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Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 26 2013 14:19 GMT
#2821
yes we should. The game is 99% figured out unless both BKE + Chez SOMEHOW flip green...
Noone's playing anymore
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Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 26 2013 14:31 GMT
#2824
On January 26 2013 23:24 Vivax wrote:
Cool, then start finding scum and giving your opinion about today's lynches instead of making snarly comments about me please.

I already found all the mafias there are in this game on d2. But I can include some townies if you want me to.
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Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 26 2013 18:23 GMT
#2843
On January 27 2013 01:55 yamato77 wrote:
Debears, Adam, Vivax, Austin all not confirmed to me.

Oats/Axle might be mafia but I doubt it.

yeah I'd add you to the "not confirmed" list as well. There's really no reason to think Vivax is mafia but he might be playing the game of his life and if he's mafia that would explain some things but it would also mean he's incredibly good at what he's doing.

Oats and Axle are both confirmed town.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 26 2013 18:25 GMT
#2844
On January 27 2013 03:23 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2013 01:55 yamato77 wrote:
Debears, Adam, Vivax, Austin all not confirmed to me.

Oats/Axle might be mafia but I doubt it.

yeah I'd add you to the "not confirmed" list as well. There's really no reason to think Vivax is mafia but he might be playing the game of his life and if he's mafia that would explain some things but it would also mean he's incredibly good at what he's doing.

Oats and Axle are both confirmed town.

that being said I still have townreads on those 6 people (debears, adam, vivax, austin, yamato and mocsta) but they're the way to go if something flips green this cycle.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 26 2013 19:05 GMT
#2847
On January 27 2013 03:51 mkfuba07 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2013 02:59 Stutters695 wrote:
You're right, I was thinking of BKE I believe. Seeing your most recent thing about checking filters made me think of it. But yours isn't much better. What original reads have you done? Why should we believe you're town when you've asked a question or two, not followed it up or just sheeped a vets reads all game. I have a really similar meta to you so I understand when you can't play for a while the goal is living so you can help later, but I don't see an eagerness to help. I'm seeing all of the survival traits without any sort of care for how the town does and that concerns me because it's almost exactly how I would play scum for my first time.

As for your questions, I'm not sold in them being town but I do agree that the odds are incredibly likely that the scum are out of you four (I have a slight town read on mocsta because his play feels different from newbie xxxv but since the circumstances are so different I can't say he's outright town h.
I see most of those reasons as valid. The first half of the game, I was kind of stymied by an "if you're right, you're right" situation. I found FT's reads incredibly compelling. I couldn't find anything I could add. I can't explain why I didn't really have any reads of my own. Things just didn't come together in my head.

In any case, I'm working on correcting my play this game (and hopefully my play for games to come). Something happened yesterday afternoon that seems to have alleviated much of my anxiety while playing mafia, so don't be surprised to see me change playstyles completely. I'm gonna plan on not writing any more defense posts until I've got someone to replace myself with on toad's list. At the moment I'm reading axle's filter to confirm his towniness for myself.

@toad: do you have any responses to my questions? If any of it is some kind of extra information read based on masoning, then there's no need to explain it to me I guess. Just know that I'll be trying to go through almost everyone's filters today (D3), and if there's some undeniable proof that you could share it would save me, potentially, a great amount of time. I suppose I'll just ask to be very explicit. Oats and Axle are both 100%, undeniably, town?


Sorry no time right now, have to leave

Anyways I wouldn't say 100% sure, I'd say at least 90% sure though.

There's a fair chance (as in a chance that isn't 0%) I'm wrong on them but I can confirm that easily myself, I just need some time and I can explain it the next cycle, so give me that time and ignore them for today. It's just wasted time as even if one of BKE / Chez is town other people are more likely mafia.
And no, has nothing to do with mason powers or knowledge.

See you. Might be back online around 01:00 am my time for an hour or something like that.
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Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 27 2013 01:41 GMT
#2924
okay that explains a lot. Thx.

That also means BKE is 100% confirmed mafia.
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Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 27 2013 01:48 GMT
#2927
I kind of want to know what ta stands for though
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Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 27 2013 01:54 GMT
#2928
On January 27 2013 07:49 Vivax wrote:
I don't think medic gets confirmation if the target dies.

But yeah, I just realized I made a mistake in thinking, forget what I just posted about medic not claiming if he targeted Bugs.

If the medic targeted Bugs we know for sure that BKE is town, actually.

Toad looked SO sure that Bugs hadn't been targeted though.

medic usually gets confirmation if they saved their target from 1 hit, even if they ended up dying.
So yeah if there's a medic who protected bugs from 1 KP and he still ended up dead the medic should claim.

I don't think it happened though.
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Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 27 2013 01:56 GMT
#2929
gawd I really just don't understand your posts...
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Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 27 2013 01:57 GMT
#2931
On January 27 2013 10:56 Toadesstern wrote:
gawd I really just don't understand your posts...

that was directed at axle.

Sorry for the quadruple post but I really needed to clear this one up...
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Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 27 2013 02:31 GMT
#2948
I have another mason who apparently masoned me a couple of hours ago. Not gonna tell you though :p
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Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 27 2013 11:24 GMT
#2978
On January 27 2013 18:09 annul wrote:
AND HEY TOWN: please stop voting chez today. there is literally no reason whatsoever to vote him today. none. save my bomb and pile onto him on a future day if we absolutely whiff today. an active hatter is much more important to have in a potential late game scenario.

your bomb just won't trigger no matter what if you're telling the truth.

Mafia is not going to shoot you and we're not going to lynch you. Have fun being a VT.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 27 2013 11:37 GMT
#2981
On January 27 2013 20:26 Chezinu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2013 20:24 Toadesstern wrote:
On January 27 2013 18:09 annul wrote:
AND HEY TOWN: please stop voting chez today. there is literally no reason whatsoever to vote him today. none. save my bomb and pile onto him on a future day if we absolutely whiff today. an active hatter is much more important to have in a potential late game scenario.

your bomb just won't trigger no matter what if you're telling the truth.

Mafia is not going to shoot you and we're not going to lynch you. Have fun being a VT.

Hello Toad!

How's it going?

good good, how're you?
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 27 2013 14:56 GMT
#3014
okay vivax you said we need to lynch the guy you have a red check on. You haven't said who it is, so I assume it is the guy you're voting. You're voting Yamato. You just said you wouldn't even check yamato after telling people you'd do so.

Something's wrong there. If you have a red check be clear about it and stop blabbering around.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 27 2013 16:11 GMT
#3050
I'm going to get myself something from McDonalds. Do they still have those chili sauces?
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 27 2013 16:12 GMT
#3053
On January 28 2013 01:11 annul wrote:
wait so i am confused

vivax checked mocsta? that is his red check?

i am going to sleep VERY soon so like is this the vote? BKE and moc?

no he checked bugs...
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 27 2013 16:14 GMT
#3056
On January 28 2013 01:12 debears wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2013 01:11 annul wrote:
wait so i am confused

vivax checked mocsta? that is his red check?

i am going to sleep VERY soon so like is this the vote? BKE and moc?


Vivax checked Bugs.

Fantastic

That's like him checking me or oats

actually him checking you or oats would be that bad. You're very likely town but you're not confirmed either.

I'd definitly say dt's should check townies that are almost confirmed but not really 100% confirmed if at least one of the guys flips red tonight.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 27 2013 16:16 GMT
#3058
On January 28 2013 01:15 annul wrote:
well fuck, i still think you should not vote chezinu. there is LITERALLY only a potential neg negative about a chez lynch today. mafia do not get any extra KP for his survival today.

lynching mafia is something I'd consider positive.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 27 2013 16:20 GMT
#3064
On January 28 2013 01:17 annul wrote:
we have like 7 cycles to do things with. no need to waste a blue power.

On January 28 2013 01:17 annul wrote:
you can lynch him at any point in the future

right now mafia has 2 KP because there's 3 mafias alive. I'm PRETTY DAMN SURE both of BKE and Chez are mafia but this way worst case scenario is only one flips mafia (imo) which still reduces mafia KP to 1, permanently.

So if we really screw up the lynch on Chez + BKE is better because a screw up is still decent while changing to a weaker target and hitting double town would be awful and indredibly unlucky but we already know we don't have luck this game at all...
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 27 2013 16:32 GMT
#3071
On January 28 2013 01:30 annul wrote:
no, i just have no idea what you are asking me. we have a full cycle to talk, not just today. i figure today is done since i cant convince people off of chez. we know more at the flip i guess.

there's no no reason to play risky right now. Just get this game home safe please and lynch Chez :3
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