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Toadesstern
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On January 21 2013 11:45 yamato77 wrote: Why is Toad acting like Palmar? I don't like a single thing you are posting this game and you expect me to want to vote for someone you're supporting. What is this stupidity. because I'm in the position to post like that :3 | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
On January 21 2013 11:49 yamato77 wrote: Are you? Because I think a lot of people think you're full of shit right now and aren't so high on Vivax. yeah pretty sure I am | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
On January 21 2013 11:52 Oatsmaster wrote: Why havent you continues to pressure prplhz and annul Toad? Considering they were your top 'mayor' picks at the start of the game. You are posting a lot of shit, do you have any scum reads that you can expand on? Or you only have Vivax the confirmed town not reading my filter are you? I have asked about Annul at least once more, he's not posting, not much I can do about that. I have mentioned my thoughts about prplhz as well. I have mentioned my scumreads to be you, maybe prplhz earlier on although I'm not feeling to good about him lately (as in getting town vibes lately), maybe WBG but people seem to disagree about him. If you actually read my posts you will find them and you will find reasoning. | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
On January 21 2013 11:56 Toadesstern wrote: not reading my filter are you? I have asked about Annul at least once more, he's not posting, not much I can do about that. I have mentioned my thoughts about prplhz as well. I have mentioned my scumreads to be you, maybe prplhz earlier on although I'm not feeling to good about him lately (as in getting town vibes lately), maybe WBG but people seem to disagree about him. If you actually read my posts you will find them and you will find reasoning. EBWOP oh and I mentioned you as well, totally forgot about that. | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
On January 21 2013 12:03 yamato77 wrote: Toad explain to me how you think what you're doing is townie at all. Right now all I see is a bunch of playing foil to me and trying to piss me off. it's not about youl... I mean there's a pretty damn well reason why everyone out of Sandro / WBG / FT and myself as both of Vivax and you down as pretty certain town and it's reassuring to see that all 4 of us came to that conclusion (might answer some of those "why are you suddenly talking about a townread" questions). And so far neither of us has explained it so it's not a problem. So unless you think all 4 of us are mafia there's no reason for you to be concerned right now, unless you're mafia yourself... Same goes for the way I'm posting. There's reasoning behind it and noone of importance has an issue with it for a reason :3 | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
On January 21 2013 12:08 Oatsmaster wrote: Toad Reasoning for lynching me Oats looks like a decent lynch uhuh. Besides that post, you havent mentioned scum at all. you're asking a bunch of questions that are either utterly useless or aren't backed up at all. You have nonsensical posts in your filter defending people when you really shouldn't (the short version): On January 20 2013 21:45 Oatsmaster wrote: I made the response cause quick bandwagoning normally are town, and I was responding to who is in favour of lynching JieXian. Both sides of the case. Wishywashy. but Its early days. At a time when one guy mentioned JX while the complete rest of the thread ignored him. That's not bandwagoning at all, so why the need to defend him out of nowhere instead of checking what HE has to say himself? That's usually the strongest scumtreat there is in games of mafia. | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
On January 21 2013 12:47 Oatsmaster wrote: Clearly you havent read my filter Djo, unless you and I have a different definition of aggressiveness. Toad, You skipped the question by attacking me. Please answer it what question? Was there another one besides "give reason for lynching me" ? because I'm pretty damn sure I answered that one. | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
On January 21 2013 13:03 yamato77 wrote: Djo, Toad, Vivax all lean red. Sandro is close to red for how lazy his scumreads are. Five and WBG are in a similar area to Sand, but WBG looks the towniest of them all so far. I would lynch into any of the first three. because your entire reasoning for saying someone is mafia is "guy disagrees with me, has to be mafia" right? Remember what Keirathi / Marv / Palmar said in the YANMM obs about you? Something along the lines of "never have seen someone being so confident in himself when being oh so wrong every single time". And no your "team" of mafia makes no sense if you try and think about it for a second unless all of WBG, five, Sandro and I are mafia, which is ridiculous to say the least. | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
On January 21 2013 13:10 yamato77 wrote: I'm not going to be wrong forever. You still have yet to explain how I am even wrong. Stop posting bullshit attacks on me and get your shit together or I swear I will get you lynched. the point is that you keep on posting "guy is annoying / disagrees with me therefore he has to be mafia" and people have repeatetly told you so. In every single game, every single read I have ever seen from you and you're doing it again. That's not a mafiatreat. I have yet to see a single reason for lynching anyone you porposed as "mafia" because nothing you mentioned comes even close to being something a mafia is likely to do instead of a townie. You know, like stuff that was mentioned about oats, the fact that he felt like defending someone out of nowhere for no reason, which, as you might have realized as well is something that everyone out of WBG / Sandro / Five / myself has mentioned as something incredibly scummy, except for Annul. Yet you're sitting here telling me Annul is your savior while Sandro / WBG / Five / myself (+Vivax because everyone but you thinks he's town?!?) are all mafia scheming some ridiculious 4 man mafia plan. | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
On January 21 2013 13:21 yamato77 wrote: Yes, Toad, this is totally me just saying Vivax doesn't think like me and is there for scum, you got me. I think I did a pretty good job equating what he's doing with this post to scum motives in posts in my filter, and you brushing it off as him not agreeing with me is retarded and a malicious misrepresentation. You're just trying to make me look bad and get me angry at the same time. Do you honestly think Vivax would be send out by his (supposedly) mafia team for a candacy as mayor? Do you honestly think Vivax would be so carefree as mafia to candidate for mayor and not post for the next *idk* bunch of hours? Don't you think Vivax would have been way to scared to candidate for mayor as mafia? Especially given his recent game as mafia that he, against all odds still won due to massive town modkills. Do you honestly think Vivax would be dropping a vote like that if he has multiple people in irc / QT / whatever to ask on who to vote? With that "reasoning" he provided? Sure it's bullshit, it's one of the most retarded posts I've seen in this game so far but do you really think he'd do that as mafia? Mafias think about what they're posting and while it might happen that they slip it is an incredibly far fetched assumption to believe team mafia would send out someone like vivax, who is a very new player, who isn't particularry known for being good as mafia + Show Spoiler [anecdote] + remember YANMN? He was busted on d2 or something like that and got 2 more spare days because we had debears claiming SK in the thread and modkills that made people think it's better to no-lynch once to get one more cycle in case Vivax SOMEHOW ended up flipping town You've got to be kidding me if you think those are mafiatreats. | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
I really consider it very unlikely to have enough people willing to give me DT-protection (not that I need it but that's what people are afraid of) to make it myself. It might be an incredibly good idea to make me sheriff though... You're not a stupid boy, you know what's going on, right? :p | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
I don't know what that picture means. Would be nice to know wether that "wifom?" was directed at me, directed at annul or just an explanation of the picture because I have no idea what it is. | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
On January 21 2013 14:13 gonzaw wrote: Why did you think Vivax should be mayor/sheriff again? Just because he's likely town? Like I said I'm not that sure of Five being town yet, don't really want to blindly say "yeah dude be mayor and have this dt protection and BGs" yet. If it comes down to it though, I wouldn't complain. If vivax or five are scum it'd be quite a bummer, but right now it seems like it's not the case, and not letting scum get those positions of power is good as well. ...also damn toad you are paranoid as fuck lol. I don't remember a single person in this game saying they aren't willing to give you DT-protection >_> You also know I don't need a DT check to catch you as scum, so don't worry about that  Reasoning for vivax comes down to this: On January 21 2013 10:05 Toadesstern wrote: what do you guys think about making sure some idiot we all know to be town ends up being sheriff? I really don't think we should have people like Bugs, Chez or gonzaw sitting on a sheriff role, being unable to be DT-checked by anyone. Most people feel probably the same way about me, so if you're not having access to my TL-PMs you might want to add me to that list as well. I don't think the sheriff powers are that great, besides having bodyguards. Sure, 3-time Jailer but it's something even a noob should be capable to do. Just tell him to not offensively jail and we're good. That is reasoning for why someone like vivax, not why vivax in particular of course. | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
On January 21 2013 14:10 Toadesstern wrote: I don't know what that picture means. Would be nice to know wether that "wifom?" was directed at me, directed at annul or just an explanation of the picture because I have no idea what it is. would still like to have an explanation on that one. I don't know where that pic is from and that "wifom?" post from grush is weird to say the least, either way lol | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
On January 21 2013 14:38 annul wrote: yes, i am calling your statement wifom. that picture is from the movie "the princess bride;" specifically, the scene where the phrase "wine in front of me" comes from. youtube it. A clever man once told me townies end up saying : "I don't think that's a reasonable assumption at all" Mafias usually say: "That's totally wifom! (although it makes sense it's not confirmed!)" and it's not comming down to him being too stupid to be mafia like yamato said (although I've got to admit that's part of it) but rather his carefree posting and him not being scared at all, like gonzaw mentioned as well. | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
On January 21 2013 14:56 gonzaw wrote: Hey Toad, now that you are here, what do you finally conclude about sandro? I remember you saying you'd need him to post more and appear and stuff. Well I doubt sandro will do much more than what he did already this day, so what do you make of it? The only game I think I remember him not doing "that much" as town or being lazy was Bureaucracy (I think he was there, was he?), although not this extreme. I'm wary of him being scum though, because it doesn't feel like his Liar Game play, although if I suspect he is what he is, then that's irrelevant and null. I'd say he's fine right now. Not anywhere clear at all but he makes sense, he's lazy and he isn't posting an awful lot. No reason to be scared imo. Also I believe his story / reasoning for not wanting to run for mayor right now. | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
On January 21 2013 15:12 annul wrote: a clever man once told me "do not use wifom arguments in mafia games" but alas i am not talking about people "being too stupid" or whatever, i am referring specifically to your comments saying basically "do you really think a mafia would do something like that?" which is literally textbook wifom there is nothing in a game of mafia that is not wifom until you see a flip. Every argument you can and will make comes down to making a call on what is the most likely scenario and about wether your call on that question is reasonable or not. If you think he's mafia fine with me. I don't right now. Not saying he's anywhere like a clear townie either and people should keep an eye on him because it could be he's got a smart mafia on his team (that would be someone like WBG or myself imo :p) telling him to do exactly that but unless that's the case I take my explanation as the more likely scenario. Especially knowing I'm town myself. Especially knowing pretty much everyone besides Yamato and you agrees with me on the matter. | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
On January 21 2013 15:37 debears wrote: I'd be willing to lynch Toad at this point. His posting vibes are way off from his previous town games that I've played with him in last time you tried to lynch me while everyone was disagreeing you got lynched as SK, just saying. | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
On January 21 2013 15:43 debears wrote: Gonzaw Do you honestly believe a town vivax would see himself good enough to be a good mayor? Hell I purposely didn't post a mayoral election because I decided it wouldn't be beneficial for town when there are vets who are much better than me newsflash: it's unreasonable either way. It comes down to wether or not you really think he'd have the balls to do what you're telling me he is doing as mafia, on purpose. | ||
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