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Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
January 14 2013 20:30 GMT
#661
On January 15 2013 02:22 supersoft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2013 01:30 thrawn2112 wrote:
super, I challenge the spot you've given hopeless on that list. go through his filter and pay attention to what his scumreads are, and when and why he decides to push them. his story doesnt make sense


hopeless doesnt give me intel.
I think scumteam is somewhere between
wbg/prom or sloosh/lazer


is what you said. Not really the same thing at all. But thanks for clarifying it.
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wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
January 14 2013 20:30 GMT
#662
also I agree that grush afking right now is bothersome.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
January 14 2013 20:31 GMT
#663
On January 15 2013 04:47 Promethelax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2013 04:42 Xatalos wrote:
On January 15 2013 04:29 Promethelax wrote:
wow, seriously, those are your reads? Terrible.

You said that you had not read the thread while simultaneously building a case on someone who had just been cased and calling him the scummiest person in the thread. That is deeply troubling and very scummy.

There is nothing you have done in this game that makes you feel like a townie. This is a big problem for me since in LVIII I had had you down as quite green thank you so very much.

Your case on jay is weak and in many ways I feel the Chezinu rule applies to him. He is such a weak player that someone making him their main target (if he is town) is very likely to be scum.


I agree that his sheep vote on supersoft was scummy, but that's pretty much the only thing. There are many reasons for him to be town though:

- Kush's attention-grabbing entrance to the thread
- Kush's overall anti-town and scummy behaviour - suicidal for any actual scum
- Lazermonkey has been very active and made sense even under heavy pressure

That last argument is just WIFOM as well.


Those points you have for Kush are great. If it wasn't Kush. Did you read WC? Or any of his scum games? Many of us have while you haven't and I know you probably don't like being told you don't know what you are talking about but you have no idea what you are talking about. Kush plays that way as either alignment.

LM has made sense? What does that even mean. You agree with his case on jay? You think SS is scum and Thrawn town? You deeply believe that hopeless is retarded? Please explain this.


I read the beginning of Kush's filter in Witchcraft. I have to agree that Kush isn't afraid of attention as scum either. BUT there's a big difference: in Witchcraft Kush is pretty reasonable and doesn't actually play anti-town at all. At least I'm not seeing it. Here he begins the game by grabbing negative attention and setting himself up for a lynch (or at least losing sympathy points). He also keeps doing anti-town/scummy things, while in Witchcraft he keeps discussing reasonably and doesn't slip anything scummy-looking. Or can you show me wrong?

I agree with Lazermonkey on Jay and Thrawn. I disagree on supersoft and Hopeless. You can read what I think of them in my filter. What I meant is that he doesn't freak out, OMGUS, dodge questions or anything like that. He is calm and makes sense even in such a bad spot.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
January 14 2013 20:32 GMT
#664
But I think he is town, at first I thought the green starsenses was different than his usual bread crumb but I went and looked.

LVII
On September 08 2012 07:28 grush57 wrote:
AWWW SHEEEEEEEEEET.
I KNOW WHY TOAD CALLED ME SCUM
I FORGOT
STARSENSES.


Hero
On December 11 2012 06:00 grush57 wrote:
Adam, Tunkeg, Vivax and a vet is my bet on scumteam.
STARSENSES.


LVIII
On January 05 2013 06:29 grush57 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2013 06:17 Hopeless1der wrote:
On January 05 2013 06:15 grush57 wrote:
Okay I just read the thread.. I'm going to go throw a vote on Hopeless.
##Vote: Hopeless1der

Comment on Palmar, Marv or BC in the meantime

Palmar- He was trolling and now he is being super op scumhunter. Now he is a good player so is that necissarily town?Idk, I don't think marv is scum but palmar has been wrong every time I played with him so far.
Marv- He just claimed cop, and I don't think eh should be lynched on D1.
BC- He is pretty inactive but he sais he will be back soon. He is a mega vet so I don't think we should lynch him while there are other MUCH MORE SCUMNMY LURKERS LIKE YOU HOPESS

Get hopeless. Get hopeless. Get hopeless. Get hopeless. Get hopeless. Get hopeless. Get hopeless.
Get hopeless. Get hopeless. Get hopeless. Get hopeless. Get hopeless. Get hopeless. Get hopeless.
Get hopeless. Get hopeless. Get hopeless. Get hopeless. Get hopeless. Get hopeless. Get hopeless.
[b]Get hopeless. Get hopeless. Get hopeless. Get hopeless. Get hopeless. Get hopeless. Get hopeless.[/b]
Get hopeless. Get hopeless. Get hopeless. Get hopeless. Get hopeless. Get hopeless. Get hopeless.

ALSO,

STARSENSES


so I'd say he is town. Just annoying not here town.

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Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
January 14 2013 20:33 GMT
#665
okay, gone for real now.
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
January 14 2013 20:37 GMT
#666
yo hapa, can you give me a list of past games of yours I can read?

Also I just noticed you went to school in MI :p cool, I'm a MI native haha.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
January 14 2013 20:37 GMT
#667
Btw Sloosh, since you're here. Are you avoiding me or something? You haven't answered me for a long time, why?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
January 14 2013 20:39 GMT
#668
sloosh is avoiding lazer, too :-)
if lazer flips scum, scum may aswell surrender this. after that we can focus on the SK
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 14 2013 20:41 GMT
#669
We should be lynching prom today. Here's his first post:

On January 13 2013 20:09 Promethelax wrote:
Lol at bugs, I'm scum because I was at work when the game started.

Is there some unspoken rule about us not asking grush to give us his town breadcrumb? Because that is all I want from him right now.

For those of you who haven't played with Kush assume he is similar to chezinu but without either the class or the ability to find scum. He is a troll who will troll all game long but it
Isn't too hard to get a read on. I would like to hear both Hapa and thrawn's opinions of Kush. They know how to read him, as do I.

Super, are you town?

Zentor, can I expect you to be useful This game or should I put you into the troll column?

Jay, what's your read of zentor?

Slopsh, opinions on anyone who doesn't have a million point scrabble name.


This post is extremely trolly and contains no actual attempt at scumhunting.

Here's a post that provokes the thread into suspicion of hopeless without actually commenting on hopeless himself:

On January 14 2013 09:29 Promethelax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2013 07:24 Hopeless1der wrote:
so uhh..i guess /afk


Waht about this? Two hours after his last post and two hours ago without posting anything else. Is this scum hopeless or scummy town hopeless?


The timing of his unvote on super was just awkward and terrible. it made no sense from a town-prom perspective. he claimed that he no longer wanted to lynch super because super was no longer a realistic lynch.... which was completely untrue. i felt a tiny bit of momentem starting to swing away from a super lynch, but he still had 3 votes. Why would a town prom give up on his top scumread in that situation? it reads more like "i'm starting to feel like this mislynch isn't happening, better unvote" than "i'm town and i want to lynch my scumread but i can't."

He keeps playing the victim card with stuff like this:

On January 14 2013 16:12 Promethelax wrote:

I care about who is going to be lynched. I just know that I won't be able to push SS through (it also doesn't help that the other scummiest dude in the thread buddied my case onto him) and after looking at his town play I am less sure than I was.


On January 14 2013 16:25 Promethelax wrote:
because Hopeless is bad at pushing lynches and Lazer is scummy as shit sheep. That leaves me to push it and, for whatever reason, no one has me as town. If there is consolidation it seems clear that Bugs, You, Thrawn will consolidate away from SS. I don't really want my vote to be a waste today and I have other scum reads tp pressure who I think have a better chance of being lynched and as good (or even better) chance of flipping scum.

I decided my tunnel wasn't so hot and there were better things for me to do day one than pressure a vet who is good as town.


On January 15 2013 04:17 Promethelax wrote:
Seriously, when did I become sheepable? Although Lazer is the best lynch candidate today, look at his defense, he simply calls the cases against himself baaad (like a sheep) and doesn't contribute anything new. The fact that his 'case' is on jay isn't helping either.



also, dumdum goggles
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
grush57
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2582 Posts
January 14 2013 20:46 GMT
#670
Sorry guys, school and sleeping takes a big part of not being here, the first thing I do is read the thread :D.
I think both Lazermonkey and Prome are pretty scummy, in fact they might be bussing eachother.
"Every thing is either simply awful or awfully simple." | "Weaklings can't pick... their way of death."
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 14 2013 20:47 GMT
#671
On January 15 2013 05:26 Promethelax wrote:
Thrawn, stop being a silly. I'm not scum.


In LVIII, I was scum and prom was town. I tunneled prom for a long time. His reaction to that was extreme suspicion of me because he thought there was no way I was dumb enough to think he is town. This game, the fact that i'm calling him scum doesn't seem to concern him as far as the issue of my alignment goes. In LVII he spent a lot of time defending my accusations and forcing me to explain them over and over again so he could figure out my alignment.

##unvote
##vote: promthelax
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
January 14 2013 20:48 GMT
#672
I'm not liking a Lazermonkey lynch. He looks like a replacement who's lost and not fully caught up. It's not alignment indicative, and lynching him seems like a coin-flip at best.

Right now, we need to lynch the guy that's actually done something scummy - Promethelax. He was convinced SuperSoft was scum all game, then merrily decided he was happy with Xatalos + Ruuch being dead, then now is onto Lazermonkey for being a sheep.

On January 14 2013 09:26 Promethelax wrote:
hapa, aren't you pressuring weak lynch bait in Xat and Ru? Speaking of players who have vanished for a while what about SloOsh? Why isn't he on your list?


He earlier questioned me for going after lynch-bait, and now his top three scumreads are perhaps the biggest lynch-bait in the game.

He needs to hang today.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
January 14 2013 20:49 GMT
#673
I don't think both Prom and LM are scum together. Doesn't make much sense for a scum Prom to leave his vote so early on a scumbuddy.
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
January 14 2013 20:51 GMT
#674
On January 15 2013 05:37 wherebugsgo wrote:
yo hapa, can you give me a list of past games of yours I can read?

Also I just noticed you went to school in MI :p cool, I'm a MI native haha.


Go Blue! Yep I graduated from UofM a year ago... and I already miss being up there =/

As for my game history, you can find most of it in the TL Mafia Database:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=390080

The only two games NOT listed in there are British Mini Mafia and Witchcraft Mini Mafia, and I was town in both games:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=386816&user=47519
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=391112&user=47519
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 14 2013 20:52 GMT
#675
whoops spelling erroe

##vote: promethelax
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
January 14 2013 20:54 GMT
#676
oh right, I keep forgetting we have that. lol.

well, I'm going to continue asking people that way anyway :p

One thing I want to mention right away about Promethelax is that I found his interactions with sloosh very weird. Basically he was voted by sloosh at some point iirc, but he didn't respond in a way I expected a townie to respond to someone who was voting him. He treated sloosh as town immediately, I felt.

However sloosh's behavior on the other side of the coin has also been weird, but a little bit less so. At first I thought maybe it's just sloosh trying to solidify his reads but I can't reconcile why he seems to be so diplomatic.
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
January 14 2013 20:55 GMT
#677
@ SuperSoft

You were really down with a Prome lynch last night - what happened? You had kush down as super-town, and I can't figure out how you downgraded Lazermonkey so far to the point of being a lynch candidate.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
grush57
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2582 Posts
January 14 2013 20:55 GMT
#678
Alright I'll get on the prome train.
Choo Choo!
##Unvote
##Vote: Promethelax
"Every thing is either simply awful or awfully simple." | "Weaklings can't pick... their way of death."
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
January 14 2013 21:00 GMT
#679
On January 15 2013 05:54 wherebugsgo wrote:
oh right, I keep forgetting we have that. lol.

well, I'm going to continue asking people that way anyway :p

One thing I want to mention right away about Promethelax is that I found his interactions with sloosh very weird. Basically he was voted by sloosh at some point iirc, but he didn't respond in a way I expected a townie to respond to someone who was voting him. He treated sloosh as town immediately, I felt.

However sloosh's behavior on the other side of the coin has also been weird, but a little bit less so. At first I thought maybe it's just sloosh trying to solidify his reads but I can't reconcile why he seems to be so diplomatic.


Yeah that whole convo that SloOsh outlined earlier? The guy goes from "I can't find a reason that SuperSoft is town, and I don't want to lynch Xata today" to "Oh I'm totes down with a Xata + Ruuch lynch" over that short convo.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
January 14 2013 21:02 GMT
#680
@ Xata and Lazer

Are you guys around? I need your input on all of this.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
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