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Ok with Austin's reappearance, I am inclined to vote for him as mayor. Why? Because I feel that he has put in more effort into finding scum than 5touch and that he is willing to be transparent and all the things various people have said that the mayor be.
He also stood up to lurky sandro early about JX when he couldve ignored the incident. That is one of the reasons I have a town tell on him. I also agree with his lynch target now that I read his reasoning and Stutter's filter.
Stutter's posted 4 posts and just disappeared, I feel that as a town player, his start wouldve been continued through the thread but it was not to be which makes me think that he is putting up a front of activity at the start to allay all suspicions then lurking his way through the rest of the game.
Vote: Austinmcc
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On January 22 2013 11:02 FiveTouch wrote:
Honestly, prplhz's mafia flip just makes Oats look even worse than before. I could well have been choosing between two mafia in my deliberations.
Oats dismissed the prplhz case for no particular reason, while supporting the Stutters case, despite his general tone of not lynching for lurkers.
It's very hard to see a town Oats right now, with his attitude towards me/austin/stutters/prplhz.
I dismissed the case cause I didnt think that the changes in meta were particularly scummy. Although his random WIFOM vote for you without any explaination probably put the nail in his coffin. I didnt want a mayor lynching a lurker like BroodkingEXE and Clarity. See the difference between them and Stutters?
I attacked you earlier because you wanted to lynch me. I dont see how you being townie means that I am all nice to you when you want to lynch me. Its not a contridication, now it looks like you are making things up in order to discredit me for whatever reason.
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On January 20 2013 22:08 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2013 13:24 grush57 wrote:
Hello everyone.
I am town.
I am running for mayor, FOR STARSENSES!
##Vote: Grush57 @Grush57.. I have a problem, and your the man to fix it. STARSENSES... Why are you unleashing your "famed" town breadcrumb so early. 1 Post in, and going for the trademark. This is scummy as fuck to me.
Why is 'unleashing' his town breadcrumb early scummy? Shouldnt you judge him on his play rather than his 'breadcrumb' timing?
Also, why are you so butthurt that Toad keeps spouting that 'vets' reads are more important? Do you want to feel important? Join a mini then :D
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Useless post Mocsta.
Ok so who would you be willing to lynch at this point?
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Ok well Im thinking that at least one of the 4 mayor candidates yesterday is scum. And I think that the scum is Gonzaw.
+ Show Spoiler +On January 20 2013 15:36 gonzaw wrote:
I sincerely can't understand what Axle is posting :/
I could figure out he questioning Vivax on his campaign initially, and wanted to vote Chezinu, but I have no idea what "I sheep Toad, even if i needed to find all my own reasons" means
I also kind of skimmed/ignored parts of his last post since I didn't understand a thing.
Seemed pretty funny in pre-game...not so much now. Then never mentions Axle again. On January 21 2013 05:43 gonzaw wrote:
I'm not enjoying this "aggressiveness" you are showing Vivax, seems too needlessly provocative.
Although you running for mayor in the first place (while being considered "not-vet" by most of us) doesn't really seem like something you'd do as scum, and maybe this "aggressiveness" stuff just means you are getting over-excited or something.
Meh, certainly not enough to make any call other than leaning slightly town on you (gut feeling) so I'll let that pass.
This reads as,
Scummy, not scummy, meh I dont know.
And then again, never questions Vivax at all.
+ Show Spoiler +On January 21 2013 05:48 gonzaw wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2013 18:32 sandroba wrote:
What questions are those? About not wanting to run? I don't have a satisfatory answer, I simply decided this pre game and has nothing to do with alignment. Well.........*sigh* I kind of feel this is "obvious scum sandroba", but obviously until he actually has the time to do something useful to town we can't do much about it :/ What kind of makes me "mad" about the "obvious scum vets" in games, is how people always let them be. Like, this happened with scum Foolishness in like 2 consecutive games where he lived until D5 or something. Either people ignore them, or say "meh, he could be town and thus could be an asset". These kind of people are so "obvious" scum (in a matter of speaking of course) when they roll scum and nobody does anything about it :/ I'd said sandro is one of those (maybe Palmar as well, although slightly less), based on the games I've obsed with him being scum (and Liar Game of course, where he lived...wait for it...until D5). I get the "if he's actually town he can be an asset" idea many people have.....but if he's just screaming scum at your face you can't try bullshitting your way out of that.
Mentions Sandro and that he might be scum and AGAIN doesnt pressure him or nothing, not like you would do with your scum reads.
+ Show Spoiler +On January 21 2013 05:51 gonzaw wrote:
Hmm, it seems funny to me that SO many people "voted" in this thread, yet there are like only 3 votes in the voting thread :/
This applies to Clarity, JieXian and others who put "##Vote: xxx" in here.
Is it that hard to find the Voting thread in the main page?
Random post that doesnt help anyone and is fluff but he phrases it like it is alignment indicative whether people vote in the Voting thread. Throwing suspicion subtly.
+ Show Spoiler +On January 21 2013 13:52 gonzaw wrote:
Djoref, what do you think of Stutters? I didn't really notice you mentioning him that much.
Also, do you think Clarity has more chances of flipping scum than Oats or Stutters or maybe even sandro, etc? On January 21 2013 14:03 gonzaw wrote:
EBWOP:
Oh well nevermind.
Speaking of which Mocsta, what do you think of Stutters and Clarity? I don't remember you mentioning them in your filter.
Testing the waters on whether he should push a stutters or clarity lynch.
+ Show Spoiler +On January 22 2013 10:12 gonzaw wrote:
Oh shit lol
I stand corrected.
Doesnt post about what the prp flip means to the reads that he has on the mayor and the people who pushed his lynch. Also, seems weird for a townie post.
Therefore, out of the runners, I think that GONZAW is scum.
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Mocsta
On January 21 2013 22:21 Oatsmaster wrote:
Ok on to FiveTouch,
He is leaking town through his pores, but I dont want to vote for him because day 1 lynch will be a mislynch. Me. However, if he changes his target, I would think about voting for him based on his reads.
Apparently you stopped reading after you found something that substantiated your point about me thinking that prp would be a mislynch. Must be an honest mistake and not you trying to misquote me right?
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Debears, what changed between your pretty good town game in Newbie XXX and this shit that you are currently posting?
+ Show Spoiler +On January 22 2013 15:46 debears wrote:
All you people can't you see, can't you see
How your love's affecting our reality
Every time we're down
You can make it right
And that makes you larger than life
Did you roll scum? Or just decide that you didnt care about playing well and dick around?
Seriously disappointing.
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On January 22 2013 15:07 Mocsta wrote:
Now THATS the vet type insight im looking for, even though its elementary for you guys.
Noted; I have said my piece to the vigis out there and will move on.
Tell me how this posts helps town, come on Tell me.
Toad.
This is all that you posted about wanting to lynch me
On January 21 2013 11:18 Toadesstern wrote:
Oats looks like a decent lynch.
On January 21 2013 12:15 Toadesstern wrote:
you're asking a bunch of questions that are either utterly useless or aren't backed up at all.
You have nonsensical posts in your filter defending people when you really shouldn't (the short version):
At a time when one guy mentioned JX while the complete rest of the thread ignored him. That's not bandwagoning at all, so why the need to defend him out of nowhere instead of checking what HE has to say himself?
That's usually the strongest scumtreat there is in games of mafia.
I didnt defend him for not being scum, I defended him from stupid bandwagons.
On January 22 2013 11:10 Toadesstern wrote:
There's better targets we should look into right now. Namely oats
Why? I dont know, he didnt say.
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Mocsta. L2R.
[b]
Must be an honest mistake and not you trying to misquote me right?
[b]
Going on to the might be scum read due to the fact that you dont want to admit your mistake.
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Mocsta, last time I am mentioning this, its fucking stupid.
Oatsmaster
Ok on to FiveTouch,
He is leaking town through his pores, but I dont want to vote for him because day 1 lynch will be a mislynch. Me. However, if he changes his target, I would think about voting for him based on his reads.
I am saying that his mislynch WOULD BE ME, cause thats who he said he was gonna lynch at that time.
I have no idea how you twisted it into prp would be a mislynch.
Read the quotes properly next time so you dont accuse someone on a made-up argument based on misreading a quote.
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Toad, just to make it easier to read, do you mean
Character Treats where treats mean
An event or item that is out of the ordinary and gives great pleasure.
or Character Traits where traits mean
A distinguishing quality or characteristic, typically one belonging to a person.
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Hey guys, are you just ignoring my Gonzaw case? Because?
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I see, you are gonna take the wait and see approach.
When is the cycle ending?
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Why do you think that 5touch is Palmer, when he said that he wasnt palmer? Has that influenced your read on 5touch?
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Yamato I am throughly confused why you posted that. Are you asking the people that know grush wether its in line with his meta? Or outing him cause you are pissed off cause he used his 'masonary' and didnt use it properly.
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Sounds like you might block a vig hit or something :O
Apparently that happened in another game where JK jailed scum and blocked a vig hit on him.
Just play simple Toad....
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Well 5touch, I asked the question to gauge Toads reaction, nothing to do with my read on you, I already said I think you are town.
Im really confused about Vivax case, he rambles a lot and doesnt conclude at all, doesnt tell a story on how JX is scum, just links a few posts and summary. Seems like basically his case rests on the fact that JX isnt following up.
Which after reading his filter, I dont agree with. I think that JX is town.
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Prp was town in my view because:
I liked this question
@Vivax Why are you running for mayor? All you say is "I might do this, I might do that, I don't like scum, vote for me." and it seems like you don't know why you are running for mayor either. Why would we put you into office over these vets that you're not going to lynch because of how valuable they are to town?
It seemed to me that no one was picking up on Vivax and the fact that his town campaign was pretty fluffy, including me. I didnt think that scum prp would do that because it focuses the attention on you and causes your actions to be more scrutinized especially since people were rolling with Vivax until his disappearence IIRC.
In general, his posting was light-hearted and seemed carefree, when scum would probably try to be a bit more cautious with their posting.
His lynch Chezinu post was also pretty townie in the sense that he had nothing to back it up and would obviously be called out for it, and was just throwing it out there, seemingly to obtain reactions.
Stutters was scum because:
My d1 reads are almost always wrong, so I'm not nearly as active.
This post seems scummy to me because its not a reason not to be active. Day 1 reactions are good because its a time where you can see who is proactive and who isnt.
Toads style feels much more like my own and I think that will help us analyze why he would do whatever he does after becoming mayor.
I also see this as subtly buddying Toad, same style = same alignment? Especially since its wrong in the sense that Toad outrightly spammed day 1 and stutters stood back and answered questions and defended himself.
His whole filter just generally seems like he is on the back foot, reacting to stuff, rather than creating content and trying to find scum.
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How would you explain that JX is scum in a few sentences Vivax?
Djo
So Vivax is town, but wouldn't be a good mayor because he has bad reads, not because he is scum, as JieXian should believe.
You said this,
JX said this
we love having him lynch townies with his bad reads. Which was why I'm not voting for Vivax mayor.
Seems like JX isnt voting Vivax mayor because he has bad reads. Which means your point is invaild. Unless I misunderstand you?
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Well, I have to believe you on that 5touch, I just filter read him when questions came up and thought that it was pretty townie.
However, I didnt take him seriously as a candidate for lynch in the beginning because you were pushing me, with prp mainly as an afterthought.
With prome getting mislynched in Dessert, and he didnt try to save his skin by pushing just anyone that isnt himself, I thought that it was good play. So I didnt want to just try and convince you to vote prp instead of me because I thought he was town.
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