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thrawn2112
United States6918 Posts
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wherebugsgo
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thrawn2112
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iamperfection
United States9640 Posts
You would think as scum he could at least throw some town reads around. To come in that weakly may mean he is in fact town. | ||
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thrawn2112
United States6918 Posts
On January 18 2013 04:05 iamperfection wrote: He could just be terrible. You would think as scum he could at least throw some town reads around. To come in that weakly may mean he is in fact town. which is more likely.. that he's town and has no reads or that he;'s scum? | ||
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wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
On January 18 2013 04:05 thrawn2112 wrote: then why are you voting for hopeless other than sloosh or lazer? Lazer's not getting lynched today, and I want to keep the votes close. | ||
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iamperfection
United States9640 Posts
On January 18 2013 04:09 thrawn2112 wrote: which is more likely.. that he's town and has no reads or that he;'s scum? Do you have a coin nearby? | ||
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iamperfection
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thrawn2112
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you just said it's more liekly that he's town for doing that. so which is it? what's your non coinflip related read on lm? | ||
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
I need to rest some, but I should be around from now until the deadline. Regarding Hopeless We still should be lynching him. What about his responses have convinced you that he's town? He's lurking, he's dropping reads with barely any justification, and he made a self-preservation vote 24-hours before the lynch deadline. Hell I can't see where he pulled his read on SloOsh from: I'm more inclined to believe bugs and Ruuch(Lamp) are town, so right now my choices to vote are Lazer and SlOosh, and possibly Hapa for no other reason than his vote was in scummy places. SlOosh, you asked me why I wasn't pushing my own read, but its not like I could have stopped you from voting Prom. The whole point of that exercise was to question my motives, not to see if I had anything new to contribute. Hapa is next to impossible to reason with, and when was the last time you saw grush respond to any form of logic? Attempting to get Lazer lynched when Prom was afk and super didn't give two shits (hell, he swapped onto a townread) wasn't remotely possible, and if you honestly believe I had a chance in hell, please tell me what you are smoking. Bugs' vote was on Zentor, until Ruuch showed his face. Bugs didn't do much to stop the Prom lynch, other than trying to get Ruuch at the last minute. This move puts him under suspicion, same as Hapa, but based on the night conversations, I believe only 1 of SlOosh and wbg are scum. I'm not discounting the possibility that both sloosh and wbg are scum, but it seems far less likely, and I think sloosh is more suspicious (/sheep bugs). Sloosh, LM, Hapa That's everything in his filter that could be considered suspicion on slOosh. And none of it is suspicion. It's just name-dropping and/or defending himself from sloOsh's line of questioning. Regarding SloOsh We should not be lynching him over a guy that has displayed numerous inconsistencies that are incompatible with a town-mentality (Hopeless). I have my doubts about SloOsh. He's interested in pushing Hopeless, and he's more active in his defense than you all give him credit for. I think we need to give him another day to prove himself one way or the other. In the mean-time, we need to lynch the scummiest guy in the thread - Hopeless. | ||
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
On January 17 2013 12:35 iamperfection wrote: hrm it is interesting that hapa did this however When i was reading the thread i thought it was pretty clear that Ruuch was a super noob town and now hapa is going herp derp scum claim. Usally when hapa is town despite the tunnely aspect of his play he is open to other possibilities and very self aware of confirmation bias he may have. i'll have to sleep on this but for now ## unvote At the time, my vote on Ruuch was not due to his last-minute de-lurk, but also due to the manner in which he entered into the thread. He made a post, the entirety of which criticized/lectured "the town" rather than making any reads, which I thought I made pretty clear: On January 15 2013 08:54 Hapahauli wrote: So Ruuch. Why are you voting Promethelax. On January 15 2013 08:55 Hapahauli wrote: Because you just devoted your entire post to criticizing the town and none of it towards making any reads or observations. My vote was much more emotionally-driven than it should have been, but that's what I was thinking then. | ||
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
On January 18 2013 03:17 slOosh wrote: Ehh ... disappointing. You guys let Mr Zentor and grush lurk away, you guys vote me on a comparison basis of WBG, many of you totally ignoring / avoiding commenting on hopeless (I can't tell the difference) and none of you seem to be concerned that hopeless is lurking now that the lynch is pretty much set. I'll read dump later tonight when I have time, and with my flip you maybe you guys will finally get it together, cause this has got to be the most frustrating town I have ever played with. Can you find some time to do this earlier? We're only 4 hours from the deadline, and resigning yourself to getting lynched is far from optimal if you're town. | ||
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iamperfection
United States9640 Posts
On January 18 2013 04:31 thrawn2112 wrote: you just said it's more liekly that he's town for doing that. so which is it? what's your non coinflip related read on lm? Gun to my head town. | ||
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wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
that's literally the only downside to killing him, it seemed like the wagon appeared too fast. | ||
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iamperfection
United States9640 Posts
## vote hopeless hopefully he will come back with something if he is town. | ||
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
On January 18 2013 03:17 Lazermonkey wrote: My main scum read died N1 you know. I had to reevaluate my reads alot after that. Can you explain how you changed your reads though? Telling us that you "re-evaluated" doesn't do much, especially when you voted WBG on Day 1, and are so willing to follow him right now. I can't figure out where your town-read on WBG came from. You went from this on Day 1/Night 1: On January 15 2013 08:42 Lazermonkey wrote: ##Vote: WBG It's never too late... On January 15 2013 23:41 Lazermonkey wrote: WBG, do you mind explaining this?What is an auto-town read? And what is sciberbias? He is a player afaik, so I guess it has to do with something he done in a game in the past. To your town-read today: On January 18 2013 02:45 Lazermonkey wrote: SlOosh. I'm not too sure of the next two players as my main scum target died tonight... However, I'm quite sure the two remaining scum are among Hapa grush Xata Jay Iamp MrZentor. On January 18 2013 02:38 Lazermonkey wrote: Okay, I'm killing SlOosh tonight. WBGs post about the timestamps + how he avoided to vote is convincing enough for me to vote him. ##Vote: SlOosh ...and you never give any explanation for it in your filter. | ||
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iamperfection
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Lazermonkey
Sweden2176 Posts
Thrawn: town. I played vs him last game when he was scum and I town. His play D1 was very active and he pushed a lots of reads in a genuine way I think. Besides, last game he opted to tunnel me for all of D1 pretty much. If he were to be scum he would be less inclined to play this way because I'd be naturally suspicious of it. Hapa: Activ and open about his reads. Town. Hopeless: town for reasons I've already said. Grush: Grush is hard to read as he trolls no matter what alignment he got. I sincerely do not know Jay: I actually got a town read on this guy now. He is doing way better at posting than he originally did. The way he responded to Xata about his scum read on him is something I specially like as Iike. He said that Xata lynch probebly wasn't going to happend and that other players were more suspicious than him, which to me looks very geniun and town. SlOosh: Scum. Sheeping WBG on this pretty much. And look at his most recent post: On January 18 2013 03:17 slOosh wrote: Why does he feel the need to say this? Wouldn't town in his position do just about anything to try to hunt scum because if you are going to die, you might as well give out some reads that is going to be 100% confirmed once you die? Why isn't he attacking WBG who he thought were scum?Ehh ... disappointing. You guys let Mr Zentor and grush lurk away, you guys vote me on a comparison basis of WBG, many of you totally ignoring / avoiding commenting on hopeless (I can't tell the difference) and none of you seem to be concerned that hopeless is lurking now that the lynch is pretty much set. I'll read dump later tonight when I have time, and with my flip you maybe you guys will finally get it together, cause this has got to be the most frustrating town I have ever played with. WBG: Town on WBG. He is scum hunting ALOT. Trying to get the thread onto the right track. For example he was defending Jay early on because of meta reasons even if Jay looked quite bad back then. I don't see why scum WBG would be defending Jay when he easily just could've just pushed him or just ignored him for a potential misslynch. Same thing with me when I ''slipped'' earlier in the thread. Iamp/Ruush: slight town. It seems a bit unlikely that Ruush would play in the way he played if he had been scum. Scum would probebly coach him way more. Xatalos: Scum. Didn't care for shit about D1 lynch. Said he wasn't too sure about Prom flipping scum and didn't think I was scum either but yet ends up voting him because he has to go to sleep. However, he didn't even try to swap the lynch to one of his higher scum reads but just stood by. MrZentor: Slight town. He is just way more active than he usually is when he is scum. And his reads actually seems quite legit this game. His interactions with WBG near deadline D1 seems really good in fact. If I had to guess, scum team is grush/Xatalos/SlOosh. I really need to study now, but I'll be back in some time, at least an hour before the lynch. Most likely more. | ||
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grush57
Korea (South)2582 Posts
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iamperfection
United States9640 Posts
On January 18 2013 05:19 grush57 wrote: hahahahaha whats the joke? | ||
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