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On January 15 2013 07:13 supersoft wrote:
haha, wbg, thats surpsing news right now...
please write up a case.
it's basically this: he's being far dumber/useless than I would expect from even the town version of Zentor, and he seems to be calling people town for no particular reason quite a lot. He's also clearly not reading, though I guess town Zentor doesn't read either.
First of all, he asked someone where his vote should go, which in of itself is bad, but when given the obvious answer (where the guy's vote was) he responded with, "but just because your vote is on him doesn't mean you'd want my vote to be on him too!) which is incredibly stupid even by Zentor standards.
Secondly, he found the need to call himself terrible first day despite the fact that there was no attention on him at the time he joined the wagon on Promethelax. Why?
Lastly, he has done nothing but call people town. He has had no real scumreads all game-he named a few things about you that he thought were scummy then called you town. He called jay town within the first hour of the game.
He said this:
On January 14 2013 11:51 MrZentor wrote:Show nested quote +On January 14 2013 11:43 jaybrundage wrote:On January 14 2013 11:41 MrZentor wrote:Scum don't laugh at jokes. SS is confirmed town. + Show Spoiler + You think its that simple eh >.< Z who would you go for lynch today. You have been saying your town reads. But who's your best bet on as scum. Idk, WBG, Hopeless, Xata, and Hapa are all kind of shady. I'll try to narrow it down to one or two suspects tomorrow.
and then two posts later he says this:
On January 15 2013 06:22 MrZentor wrote:
Hi Hapa, who do you think I should vote for?
which indicates he basically assumed Hapa is town. Either he knows something or something changed, and I really doubt Zentor read the thread to change his mind given his opinions/actions so far.
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no one sheeps me, I'm not Palmar
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i'd absolutely sheep you since MrZ is a solid lynch.
Much better than Prom obviously. Right now we don't have the majority... it's actually pretty sad
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Hey WBG, you talked about nobody being worthy enough to be defended by you, but you've been defending Prom pretty hard all game.
Can you explain?
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On January 15 2013 07:24 MrZentor wrote:
Hey WBG, you talked about nobody being worthy enough to be defended by you, but you've been defending Prom pretty hard all game.
Can you explain?
Examples please. I disagree with your statement.
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Are either of you familiar with MrZ's town play? Because I just got out of a game with him in British Mini where he did much the same as he is doing now. As town.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=391112&user=137099
The way you read MrZ is via his activity and willingness to post. He's lurk-tastic as scum, and he's really light-hearted and open as town.
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On January 15 2013 07:24 MrZentor wrote:
Hey WBG, you talked about nobody being worthy enough to be defended by you, but you've been defending Prom pretty hard all game.
Can you explain?
given that you haven't read the thread, this is a pretty empty accusation.
Find an instance where I called Prom town. I can guarantee you that you will not find it even without going back into my filter.
The only two players that I have really defended this game (if you can even call it that) are jay and super.
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On January 15 2013 07:26 Hopeless1der wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2013 07:24 MrZentor wrote:
Hey WBG, you talked about nobody being worthy enough to be defended by you, but you've been defending Prom pretty hard all game.
Can you explain? Examples please. I disagree with your statement.
Yo, the guy you are leaning town on is set to be lynched. What are you doing?
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On January 15 2013 07:27 slOosh wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2013 07:26 Hopeless1der wrote:On January 15 2013 07:24 MrZentor wrote:
Hey WBG, you talked about nobody being worthy enough to be defended by you, but you've been defending Prom pretty hard all game.
Can you explain? Examples please. I disagree with your statement. Yo, the guy you are leaning town on is set to be lynched. What are you doing?
Im poking Zentor for misrepresenting wbg's filter.
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There's still ~90 minutes until deadline. If you think Prom is town then you should be defending him and convincing people to take their votes off. If you think someone is much more likely to flip scum than him then you should be pushing for them and convincing people to switch over.
I see neither, but I do see people complaining about the Prom lynch. If you don't like it then do something about it.
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On January 15 2013 07:30 Hopeless1der wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2013 07:27 slOosh wrote:On January 15 2013 07:26 Hopeless1der wrote:On January 15 2013 07:24 MrZentor wrote:
Hey WBG, you talked about nobody being worthy enough to be defended by you, but you've been defending Prom pretty hard all game.
Can you explain? Examples please. I disagree with your statement. Yo, the guy you are leaning town on is set to be lynched. What are you doing? Im poking Zentor for misrepresenting wbg's filter.
Yea ... because that's the most important thing before one of your town reads is gonna get lynched.
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WBG, you've still not explained why you think I'm scum...
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On January 15 2013 07:31 slOosh wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2013 07:30 Hopeless1der wrote:On January 15 2013 07:27 slOosh wrote:On January 15 2013 07:26 Hopeless1der wrote:On January 15 2013 07:24 MrZentor wrote:
Hey WBG, you talked about nobody being worthy enough to be defended by you, but you've been defending Prom pretty hard all game.
Can you explain? Examples please. I disagree with your statement. Yo, the guy you are leaning town on is set to be lynched. What are you doing? Im poking Zentor for misrepresenting wbg's filter. Yea ... because that's the most important thing before one of your town reads is gonna get lynched.
If I can show him to be scummier than Prom, then yes, that would be rather useful. ZENTOR, HOP TO IT
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On January 15 2013 07:26 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2013 07:24 MrZentor wrote:
Hey WBG, you talked about nobody being worthy enough to be defended by you, but you've been defending Prom pretty hard all game.
Can you explain? given that you haven't read the thread, this is a pretty empty accusation. Find an instance where I called Prom town. I can guarantee you that you will not find it even without going back into my filter. The only two players that I have really defended this game (if you can even call it that) are jay and super.
You assume I haven't been reading the thread because I disagree with you? Weak.
So the definition of defending somebody is calling them scum? There are plenty of times you said that you agreed Prom is suspicious, but you always point to somebody as being more scummy.
On January 14 2013 11:44 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On January 14 2013 11:10 Hopeless1der wrote:@bugs, does SS's response to youbelow, especially regarding Prom, make sense in the context of what you'd asked him at the time? On January 13 2013 21:00 supersoft wrote:On January 13 2013 16:03 wherebugsgo wrote:
super, agree/disagree:
three of four
Hopeless
Xatalos
Zentor
Promethelax ahm, agree on Zentor obviously disagree on xatalos right now, slooshs case doesn't convince me. Many pointless questions were asked in this thread. He randomly understands my smilie-pressuring... got to think about him a little. Hopeless vote on grush is terrible, + Show Spoiler +i read grush as town, grushs questions make sense, overall posting look okay, i don't see any signs of scummyness. it's not enough posting for me to really have an opinion about hopeless. ofc. might be scum. Prom is a nice catch, i agree on him. His larger post + Show Spoiler +On January 13 2013 20:09 Promethelax wrote:
Lol at bugs, I'm scum because I was at work when the game started.
Is there some unspoken rule about us not asking grush to give us his town breadcrumb? Because that is all I want from him right now.
For those of you who haven't played with Kush assume he is similar to chezinu but without either the class or the ability to find scum. He is a troll who will troll all game long but it
Isn't too hard to get a read on. I would like to hear both Hapa and thrawn's opinions of Kush. They know how to read him, as do I.
Super, are you town?
pointless, i already answered this question in my very first post - he didnt read
Zentor, can I expect you to be useful This game or should I put you into the troll column? pointless
Jay, what's your read of zentor?
Slopsh, opinions on anyone who doesn't have a million point scrabble name.
looks extremely scummy, pointless questioning, didn't read the thread properly supersoft generally looks at scum in different ways than I do. I can see some of his points but I disagreed with him on xatalos. I agreed with both of his sentiments about you and Prom, but honestly neither of you have done much scummy since, you just both seem to be playing a bit weird. Xatalos, on the other hand, seems way too passive to be town.
Yeah, Prom is a little suspicious, but we should lynch him; we should lynch Sloosh.
On January 15 2013 05:54 wherebugsgo wrote:
oh right, I keep forgetting we have that. lol.
well, I'm going to continue asking people that way anyway :p
One thing I want to mention right away about Promethelax is that I found his interactions with sloosh very weird. Basically he was voted by sloosh at some point iirc, but he didn't respond in a way I expected a townie to respond to someone who was voting him. He treated sloosh as town immediately, I felt.
However sloosh's behavior on the other side of the coin has also been weird, but a little bit less so. At first I thought maybe it's just sloosh trying to solidify his reads but I can't reconcile why he seems to be so diplomatic.
"There's no one resisting killing Prom" he says while resisting killing Prom.
On January 15 2013 06:15 wherebugsgo wrote:
no one is resisting killing Prom lol.
There is almost no resistance to either Lazer or Prom. Having to pick one isn't resistance.
He also wants to create a counter bandwagon on me, to save Prom.
On January 15 2013 06:49 wherebugsgo wrote:
I would very much like to last minute lynch zentor if possible.
##unvote
##vote MrZentor
I'll admit you've been somewhat subtle about it until recently.
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Dat HARD defending from bugs, eh?
On January 15 2013 06:53 MrZentor wrote:
In other news, why have you been hard defending Prom all game, WBG?
Instant backtrack, I dont even...
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Trying to create counter bandwagons and attacking his bandwagon are definitely hard defending.
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KILL LAZER MONKEY SO SCUM OMG
There, I've hard defended every other player in the game. Gratz
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rofl I'm not going to even argue against this.
You guys can lynch who you want.
Also lol @ hopeless. sadly I can't tell whether you're scum trying to appear reasonable or whether you're simply town. Sigh.
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On January 15 2013 07:41 Hopeless1der wrote:
KILL LAZER MONKEY SO SCUM OMG
There, I've hard defended every other player in the game. Gratz
Except that you haven't been subtly defending them all game, and all the other players in the game aren't in danger of being lynched like Prom.
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On January 15 2013 07:07 slOosh wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2013 05:37 Xatalos wrote:
Btw Sloosh, since you're here. Are you avoiding me or something? You haven't answered me for a long time, why? Show nested quote +On January 14 2013 15:37 slOosh wrote:
Sleeping now, and if it isn't clear I think Prom is scum and prefer him over Xatalos. An answer is implicit in the fact that I've dropped you to go after Prom. There's currently nothing to be gained from me interacting with you unless you have some insight into Prom that you have yet to share.
Hmm. I can accept that you're focusing on Prom now, close to the lynch, but why did you totally ignore me earlier in the day after you made your case on me? Even though I responded to your case and questioned you about that? It just feels weird that you would drop any interest you had in your #1 scumread after making a new case. Were you even serious about that case on me?
I think Prom has a chance of flipping scum. Not as good as Jay, or even as good as someone like Hopeless (sheeping, no commitment, weak reasoning) or WBG (sheeping, weak stances, wanting to lynch me despite saying I'm hard to read when he gave Jay a free pass for the same thing). But he's a far better lynch than Lazermonkey:
- Giving up on supersoft because the wagon didn't get supported well enough (literally saying "nobody has me as town" as his reasoning)
- Basing his scumread on Lazermonkey partly on exaggerating his "lie" that wasn't actually a lie - it was just something he said he'd do but failed to achieve, and nothing indicates he had a malicious intent here
- Lots of opinion switches with questionable reasoning, sheeping the flow of the thread
- Only targeting "easy" lynch candidates and avoiding having to actually push his reads
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