats ahead of prplhz. Don't remember what other's he mentioned though I would say trolling with your votes and reads is a scum read because it shows that you dont really care about who gets voted and you dont really care about who is scum, but apparently Gonzaw doesnt think so On January 21 2013 13:51 gonzaw wrote: \ Don't really know what to think of debears/grush; they are not making much sense and are kind of "trolling" with their votes and some of their reads, but that's too null to blindly lynch on D1. I dont think that Gonzaw is scum necessarily but I wouldnt want him as my mayor Day 1 Ok on to FiveTouch, He is leaking town through his pores, but I dont want to vote for him because day 1 lynch will be a mislynch. Me. However, if he changes his target, I would think about voting for him based on his reads. And Chezinu, Ok I have never played with him before and only know him by reputation and not much at that. He needs to make some sense, all his posts have been 1 liners and flighty comments about how his playstyle will change if he is mayor, non alignment indicative. I, however, think that if Chezinu is scum, he would put more effort into campaigning because it seems like he is getting some support but not capitalizing on it | ||
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I dont have a town read on Toad so no, he spams with not a lot of content. Sandro's lack of activity means that I dont have enough stuff to read him. | ||
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On January 21 2013 22:21 Oatsmaster wrote: Ok on to FiveTouch, He is leaking town through his pores, but I dont want to vote for him because day 1 lynch will be a mislynch. Me. However, if he changes his target, I would think about voting for him based on his reads. Must of skipped over this Vivax huh. | ||
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Well if 5touch wants to lynch someone that isnt me but someone I think is town, I will not vote for him. If he wants to lynch someone I think is scum, I would probably vote for him IF nothing changes. Mafia is a changing game and you gotta adapt. | ||
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Get out. I dont have to answer to you what im doing at all times. I think that using meta clinches a case but using meta solely isnt a good reason cause players change the way they play. Stop nitpicking. Gonzaw is a light shade of red, I think that scum need to have someone to control the mayoral elections or at least participate and I dont think that 5 touch is scum so by virtue of association and optimal play, I think gonzaw would flip red. | ||
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He also stood up to lurky sandro early about JX when he couldve ignored the incident. That is one of the reasons I have a town tell on him. I also agree with his lynch target now that I read his reasoning and Stutter's filter. Stutter's posted 4 posts and just disappeared, I feel that as a town player, his start wouldve been continued through the thread but it was not to be which makes me think that he is putting up a front of activity at the start to allay all suspicions then lurking his way through the rest of the game. Vote: Austinmcc | ||
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On January 22 2013 11:02 FiveTouch wrote: Honestly, prplhz's mafia flip just makes Oats look even worse than before. I could well have been choosing between two mafia in my deliberations. Oats dismissed the prplhz case for no particular reason, while supporting the Stutters case, despite his general tone of not lynching for lurkers. It's very hard to see a town Oats right now, with his attitude towards me/austin/stutters/prplhz. I dismissed the case cause I didnt think that the changes in meta were particularly scummy. Although his random WIFOM vote for you without any explaination probably put the nail in his coffin. I didnt want a mayor lynching a lurker like BroodkingEXE and Clarity. See the difference between them and Stutters? I attacked you earlier because you wanted to lynch me. I dont see how you being townie means that I am all nice to you when you want to lynch me. Its not a contridication, now it looks like you are making things up in order to discredit me for whatever reason. | ||
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On January 20 2013 22:08 Mocsta wrote: @Grush57.. I have a problem, and your the man to fix it. STARSENSES... Why are you unleashing your "famed" town breadcrumb so early. 1 Post in, and going for the trademark. This is scummy as fuck to me. Why is 'unleashing' his town breadcrumb early scummy? Shouldnt you judge him on his play rather than his 'breadcrumb' timing? Also, why are you so butthurt that Toad keeps spouting that 'vets' reads are more important? Do you want to feel important? Join a mini then :D | ||
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Ok so who would you be willing to lynch at this point? | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + On January 20 2013 15:36 gonzaw wrote: I sincerely can't understand what Axle is posting :/ I could figure out he questioning Vivax on his campaign initially, and wanted to vote Chezinu, but I have no idea what "I sheep Toad, even if i needed to find all my own reasons" means I also kind of skimmed/ignored parts of his last post since I didn't understand a thing. Seemed pretty funny in pre-game...not so much now. Then never mentions Axle again. On January 21 2013 05:43 gonzaw wrote: I'm not enjoying this "aggressiveness" you are showing Vivax, seems too needlessly provocative. Although you running for mayor in the first place (while being considered "not-vet" by most of us) doesn't really seem like something you'd do as scum, and maybe this "aggressiveness" stuff just means you are getting over-excited or something. Meh, certainly not enough to make any call other than leaning slightly town on you (gut feeling) so I'll let that pass. This reads as, Scummy, not scummy, meh I dont know. And then again, never questions Vivax at all. + Show Spoiler + On January 21 2013 05:48 gonzaw wrote: Well.........*sigh* I kind of feel this is "obvious scum sandroba", but obviously until he actually has the time to do something useful to town we can't do much about it :/ What kind of makes me "mad" about the "obvious scum vets" in games, is how people always let them be. Like, this happened with scum Foolishness in like 2 consecutive games where he lived until D5 or something. Either people ignore them, or say "meh, he could be town and thus could be an asset". These kind of people are so "obvious" scum (in a matter of speaking of course) when they roll scum and nobody does anything about it :/ I'd said sandro is one of those (maybe Palmar as well, although slightly less), based on the games I've obsed with him being scum (and Liar Game of course, where he lived...wait for it...until D5). I get the "if he's actually town he can be an asset" idea many people have.....but if he's just screaming scum at your face you can't try bullshitting your way out of that. Mentions Sandro and that he might be scum and AGAIN doesnt pressure him or nothing, not like you would do with your scum reads. + Show Spoiler + On January 21 2013 05:51 gonzaw wrote: Hmm, it seems funny to me that SO many people "voted" in this thread, yet there are like only 3 votes in the voting thread :/ This applies to Clarity, JieXian and others who put "##Vote: xxx" in here. Is it that hard to find the Voting thread in the main page? Random post that doesnt help anyone and is fluff but he phrases it like it is alignment indicative whether people vote in the Voting thread. Throwing suspicion subtly. + Show Spoiler + On January 21 2013 13:52 gonzaw wrote: Djoref, what do you think of Stutters? I didn't really notice you mentioning him that much. Also, do you think Clarity has more chances of flipping scum than Oats or Stutters or maybe even sandro, etc? On January 21 2013 14:03 gonzaw wrote: EBWOP: Oh well nevermind. Speaking of which Mocsta, what do you think of Stutters and Clarity? I don't remember you mentioning them in your filter. Testing the waters on whether he should push a stutters or clarity lynch. + Show Spoiler + On January 22 2013 10:12 gonzaw wrote: Oh shit lol I stand corrected. Doesnt post about what the prp flip means to the reads that he has on the mayor and the people who pushed his lynch. Also, seems weird for a townie post. Therefore, out of the runners, I think that GONZAW is scum. | ||
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On January 21 2013 22:21 Oatsmaster wrote: Ok on to FiveTouch, He is leaking town through his pores, but I dont want to vote for him because day 1 lynch will be a mislynch. Me. However, if he changes his target, I would think about voting for him based on his reads. Apparently you stopped reading after you found something that substantiated your point about me thinking that prp would be a mislynch. Must be an honest mistake and not you trying to misquote me right? | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + On January 22 2013 15:46 debears wrote: All you people can't you see, can't you see How your love's affecting our reality Every time we're down You can make it right And that makes you larger than life Did you roll scum? Or just decide that you didnt care about playing well and dick around? Seriously disappointing. | ||
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On January 22 2013 15:07 Mocsta wrote: Now THATS the vet type insight im looking for, even though its elementary for you guys. Noted; I have said my piece to the vigis out there and will move on. Tell me how this posts helps town, come on Tell me. Toad. This is all that you posted about wanting to lynch me On January 21 2013 11:18 Toadesstern wrote: Oats looks like a decent lynch. On January 21 2013 12:15 Toadesstern wrote: you're asking a bunch of questions that are either utterly useless or aren't backed up at all. You have nonsensical posts in your filter defending people when you really shouldn't (the short version): At a time when one guy mentioned JX while the complete rest of the thread ignored him. That's not bandwagoning at all, so why the need to defend him out of nowhere instead of checking what HE has to say himself? That's usually the strongest scumtreat there is in games of mafia. I didnt defend him for not being scum, I defended him from stupid bandwagons. On January 22 2013 11:10 Toadesstern wrote: There's better targets we should look into right now. Namely oats Why? I dont know, he didnt say. | ||
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[b] Must be an honest mistake and not you trying to misquote me right? [b] Going on to the might be scum read due to the fact that you dont want to admit your mistake. | ||
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Oatsmaster Ok on to FiveTouch, He is leaking town through his pores, but I dont want to vote for him because day 1 lynch will be a mislynch. Me. However, if he changes his target, I would think about voting for him based on his reads. I am saying that his mislynch WOULD BE ME, cause thats who he said he was gonna lynch at that time. I have no idea how you twisted it into prp would be a mislynch. Read the quotes properly next time so you dont accuse someone on a made-up argument based on misreading a quote. | ||
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Character Treats where treats mean An event or item that is out of the ordinary and gives great pleasure. or Character Traits where traits mean A distinguishing quality or characteristic, typically one belonging to a person. | ||
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When is the cycle ending? | ||
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Apparently that happened in another game where JK jailed scum and blocked a vig hit on him. Just play simple Toad.... | ||
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Im really confused about Vivax case, he rambles a lot and doesnt conclude at all, doesnt tell a story on how JX is scum, just links a few posts and summary. Seems like basically his case rests on the fact that JX isnt following up. Which after reading his filter, I dont agree with. I think that JX is town. | ||
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I liked this question @Vivax Why are you running for mayor? All you say is "I might do this, I might do that, I don't like scum, vote for me." and it seems like you don't know why you are running for mayor either. Why would we put you into office over these vets that you're not going to lynch because of how valuable they are to town? It seemed to me that no one was picking up on Vivax and the fact that his town campaign was pretty fluffy, including me. I didnt think that scum prp would do that because it focuses the attention on you and causes your actions to be more scrutinized especially since people were rolling with Vivax until his disappearence IIRC. In general, his posting was light-hearted and seemed carefree, when scum would probably try to be a bit more cautious with their posting. His lynch Chezinu post was also pretty townie in the sense that he had nothing to back it up and would obviously be called out for it, and was just throwing it out there, seemingly to obtain reactions. Stutters was scum because: My d1 reads are almost always wrong, so I'm not nearly as active. This post seems scummy to me because its not a reason not to be active. Day 1 reactions are good because its a time where you can see who is proactive and who isnt. Toads style feels much more like my own and I think that will help us analyze why he would do whatever he does after becoming mayor. I also see this as subtly buddying Toad, same style = same alignment? Especially since its wrong in the sense that Toad outrightly spammed day 1 and stutters stood back and answered questions and defended himself. His whole filter just generally seems like he is on the back foot, reacting to stuff, rather than creating content and trying to find scum. | ||
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Djo So Vivax is town, but wouldn't be a good mayor because he has bad reads, not because he is scum, as JieXian should believe. You said this, JX said this we love having him lynch townies with his bad reads. Which was why I'm not voting for Vivax mayor. Seems like JX isnt voting Vivax mayor because he has bad reads. Which means your point is invaild. Unless I misunderstand you? | ||
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However, I didnt take him seriously as a candidate for lynch in the beginning because you were pushing me, with prp mainly as an afterthought. With prome getting mislynched in Dessert, and he didnt try to save his skin by pushing just anyone that isnt himself, I thought that it was good play. So I didnt want to just try and convince you to vote prp instead of me because I thought he was town. | ||
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Was it even aimed at learning more about Chez? I dont think so. | ||
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Gonna ignore what you said until it makes sense. | ||
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Not following up on questions and scumreads makes you scum because you just ask those questions for the sake of asking questions and not to find scum You better actually read my filter though. "Never questions Vivax at all"....? How is this either true, or relevant? I mentioned later Vivax's "all or nothing" play seemed more likely to be town, so it was better to just ignore all the shit he was saying and tell him to stop it. Do you understand the meaning of questioning? It means to directly ask someone something. Mentioning that he is a townread without following up on your point seems scummy because it looks like you are just making conversation and following the flow of the thread. Oatsmaster: Testing the waters on whether he should push a stutters or clarity lynch. Gonzaw: How does that make sense in a mayor election D1? :/ Because people will also vote for the mayor because they agree with the lynch that the mayor pushes, so if the thread generally thinks that stutters or clarity is scum, you can push their lynch as part of your campaign. Overall, it seems like Gonzaw thinks that im bad, OMGUS, and just discredits my case that way. | ||
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On January 23 2013 11:00 debears wrote: 1) Mafia has a few vets and they want us to have to decide between actual town vets and the scum vets 2) Mafia has multiple lurkers and want us to wifom into lynching our vets What do you say? Isnt this all the possible scenarios? How does this helps us to find scum? | ||
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And we should stop speculating night kills and strategy. Annul, I thought you didnt want to waste the 48 hours, so where is your contribution? | ||
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You didn't save the guy you consider to be the best townie in this game to jail whom? Bugs? I'm not buying it. That isn't solid play and doesn't align with your view on sandro. This makes sense for Toad to do because he trusted Sandro's judgement on who to jail cause wifom, etc. Sandro happened to be wrong and died, but that doesnt make Toad scum because he didnt protect Sandro. Actually it makes him more townie cause he listened to Sandro, his so extremely town read. | ||
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I can defend whoever I want against anyone, especially against the fallacies that you posted earlier. | ||
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Trying to play better, IE not be so fucking stupid about people. | ||
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On January 21 2013 11:21 Oatsmaster wrote: So many people sheeping 'Fivetouch' Gonna be a good Game huh. On January 21 2013 11:58 Oatsmaster wrote: What does 5touch have done to deserve the mayorial position? Is it because all of you agree with his reads? Or think he is town? Cause all I see in his filter is a lot of 1 liners and not much else. FiveTouch./Everyone sheeping him. Do you deny that people were sheeping you 5touch? Do you deny the fact that your filter as of then was a lot of 1 liners. Not that it made you look scum, I just didnt see the content that I would expect someone who got like 3-4 quick votes to have. | ||
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I can honestly say I thought that in the Newbie game I would be one of the town leaders Here, I shy.  | ||
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I made one case on Clarity cause I thought it was a townie thing to do. I already told you, my play was so scummy that game, so should I continue to do it? Or change? | ||
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JX, I was a bystander and felt that it might snowball. | ||
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I have become more confident to pressure people. Uhuh, so other than the start of the game, which was poor play which I already addressed, Wouldnt you say im more confident than in my Chrono game? | ||
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Anyway, gonna sleep now. Vivax, please think before you post. | ||
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Also, I think that its not very accurate to use a meta read on me because I have only played 4 games, It was accurate and damning for Prp because he has played over 20 IIRC. Vivax, please stop shitting up the thread. | ||
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On January 23 2013 05:15 gonzaw wrote: Hmm, to be honest Five, I don't think that stuff you mention is that alignment-indicative. Like, it even happened with me. When you made your first post you were just some "noob" or "unknown guy" trying to appear like you were contributing and the like, you weren't "Palmar's/syllo's smurf leading town to victory" by then. I could see Oats changing his mind about you in that frame of time if he's town (as well as if he's scum like you said), so maybe that's what sandro/wbg/toad are arguing about. I think it'd be better to just stop that argument of "he changed his mind about Five!", and focus on other damning things about his play, like him being super angry for no reason and making a shitty OMGUS on me following with a bad case Quote where I am super angry and link that to being scum, come on Gonzaw. Also, please tell me how my case on you is OMGUS and not you being scum? if I was mayor I could lynch whoever the fuck I want, whether people "agree" with it or not. The reason why you wont do that as scum is because you will have to justify your lynch choice and why you changed it from who you claimed you would lynch as no one would vote for you if they disagreed with your lynch. Its not worth it for scum. Isnt this contradicting yourself? The "bad" thing is your case, I never called you bad Your "case" on me comes out of nowhere, has basically no valid point at all, yet it's somehow enough for you to instantly believe I'm scum. Doesnt the second point imply that I am bad/scum? but it doesn't seem to be the case since you are not following up on it at all, So the second case is an isolated incident that has no relation to the first. Right. | ||
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On January 24 2013 10:39 debears wrote: Upon learning of my bodyguard status as town, I realized one thing immediately: I only have this lynch left in the game Thus, I will very very likely be killed tonight. So, debears, why the sudden spike in activity? Because I have one more lynch I can help town with in this game Now, look at Oatsmaster's posting. What has his psychological mindset been since learning of being bodyguard? Nothing. No urgency. No realization that he will be nked soon. No great effort to help town out one last day Why? I think it's because he's scum. 1) He's focusing on defending himself instead of giving reads 2) If he was town, he would realize that he would die in the night, and that giving reads is priority over defending yourself 3) Most of the town has agreed that lynching into the bodyguards isn't a great strategy since we will either 1. die or 2. be found out once the mayor dies. Thus, it would only take real effort in a focused manner to ward off his lynch Are you kidding me. Im gonna summarize Debears filter after day 1. NK speculation Posts scummy stuff about Gonzaw. Posts casual 1 liners Justifies double lynch and nothing much else besides calling Vivax bad. How is this urgency? You have barely 3/4 page of useful filter. My psychological mindset on being bodyguard has not changed because I think that its futile to guess scum's nk's. If I die tmr at least I didnt waste town's lynch and soaked up a kp. | ||
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So sorry to hear that Clarity, hope everything is ok. | ||
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Why austin? I didnt see any mention of YOUR reasoning why I might be scum in your filter. Other than strategic roles and such which could be said for just about anybody. | ||
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Repost your 'contributions' for the thread for us to see that you are not sheeping if you care that much then.. | ||
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Meta read in my 5th game. WHO KNEW? | ||
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Stutters also, but what little activity he is doing is kinda changing my mind, if its not consistant soon though, he is scum I was getting meta'd in my 2nd game by... newbies I meant the meta thing as not being very accurate, not that it was high-level play | ||
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Seriously, Get comfirmation bias out of your head. | ||
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stutters has only been here in bursts, I cant pressure him or anything. I did mention stutters earlier day 2/ I think Gonzaw is scum? What do you expect me to do? | ||
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Then you do a full 180’ on FT based on what? There is no progression of read, it’s a direct jump from quote (2) Retard to quote (3) leaking town. How is that a 180? How is being town related to playing badly? In the Newbie game, you were shutting down disscussion and I posted that almost a day into the game. 2. Testing the waters on whether he should push a stutters or clarity lynch. The subjects of the lynch Gonzaw was testing the waters with dont matter, it was the way he went around doing, which was Hey, what are your reads on Clarity/Stutters. After almost nothing by him about them other than that they were lurking. 3. Reading out of context, [b]Gonzaw is a light shade of red, I think that scum need to have someone to control the mayoral elections or at least participate and I dont think that 5 touch is scum so by virtue of association and optimal play, I think gonzaw would flip red [/b[ This is the only part of the post where I was referring to Gonzaw, the rest were referring to Vivax. This is OMGUS? You call out your favourite scum read And then 1 minute later.. you post this. Complete change in thought process. You have already moved on.. that’s not the motives in a person head when seriously scum hunting, they focused. Your dabbling in and out of conversation like you don’t care. Am I not supposed to wait for him to respond? Do I tunnel him? Debears posted a weird ultimatum where he had this really cool idea why I was scum and said he would post it after I was active. You're, not Your. He is completely removed from this scum read.. wat the? Gonzaw wasnt there. Mocsta, tell me why 180s are scummy? | ||
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these 2 statments are mutually exclusive [b] Cause you wanted to see how you could manipulate town?[b] Scum Or cause you are lazy and wanted other town to have the responsibility? Town. Also, I think being lazy is bad play cause you are lazy | ||
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Also, this makes no sense as scum unless Vivax is trying an elaborate bus, on someone who wasnt gonna be lynched today. So. yeah. Gonzaw, what do you have to say about that? | ||
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Grush, what does this mean? On January 24 2013 08:18 grush57 wrote: Hello. I masoned yamato because I thought he was town. Annul shouldn't be lynched today sillywillies. Do you think that annul is town? Vivax, the way you presented the check was very odd and now, everyone is setup speculating, IE no useful alignment indicative posts. | ||
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And I disagree.. I been asleep the past 6 hours, caught up the thread, and made my own decision to swap to gonzaw.. i didnt sheep. the information i provided was original thought... thats a huge different. Mocsta, why do you feel that its important to express your non-sheepiness? | ||
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Mocsta, why do you feel that its important to express your non-sheepiness? Key word here is express, not why you feel its important to not sheep, but why you feel its important to SAY you are not sheeping without any provocation? | ||
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This doesnt tell me anything about why you mention that you are not sheeping. Maybe im stupid and dumb, but explain it again please :D | ||
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Mocsta. Im not saying that you were sheeping/why you are against sheeping, Im just wondering why you feel the need to TELL the rest of the thread? Its like scum caring about appearances. Im not sheeping guys, so im town | ||
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Why.. because if you dont have town cred, its very difficult to get traction on your reads/cases. I agree with this statment, but you dont have to mention that you are townie/express townie behaviour to get town 'cred' Fivetouch was pretty much unanimously read as town without having to mention all that stuff, and just being logical and playing well. | ||
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Its like if you get an A in class and tell everybody that you are really good at that class. You should just let your words speak for themselves. | ||
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Yamato, why you gotta be so rude? | ||
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He doesnt really seem to be playing pro-town, just shouting at people, random comments. For balance reasons though, I think its unlikely that he is scum. He also doesnt seem to be pushing any agenda and just playing post by post. | ||
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I think grush could be scum. Because, he is trolling the thread, has no actual scum reads. He still hasnt explained why he masoned yamato. | ||
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I'm doing you guys a favour, Modkills are way worse. Modkills are better than lynching a lurker so I dont see his motivation for doing this. Annul is more of a gut read for me. He is tunneling and acting pretty oblivious to things, which strikes me as scummy since he is a more experienced player. None of these things indicate that Annul is scum, seems like he is just throwing it out there, especially since Annul was a hot topic. Quite honestly I can understand why you think I am scum. The problem I am finding, in my readthrough of filters, I am feeling really disconnected with the thread, due to initial missing the onset of the game. If you have anything you want my opinion or read on you can ask me. I just aren't finding relevant topics for me to post on. Please ask away. Scum cant find things to talk about because they dont want to bus their partners and cant make a case about townies. He is couching his question like he is understanding and open, but scum could do this too. I see his posting as really laid back, like he doesnt care about finding scum. | ||
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Who do you think is most likely scum? | ||
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Like whats wrong with personal attacks? | ||
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Like other words were used to mean what ad-hominem means, why you gotta use that phrase? | ||
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The point of this game is to lynch scum, so jailing him will confirm/deny that he is scum. Then we lynch him 100% if it turns out that he is scum. | ||
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Why lynch BKE when jailing him will show if he's scum? Sounds like when you red-checked Gonzaw and wanted to lynch 5touch. | ||
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Did anything stand out to you/Scummy? | ||
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Be back in 12-13 hours. | ||
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Today's lynches, BKE Chez Unknown 5th scum. About BKE, On January 22 2013 09:57 BroodKingEXE wrote: I'm doing you guys a favour, Modkills are way worse. Like what is up with this post? Modkills are not worse, cause then we dont need to waste a lynch on a lurker cause he decided to not show up in the thread and just randomly vote to not get modkilled = looks like scum. Already said this early in the game. On January 22 2013 10:01 BroodKingEXE wrote: Based on a filter read of the top canidates I liked austin the best. I think he is a person most people would listen too, Toad/Chez/and yourself are just too controversial. He didnt say that he thought the mayor's were scum/scummy/bad reads, he said that they were controversial, which is a bullshit reason that scum give. On January 24 2013 15:31 BroodKingEXE wrote: What is the Annul/Gonzaw/Chez triangle? Is it based on setup speculation, or the general likelihood that one vet is scum? He is thinking, Ok, why is my scum member being accused? Also setup speculation and the probablilty that one vet is scum is the same thing, he wrote it twice because he has to have a counter-argument. On January 25 2013 05:07 BroodKingEXE wrote: You are literally throwing scum teams out of your ass. You are bullshitting and I dont know how that affects your alignment. This is what BKE is saying. Then he comments on Toad's setup speculation without drawing any conclusions that he wants to share. On January 25 2013 11:35 BroodKingEXE wrote: Anyone could have got gonzaw into sheriff position, but no one did. Pretty moot speculation. | ||
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There is absolutly no reason not to unvote Chez if you think that Annul is town. | ||
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Is this all a ploy just to see the reactions of people? Kinda shitty plan | ||
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On January 27 2013 01:02 mkfuba07 wrote: Could someone remind me again why clarity/Adam is rather confirmed in many peoples' eyes? I went through his filter and while I see some townie posts I didn't feel it was enough to rule him out. Is there some meta I missed? Same for axelgreaser, though I haven't gone through his filter yet. What is the townread on him centered around? Asking for the reasons for townreads. On January 27 2013 01:31 mkfuba07 wrote: Chez I haven't filtered or anything, but the surety of DS, toad, and FT (particularly FT, since I've clearly come to some disagreement with DS and toad) is telling me to go with it. There were a few things going through the voting thread that go along with a scum chez, so I think it's viable. I guess I'll even vote chez, just to have that second vote on scum until I can find the 5th. ##Vote: Chezinu Gotta go walk the dog, be back soon if anyone wants to talk a bit. Sheeping the popular vote blatently. His filter has basically no reads, other than 'I read your filter and I dont want to lynch you today'. Also gives out a newbie vibe by budding 5touch and such, asking for others help in understanding. Doesnt take a strong stance in any issue. Keeps talking about the 5th scum, hasnt actually found a candidate. | ||
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Cause you think im town? ok my suspects for the Final Scum are, Mkfuba Grush Adam At this point, I think its mkfuba | ||
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Read the bottom one before the top one :D | ||
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On January 28 2013 10:04 Mocsta wrote: man. fuckn Annul.. knew it What is with this post? | ||
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Or do you think Annul is scum from something else? | ||
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This phrase is factually correct but it doesnt make him scum. | ||
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Why? | ||
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Why do you want to know if a medic saves 2kp? | ||
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It is an absolutely useless question, which makes me wonder why you are defending it so hard. | ||
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And this question and shitflinging has run its course. | ||
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Only thing I can find. | ||
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maybe put a it was unlikely that I'd save him before the end of D2. | ||
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Its night austin, no one is even close to lynching you. | ||
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On January 29 2013 01:43 yamato77 wrote: How many blue roles does town have? How about this, everyone that's not a blue, claim. No, just no. | ||
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*IT WAS A JOKE GUYS* excuse is pretty bad Dont you think something is wrong with your play when people instantly think that you would actually propose this? | ||
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On January 29 2013 01:49 yamato77 wrote: Now you're just trying to be coy. Im not being coy, Im just not shitting up the thread now. | ||
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Mkfuba, Why did you write this? both Mocsta and Chez flipped already, so this is really useless. | ||
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Who do you want to lynch today | ||
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On January 29 2013 12:43 yamato77 wrote: Okay, Marv. Fine. Bye. Answer my question. | ||
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I want to lynch MKFUBA | ||
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On January 29 2013 13:13 Vivax wrote: I'm an idiot. I saved scum from being lynched to lynch another scum. Explain | ||
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On January 29 2013 18:07 BinOnFire wrote: So what do you think about Austin claiming vet? I am so fucking bad at this. | ||
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Are you kidding me. Giving scum info=bad. Toad, how big of a mason cycle are you in? | ||
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On January 29 2013 21:18 BinOnFire wrote: Yeah, considering on Axle's general posting patterns in the newbie that he played, in which pretty much it died after night 2, he posted a LOT. Here, not so much. Also, Im totally ignoring his posts cause I cant understand them HOW IS IT SO HARD?? // | ||
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Toad mind quoting where you think axle is soft-claiming medic? The Pm you quoted I think is probably the nail though. | ||
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On January 29 2013 23:04 AxleGreaser wrote: Because I am not familiar with whats what with Jargon I forgot that Townie is not just the name of the role in this game but also a generic word. I am townie means (I am one of the kinds of towns, in generic usage) I used it to claim my role. And yes the even very first PM to be sure i got it right I looked at the OP not my PM. You required clarification, remembering we are in this mess due to failure to communicate accurately.... I did so I was both precise, and obeyed da rules, remember i have thing about those.... You may however feel free to do " when you roleclaim you copy & paste your role from your rolepm and not from the OP..." I wont ever. This post. Toad had a problem when Axle said that he had quoted from the OP not when he used the word townie. Who quotes their role pm when claiming? Scum do cause they want it to seem like its as accurate as possible. | ||
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Are you interested in the game? Do you have any reads of any description that you would care to elaborate upon? | ||
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On January 30 2013 14:31 BinOnFire wrote: Why did you just explain for him? also, who do you want to lynch and why? SO MANY TIMES. | ||
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Also, Axle is way too unreadable, as in his posts are difficult to read. Please try to change that next game huh? :D 1 scum left, 10+town alive. | ||
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Austin was checked as vet. I kinda thought it was Austin after the elections cause he disappeared like Chez, but I guess not mkfuba has really stepped it up since the first day, even during the night. Im still kinda on Stutters, need to read his filter though. | ||
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ive done very well this game given my role and the circumstances. Circumstances like having your scum buddies lynched almost perfectly? | ||
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Marv stomped. Sorry for playing so badly :/ | ||
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Scum's day 1 was HORRIBLE. If we got gonzaw into sherrif, who knows how this game wouldve gone. Marv, why you be busting out the META and being 100% accurate? Except BKE that was hilarious. | ||
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Now I need to match my town and scum styles together.  But really well played Marv. | ||
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Well Bugs didnt actually push any scum lynch and hard defended me so I do think leaving him alive was decent. The sandro kill was lucky though :D Overall, SCUM PLAYED HORRIBLY. And this is what happens when town is UNITED and yeah roflstomp ensues. | ||
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