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Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 21 2013 23:27 GMT
#968
On January 22 2013 08:26 yamato77 wrote:
Austin finding out my problem with Vivax's play this whole game.

I've only been shouting it for the last 24 hours.

I'm not so happy if Toad gets sherrif but I am not outright opposing it any longer. Vivax being retarded shouldn't affect my read of toad.

what do you make of the information that I'm a masoned and masoned Sandro 10 secs into d1? Think I'd do that as mafia?
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 22 2013 00:13 GMT
#984
On January 22 2013 08:54 austinmcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2013 08:51 Djodref wrote:
I'm just waking up, not time to catch up properly...
I'd like to have Toad sheriff based on his mason claim, is there any reason I should not ?
Mason isn't alignment-determinative this game, but if you believe he's townie then no, there's not really a reason not to try and get him protection. I do like the idea of Toad, if he's town, being able to engage in mason chats without risking a night kill, or with scum having to out 1-2 members in order to take him out quickly.



do you think I as a mafia would mason town sandroba?

It's either both Sandro and me town or Sandro mafia (unlikely) and I am town.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 22 2013 00:18 GMT
#985
oh someone else already mentioned it, my bad was kind of busy finishing a game of dota.
Anyways Gonzaw do your thing, make me sheriff!
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 22 2013 00:27 GMT
#990
On January 22 2013 09:19 austinmcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2013 09:13 Toadesstern wrote:
On January 22 2013 08:54 austinmcc wrote:
On January 22 2013 08:51 Djodref wrote:
I'm just waking up, not time to catch up properly...
I'd like to have Toad sheriff based on his mason claim, is there any reason I should not ?
Mason isn't alignment-determinative this game, but if you believe he's townie then no, there's not really a reason not to try and get him protection. I do like the idea of Toad, if he's town, being able to engage in mason chats without risking a night kill, or with scum having to out 1-2 members in order to take him out quickly.



do you think I as a mafia would mason town sandroba?

It's either both Sandro and me town or Sandro mafia (unlikely) and I am town.
First, just so you know I'm town, you could also both be scum with you actually being a mason, holding the mason power for a single cycle, and pretty much knocking the thought out of anyone's head that you could both be scum. I'm going to assume you didn't lend your account info to drazerk though, and instead be 99.99% sure that's not what is happening.

I think that you would generally play the same way as mafia or town. If townToad would mason Sandro, then scumToad would likely do the same, otherwise you'd end up getting caught later for no good reason. But that's not really a factor here.

I thought strongly that you were town at the beginning of this cycle. There was a weird point in the middle where I became less sure. I'm trying to figure out where I became less certain, to put in my full due diligence, but I was also just sitting around seeing what would happen after your claim.


Yeah I somewhat agree. Both on the fact that I forgot about the double mafia possibility (because I'm not and you don't seem to believe it either, but yeah it's possible) and on the fact that I'd probably do the same as mafia.
If not, I'm totally going to do it next time I roll mafia because of this :p

But people generally consider it a towntell because they don't think I've got the balls to do that as mafia.
Either way what it means is that I'll continue masoning strong people and if I'm really mafia I'm helping you figure me out this way by doing so and I won't be a problem.

On top of that I'm actually just town and it's really awesome to have a mason for that role for reasons you already mentioned :p
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 22 2013 00:45 GMT
#996
On January 22 2013 09:30 austinmcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2013 09:27 Toadesstern wrote:
On January 22 2013 09:19 austinmcc wrote:
On January 22 2013 09:13 Toadesstern wrote:
On January 22 2013 08:54 austinmcc wrote:
On January 22 2013 08:51 Djodref wrote:
I'm just waking up, not time to catch up properly...
I'd like to have Toad sheriff based on his mason claim, is there any reason I should not ?
Mason isn't alignment-determinative this game, but if you believe he's townie then no, there's not really a reason not to try and get him protection. I do like the idea of Toad, if he's town, being able to engage in mason chats without risking a night kill, or with scum having to out 1-2 members in order to take him out quickly.



do you think I as a mafia would mason town sandroba?

It's either both Sandro and me town or Sandro mafia (unlikely) and I am town.
First, just so you know I'm town, you could also both be scum with you actually being a mason, holding the mason power for a single cycle, and pretty much knocking the thought out of anyone's head that you could both be scum. I'm going to assume you didn't lend your account info to drazerk though, and instead be 99.99% sure that's not what is happening.

I think that you would generally play the same way as mafia or town. If townToad would mason Sandro, then scumToad would likely do the same, otherwise you'd end up getting caught later for no good reason. But that's not really a factor here.

I thought strongly that you were town at the beginning of this cycle. There was a weird point in the middle where I became less sure. I'm trying to figure out where I became less certain, to put in my full due diligence, but I was also just sitting around seeing what would happen after your claim.


Yeah I somewhat agree. Both on the fact that I forgot about the double mafia possibility (because I'm not and you don't seem to believe it either, but yeah it's possible) and on the fact that I'd probably do the same as mafia.
If not, I'm totally going to do it next time I roll mafia because of this :p

But people generally consider it a towntell because they don't think I've got the balls to do that as mafia.
Either way what it means is that I'll continue masoning strong people and if I'm really mafia I'm helping you figure me out this way by doing so and I won't be a problem.

On top of that I'm actually just town and it's really awesome to have a mason for that role for reasons you already mentioned :p
Alright then.

Do you feel completely happy with FT as mayor? His vote-getting and mayorship in general? If not, do you feel like you can answer honestly or is that giving something away?

We have the option to adjust which of you is which, I suppose, and I don't think that the D1 lynch is fully telling, but him as mayor means both us getting info from his D1 lynch AND giving him a triple vote foevah.

I'm good with him being mayor. I don't know if I like his lynchchoice the best but it's decent.

I had 3 horrible games in a row and Sandro realized that I'm way more conservative when I showed him my read-sheet and it's because I'd rather see at least 1 or 2 people flip to get some confidence back. So I don't think I should be the one deciding the d1 lynch, again another reason I didn't run for mayor to begin with until I realized sheriff is pretty damn nice as mason as well.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 22 2013 00:49 GMT
#1000
On January 22 2013 09:33 AxleGreaser wrote:

TLDR; So you Buddied Sandro Straight out of the gate without even a reason.... except that doing it straight of the gate was known by you to be WIFOM for Im town guys. So did you GAF if Snadro was scum you were masoning or Town?
Wheres the suspicion?


The reasoning was:
Sandroba is by far the best player. I wanted Sandroba to be mayor if he's town at that point in time so I wanted to be able to read him as good as possible so I straight up masoned him.
Also as you said I'm hard to read and I'm pretty damn good as mafia. Giving you guys (via proxxy thanks to Sandro) a possibilty to read me better is only beneficial.

So yeah, I straight up masoned him to so that I am able to read HIM decently as soon as possible and so that he is able to read me decently as soon as possible.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 22 2013 01:11 GMT
#1031
We're probably not allowed to talk about the lynch right now :p
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 22 2013 01:12 GMT
#1034
BAM
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 22 2013 01:15 GMT
#1042
only a goon and no GF though

Mafia probably has very little powerroles but a GF pretty much has to be in play and it's usually given to someone vet-ish...
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 22 2013 01:18 GMT
#1045
On January 22 2013 10:17 FiveTouch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2013 10:15 Toadesstern wrote:
only a goon and no GF though

Mafia probably has very little powerroles but a GF pretty much has to be in play and it's usually given to someone vet-ish...


You're welcome to expand on this thought.

on the missing GF part or on the mafia has problably few powerroles?
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 22 2013 01:22 GMT
#1048
oh didn't realize that mafia can decide who gets the roles. Well in that case screw that.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 22 2013 01:24 GMT
#1050
yeah
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 22 2013 01:26 GMT
#1052
+ Show Spoiler [small exert] +
[20.01.2013 02:46:34] Erik: hey
[20.01.2013 02:46:37] Erik: we're masoned!
[20.01.2013 02:50:45] Erik: you here?
[20.01.2013 03:44:39] Sandro Maculan: sup
[20.01.2013 03:44:44] Sandro Maculan: just got here
[20.01.2013 03:44:57] Erik: not much going on in the thread yet
[20.01.2013 03:45:10] Sandro Maculan: i'm completely
[20.01.2013 03:45:13] Sandro Maculan: utterly
[20.01.2013 03:45:18] Sandro Maculan: immensily
[20.01.2013 03:45:20] Sandro Maculan: drunk
[20.01.2013 03:45:30] Erik: weeeeeeell
[20.01.2013 03:45:35] Erik: means I get to read you better
[20.01.2013 03:45:53] Sandro Maculan: my pm says nothing about mason
[20.01.2013 03:45:55] Sandro Maculan: wtf
[20.01.2013 03:46:00] Erik: i masoned you
[20.01.2013 03:46:03] Sandro Maculan: oh
[20.01.2013 03:46:14] Sandro Maculan: hmm
[20.01.2013 03:46:25] Sandro Maculan: u can use it during the day
[20.01.2013 03:46:32] Erik: yeah once every cycle
[20.01.2013 03:46:39] Erik: and it's just for one cycle
[20.01.2013 03:47:01] Erik: so I figured I'd go for you to try and get a could idea about wether I want you to be mayor
[20.01.2013 03:47:08] Sandro Maculan: what are the chances
[20.01.2013 03:47:14] Sandro Maculan: we both are town in this roster
[20.01.2013 03:47:20] Erik: and you might die early if you're town so no need to wait longer to mason you^^
[20.01.2013 03:47:34] Erik: I wouldn't say they're bad
[20.01.2013 03:47:40] Sandro Maculan: i dont wanna be mayor
[20.01.2013 03:47:45] Erik: why?
[20.01.2013 03:47:51] Sandro Maculan: dunno
[20.01.2013 03:47:59] Sandro Maculan: i figured i'd try something different
[20.01.2013 03:48:08] Erik: well you'll get shot if you're town...
[20.01.2013 03:48:16] Sandro Maculan: sure
[20.01.2013 03:48:22] Sandro Maculan: that's okay
[20.01.2013 03:48:50] Erik: so I have to find someone else to make mayor...
[20.01.2013 03:49:00] Erik: because I don't want myself or chezinu as mayor to be honest
[20.01.2013 03:49:11] Sandro Maculan: i was hopping you would run
[20.01.2013 03:49:14] Sandro Maculan: no?
[20.01.2013 03:49:25] Erik: and with you out of the field that leaves people like prplhz. annul and gonzaw
[20.01.2013 03:49:35] Sandro Maculan: i think i can tell wether chez is mafia
[20.01.2013 03:49:41] Erik: don't think we need someone as troublesome as me as mayor
[20.01.2013 03:49:48] Erik: same reason I don't want chez as mayor
[20.01.2013 03:50:10] Erik: because no matter what happens there'll be a shitstorm d2 if either chez or I end up being mayor...
[20.01.2013 03:50:57] Sandro Maculan: you are okay
[20.01.2013 03:51:12] Erik: I just had the 3 worst games of my life
[20.01.2013 03:51:18] Erik: I don't think I'm okay :D
[20.01.2013 03:51:34] Sandro Maculan: how did i end up in the same line
[20.01.2013 03:51:48] Sandro Maculan: as you gonzaw annul, prpl and chez
[20.01.2013 03:51:52] Sandro Maculan: OMG
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 22 2013 01:27 GMT
#1054
should I post everything? Just posted a little, to show it :p
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 22 2013 01:29 GMT
#1056
I don't think it's likely that Sandro is mafia at all. Prplhz was his very first read he gave me if I remember correctly, right off the bat telling me we should lynch him.
I don't think he'd do that as mafia and it felt genuine how he doubted it later on.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 22 2013 01:31 GMT
#1059
fine give me a sec, want to edit two things out I said and read it for other stuff that I might want to edit out. We never talked about roles or anything like that but might be forgetting something
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 22 2013 01:36 GMT
#1064
On January 22 2013 10:32 FiveTouch wrote:
Please don't edit out anything related to this game. I don't think that's what you meant, but yeah.

I'm planning on editing out thoughts about what I might do if I end up being sheriff and the link to my sheet (picture of the sheet that is).
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 22 2013 01:48 GMT
#1070
+ Show Spoiler [big wall of text in here] +
[20.01.2013 02:46:34] Erik: hey
[20.01.2013 02:46:37] Erik: we're masoned!
[20.01.2013 02:50:45] Erik: you here?
[20.01.2013 03:44:39] Sandro Maculan: sup
[20.01.2013 03:44:44] Sandro Maculan: just got here
[20.01.2013 03:44:57] Erik: not much going on in the thread yet
[20.01.2013 03:45:10] Sandro Maculan: i'm completely
[20.01.2013 03:45:13] Sandro Maculan: utterly
[20.01.2013 03:45:18] Sandro Maculan: immensily
[20.01.2013 03:45:20] Sandro Maculan: drunk
[20.01.2013 03:45:30] Erik: weeeeeeell
[20.01.2013 03:45:35] Erik: means I get to read you better
[20.01.2013 03:45:53] Sandro Maculan: my pm says nothing about mason
[20.01.2013 03:45:55] Sandro Maculan: wtf
[20.01.2013 03:46:00] Erik: i masoned you
[20.01.2013 03:46:03] Sandro Maculan: oh
[20.01.2013 03:46:14] Sandro Maculan: hmm
[20.01.2013 03:46:25] Sandro Maculan: u can use it during the day
[20.01.2013 03:46:32] Erik: yeah once every cycle
[20.01.2013 03:46:39] Erik: and it's just for one cycle
[20.01.2013 03:47:01] Erik: so I figured I'd go for you to try and get a could idea about wether I want you to be mayor
[20.01.2013 03:47:08] Sandro Maculan: what are the chances
[20.01.2013 03:47:14] Sandro Maculan: we both are town in this roster
[20.01.2013 03:47:20] Erik: and you might die early if you're town so no need to wait longer to mason you^^
[20.01.2013 03:47:34] Erik: I wouldn't say they're bad
[20.01.2013 03:47:40] Sandro Maculan: i dont wanna be mayor
[20.01.2013 03:47:45] Erik: why?
[20.01.2013 03:47:51] Sandro Maculan: dunno
[20.01.2013 03:47:59] Sandro Maculan: i figured i'd try something different
[20.01.2013 03:48:08] Erik: well you'll get shot if you're town...
[20.01.2013 03:48:16] Sandro Maculan: sure
[20.01.2013 03:48:22] Sandro Maculan: that's okay
[20.01.2013 03:48:50] Erik: so I have to find someone else to make mayor...
[20.01.2013 03:49:00] Erik: because I don't want myself or chezinu as mayor to be honest
[20.01.2013 03:49:11] Sandro Maculan: i was hopping you would run
[20.01.2013 03:49:14] Sandro Maculan: no?
[20.01.2013 03:49:25] Erik: and with you out of the field that leaves people like prplhz. annul and gonzaw
[20.01.2013 03:49:35] Sandro Maculan: i think i can tell wether chez is mafia
[20.01.2013 03:49:41] Erik: don't think we need someone as troublesome as me as mayor
[20.01.2013 03:49:48] Erik: same reason I don't want chez as mayor
[20.01.2013 03:50:10] Erik: because no matter what happens there'll be a shitstorm d2 if either chez or I end up being mayor...
[20.01.2013 03:50:57] Sandro Maculan: you are okay
[20.01.2013 03:51:12] Erik: I just had the 3 worst games of my life
[20.01.2013 03:51:18] Erik: I don't think I'm okay :D
[20.01.2013 03:51:34] Sandro Maculan: how did i end up in the same line
[20.01.2013 03:51:48] Sandro Maculan: as you gonzaw annul, prpl and chez
[20.01.2013 03:51:52] Sandro Maculan: OMG
[20.01.2013 03:51:55] Erik: ?
[20.01.2013 03:51:59] Sandro Maculan: hahaha
[20.01.2013 03:52:03] Erik: well that's the alternatives...
[20.01.2013 03:52:08] Sandro Maculan: =P
[20.01.2013 03:52:11] Sandro Maculan: i'm j/k
[20.01.2013 03:52:24] Erik: I haven't seen annul and prplhz play in a while
[20.01.2013 03:52:41] Erik: prplhz is troublesome because his play is erratic resultwise so not sure about that
[20.01.2013 03:52:42] Sandro Maculan: i'ma find a townie mother fucker
[20.01.2013 03:52:50] Erik: annul hasn'T played in a while
[20.01.2013 03:52:56] Erik: and gonzaw is just straight up annoying
[20.01.2013 03:53:06] Sandro Maculan: the ones that post "I'm scum!" first post
[20.01.2013 03:53:18] Sandro Maculan: then i''l vote for him
[20.01.2013 03:53:33] Sandro Maculan: prpl may be scum from his 1st post
[20.01.2013 03:53:44] Sandro Maculan: i wont be voting for him
[20.01.2013 03:54:16] Erik: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=393344&currentpage=11#210
[20.01.2013 03:54:17] Erik: that one?
[20.01.2013 03:54:58] Erik: it looks someone bad I guess but it's really early d1 so I wouldn't put to much into it
[20.01.2013 03:55:08] Erik: the only read I've got so far is that vivax guy
[20.01.2013 03:55:40] Sandro Maculan: has nothing to do with bad
[20.01.2013 03:55:49] Erik: oh and AxleGreaser might be someone to look into
[20.01.2013 03:55:52] Sandro Maculan: i just think it's a little out of character
[20.01.2013 03:55:56] Erik: "I sheep Toad, even if i needed to find all my own reasons..." that sounds really weird
[20.01.2013 03:56:11] Sandro Maculan: huh?
[20.01.2013 03:56:16] Sandro Maculan: what post does it say that
[20.01.2013 03:56:27] Erik: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=393344&currentpage=11#216
[20.01.2013 03:56:30] Erik: the very bottom
[20.01.2013 03:56:40] Erik: where he explains his reasoning for not voting vivax
[20.01.2013 03:56:51] Sandro Maculan: meh
[20.01.2013 03:56:57] Sandro Maculan: too soon to tell i think
[20.01.2013 03:57:04] Sandro Maculan: specially from that dude
[20.01.2013 03:57:12] Erik: might be him not being a native speaker but "I needed to find my own reasoning" sounds semi scumslip
[20.01.2013 03:57:24] Erik: but I usually ignore those if it's not a native speaker^^
[20.01.2013 03:57:39] Sandro Maculan: he seems loose
[20.01.2013 03:57:51] Sandro Maculan: already
[20.01.2013 03:57:57] Sandro Maculan: that's a town tell
[20.01.2013 03:58:12] Erik: never played with him before
[20.01.2013 03:58:21] Sandro Maculan: i read a game
[20.01.2013 03:58:23] Erik: so idk. from my point of view it's not^^
[20.01.2013 03:58:27] Sandro Maculan: he tried to lynch the host
[20.01.2013 03:58:29] Erik: knowing how I play as mafia
[20.01.2013 03:59:21] Erik: oh I've got a routerreset in 60 secs, be back in a min
[20.01.2013 03:59:35] Sandro Maculan: k
[20.01.2013 04:02:46] Erik: back
[20.01.2013 04:03:05] Erik: how about I make you mayor nevertheless
[20.01.2013 04:04:25] Sandro Maculan: i dont know if by the rules i can refuse being mayor
[20.01.2013 04:04:38] Erik: I don't think you can^^
[20.01.2013 04:04:46] Erik: can't refuse being lynched either
[20.01.2013 04:04:54] Sandro Maculan: anyway i dont want the troubble
[20.01.2013 04:04:56] Erik: and it says it's the same as a lynch vote
[20.01.2013 04:04:59] Sandro Maculan: i bet you 10 bucks
[20.01.2013 04:05:06] Sandro Maculan: i will get shot n1
[20.01.2013 04:05:10] Sandro Maculan: and the 2 medics
[20.01.2013 04:05:18] Sandro Maculan: will both protect someone random
[20.01.2013 04:05:25] Sandro Maculan: =P
[20.01.2013 04:05:28] Erik: exactly
[20.01.2013 04:05:36] Sandro Maculan: it's gonna be nice
[20.01.2013 04:05:45] Erik: which is the reasoning I want someone like you having bodyguards if you're town
[20.01.2013 04:05:48] Sandro Maculan: i''ll never commit any reads
[20.01.2013 04:05:52] Erik: so I don't see a reason for you not to run
[20.01.2013 04:05:55] Sandro Maculan: and will claim i knew it all post game
[20.01.2013 04:05:58] Sandro Maculan: gg
[20.01.2013 04:06:21] Sandro Maculan: i kinda made up my mind pre game
[20.01.2013 04:06:31] Sandro Maculan: no matter if i rolled mafia or town\
[20.01.2013 04:06:46] Sandro Maculan: actually i told syllo that i might run if mafia
[20.01.2013 04:06:51] Sandro Maculan: for consistency
[20.01.2013 04:08:04] Erik: oh gawd I so don't want to have someone like gonzaw as mayor
[20.01.2013 04:08:09] Sandro Maculan: if you wre mafia do you think you would mason me?
[20.01.2013 04:08:17] Erik: he's going to be so annoying
[20.01.2013 04:08:23] Erik: could be, idk
[20.01.2013 04:08:32] Sandro Maculan: did gonzaw even post yet?
[20.01.2013 04:08:37] Erik: no he did not
[20.01.2013 04:08:45] Erik: I'm just checking the playerlist
[20.01.2013 04:08:58] Erik: and looking at who I'd be willign to vote in theory...
[20.01.2013 04:09:09] Erik: about the mason thing if I were mafia:
[20.01.2013 04:09:19] Erik: I had a decent pm game a couple days ago
[20.01.2013 04:09:25] Erik: so I'd probably be confident as mafia
[20.01.2013 04:09:26] Sandro Maculan: kinda awkward
[20.01.2013 04:09:33] Sandro Maculan: i dont think i know anyone
[20.01.2013 04:09:55] Sandro Maculan: besides you chez austin and annul
[20.01.2013 04:10:09] Erik: and prplhz but you already ruled him out
[20.01.2013 04:10:22] Sandro Maculan: oh yeah
[20.01.2013 04:10:36] Sandro Maculan: dunno i didnt like his first post for some reason
[20.01.2013 04:11:01] Erik: you never played with gonzaw before?
[20.01.2013 04:11:10] Erik: you saw LI, didn't you?
[20.01.2013 04:11:12] Sandro Maculan: yeah i did i think
[20.01.2013 04:11:14] Sandro Maculan: 1 game
[20.01.2013 04:11:27] Sandro Maculan: he just trolled from what i remember
[20.01.2013 04:11:38] Erik: broodkingexe is someone you might know as well
[20.01.2013 04:11:56] Sandro Maculan: i think i played 1 game with him
[20.01.2013 04:12:06] Sandro Maculan: he was horrible
[20.01.2013 04:12:14] Erik: yeah
[20.01.2013 04:12:19] Sandro Maculan: grush too
[20.01.2013 04:12:21] Erik: yes
[20.01.2013 04:12:25] Erik: grush is horrible
[20.01.2013 04:12:31] Sandro Maculan: i played last game with yamato
[20.01.2013 04:12:33] Erik: there's a bunch of people being horrible
[20.01.2013 04:12:44] Sandro Maculan: i think i would be able to tell if he is town
[20.01.2013 04:13:04] Erik: i played with debears 2 games ago, he was SK and claimed SK in the thread telling town he's willing to help them if they don't lynch him
[20.01.2013 04:13:16] Sandro Maculan: pretty good
[20.01.2013 04:13:25] Sandro Maculan: no need to read him then
[20.01.2013 04:13:27] Sandro Maculan: he will just claim
[20.01.2013 04:13:36] Erik: ^^
[20.01.2013 04:13:56] Erik: he was kind of forced to do it to be honest but nevertheless
[20.01.2013 04:13:58] Erik: it was odd
[20.01.2013 04:14:21] Sandro Maculan: 5 mafia
[20.01.2013 04:14:26] Sandro Maculan: is kind of a lot
[20.01.2013 04:14:30] Sandro Maculan: for 22 players
[20.01.2013 04:14:53] Sandro Maculan: mafia prb has just a few powers
[20.01.2013 04:14:55] Sandro Maculan: prob no jack
[20.01.2013 04:15:00] Erik: gonzaw and clarity screwed an already mathematically won game I played 3 games ago when I was mafia saying "well town and 3rd party can't win anymore, so let's lynch the jester so toad doesn't win"
[20.01.2013 04:15:01] Sandro Maculan: and prob a town jack
[20.01.2013 04:16:12] Erik: so those 2 are rather bad as well imo, because it wasn't literally that, but just them saying I'm the jester despite me claiming mafia in the thread with full night action claim and they weren't able to figure it out
[20.01.2013 04:16:43] Erik: oh gonzaw posted, let's read
[20.01.2013 04:18:28] Erik: not much he posted but he's running
[20.01.2013 04:36:20] Erik: well I'm going to bed, 4 am over here, see you
[20.01.2013 04:36:34] Sandro Maculan: gn man
[20.01.2013 21:35:01] Erik: you here?
[20.01.2013 23:37:29] Erik: one of the smurfs just claimed wbg
[21.01.2013 02:06:24] Sandro Maculan: hey
[21.01.2013 02:06:34] Sandro Maculan: just got back
[21.01.2013 02:06:45] Erik: this one guy is really wbg
[21.01.2013 02:06:52] Erik: and he wants to become sheriff
[21.01.2013 02:07:00] Erik: I don't like him ;(
[21.01.2013 02:07:15] Sandro Maculan: i have to catch up
[21.01.2013 02:08:18] Sandro Maculan: wtf is oats talking about
[21.01.2013 02:08:29] Erik: ?
[21.01.2013 02:08:36] Sandro Maculan: quick bandwagoning
[21.01.2013 02:08:59] Sandro Maculan: only vivax showed support for my jiexian acusation
[21.01.2013 02:09:12] Sandro Maculan: then oats comes in with a nonsensical defense
[21.01.2013 02:09:39] Erik: i don't even know what page your on 8(
[21.01.2013 02:09:42] Erik: let me check
[21.01.2013 02:09:51] Sandro Maculan: 17
[21.01.2013 02:10:43] Erik: yeah idk
[21.01.2013 02:11:03] Erik: he has a point though
[21.01.2013 02:11:04] Sandro Maculan: actually what happened
[21.01.2013 02:11:11] Sandro Maculan: is that several people ignored it
[21.01.2013 02:11:24] Erik: saying to lynch jieXian off of 2 posts is retarded and the easiest way to go for mafia
[21.01.2013 02:11:29] Sandro Maculan: and then vivax, the towniest mofo so far came in and dug it up
[21.01.2013 02:11:39] Sandro Maculan: what?
[21.01.2013 02:11:57] Sandro Maculan: 1 post is enough to pin someone
[21.01.2013 02:12:09] Sandro Maculan: mafia dont give themselves away in every post
[21.01.2013 02:12:11] Erik: not with these new guys 8(
[21.01.2013 02:12:24] Sandro Maculan: anyway
[21.01.2013 02:12:38] Sandro Maculan: there wasnt much to go on at that time
[21.01.2013 02:12:55] Sandro Maculan: but judging by the reactions i would say he is likely mafia
[21.01.2013 02:13:57] Erik: his filter does look fishy
[21.01.2013 02:14:17] Erik: he seems to be asking a lot of questions that are somewhat pointless and those that are not aren't backed up by anything
[21.01.2013 02:14:27] Erik: so it does look like he's just trying to blend in
[21.01.2013 02:14:56] Sandro Maculan: my question is
[21.01.2013 02:14:57] Erik: but again, I'm really bad when it comes to those new guys.. I usually want people lynched I played before with
[21.01.2013 02:15:08] Sandro Maculan: why are retards defending him before he even responds
[21.01.2013 02:15:22] Erik: yeah that makes no sense
[21.01.2013 02:15:34] Sandro Maculan: that annul post
[21.01.2013 02:15:39] Erik: but it seems to be the current trent in newbie games
[21.01.2013 02:18:44] Sandro Maculan: isnt xian talking about the jester thing about the previous game?
[21.01.2013 02:18:54] Erik: yeah
[21.01.2013 02:19:07] Erik: he was the medic who buddied with me that game
[21.01.2013 02:19:17] Erik: and I had to betray him
[21.01.2013 02:19:35] Sandro Maculan: look at this post by austin
[21.01.2013 02:19:45] Sandro Maculan: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=393344&currentpage=18#360
[21.01.2013 02:22:48] Erik: "I often find him scummy when he's town."
[21.01.2013 02:22:54] Erik: that's odd
[21.01.2013 02:23:02] Erik: and him going on about JX is as well
[21.01.2013 02:23:07] Sandro Maculan: the reasons he thinks the post looks town
[21.01.2013 02:23:17] Erik: but I actually have him down as town
[21.01.2013 02:23:18] Sandro Maculan: look forced imo
[21.01.2013 02:24:20] Erik: did he think JX thinks I am jester in this game?
[21.01.2013 02:24:50] Sandro Maculan: yes
[21.01.2013 02:27:18] Sandro Maculan: is gonzaw good
[21.01.2013 02:27:32] Erik: he can be good
[21.01.2013 02:27:37] Erik: he can be really bad
[21.01.2013 02:27:47] Erik: he is one of the most stubborn people on TL
[21.01.2013 02:27:58] Erik: and he's kind of like TL's boxxy
[21.01.2013 02:28:19] Sandro Maculan: he wont lynch whoever i tell him to prob
[21.01.2013 02:29:30] Erik: I still don't think austin is likely mafia at all, although that one big post looks odd
[21.01.2013 02:29:36] Sandro Maculan: meh
[21.01.2013 02:29:36] Erik: I just don't see him posting this:http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=393344&currentpage=13#258
[21.01.2013 02:29:38] Erik: as mafia
[21.01.2013 02:29:42] Erik: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=393344&currentpage=13#258
[21.01.2013 02:29:56] Sandro Maculan: he thinks me and vivax are "scummy"
[21.01.2013 02:30:10] Sandro Maculan: vivax is ultra town
[21.01.2013 02:30:13] Erik: people are way too lazy to look at stuff like that as mafia
[21.01.2013 02:30:15] Erik: yeah he is
[21.01.2013 02:30:21] Sandro Maculan: i'm kinda scummy i guess
[21.01.2013 02:30:43] Erik: yamato is tricky right now
[21.01.2013 02:30:51] Erik: he has those posts that look really townish
[21.01.2013 02:30:56] Erik: but I'm scared about being wrong on that one
[21.01.2013 02:31:00] Sandro Maculan: yamato has way less posts than his previous games
[21.01.2013 02:31:17] Sandro Maculan: at least so far
[21.01.2013 02:33:53] Sandro Maculan: i think oats is more likely to flip scum than jx
[21.01.2013 02:34:25] Sandro Maculan: it felt really weird when he called me out
[21.01.2013 02:34:27] Erik: i wouldn't mind lynching bugs to be honest
[21.01.2013 02:34:41] Sandro Maculan: then i responded and he didnt post anything back
[21.01.2013 02:35:08] Sandro Maculan: ?
[21.01.2013 02:35:19] Sandro Maculan: so far i havent seen anything danming
[21.01.2013 02:36:12] Erik: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=393344&currentpage=22#429
[21.01.2013 02:36:28] Erik: bugs buddying usually means mafia bugs
[21.01.2013 02:36:55] Erik: on top of that he's indirectly asking to be voted into sheriff's position...
[21.01.2013 02:37:27] Sandro Maculan: that's not alignment indicative
[21.01.2013 02:37:37] Sandro Maculan: both mafia and town want the pos
[21.01.2013 02:37:51] Sandro Maculan: and bugs knows he has bad reads as town d1 i guess
[21.01.2013 02:38:05] Erik: hope so 8(
[21.01.2013 02:38:34] Sandro Maculan: and actually the people he calls out on that post are pretty shaddy
[21.01.2013 02:38:42] Sandro Maculan: so i'm ok with him so far
[21.01.2013 02:40:34] Erik: http://www.wordsmith.org/animatedgifs/anim-DearestSnot_Toadesstern-Cu4G.gif
[21.01.2013 02:40:36] Erik: LOL
[21.01.2013 02:40:37] Erik:
[21.01.2013 02:40:52] Sandro Maculan: i dont like djo aswell
[21.01.2013 02:41:11] Sandro Maculan: rofl
[21.01.2013 02:41:53] Erik: I wouldn't mind making vivax sheriff
[21.01.2013 02:41:57] Erik: not sure who to make mayor yet though
[21.01.2013 02:42:25] Sandro Maculan: vivax mayor
[21.01.2013 02:42:28] Sandro Maculan: you sheriff
[21.01.2013 02:42:36] Sandro Maculan: or the contrary
[21.01.2013 02:42:42] Erik: I really don't want vivax to be mayor
[21.01.2013 02:42:54] Erik: and I don't think people want me to be mayor or sheriff
[21.01.2013 02:42:59] Erik: due to massive paranoia
[21.01.2013 02:43:09] Sandro Maculan: meh
[21.01.2013 02:43:15] Sandro Maculan: you masoned me first thing
[21.01.2013 02:43:23] Sandro Maculan: i dont think you would do that as mafia
[21.01.2013 02:43:52] Sandro Maculan: why is vivax being mayor a problem?
[21.01.2013 02:44:34] Erik: I don't trust his reads
[21.01.2013 02:44:39] Erik: he's kind of an idiot [note: in a very charming way :3 Didn't mean to insult it's just because you headbanging with yamato like little kids...]
[21.01.2013 02:45:30] Sandro Maculan: prpl's post in page 22 looks kinda townish
[21.01.2013 02:45:34] Sandro Maculan: what do you think
[21.01.2013 02:46:01] Sandro Maculan: 23
[21.01.2013 02:46:10] Erik: yeah nothing on 22^^
[21.01.2013 02:46:22] Sandro Maculan: sorry i forgot i clicked next =P
[21.01.2013 02:47:13] Erik: well looks like he's not scared
[21.01.2013 02:47:26] Erik: " and the scum reads i have are pretty i'm not sure about them at all."
[21.01.2013 02:47:32] Sandro Maculan: five touch reads like foolishness tbh
[21.01.2013 02:47:39] Erik: someone said GM
[21.01.2013 02:47:46] Sandro Maculan: nah
[21.01.2013 02:47:48] Erik: but no idea if it's true
[21.01.2013 02:47:56] Sandro Maculan: posting style looks like foolishness
[21.01.2013 03:00:16] Erik: why isn't annul posting at all
[21.01.2013 03:04:49] Sandro Maculan: no clue
[21.01.2013 03:04:56] Sandro Maculan: his omgus commentary was terrible
[21.01.2013 03:05:02] Erik: yeah
[21.01.2013 03:05:35] Sandro Maculan: do you remember this game i'm talking about?
[21.01.2013 03:05:46] Erik: which game?
[21.01.2013 03:05:55] Sandro Maculan: last posts
[21.01.2013 03:06:02] Sandro Maculan: a game which prpl rolled town
[21.01.2013 03:06:05] Sandro Maculan: did terrible
[21.01.2013 03:06:10] Sandro Maculan: subbed out or something
[21.01.2013 03:06:49] Erik: I don't I remember anything like that
[21.01.2013 03:07:13] Erik: I do remember games with him being terrible as town though^^
[21.01.2013 03:07:44] Erik: like the one palmar hosted when I was 3rd party and controlling town and to be frank it reads a lot like that game
[21.01.2013 03:07:49] Erik: prplhz that is
[21.01.2013 03:54:55] Sandro Maculan: ima hit the sack
[21.01.2013 03:54:58] Sandro Maculan: gn man
[21.01.2013 03:55:28] Erik: n8
[21.01.2013 19:22:12] Sandro Maculan: yo
[21.01.2013 19:22:24] Sandro Maculan: what do you think about mkfuba
[21.01.2013 19:22:30] Erik: am back
[21.01.2013 19:22:47] Erik: I got him down as "no idea" right now
[21.01.2013 19:23:08] Erik: annul is making me the biggest trouble right now to be honest
[21.01.2013 19:23:23] Sandro Maculan: i normally think annul is scum d1
[21.01.2013 19:23:30] Sandro Maculan: and then d2 i can tell
[21.01.2013 19:23:43] Sandro Maculan: but he is being dumb yes
[21.01.2013 19:24:31] Sandro Maculan: jx never came back after the heat faded
[21.01.2013 19:24:41] Erik: yeah
[21.01.2013 19:26:50] Erik: that basicly what I'm at:
[21.01.2013 19:26:50] Erik: *HERE BE LINK*
[21.01.2013 19:26:54] Erik: green = leaning town
[21.01.2013 19:27:00] Erik: yellow = leaning mafia
[21.01.2013 19:27:04] Erik: white = now idea
[21.01.2013 19:38:03] Erik: someone you disagree about?
[21.01.2013 19:45:19] Sandro Maculan: it's kinda weird you have too much green
[21.01.2013 19:45:31] Sandro Maculan: you normally dont do so much green this warly
[21.01.2013 19:45:40] Sandro Maculan: but i agree
[21.01.2013 19:45:45] Erik: as in you = me
[21.01.2013 19:45:48] Erik: or you = people
[21.01.2013 19:46:03] Sandro Maculan: you = you =P
[21.01.2013 19:46:10] Sandro Maculan: i was hydra with you want
[21.01.2013 19:46:23] Sandro Maculan: and i read a game which you posted one recently
[21.01.2013 19:46:37] Erik: yeah I just had 3 horrible games in a row
[21.01.2013 19:46:46] Sandro Maculan: sorry for the long wait i went out to buy a cigarret =P
[21.01.2013 19:46:47] Erik: none of those I'm particularry proud of
[21.01.2013 19:47:06] Sandro Maculan: want = once
[21.01.2013 19:47:08] Sandro Maculan: rofl
[21.01.2013 19:47:15] Erik: I'm still very certain about my townreads but the mafiareads are kind of shaky right now
[21.01.2013 19:47:22] Erik: so I'm trying to keep them down a bit^^
[21.01.2013 19:47:38] Sandro Maculan: why do you think i'm town
[21.01.2013 19:47:43] Sandro Maculan: people seem to be unsure
[21.01.2013 19:47:59] Sandro Maculan: and i agree i'm not the shinning beacon of towness this game
[21.01.2013 19:48:01] Erik: you're actually one of the guys I'm more uncertain about
[21.01.2013 19:48:19] Erik: but you being mafia would mean I've got to be wrong about the majority of my townreads
[21.01.2013 19:48:22] Erik: which just doesn't make sense right now
[21.01.2013 19:48:46] Erik: and you've been pointing in the right directions. Like when I said wbg was mafia
[21.01.2013 19:48:55] Erik: and you said you don't a see a reason for him to be mafia
[21.01.2013 19:49:15] Erik: was utterly horrible by me and there was no reason to think he's mafia. Don't think you'd post like that as mafia
[21.01.2013 19:51:38] Sandro Maculan: yes prob not
[21.01.2013 19:52:15] Erik: this yamato guy is annoying
[21.01.2013 19:52:15] Sandro Maculan: i think you should color annul white
[21.01.2013 19:52:19] Sandro Maculan: yes
[21.01.2013 19:52:20] Sandro Maculan: a lot
[21.01.2013 19:52:33] Sandro Maculan: and mkfuba red =P
[21.01.2013 19:53:07] Sandro Maculan: axle i have no clue
[21.01.2013 19:53:21] Sandro Maculan: prob should be white too unless you seen his mafia meta
[21.01.2013 19:55:53] Erik: anyways, taking a shower.
[21.01.2013 19:56:45] Sandro Maculan: hmm i'm actually thinking austin right now
[21.01.2013 19:57:01] Sandro Maculan: i see no possibility of him being mafia
[21.01.2013 20:03:36] Erik: and I'm a mason, that's pretty awesome as elected role
[21.01.2013 20:04:23] Sandro Maculan: true, but i stil think it's possible you are mafia =P
[21.01.2013 20:04:32] Erik: wtf 8(
[21.01.2013 20:04:46] Sandro Maculan: i'm getting paranoid at no good people at mafia team =(
[21.01.2013 20:13:26] Sandro Maculan: do you see all these people you have white/yellow on voting for palmar
[21.01.2013 20:13:40] Sandro Maculan: and he is set on lynching prpl
[21.01.2013 20:13:49] Sandro Maculan: i think that makes prpl likely town
[21.01.2013 20:14:40] Erik: it's only 3 people as far as I can see but yeah it's worrisome
[21.01.2013 20:14:47] Erik: or however that is written in english
[21.01.2013 20:14:56] Sandro Maculan: 3 out of 5
[21.01.2013 20:15:02] Erik: yeah it's "worrisome"
[21.01.2013 20:15:03] Erik: yeah
[21.01.2013 20:15:16] Erik: there's just a lot of people not voting right now
[21.01.2013 20:15:19] Sandro Maculan: i dunno either so dont worry =P
[21.01.2013 20:15:25] Erik: it's really hard to judge like that..
[21.01.2013 20:15:43] Sandro Maculan: why would these people vote ft
[21.01.2013 20:15:47] Sandro Maculan: who is unknown
[21.01.2013 20:15:50] Erik: because it could just be a coincidence right now
[21.01.2013 20:15:54] Sandro Maculan: i doubt they can tell he is a smurf of someone good
[21.01.2013 20:16:01] Erik: he's a vet
[21.01.2013 20:16:23] Erik: someone said he's GM in the thread so pretty sure they can
[21.01.2013 20:16:25] Sandro Maculan: that's not obvious to these guys imo
[21.01.2013 20:16:39] Sandro Maculan: these people don't even know how gm plays
[21.01.2013 20:16:43] Erik: and bugs made it pretty obvious as well
[21.01.2013 20:16:48] Sandro Maculan: last time gm played was a long time ago
[21.01.2013 20:17:52] Sandro Maculan: i don't know
[21.01.2013 20:17:57] Sandro Maculan: it looks really weird to me
[21.01.2013 20:20:41] Erik: bugs apparently posted with his smurf in another game he's playing
[21.01.2013 20:20:50] Erik: and had to say that he's bugs or something like that
[21.01.2013 20:21:06] Sandro Maculan: right
[21.01.2013 20:21:10] Erik: didn't see it but someone in the thread said so and I generally believe those stories without checking^^
[21.01.2013 20:21:35] Sandro Maculan: yeah it's pretty safe someone else will check it =P
[21.01.2013 20:22:33] Erik: btw, did you agree on the yellow painting on djodref?
[21.01.2013 20:22:52] Erik: His posts felt really odd when he was "defending" me imo
[21.01.2013 20:23:07] Erik: not sure if you looked into him yet
[21.01.2013 20:23:11] Sandro Maculan: yes
[21.01.2013 20:23:31] Sandro Maculan: he is asking too many questions all the time with no follow up
[21.01.2013 20:25:00] Sandro Maculan: i dont know why you bother with the ymt stuff
[21.01.2013 20:25:10] Sandro Maculan: do you think he is mafia
[21.01.2013 20:25:30] Sandro Maculan: he just seems very omgus oriented
[21.01.2013 20:26:19] Erik: I don't want chez to be sheriff at all
[21.01.2013 20:26:24] Erik: and right now it's chez...
[21.01.2013 20:27:13] Erik: and no, yamato is probably town. I just want his vote somewhere else
[21.01.2013 20:27:19] Sandro Maculan: no chezinu
[21.01.2013 20:27:29] Sandro Maculan: he did vote ft i think
[21.01.2013 20:27:34] Sandro Maculan: after i told him to move it
[21.01.2013 20:27:41] Erik: did he?'
[21.01.2013 20:27:50] Sandro Maculan: yes
[21.01.2013 20:28:19] Erik: not according to the voting thread
[21.01.2013 20:28:33] Sandro Maculan: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=394305&currentpage=2#34
[21.01.2013 20:28:49] Erik: oh you mean yamato
[21.01.2013 20:28:55] Erik: yeah but chez still has 3 votes
[21.01.2013 20:29:03] Erik: which makes him sheriff right now
[21.01.2013 20:29:24] Sandro Maculan: i dont think the 3 people voting for him can be reasoned with
[21.01.2013 20:29:35] Sandro Maculan: so we just have to make 2 people have more than 3
[21.01.2013 20:29:45] Erik: hence my discussion with yamato
[21.01.2013 20:30:03] Sandro Maculan: well ymt is voting ft
[21.01.2013 20:30:14] Erik: yeah that's fine
[21.01.2013 20:30:16] Sandro Maculan: and there is plenty of people to vote still
[21.01.2013 20:43:32] Sandro Maculan: man
[21.01.2013 20:43:50] Sandro Maculan: the more i think about fuba the more certain i am he is mafia
[21.01.2013 21:13:02] Erik: i actually considered ft to be syllo as well^^
[21.01.2013 21:13:30] Sandro Maculan: well i know it's not syllo =P


I think it's safe to post this.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 22 2013 01:54 GMT
#1071
Oh timestamps obviously being german timezone... I think the game started somethig around 2 am my time, just as a general idea for you.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 22 2013 01:57 GMT
#1075
On January 22 2013 10:55 FiveTouch wrote:
Thank you Toad. That does make me feel better about sandroba actually.

duh... told you
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
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