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jaybrundage
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On January 16 2013 00:26 Xatalos wrote: Actually you're right, grush isn't looking good so far. But why didn't you write posts like this during D1 at all? All you achieved was basically a weak counter-vote on me and nothing after that. Mostly you were either lurking or responding to my pressure, with some random slight suspicions mixed in. Also, do you want to lynch me or grush now? I'm fine with my read of you day one. I would happy lynch either of you cause i think you both could easily flip scum. I explained why I didnt post much day one in my filter. @LazerMonkey Whos your scum reads atm. Are you still convinced that SS and me are scum? | ||
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jaybrundage
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On January 15 2013 23:39 Lazermonkey wrote: Oh, nvm. Didn't see you wrote scum team, thought you meant Vigi. Well, I'm cool with that then : ). SS had this scum team picked out all on the basis that Prom would flip town it just seems. But I hes going off to much of that assumtion. All Prom flipping town implies is that hes fucking town and we mislynched. SS is basing a huge amount of his reads on if the scum team all piled onto Prom so that Lazor didnt get lynched. Have you considered that there is the possiblity of both Prom and lazer being town? While I agree that Kush did some scummy shit. I don't think that lazer has done anything really scummy. While he did push me, Which scum love to do. He also never played with me before so had no idea my playstyle. On January 15 2013 07:18 supersoft wrote: Promethelax (5): slOosh, Hapahauli, thrawn2112, grush57, MrZentor + Lazer = 6 = majority. sloosh Lazer and Zentor are scum if Prome flips town. And he will flip town. mark my words now. I called it. i think part of SS being so convinced is that he has alot of confirmation bias. He seems absolutely convinced of his reads no matter what. Maybe this is just that im a bad mafia player because im rarely convinced of my reads and people call me scummy for it. I cant see SS being scum either tho just because hes too rash and bold for scum. I just feel like Lazor being a set lynch tmw is a mistake. Oh and in regards to Xatalos's case on bugs. I think bugs has played pretty townie so far. He defended me cause he knows how i play. If he was scum he could of easily set me up for a mislynch. I am always scared of his scum play But so far i got town on bugs. | ||
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On January 16 2013 08:03 iamperfection wrote: what do you mean just because he was somewhat friendly to his scum read. Thats pretty weak thrawn. Hell in liquid city i talked openly to confirmed scum in the thread as town. Or he just misread it. While i think is reply is not mean in anyway. I dont find it scummy to talk civilly to players regardless of there alignment. And Iamperfection (ziggler) can you give your thoughts on (grush,Xatalos) | ||
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jaybrundage
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But its mostly just a test case to see if WBG is scummy. When WBG starts putting pressure on him he OMGUS's but ends up backing off and saying lets just lynch Hopeless1der instead. I agree that Hopeless hasn't contributed much at all this game and that he does look scummy. But the fact that Sloosh wants to vote for hopeless seems really suspect to me. Why would scum vote for there partner when there are other lynch candidates today. He could of picked out of alot of different people like grush lazer. It doesn't make any sense that he would pick someone that would be his partner. It feels like Sloosh is taking the easy way out. He didnt feel confident to try to lych town WBG so he backs off and decided to go for Hopeless again. @Xatalos Its called doing shit man you should try it. Also did you not read my grush case i still feel he's scum. But as of yet there has been no support for lynching him and he has yet to post anything much since then. Don't think I have forgotten you. While your posting hasn't sucked as much dick as did before. Doesn't mean I dont think your not scum. ##Vote SloOsh | ||
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On January 16 2013 13:58 thrawn2112 wrote: ##Vote: Lazermonkey Do you think that one of SloOsh or WBG are scum? You seem to avoid the entire interaction between them. Also whats your read on Hopeless1der? | ||
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On January 17 2013 05:09 wherebugsgo wrote: slOosh's argument is "let's not try to figure out the whole scumteam at once, since we don't know whether there are 3 or 4 scum in this game." Instead, let's do what slOosh is doing: let's sow doubt, not actually scumhunt, and come back into the thread every few hours to whine about something minor/irrelevant. So lets lynch SlOosh then he seems more likely to be scum then hopeless. Also it doesn't make sense for him to try to push hopeless if they are indeed scum. He could of easily put a vote on Lazermonkey instead for instance. Sloosh has been wishy washy and hesitant to push his scum reads. The reasoning being that as scum he doesnt want to straight up push WBG unless he can get some support for it. He completly backs down from it. Also Grush where the hell have you been. You have been lurky and scummy all game. You never posted reasons for your vote. And you show a disinterest in helping town. I would also be willing to lynch grush today over hopeless. It seemed that he dropped of peoples radar. | ||
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Do you still have me as a scum read. Also between Sloosh or WBG who do you think is scum. | ||
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On January 17 2013 05:25 slOosh wrote: How is that a scummy thing, if I think hopeless has a better chance of flipping scum than him? Your case on hopeless was basically. Not hard defending prom and gave to much reasoning on explaining his early vote on grush. Like really? But the thing about your WBG case is that you based some of it on his reaction to voting Hopeless. You didnt think he would vote hopeless because they were scum buddies. But he had absolutly no problem voting hopeless. Given his reaction do you still think WBG is scum. Also what's your opinion on grush. Hes way scummier then hopeless and lurkes more too. Also thrawn you seem to not be pushing your own scum reads. Going from LM who you seemed pretty convinced was scum last night (sheeping SS) To going from your initial vote on LM today to Sloosh. (sheeping WBG) Do you not feel confident in making your own reads? | ||
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On January 17 2013 05:34 Xatalos wrote: By the way, where do you stand on me right now? Still scum? You had your vote on me for the whole D1 but haven't talked much at all about me ever since. Now it looks like you're just going for Sloosh, grush or Hopeless. Not that I disagree with those players being scummy, but what caused this change of heart? I'm going for players I think are scum that can get lynched today. My read on you is null/slightly scummy. But there are people I think have a better chance to flip scum then you so i am pursuing my reads on them. Also I don't think we should lynch hopeless if sloosh is scum. I dont see hopeless flipping scum too. | ||
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On January 17 2013 05:47 Xatalos wrote: Hmmm. Your recent posts have been townish so maybe you actually are town... What's your stance on WBG? WBG i think is town. Both Sloosh being scum and WBG being scum makes no damn sense. Also as i said earlier scum WBG would have no need to defend me. He would just use me as early mislynch foder. Day 1 is always tricky for me. But i find i can pick up more steam as the game goes along. | ||
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On January 17 2013 06:54 grush57 wrote: Nvm Ill go slooshie ##Unvote ##Vote: slOosh Are you really gonna vote no reasoning. No nothing. I think Sloosh is scum. Is this your bus attempt? | ||
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On January 17 2013 06:09 Lazermonkey wrote: Read his filter and you shall find the answer! Yea musta missed that. But it still doesn't explain why scum sloosh would be voting scum hopeless. I only can see it as scum sloosh voting town hopeless | ||
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On January 17 2013 06:14 Xatalos wrote: Are you basing your townread of WBG on Sloosh flipping scum? What if Sloosh is town? Is WBG still town then? And it's not that unlikely for scum WBG to say something in your defense... Almost everyone seemed to think of you as just a lynchbait at the time. I had a town read on WBG since day one. I dont think sloosh is town for all the reasons i posted. Last time i played with WBG he defended me day 1. And i thought it might be a scum move to defend me and get me to think he was town so we ended up lynching him eventually (i mostly blame palmar lol) So given what i know I have a town read on him cause his play is similar. | ||
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On January 17 2013 09:08 Hopeless1der wrote: Question the first: Why did Hapa vote for Ruuch? Question the second: Why did I vote for Ruuch? @Lamp: Do you find my read of you suspicious, based on the posting, and circumstances surrounding the replacement, of Ruuch? By which I mean, do you think it is conceivable that I would arrive at a townread of you based on the limited information available? Ill answer these. I think both of you voting for Ruunch was stupid. It was a dumb wagon. He is a completely new at this game. Doesn't know what hes doing. His late vote was completely a null tell. He doesnt know whats scummy and whats townie. He has never had experience playing this game before. He probably felt a bit overwhelmed (hence why he later quit.) So my question to you is why did you vote Ruunch? Also Ziggler why did you decide to vote SlOosh over say WBG or LM or Hopeless? | ||
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jaybrundage
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On January 17 2013 10:26 slOosh wrote: jay, you haven't objectively commented on hopeless. Right now you have him as town because you think I'm scum. That won't do. What about his posts show that he is town? Independent of you being scum voting for hopeless. I have a null tell/leaning townieon Hopeless. He has done some scummy things earlier on. However I think more recent his posting has improved like his reasoning for voting for Ruuch when he thought he might be town does make sense. It shows reasoning and his thought process. SlOosh In the small possibility that you are town. If you could give your reads on everyone and your other scum reads as well, I know that you think Hopeless and WBG are scum is there a third party that appeals to you? We have a whole day left. The more people post and be transparent the better of a chance town has towards winning. On January 17 2013 10:26 Hopeless1der wrote: I asked the questions in that manner because my reasons were completely different than Hapa's. I was doing what little I could to save Prom, short of blowing up at the thread and calling everyone stupid, which seems to be the go-to response these days. Hapa on the other hand has been touting his scum-Prom read and all of the sudden feels its a good idea to go after Ruuch as a policy lynch. I won't deny it was a stupid wagon, but I felt it was a better to lose him than Prom. I didn't read Ruuch as scum, I read him as expendable, in comparison to Prom. Hapa trying to equate our votes as being equally scummy: + Show Spoiler + On January 17 2013 05:27 Hapahauli wrote: Yes I did. However that's only one game out of the multitude of his recent town games in which he played very aggressively. In addition, I can't rationalize his stance on iamp from a town perspective: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=392955¤tpage=52#1022 Votes Ruuch, afks for the entire night cycle, comes back and says he thinks iamperfection is town for no reasoning, then proceeds to make arguments against me based on the "assumption" of iamp being town. Furthermore, he stated that he didn't understand my reasoning for voting Ruuch, which is incredibly scummy considering that he voted Ruuch himself. is a massive load of bull. I appreciate your efforts to put words in my mouth, like my "implied" super strong town read of Prom, while simultaneously disregarding Question the First. Furthermore, the "assume you're town" was specifically TO iamperfection because he asked me to explain myself. Are you going to jump down his throat for this post?: Or does he get a free pass because he was speaking about himself? Anyways, it seems I need to look towards self-preservation ##Unvote: Lazermonkey ##Vote: SlOosh Primarily based on Ruuch's limited interactions with the thread. @Hapa given what Hopeless said. Why did you vote for Ruunch? If you thought Prom was scum? | ||
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