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Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
January 18 2013 00:07 GMT
#1321
DAT flavor. Bugs am I being lynched based on meta?
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
January 18 2013 00:09 GMT
#1322
you're being lynched cause you're scum.

Deal with it.

I may decide to lynch Mr. Lazerscum instead, but who knows, there's probably about 24 hours before I get shot in the face anyway.
grush57
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2582 Posts
January 18 2013 00:09 GMT
#1323
Yes sir!
"Every thing is either simply awful or awfully simple." | "Weaklings can't pick... their way of death."
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
January 18 2013 00:14 GMT
#1324
Nice taking care of the SK. Surprising there wasn't two shots day 1 tho. Thought there wasn't a SK this game.
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
January 18 2013 00:17 GMT
#1325
here's something to note:

people who were willing to lynch slOosh early on (why the bandwagon moved so quickly, basically) are more likely to be scum because

1. scum would not know there is an SK unless their shot was blocked. That actually is certainly possible given that super was convinced slOosh was scum. Since super died n1 and no one else died, it's possible that scum knew there was an SK if and only if their shot was blocked.

2. If scum also shot super, (and either the SK stacked or chose not to shoot) then everyone who was more willing to lynch slOosh early on is likely to be scum. The hardest part about being scum is predicting town's sentiment, and they need to do it in order to blend in. I tried to be as unpredictable as possible in order to force scum to make tough decisions. I don't know if it worked, but because the vote was so close, d2 is a goldmine of information. Names that stand out without me even going back to reread are grush, Zentor, Hopeless, and Lazer.

3. Anyone who stayed away from slOosh and Hopeless completely, but still had reasons for doing so is a bit more likely to be town. I'm not sure how to read players like this (i.e. Xatalos) but I think rereading should help here.

Everyone's job now for the night should be to go back and reread. If you find something interesting, report it. I'll try to post stuff before the deadline tomorrow but there's a strong chance I won't be here at that time. Tomorrow is Friday, I fly back to school on the weekend, and I'll be going out.
grush57
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2582 Posts
January 18 2013 00:21 GMT
#1326
Ah yes scum must of hit slooshie
"Every thing is either simply awful or awfully simple." | "Weaklings can't pick... their way of death."
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
January 18 2013 00:22 GMT
#1327
oh also:

this makes the double insta-delurk make much more sense now.

When I was thinking about it, I was convinced that both of them couldn't be scum because of it. If they were both scum they certainly both wouldn't reenter at the same time. However, I expected either of them as town to be active BEFORE being called out.

It makes far more sense now in retrospect for one of them to be SK and the other to be mafia. I don't think I am incorrect about Hopeless being mafia. slOosh's reads at the very least would be partially motivated by trying to find scum. He, as third party, has almost as much of an interest in finding scum as we do. Indeed, if he got Hopeless lynched, he would have either looked far better or far worse (if Hopeless flipped scum/town respectively, obviously).

The other thing I noticed was that I liked Hopeless's list of voters more than slOosh's. This is consistent in retrospect, seeing slOosh flip SK.
grush57
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2582 Posts
January 18 2013 00:30 GMT
#1328
AHHHHHHHHHH THE SCUM TEAM IS......
STARSENSES..........

Hopeless
Lazer
JayBrundage
"Every thing is either simply awful or awfully simple." | "Weaklings can't pick... their way of death."
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
January 18 2013 00:33 GMT
#1329
On January 18 2013 09:30 grush57 wrote:
AHHHHHHHHHH THE SCUM TEAM IS......
STARSENSES..........

Hopeless
Lazer
JayBrundage

Thats nice. Now the townie thing to do is to put...whats the word. Oh yea your reasoning.
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 18 2013 00:33 GMT
#1330
WBG: why were you trying to lynch someone you thought was sk instead of 2 other people (hope/lazer) you had scumreads on?
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
grush57
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2582 Posts
January 18 2013 00:34 GMT
#1331
On January 18 2013 09:33 jaybrundage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2013 09:30 grush57 wrote:
AHHHHHHHHHH THE SCUM TEAM IS......
STARSENSES..........

Hopeless
Lazer
JayBrundage

Thats nice. Now the townie thing to do is to put...whats the word. Oh yea your reasoning.

the third person was a tossup between u, thrawn, xata, and hapa.
"Every thing is either simply awful or awfully simple." | "Weaklings can't pick... their way of death."
grush57
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2582 Posts
January 18 2013 00:34 GMT
#1332
but starsenses tells me it is you.
"Every thing is either simply awful or awfully simple." | "Weaklings can't pick... their way of death."
grush57
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2582 Posts
January 18 2013 00:36 GMT
#1333
but jay, because I am giving you a chance here, who is scum out of that list.
"Every thing is either simply awful or awfully simple." | "Weaklings can't pick... their way of death."
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
January 18 2013 00:37 GMT
#1334
On January 18 2013 09:33 thrawn2112 wrote:
WBG: why were you trying to lynch someone you thought was sk instead of 2 other people (hope/lazer) you had scumreads on?


I'm not going to assume a guy is SK just because I think his meta matches it. There was no evidence that an SK even existed.

Partly the reason I thought he might possibly be SK is because hopeless and slOosh were both doing things that made no sense if they were both scum. Initially my reaction was maybe one of them is just playing like shit town, so I preferred slOosh over hopeless for that (and that read kind of waffled over time as people kept pointing out good reasons to lynch both of them)

In particular the double delurk made me really question what was going on. That's when I went back and looked in slOosh's past games and found two games where I thought his play was similar to this one. I didn't check his alignment till I had completed reading the filters and come to the conclusion that he was some kind of scum in both. There was some sort of difference I couldn't really pin down, and then when I read the alignments, the first one was assassin and the second one was scum.

I had a feeling his play was more similar to the first game but I really wasn't that confident to simply call him SK.
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
January 18 2013 00:45 GMT
#1335
Given that Sloosh was SK. It makes my read of hopeless off. I assumed that sloosh would flip scum which would make Hopeless more likly to be town. But with Sloosh flipping SK it makes Hopeless seem a lot scummier imo.

Tmw we should lynch hopeless or lynch grush. His pretty useless and hasn't contributed at all. When he does deem to give his reads. He doesn't follow it with any reasoning.

Also Mr.Z i said it before but you gotta step it up. Where is the late game Mr.Z that was promised to me
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
grush57
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2582 Posts
January 18 2013 00:46 GMT
#1336
Oh yea I forgot about zentor. I'll replace him with you.
"Every thing is either simply awful or awfully simple." | "Weaklings can't pick... their way of death."
grush57
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2582 Posts
January 18 2013 00:47 GMT
#1337
But definitely hopeless tomorrow.
"Every thing is either simply awful or awfully simple." | "Weaklings can't pick... their way of death."
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
January 18 2013 00:53 GMT
#1338
On January 18 2013 09:36 grush57 wrote:
but jay, because I am giving you a chance here, who is scum out of that list.

I think Hopeless is scum and would be down for his lynch as i said.

LM is null. I do see some town vibes here and there.

Also I think you have a good chance flip scum. I want to see you post more. I want to see more posts with reasoning.

You still havent given me my answer. Why is LM scum to you. What about Hopeless is scummy. Why am i scummy ffs. Lets hear it all. Quit lurking and start posting.
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
grush57
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2582 Posts
January 18 2013 01:20 GMT
#1339
ah yes. the infamous large case post by grushy.
"Every thing is either simply awful or awfully simple." | "Weaklings can't pick... their way of death."
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
January 18 2013 01:25 GMT
#1340
On January 18 2013 10:20 grush57 wrote:
ah yes. the infamous large case post by grushy.

If Zentor can do it so can you
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
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