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wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
January 26 2013 20:53 GMT
#2026
if grush is town then why would it matter which one of you I try to kill? you're both scum.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
January 26 2013 20:56 GMT
#2030
On January 27 2013 05:55 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2013 05:50 wherebugsgo wrote:
he hasn't trolled all game.

lazer has escaped lynch like 3 times now.


It's all relative. He has sheeped his scumreads, posted contradicting statements right after each other and done other things that can't be considered not trolling. It's not as senseless in that other game, but it's far worse than anything I've seen before.

That's bothering me about Lazer too, but there are other things that make Lazer look more townish (Kush's play, Lazer's positive participation today..). And last moment vote switches rarely end well.


you never qualified why kush's play made lazer look better.

In fact, I disagreed with you and never got an answer on that.

you haven't qualified how grush playing here is "worse" relative to anything, because you haven't provided a game where grush played town in which he was more helpful than this.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
January 26 2013 20:59 GMT
#2032
like, grush is one of those players where I don't even know if you can read him based on his uselessness.

He's not an asset as town, ever. I can't remember a game in which I said, wow, I really wish grush would play like that more often.

Lazer IS normally an asset to town and he's done fuck all this game. He only became active when it was clear he was going to die. He's only really focused on defending himself prior to lylo.

iunno, maybe I'm confusing myself and running myself in circles but the meta leads me to believe grush might not be scum after all.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
January 26 2013 20:59 GMT
#2035
also lazer right now is trying to be diplomatic with everyone. :/
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
January 26 2013 21:00 GMT
#2036
On January 27 2013 05:59 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2013 05:56 wherebugsgo wrote:
On January 27 2013 05:55 Xatalos wrote:
On January 27 2013 05:50 wherebugsgo wrote:
he hasn't trolled all game.

lazer has escaped lynch like 3 times now.


It's all relative. He has sheeped his scumreads, posted contradicting statements right after each other and done other things that can't be considered not trolling. It's not as senseless in that other game, but it's far worse than anything I've seen before.

That's bothering me about Lazer too, but there are other things that make Lazer look more townish (Kush's play, Lazer's positive participation today..). And last moment vote switches rarely end well.


you never qualified why kush's play made lazer look better.

In fact, I disagreed with you and never got an answer on that.

you haven't qualified how grush playing here is "worse" relative to anything, because you haven't provided a game where grush played town in which he was more helpful than this.


That's because Kush and Lazer share the same alignment....... You need to ask that?

grush's play here is worse and more useless than anything I've seen from any other player. It's not as bad as that previous game where he was scum, but it's not like he needs to just go 100% troll once he gets under pressure. It's stupid to assume something like that.


no, because I don't think kush's play was townish!
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
January 26 2013 21:22 GMT
#2048
I don't understand, why would we care about grush changing his meta?

I've never seen someone drastically change their meta, and this is fucking grush we're talking about.

iamp might have agreed but I'm going to go check that newbie game that kush smurfed in. From what I recall his play was somewhat like what he did here.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
January 26 2013 21:25 GMT
#2050
why does kush attack hapa at the beginning of the game only to sheep someone else on a supposed MZ scumslip?

wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
January 26 2013 21:26 GMT
#2051
On January 27 2013 06:25 jaybrundage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2013 06:22 wherebugsgo wrote:
I don't understand, why would we care about grush changing his meta?

I've never seen someone drastically change their meta, and this is fucking grush we're talking about.

iamp might have agreed but I'm going to go check that newbie game that kush smurfed in. From what I recall his play was somewhat like what he did here.

Because your assuming Grush cant change a fucking bit. If he's scum then all he has to do is play useless and get away scot free


occam's razor is that he didn't change, because people don't voluntarily change their meta.

it's not that easy to change your meta, and I seriously doubt a player like grush would have the foresight to do so.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
January 26 2013 22:07 GMT
#2058
is he town in witchcraft? he posted a lot more than he did here even in the short amount of time he was alive.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
January 26 2013 22:11 GMT
#2060
why does jay not have a preference, wtf

have you ever had a preference this game?
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
January 26 2013 22:15 GMT
#2063
question xata:

why have you not moved your vote?
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
January 26 2013 22:16 GMT
#2065
On January 27 2013 07:15 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2013 07:07 wherebugsgo wrote:
is he town in witchcraft? he posted a lot more than he did here even in the short amount of time he was alive.


Scum -.- Take this seriously please. Don't you see the difference in Kush's play?


I'm not understanding what the difference is.

The two games are completely different, this game he was gone before d1 even ended.

He has a scum read on Hapa in this game but didn't vote him! He fucking voted MrZ instead.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
January 26 2013 22:19 GMT
#2067
we don't have time to meta kush BECAUSE I DISAGREE WITH YOU.

fucking hell, what do you not understand about what I just said?

I'm ready to just afk cause this game sucks. You're all fucking idiots and I hope I never have to play a game like this again.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
January 26 2013 22:20 GMT
#2068
saying someone is playing like they did before without even substantiating it is not how you fucking meta someone. jesus christ
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
January 26 2013 22:21 GMT
#2069
the games aren't even comparable because in witchcraft kush was alive much longer than here. It makes it almost worthless in terms of comparison, it's far better to compare his play to the newbie.

kush's play is a big blank in this game apart from what he said and did regarding hapa, a flipped scum.

You can draw conclusions based on lazer's play, literally everyone who died this game called lazer scum, they tried lynching him, we failed 3 times (although the second time we killed the SK so w/e)

between grush and jay it's a complete coin flip, there's almost no way I can foresee being able to tell the difference between them.

At this point your stubbornness on this matter is making me rethink that there might actually be two town among the fucktards that decided to do nothing all game, and that the RB claim on you is worth shit.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
January 26 2013 22:23 GMT
#2071
ok, what posts indicate he was serious in witchcraft and he was carefree this game?

I'm not seeing that, you're just saying it without even fucking backing it up.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
January 26 2013 22:30 GMT
#2074
On January 27 2013 07:26 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2013 07:20 wherebugsgo wrote:
saying someone is playing like they did before without even substantiating it is not how you fucking meta someone. jesus christ


Are you even reading? I said there's a difference, not playing like before. Sigh, this is just too frustrating. You even admitted that you didn't really read Witchraft by not knowing if Kush was scum or not in there. And now you're mispresenting. What the heck....


YOU ARE NOT SUBSTANTIATING YOUR READ

fuck

give me two posts that exemplify the difference and I will get my vote off lazer, otherwise I will get you lynched instead.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
January 26 2013 22:31 GMT
#2076
ok, what posts indicate he was trolling this game?!?!

I never got the feeling that kush trolled.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
January 26 2013 22:32 GMT
#2077
rofl I don't actually care anymore

gg scum

this is pathetic and really fucking frustrating. If I see anyone of you in a future game and you play like this I will tunnel the fuck out of you all, and I quite honestly don't care what anyone else says, I will get you policy lynched for being so fucking useless
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
January 26 2013 22:34 GMT
#2078
here, let's go back to grush, I'm gonna go play dota for the next 30 minutes.

if the game ends because grush is town then I'll probably just take a break before I flame you all in postgame.

##unvote
##vote grush57
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