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On January 14 2013 04:36 wherebugsgo wrote:
Why is sloosh a better lynch than kush?
Slosh hasn't been around much but he's one of the few players who put effort into pushing a scumread.
that case on xatalos would be VERY easy to make, and it comes at an opportunistic time to make such a case. and apart from that, sloosh doesn't have opinions on other stuff happening in the thread, much like yourself
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super... just because i'm pressuring wbg does not mean i won't change my mind and go back to sloosh. chill
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super: rather than talking about how much we both want to lynch sloosh I'd rather us talk about wbg in the meantime
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thrawn's new and improved lynch list:
sloosh/wbg/hapa/hopeless
i'm about 50% confident that randomly lynching into that list will lynch scum
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On January 14 2013 13:33 supersoft wrote:
what kind of vet are you lol. i cant work with you if you follow the conversation in slow-motion.
the scum kind
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On January 14 2013 09:44 Promethelax wrote:Thrawn, me no likey your list. Explain it to me, why are each of those four present. Would you really be comfortable lynching any of them? Why do you have a town read on Lazer and SS?
you could look through my filter and easily figure out why most of the people are on that list. maybe not hapa, that was "sorta" a random name.
and how are you equating that list to me having town reads on lazer and/or super? that doesn't make any sense stop being silly
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On January 14 2013 09:45 Hapahauli wrote:Show nested quote +On January 14 2013 09:37 thrawn2112 wrote:
thrawn's new and improved lynch list:
sloosh/wbg/hapa/hopeless
i'm about 50% confident that randomly lynching into that list will lynch scum Why do you think I'm scum? You've been talking a ton about how you think my play is "off," but you haven't substantiated it at all.
eh, you or hopeless are the wildcards on that list. both of you, and especially you, are based on some tentative association theory stuff going on in my head that i'd rather not discuss atm. and wtf? i've been talking a ton about how your play is off? you misquote me sir, explain plz
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On January 14 2013 09:48 slOosh wrote:Show nested quote +On January 14 2013 09:44 Promethelax wrote:
And as to the case on Xatalos, have you looked at his play in Paranoia? (SloOsh you get to answer this one as well). Hapa I'll tell you what I think after the answer to this.
I looked at his play from Paranoia and a bunch of other ones too, and this game's play looked nothing like his play in former games, either town or scum, which was the cause of the "second guessing" comment I started with. Do you think his meta indicates something about his alignment, particularly his drastic change in playstyle?
the part in bold is a lie
On January 13 2013 15:22 slOosh wrote:Show nested quote +On January 13 2013 14:38 thrawn2112 wrote:On January 13 2013 14:36 slOosh wrote:
Ok, enough second guessing, my case is gonna be on Xatalos. People should read up on his filter before reading my case so they can better look at it objectively. Next post will be case. you said enough second guessing, what were your other thoughts about before deciding on xatalos? "Maybe Xatalos is really really weird town" was my conflicting thought.
the second quote (which came first) suggests that sloosh is completely unfamiliar with xatalos' play, while the first quote suggests that he'd done extensive meta research before making his big xatalos case.
the second quote suggests that slOosh's "second guessing" was due to him trying to decide if xata is scum or weird town, and the first quote suggests that slOosh's "second guessing" was due to meta arguments.
##unvote
##Vote:slOosh
fuck, i don't know which scum i should vote for lol
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completely unfamiliar with xata's play =/= done extensive meta research
those are like 99% mutually exclusive
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in case anyone is confused about how this is a lie, i'll repost and explain in further detail
On January 14 2013 15:00 thrawn2112 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 14 2013 09:48 slOosh wrote:On January 14 2013 09:44 Promethelax wrote:
And as to the case on Xatalos, have you looked at his play in Paranoia? (SloOsh you get to answer this one as well). Hapa I'll tell you what I think after the answer to this.
I looked at his play from Paranoia and a bunch of other ones too, and this game's play looked nothing like his play in former games, either town or scum, which was the cause of the "second guessing" comment I started with. Do you think his meta indicates something about his alignment, particularly his drastic change in playstyle? the part in bold is a lieShow nested quote +On January 13 2013 15:22 slOosh wrote:On January 13 2013 14:38 thrawn2112 wrote:On January 13 2013 14:36 slOosh wrote:
Ok, enough second guessing, my case is gonna be on Xatalos. People should read up on his filter before reading my case so they can better look at it objectively. Next post will be case. you said enough second guessing, what were your other thoughts about before deciding on xatalos? "Maybe Xatalos is really really weird town" was my conflicting thought. the second quote (which came first) suggests that sloosh is completely unfamiliar with xatalos' play, while the first quote suggests that he'd done extensive meta research before making his big xatalos case. the second quote suggests that slOosh's "second guessing" was due to him trying to decide if xata is scum or weird town, and the first quote suggests that slOosh's "second guessing" was due to meta arguments. ##unvote
##Vote:slOoshfuck, i don't know which scum i should vote for lol
note that BOTH of the bolded statements I quoted sloosh are referencing a comment he made about how he was second guessing his read on Xata. Hwen he first made that 2nd guess comment I asked him to explain it. He said that his second guessing was due to him thinking that xata might just be really really weird town. The second time slOosh explains his 2nd guessing comment he says it was because of conflicting/confusing meta ideas.
If someone says "PLayer X is either scum or really really weird town," this implies that they feel they are too unfamiliar with that player's playstyle to be able to differintiate between scum and weird town. This obviously does not make sense if slOosh had gone through Xata's previous games.
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sloosh I don't see what's necessarily scummy about the stuff you pointed out. people can have conflicting alignment connection theory ideas if they don't know who is scum
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On January 14 2013 15:28 Hapahauli wrote:##Vote XatalosNo idea why I haven't done this yet. Moving on:
@ ThrawnThe stuff on SloOsh doesn't make any sense. The second quote only suggests that he's relatively unfamiliar with his play, and not completely unfamiliar. The quotes make perfect sense with one another. Also, why are you chainsaw defending Xata? You were suspicious of him earlier... Show nested quote +On January 13 2013 11:54 thrawn2112 wrote:
the reasons I think xatalos could be scum
he's defending kush.... scum do that a lot
he's pushing jay.....scum do that a lot
he's participating in a lot of discussion that isn't related to scumhunting, it looks like he's arguing for the sake of arguing
i don't detect real suspicion in any of his posts
he's spending way too much time defending people and I don't think he's actually suspicious of anything And now you're busy chainsaw defending him. Do you think Xata is town? Because he hasn't appeared in any of your "lynch lists"
Show nested quote +On January 14 2013 14:48 thrawn2112 wrote:On January 14 2013 09:45 Hapahauli wrote:On January 14 2013 09:37 thrawn2112 wrote:
thrawn's new and improved lynch list:
sloosh/wbg/hapa/hopeless
i'm about 50% confident that randomly lynching into that list will lynch scum Why do you think I'm scum? You've been talking a ton about how you think my play is "off," but you haven't substantiated it at all. eh, you or hopeless are the wildcards on that list. both of you, and especially you, are based on some tentative association theory stuff going on in my head that i'd rather not discuss atm. and wtf? i've been talking a ton about how your play is off? you misquote me sir, explain plz Do discuss this, because you're suggesting lynching me on mysterious preflip "associations", which is absolutely retarded. Oh as for the "off" stuff, I confused one of MrZ's posts with one of yours. Too many open tabs, and too little sleep
idk about xata atm. there's been stuff in his filter that goes both ways. but the amount of stuff that might make him scum is nowhere near as large as stuff I have on my top scumreads.
and no, I'm not suggesting lynching you. did I say that?
like, fuck. i'm going to start keeping tally of how many times you misquote/say things that aren't true
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On January 14 2013 15:35 slOosh wrote:Show nested quote +On January 14 2013 15:32 thrawn2112 wrote:
sloosh I don't see what's necessarily scummy about the stuff you pointed out. people can have conflicting alignment connection theory ideas if they don't know who is scum Yea but there is a basis for each conclusion you make. Maybe a certain post makes you think a player is more townie than you thought, maybe a certain case makes you think a player is more scummy than you thought. Prom swapped and I'm saying there isn't anything to base that swap, which is a scum thing to do, because they already know the alignments and can screw up like that. Do you see sufficient reason for Prom to decide to swap his read like that?
I don't see the "swapping" you are talking about. Like I said earlier, when people are town they can have conflicting reads because they don't know alignments.
Are you making an issue of him disliking your case on xata, and at the same time thinking xata is scummy? I don't see how those have to be conflicting ideas. He could have thought that xata is scum, but that you made a weak case. Is that a scummy thing to think? I don't see it.
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On January 14 2013 15:47 supersoft wrote:
hehe thrawn gj so far on sloosh and wbg. but i see now that bothvare no good lynchtargets for today. we'll figure out their side d2-d3. the fun part about good players is, that they get shot early if they're town.
+ the lynchflip gives us the info we need.
right now i think we should kill prom - what do you think.
uh....idk. he seems to be wearing dumb dumb goggles this game and that's unusual. but like....
i actually think i might see what you're getting at by suggesting they aren't good lynch targets, and that prom is a good lynch, but i disagree with that reasoning.
i'll look through his stuff again though
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On January 14 2013 15:44 Promethelax wrote:Show nested quote +On January 14 2013 14:46 thrawn2112 wrote:On January 14 2013 09:44 Promethelax wrote:Thrawn, me no likey your list. Explain it to me, why are each of those four present. Would you really be comfortable lynching any of them? Why do you have a town read on Lazer and SS? you could look through my filter and easily figure out why most of the people are on that list. maybe not hapa, that was "sorta" a random name. and how are you equating that list to me having town reads on lazer and/or super? that doesn't make any sense stop being silly you have a 'not willing to lynch today read on them. I'd call it the same thing basically. I myself have a six man don't lynch list a three man null list and a four man lynch list. My lynch list is just much better than yours.
prom that is the most dumbest shit i've seen in this thread so far, and on so many levels
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On January 14 2013 16:27 Promethelax wrote:Show nested quote +On January 14 2013 16:22 thrawn2112 wrote:On January 14 2013 15:44 Promethelax wrote:On January 14 2013 14:46 thrawn2112 wrote:On January 14 2013 09:44 Promethelax wrote:Thrawn, me no likey your list. Explain it to me, why are each of those four present. Would you really be comfortable lynching any of them? Why do you have a town read on Lazer and SS? you could look through my filter and easily figure out why most of the people are on that list. maybe not hapa, that was "sorta" a random name. and how are you equating that list to me having town reads on lazer and/or super? that doesn't make any sense stop being silly you have a 'not willing to lynch today read on them. I'd call it the same thing basically. I myself have a six man don't lynch list a three man null list and a four man lynch list. My lynch list is just much better than yours. prom that is the most dumbest shit i've seen in this thread so far, and on so many levels really now? You wouldn't call being unwilling to lynch someone is soft calling the town? I am unwilling to lynch outside of my fourman list. This is becasue I find those four scummiest parts of that is elimination (town reads) and part of that is their scumminess. People who are not them are more townine.
prom this is so dumb!
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i'm near unwilling to believe the alternative
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On January 14 2013 16:33 Promethelax wrote:
Well, in that case why have you been pushing me as dumb instead of scum?
Also comments on my case on Lazer since I am in fact town and think he is scum.
i'm not anymore lol
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because i decided to stare into the soul of dumb and what I saw was not in fact dumb, it was scum
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