Dessert Mini Mafia

On January 13 2013 06:00 wherebugsgo wrote:
/in

Sadly I cannot eat anything that is listed in the op for another few days at least

On January 13 2013 06:53 Promethelax wrote:
Kush, do you plan on playing for real this game or just sleeping scum the whole time and blaming others for your loss? Because if it is the latter this is the last game I'll play with you.

On January 13 2013 06:56 Promethelax wrote:
I don't like policy lynching useless but readable trolls. Town can never afford it.I just also don't like playing with them.

On January 13 2013 07:11 MrZentor wrote:
/in

On January 13 2013 07:43 thrawn2112 wrote:
i can confirm that you have played with at least 1 of the people on that list

On January 13 2013 08:49 kushm4sta wrote:
Wow I was going to try hard this game but then prome said what he said now I have to play like shit just to spite him.
~~~

Define full retard.
I will not play illegally that is all I can promise.

On January 13 2013 09:02 supersoft wrote:


are you town?

On January 13 2013 07:16 MrZentor wrote:
Btw, I might be changing my playstyle a bit.

So don't lynch me instantly. :p

On January 13 2013 09:07 supersoft wrote:


Why do you post this smilie? what was your intention behind it. Do you think it's funny? I want you to say:
I am town.

On January 13 2013 09:09 kushm4sta wrote:
Jay I'm curious, what is scummy about my entrace?

On January 13 2013 09:19 MrZentor wrote:
It wasn't even a smile...

On January 13 2013 09:21 supersoft wrote:


Well last game i was scum and at the very beginning of the game i was kind of scared to start posting... Somehow i thought they know lol. Just a feeling you know?
So what do you think of thrawn... Do you see any anxiety in his first posts?

On January 13 2013 09:28 supersoft wrote:


Okay announcement:
Don't talk about pointless SHIT!!!
scum loves to talk about pointless stuff. Do when the game is over. Right now we're playing the game and we're not in some kind of off-topic thread!

FOCUS!!!
Don't let this game end in a mess like the Kurumi game!

On January 13 2013 09:40 MrZentor wrote:


I can read Jay well.

We're cousins.

On January 13 2013 09:27 Xatalos wrote:
That smilie doesn't really mean anything, but rather look at jay's post before it.



That's just too aggressive for my taste. Did anyone else react like that to Kushm4sta's (trollish) posting? Why would it be scummy to draw attention without any need?

On January 13 2013 10:01 Hapahauli wrote:
@ Jay

Please answer my question. Why are you pushing Kush out of one side of your mouth, then proposing a Sloosh RNG lynch out of the other? It reads a lot like you don't give a shit about who dies.

On January 13 2013 10:30 grush57 wrote:
in all my posts, to make it difficult to quote me.

On January 13 2013 11:04 Hapahauli wrote:


Fair enough. Though at this stage of the game, discussion seems to be going well enough to not have to resort to a random-lynch or other discussion-generating plays. There are several interesting things to discuss right now. In particular, I'm interested in hearing your thoughts on Hopeless, as well as the pressure on Grush at the moment.

On January 13 2013 11:15 MrZentor wrote:


What? You switched from referring to Jay as "he" to "you"?

He seems a bit more confident this game than last.

On January 13 2013 12:00 supersoft wrote:


i don't buy it. You're scum.



worst read ever.

I'll vote Zentor though.

On January 13 2013 12:31 supersoft wrote:


lol. teach me how to play this game. please.

On January 13 2013 13:25 MrZentor wrote:


Those two townie lynches were definitely Hapa's fault....

On January 13 2013 14:12 Xatalos wrote:
Well... I can actually relate to that kind of thinking. I was under heavy suspicion last game for switching my reads based on others' opinions. It's still scummy though, but on the other hand, it's a blatantly scummy thing to do that actual scum wouldn't do (at least so clearly). Conclusion? Tentatively town, purely based on you doing too many anti-town/scummy things for it to make any sense as scum. It sounds stupid, yeah, but it's actually logical. Playing like that makes you get heavy pressure and you end up most likely claiming scum at some point unless you're an amazing player.

(It's pronounced Ksatalos btw, lol)

On January 13 2013 14:28 Xatalos wrote:
Actually (@Jay) you haven't done anything meaningful after accusing Kushm4sta as scummy for his anti-town entrance. You have a lot of fluff in your filter, though. But that's actually worse than having nothing in its place. MrZentor keeps saying you're town for your spamminess, but that's not too hard for Mafia with some experience and knowledge to fake. All you have to do to keep MrZentor off you is to post something a lot, no matter how thought-out it is. I'm on the border of voting you right now based on this very early game alone. Prove me wrong. Start by scumhunting.

On January 14 2013 07:52 Xatalos wrote:


I'm trying to find any actual scumhunting in your filter, but it's just not there.

- You called Kush scummy for entering the thread in an anti-town fashion (extremely easy to attack a controversial player like that, and you never pursued this read anyway - you even corrected that his play was anti-town and not scummy later, so what caused this significant change of wording?)
- You called supersoft useless (not scummy though - this stab at supersoft was extremely unimpactful, weak and definitely neither pressure nor scumhunting, it achieved nothing for the thread)

And now you actually freak out and start accusing me suddenly. Is the pressure too much? Why would a townie react like that? I bet it's because you're scum and desperate to get off this situation. Combined with your absolute lack of effort to progress scumhunting so far, you're a very decent lynch at the moment.

##Vote jaybrundage

On January 14 2013 10:55 wherebugsgo wrote:
I think xatalos is a fine lynch for today, but I need to read up on his past games to make sure that he is the best lynch.

I don't agree with lynching super, so whoever is on him should probably consider moving their votes. On reread Hopeless doesn't seem that bad, just really lazy. I want him to actually do something though, or I may consider pushing him tomorrow, assuming I'm alive.

Ruuch: play the game or I'll stop giving you the newbie free card.

##vote Xatalos

On January 14 2013 11:41 MrZentor wrote:
Scum don't laugh at jokes.

SS is confirmed town.

+ Show Spoiler +

On January 14 2013 11:38 jaybrundage wrote:

Why Xatalos over SS I think both of played scummy so far.

On January 14 2013 07:52 Xatalos wrote:


I'm trying to find any actual scumhunting in your filter, but it's just not there.

- You called Kush scummy for entering the thread in an anti-town fashion (extremely easy to attack a controversial player like that, and you never pursued this read anyway - you even corrected that his play was anti-town and not scummy later, so what caused this significant change of wording?)
- You called supersoft useless (not scummy though - this stab at supersoft was extremely unimpactful, weak and definitely neither pressure nor scumhunting, it achieved nothing for the thread)

And now you actually freak out and start accusing me suddenly. Is the pressure too much? Why would a townie react like that? I bet it's because you're scum and desperate to get off this situation. Combined with your absolute lack of effort to progress scumhunting so far, you're a very decent lynch at the moment.

##Vote jaybrundage

On January 14 2013 19:08 Lazermonkey wrote:
I can lynch Jay. He is super non-commital this game. He basically doesn't have any strong reads at all. Everytime he posts about someone he is saying stuff like :
filter
He is doing this all the time and its a great way to appear contributing when you are in fact not.

Look at his filter from Hero MM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=384953&user=56992&currentpage=All
He seems way more active and dishes out alot of scum reads during the strat of D1. He doesn't this game.

Also, his vote on Xata is pure OMGUS

##Vote: jaybrundage

On January 15 2013 03:03 Lazermonkey wrote:
Then by all means, post everything about everything. You will probebly not get lynched today anyway.

On January 15 2013 03:19 Xatalos wrote:


Why won't you do something useful then instead of complaining how much of a lynchbait you are?

On January 15 2013 05:46 grush57 wrote:
Sorry guys, school and sleeping takes a big part of not being here, the first thing I do is read the thread :D.
I think both Lazermonkey and Prome are pretty scummy, in fact they might be bussing eachother.

On January 15 2013 05:55 grush57 wrote:
Alright I'll get on the prome train.
Choo Choo!
##Unvote
##Vote: Promethelax

On January 14 2013 02:52 grush57 wrote:


You're right, I forgot.

STARSENSES

On January 15 2013 11:05 wherebugsgo wrote:
if I ever get a gun and you're in the game with me MrZ, I can assure you I will consider killing you just for the lols.

On January 16 2013 00:26 Xatalos wrote:


Actually you're right, grush isn't looking good so far. But why didn't you write posts like this during D1 at all? All you achieved was basically a weak counter-vote on me and nothing after that. Mostly you were either lurking or responding to my pressure, with some random slight suspicions mixed in. Also, do you want to lynch me or grush now?

On January 15 2013 23:39 Lazermonkey wrote:
Oh, nvm. Didn't see you wrote scum team, thought you meant Vigi. Well, I'm cool with that then : ).

On January 15 2013 07:18 supersoft wrote:
Promethelax (5): slOosh, Hapahauli, thrawn2112, grush57, MrZentor
+ Lazer = 6 = majority.

sloosh Lazer and Zentor are scum if Prome flips town. And he will flip town.

mark my words now. I called it.

On January 16 2013 08:03 iamperfection wrote:

what do you mean just because he was somewhat friendly to his scum read. Thats pretty weak thrawn.

Hell in liquid city i talked openly to confirmed scum in the thread as town.

On January 17 2013 05:09 wherebugsgo wrote:
slOosh's argument is "let's not try to figure out the whole scumteam at once, since we don't know whether there are 3 or 4 scum in this game."

Instead, let's do what slOosh is doing: let's sow doubt, not actually scumhunt, and come back into the thread every few hours to whine about something minor/irrelevant.

On January 17 2013 05:25 slOosh wrote:

How is that a scummy thing, if I think hopeless has a better chance of flipping scum than him?

On January 17 2013 05:34 Xatalos wrote:


By the way, where do you stand on me right now? Still scum? You had your vote on me for the whole D1 but haven't talked much at all about me ever since. Now it looks like you're just going for Sloosh, grush or Hopeless. Not that I disagree with those players being scummy, but what caused this change of heart?

On January 17 2013 05:47 Xatalos wrote:


Hmmm. Your recent posts have been townish so maybe you actually are town... What's your stance on WBG?

On January 17 2013 06:54 grush57 wrote:
Nvm Ill go slooshie
##Unvote
##Vote: slOosh

On January 17 2013 06:09 Lazermonkey wrote:
Read his filter and you shall find the answer!

On January 17 2013 06:14 Xatalos wrote:


Are you basing your townread of WBG on Sloosh flipping scum? What if Sloosh is town? Is WBG still town then? And it's not that unlikely for scum WBG to say something in your defense... Almost everyone seemed to think of you as just a lynchbait at the time.

On January 17 2013 09:08 Hopeless1der wrote:
Question the first:
Why did Hapa vote for Ruuch?

Question the second:
Why did I vote for Ruuch?

---

@Lamp: Do you find my read of you suspicious, based on the posting, and circumstances surrounding the replacement, of Ruuch? By which I mean, do you think it is conceivable that I would arrive at a townread of you based on the limited information available?

On January 17 2013 10:26 slOosh wrote:
jay, you haven't objectively commented on hopeless. Right now you have him as town because you think I'm scum. That won't do. What about his posts show that he is town?

On January 17 2013 10:26 Hopeless1der wrote:

I asked the questions in that manner because my reasons were completely different than Hapa's. I was doing what little I could to save Prom, short of blowing up at the thread and calling everyone stupid, which seems to be the go-to response these days. Hapa on the other hand has been touting his scum-Prom read and all of the sudden feels its a good idea to go after Ruuch as a policy lynch. I won't deny it was a stupid wagon, but I felt it was a better to lose him than Prom. I didn't read Ruuch as scum, I read him as expendable, in comparison to Prom. Hapa trying to equate our votes as being equally scummy:
+ Show Spoiler +
is a massive load of bull. I appreciate your efforts to put words in my mouth, like my "implied" super strong town read of Prom, while simultaneously disregarding Question the First.

Furthermore, the "assume you're town" was specifically TO iamperfection because he asked me to explain myself. Are you going to jump down his throat for this post?:

Or does he get a free pass because he was speaking about himself?


Anyways, it seems I need to look towards self-preservation
##Unvote: Lazermonkey
##Vote: SlOosh

---

Primarily based on Ruuch's limited interactions with the thread.

On January 17 2013 12:41 wherebugsgo wrote:
man when someone votes 2 minutes before the deadline the proper thing to do is POLICY LYNCH THEM.

It doesn't matter what their appearance was before that, because a lurker who has never played before can either be town OR scum. They are only more likely to be town by virtue of chance.

On January 17 2013 15:54 wherebugsgo wrote:


think about what you are saying.

His behavior would have been almost exactly the same regardless of his alignment, because here's a shocker: people who have done what he did in the past have flipped scum.

it's stupid BUT SCUM STILL DO IT.

On January 17 2013 16:22 wherebugsgo wrote:
grush is not dying today.

On January 18 2013 08:30 wherebugsgo wrote:
I'm just going to leave these two links here.

Take about 10-12 minutes if you're curious, skim through them both.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=361826&user=53783&currentpage=All

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=371260&user=53783&currentpage=All

On January 18 2013 08:46 MrZentor wrote:
Hi guys.

On January 18 2013 09:30 grush57 wrote:
AHHHHHHHHHH THE SCUM TEAM IS......
STARSENSES..........

Hopeless
Lazer
JayBrundage

On January 18 2013 09:36 grush57 wrote:
but jay, because I am giving you a chance here, who is scum out of that list.

On January 18 2013 10:20 grush57 wrote:
ah yes. the infamous large case post by grushy.

On January 19 2013 11:27 Hopeless1der wrote:

@Jay:

Obviously you'll claim to be town. With MrZ and Thrawn being masoned together, do you believe LM, wbg and me are the scumteam?

On January 19 2013 11:54 grush57 wrote:


this guy is scum.
Also because hopeless is too...

##Vote: Hopeless1dr

On January 19 2013 11:57 Hopeless1der wrote:

I have never seen STARSENSES fail, and I don't think grush is scum.

On January 19 2013 11:57 Hopeless1der wrote:

I have never seen STARSENSES fail, and I don't think grush is scum.

On January 19 2013 11:59 jaybrundage wrote:

Ok im curious. Does he not like say starsenses if he rolls scum?

Or is it just that since he has been saying starsenses. He hasn't by chance rolled scum cause there is a huge difference.

On January 21 2013 09:19 wherebugsgo wrote:
also that was an incredibly convenient time for jay to come back, lol.

On January 21 2013 02:54 grush57 wrote:
I'll go for a lazermonkey lynch.

##Unvote
##Vote: lazermonkey

Also Mr. Zentor you are a confirmed town and you are doing absolute jack shit with it.

On January 19 2013 11:54 grush57 wrote:


this guy is scum.
Also because hopeless is too...

##Vote: Hopeless1dr

On January 20 2013 13:26 grush57 wrote:
Also I have a plan

On January 21 2013 11:08 iamperfection wrote:
Your having a bad game hapa. Wrong about prom,rouch,and hopeless.

On January 22 2013 10:42 iamperfection wrote:

any ideas on how we can spur activity.

On January 22 2013 10:54 iamperfection wrote:

hapa lazer and i have no clue on the third could be anyone

Lamp do you think a WBG and Hapa scum team is possible?
anything is possible but i think that is somewhat unlikely.

On January 22 2013 11:06 grush57 wrote:
Some of you aren't convinced wbg is scum either, but Hapa is scum too so I am fine with lynching him first.
Are there any games of town wbg recently making it to lylo?
A town wbg should of been shot by now(hapa too prolly), and there are only excuse was last night because of town confirmed zentor.

On January 22 2013 11:12 iamperfection wrote:
but i'm pretty sure xata isn't scum

On January 22 2013 11:16 grush57 wrote:
It's alright, it's my town trait to be more active in lylo :D

On January 22 2013 11:19 iamperfection wrote:

i think me and iamperfection already discussed this.

On January 22 2013 11:18 grush57 wrote:
But idk whats much to discuss, it's pretty clear that hapa is scum and he is going to die today, and even the scum will probably bus hapa at this point. :'(

On January 22 2013 11:27 Dandel Ion wrote:
Votekaboozle

Hapahauli (4): iamperfection, jaybrundage, grush, wherebugsgo, jaybrundage

Not voting (3): Xatalos, Lazermonkey, Hapahauli


Currently, Hapahauli is set to be lynched.
Lotsa time until deadline.

On January 22 2013 11:30 grush57 wrote:

Are you a rider of the storm?

On January 23 2013 09:36 Hapahauli wrote:
DON'T LYNCH ME GAIZ

On January 23 2013 12:11 wherebugsgo wrote:
once Hapa flips I think we should just kill grush. At this point Hapa is 99.5% scum, and 100% douchebag

+ Show Spoiler +

I can see good reasons for lynching Lazer too, the narrow escapes being the best. Where is iamp?

On January 24 2013 06:41 grush57 wrote:
I hope you all go throughout his (WBG's) filter aswell and make some reads yourself. I feel like I didn't get everything there was just too much scumminess.

On January 24 2013 06:45 grush57 wrote:
Yea I know me wanting to end the game quick sounds extremely scummy, but I was honest that I just wanted to save time. Going through your (WBG's) filter has changed my mind tho, I can lynch LZ first :D.

On January 24 2013 07:53 grush57 wrote:
Well I meant that going through wbg's filter im not 100% sure he is scum, and I should lynch lazermonkey.

On January 24 2013 08:05 grush57 wrote:

Idk stupid reasoning, I thought we would save time if we just decide between me and wbg so the game would essentially be over. If i get lynched gg, if we lynch wbg then lazermonkey would prolly just surrender.

On January 24 2013 23:43 iamperfection wrote:
i might have to save the rest of you to this afternoon.

some questions though while i ponder

1- jay describe your town play to me if you would be so kind.

2- grush wbg is town who is your scum team?

On January 25 2013 04:39 Lazermonkey wrote:
Jay

Well, after really analysing his filter, I must say he looks far far worse than grush.

1. His vote on Hopeless.
All of Jay's votes this far has been super funky. But the one who is by far the most funky is his vote on hopeless. + Show Spoiler +Just look how he goes from, ''I have a slight town read on Hopeless regardless of SlOosh flipping scum or not'' to ''I think Hopeless is scum because SlOosh flipped SK''. He doesn't actully give out any reasoning for voting Hopeless what so ever. Even better, he doesn't actually push Hopeless at all and before Hopeless is lynched, he asks Hopeless to give out his reads in case he is town (Lol). Instead he goes on to poke a bit on grush for lurking.

2. His interactions with Hapa
self-explanatory + and I did post about this earlier.

3. He doesn't really have any town reads.
Giving out town reads usually isn't alignment indicative. But the way Jay does it, I feel it is. His only real town reads (and by ''real'', I'm excluding stuff like null/slight town shit) were WBG and MrZentor. Both for shit reasons. WBG because he said that it made no sense for both him and SlOosh and WBG to be scum but SlOosh hadn't even flipped at that point. MrZentor because he defended him at the start if D1... I get the impression that he is trying to buddy up with the vets while setting up bandwagons everywhere else.

4. His back and forth with grush
Note that this is actually not that dependant on grush being scum, though it does indeed make him look worse if grush is indeed scum. Basically all game he has got a scum read on grush it seems, yet he doesn't want to vote him nor truly push him. He just keeps on poking him a little bit now and then. Very non-commital. Look at British Empire MM where he had a scum read on Mr.CC and note the big diference compared to this game. In both game he was having a scum read who noone else was really interested in. In British, he kept pushing Mr. CC like a madman. In this game, not so much. Also, why no vote on grush? In British he mentions CC for like the third time ever in the game and BAM, vote right away.+ Show Spoiler +Even now, he hasn't voted grush. He keeps on pushing him like mad, yet he says we should vote for me tomorrow.

On January 25 2013 09:02 grush57 wrote:

ok def wbg + jay scum team.
##Vote: Jaybrundage

On January 25 2013 13:37 wherebugsgo wrote:
I think I prefer grush based on his interaction with hapa, but to be honest I see no possibility other than grush + lazer anyway.

On January 25 2013 20:31 Lazermonkey wrote:
@Jay's response

1. I don't understand your logic here. Why is SlOosh flipping SK changing your read on Hopeless again?

2. My point still stands.

3. Okay, fair enough.

4. But why do you keep tunneling grush then? You get response that you say is scummy but yet you don't vote him...

Also:Scum slip? : ) Indicating grush is scum this game.

On January 26 2013 10:52 wherebugsgo wrote:
where the fuck is xata?

Xata I want to know if you think jay + lazer is more likely than jay + grush.

I'm pretty much gonna rule out grush + lazer, I think that might be too simple.

On January 26 2013 19:58 Lazermonkey wrote:
You see, I think you are lying here. Note the bolded part in this post:You see, it actually doesn't make any sense for you to be swapping your reads on Hopeless just because SlOosh slips SK. From scum PoV SlOosh looks just like a townie, so why would you actually change your read (town hopeless -> scum hopeless) because SlOosh flipped SK? Had SlOosh been town and Hopeless been scum, scum would have been just as inclined to save Hopeless as if Hopeless were scum and SlOosh SK. I think this logical faliure is a quite strong proof of that you cannot be town...

On January 26 2013 22:19 Xatalos wrote:


Don't you really have any preference? Do you care about the lynch or are you just sheeping the result?

On January 27 2013 03:15 Xatalos wrote:
Btw Jay, why do you include WBG in your scum choices? Wasn't he a good townread for you?

On January 27 2013 03:18 wherebugsgo wrote:
Lol I'm terrible at this.

Yeah if jay was truly inactive because of internet problems that says nothing about his activity. All three of these guys were virtually useless the entire game.

On January 27 2013 03:30 wherebugsgo wrote:


I literally do not have a read on any of you, it might as well be day 1, 1 hour into the game.

None of you have done anything all game that is significantly alignment indicative to me.

On January 27 2013 03:40 wherebugsgo wrote:
I went back and reread the end of thrawn's filter.

I really do not think his death on n2 was mere coincidence. He had at some point stated he had a scumread on grush, and pushed Lazer super hard. He urged us to lynch Lazer over hopeless the next day. And he died, and I really doubt he was a blue snipe; I don't remember him feeling blue at all.

Based on this Lazer may be a better option than grush today.

Thoughts Xata?

On January 27 2013 04:06 Lazermonkey wrote:
No, I'm considering it too. That's why I want to kill Jay first...

On January 27 2013 04:18 grush57 wrote:
COMMAN JAY OR LAZER WHO WE GOING FOR WBG

On January 27 2013 04:35 grush57 wrote:
You guys consult him for everything so why not ask him>

On January 27 2013 04:46 Lazermonkey wrote:
So instead of actually trying to convince us that you are a misslynch you ask your scum read on who to vote?

On January 27 2013 05:38 wherebugsgo wrote:
no how the fuck is that trolling?

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=344514&user=165092&currentpage=All

look at that, THAT is trolling.

I am NoSmurfHere btw, look at my filter and comments on grush. He is definitely not trolly here. I don't think he is scum anymore tbh.

lazer, let's go.

##unvote
##vote Lazermonkey

On January 27 2013 06:06 Lazermonkey wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote: jaybrundageDoing this now. Will kill grush if this ain't happening.

On January 27 2013 06:22 wherebugsgo wrote:
I don't understand, why would we care about grush changing his meta?

I've never seen someone drastically change their meta, and this is fucking grush we're talking about.

iamp might have agreed but I'm going to go check that newbie game that kush smurfed in. From what I recall his play was somewhat like what he did here.

On January 27 2013 06:26 wherebugsgo wrote:


occam's razor is that he didn't change, because people don't voluntarily change their meta.

it's not that easy to change your meta, and I seriously doubt a player like grush would have the foresight to do so.

On January 27 2013 06:34 Xatalos wrote:


So this relies on grush being incompetent... But keep in mind that Hapa was scum as well. He could have easily coached grush to try something a bit different this time around. I doubt Hapa would have let grush just completely troll like he did previously. But he started trolling HIMSELF this game, so what do I know. Please do read Kush's filter in Witchcraft and tell me what you think then.

On January 27 2013 06:49 Xatalos wrote:


It's possible, but I'm not confident on Lazer flipping scum, so I want to lynch grush. It's troubling that Lazer has always somehow escaped the wagons that started forming on him, and he hasn't really done much to make me think he's town during the game, but it's still a lot more than grush has going for him. And more than you have going for you. So why would we lynch Lazer now?

On January 27 2013 07:11 wherebugsgo wrote:
why does jay not have a preference, wtf

have you ever had a preference this game?

On January 27 2013 07:21 wherebugsgo wrote:
the games aren't even comparable because in witchcraft kush was alive much longer than here. It makes it almost worthless in terms of comparison, it's far better to compare his play to the newbie.

kush's play is a big blank in this game apart from what he said and did regarding hapa, a flipped scum.

You can draw conclusions based on lazer's play, literally everyone who died this game called lazer scum, they tried lynching him, we failed 3 times (although the second time we killed the SK so w/e)

between grush and jay it's a complete coin flip, there's almost no way I can foresee being able to tell the difference between them.

At this point your stubbornness on this matter is making me rethink that there might actually be two town among the fucktards that decided to do nothing all game, and that the RB claim on you is worth shit.

On January 27 2013 07:40 wherebugsgo wrote:
if jay is here and willing to swap to LM then we can just kill him.

On January 27 2013 07:57 wherebugsgo wrote:


here's a tip, if you're town don't be such a useless asshole and we won't have situations like this.

I've been telling this to you since you first started playing the game and still you haven't changed

On January 27 2013 07:55 wherebugsgo wrote:
wait what one hour?

I thought deadline was 15:00 PST :O

well that makes me feel better

On January 27 2013 08:01 wherebugsgo wrote:
next time

GET REPLACED

On January 27 2013 08:08 wherebugsgo wrote:
you want me to prove a point to you guys?

there's 50 minutes left, I'm leaving. for real this time.

Bye.

On January 27 2013 08:14 Xatalos wrote:


So you're not going to answer why you're so convinced that grush is suddenly town and Lazer is scum with the backing of thrawn, supersoft etc.? That's too WIFOM anyway, scum might have planned for this or just killed those players for other reasons. A much better reason IMO is how Lazer has nicely avoided all the times he's been up for lynch, with other wagons forming conveniently, since it's not even WIFOM but clear logic.

There's still time, think about it. You're just basically giving up now.

On January 27 2013 08:32 grush57 wrote:
OMG.
LETS LAST MINUTE VOTESWITCH WBG

On January 27 2013 08:34 grush57 wrote:
i could see wbg+xata, but idk why xata would want to lynch him then.

On January 27 2013 09:04 Xatalos wrote:
Jay did all the work for the scumteam. Every shot, and of course all the RBs (go figure).

Mafia never roleblocked somebody that's not on their team. In fact, they actually actively roleblocked themselves (instead of just not RBing) one or two times, for god knows what reason.


Lololol yeah we weren't the most conventional team :D

On January 27 2013 14:46 wherebugsgo wrote:


I think your play was good but it will only work once I think lol :p

I have no problem with what strategy you used, I think it's legitimate and it doesn't break any rules, so it's all good. Whatever happens in-game stays in-game, IMO.

On January 27 2013 15:19 Keirathi wrote:

It depends on your definition of "better". I picked up on the mindset change almost immediately once you started getting votes on the last day and would have seriously questioned you about it.

In recent town games, you have been like "But...but...I'm an easy mislynch! Don't mislynch me! I don't really have much and I've been (*insert whatever*), but I'mr eally town and the easiest mislynch ever!" whereas in this game you were...forceful...for lack of a better term, rather than pleading.

But yes, it is a better strategy assuming you keep it up in your town games if you get into a situation where you're about to be lynched again