Every man for himself Mafia

On January 08 2013 00:24 ghost_403 wrote:
Also, there is a way that everyone in the game can win at the same time. Never gonna happen, but if it does, I'll be damn impressed.

On January 08 2013 03:41 Palmar wrote:


Well that depends on what tactic the doctor takes. He can try to protect whoever he thinks the yak will kill, but he could also try to reach out to the yak and protect the yak in exchange for being turned mafia. That way they can almost guarantee a win together on day 2.

This really is every man for himself mafia, the players involved need to think how they can win the game, not how anyone else can win.

On January 08 2013 04:48 Dandel Ion wrote:

Great, now you told everybody my sick secret plan in case I roll medic.

Nvm tho, I have more sick secret plans.

€:

If yak turns the medic, he can just request protection from his new scumbuddy and shoot at anybody. Worst case, nobody dies. No-lynch or lynch, doesn't matter, just keep shooting until somebody drops.

On January 08 2013 08:03 Dandel Ion wrote:
In all seriousness, how we need to proceed:

1) No policy lynches
There's a Jester in the game. If we establish a policy, he'll just intentionally not follow it. So establishing lynch policies is useless.

2) Don't rush shit
Don't vote uselessly. Don't hammer random people.

3) Don't massclaim
It helps nobody.

4) No-lynch on day 1.
Let the yak clear out the playing field in the night. No point in lynching somebody only to have lyncher/jester win out of nowhere.
Sure, a scum lynch on day 1 would be sweet, but let's stay real.

On January 08 2013 22:37 Dandel Ion wrote:

You just shot up on my lyncher-scale and stole Toad's crown.

Why else would you feel the need to point out something that's clearly not indicative of anything, but to distance yourself from being the person by aribtarily narrowing it to a pool of people you "just" happen to not be in.

Also the part where people are more likely to think/talk about their own roles, rather than others'.

Hi lyncher.
Who's your target?

On January 08 2013 23:26 Clarity_nl wrote:
I already said, I wanna hear from Dieno first. I mean there is the small possibility that he is playing to his wincon by not posting today (somehow) but way more likely is that he just hasn't been around yet.

On January 08 2013 23:28 Dandel Ion wrote:

Looks real legit, dude.

Who is the yak then?
We could totes lynch him together!!!

On January 08 2013 23:07 iamperfection wrote:

thought you knew his role by elimination?

On January 09 2013 00:03 Dandel Ion wrote:

Maybe because i'm inexplicably smart?
I don't think you'd understand that concept though, but don't feel bad about it.

On January 08 2013 23:07 iamperfection wrote:

thought you knew his role by elimination?

On January 09 2013 00:22 Dandel Ion wrote:

Only because iamp thought I said something Clarity acually said.

On January 08 2013 23:08 iamperfection wrote:
oh thought that was dandel i assumed becasue he is the only one that normally talks

On January 09 2013 00:03 Dandel Ion wrote:

Maybe because i'm inexplicably smart?
I don't think you'd understand that concept though, but don't feel bad about it.

On January 09 2013 08:30 iamperfection wrote:

lets see how many lies we can get out of this one post

1. Dandel has no friends because he is mean

2. I read his post so thats doing something

3. He actually does feel guilty because he is scum

4. his typos are forced he is not actually posting from a phone

5. he stole the phone

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and before you ask 4 and 5 are both possible together.

On January 14 2013 02:19 gonzaw wrote:


I figured it out immediately as soon as he sent mevthe pm by reading the op lol

On January 14 2013 02:22 gonzaw wrote:



This

there was also the chance he was bullsgitting as jester

On January 14 2013 02:04 gonzaw wrote:
Hope you are happy jiexian

I even helped.you with spanish

On January 14 2013 02:28 gonzaw wrote:


Iamp yak toad jester.
As soon as toad claims antitown in thread iamp contacts him and says hes yak
then iamp does every action and toad is his proxy
tyat way just in case something goes wrong iamp is "safe" somehow
also toad could convince ahrink and medic to wastej their abilities on him(jester) while iamp is fre to jill anybody he wants

On January 14 2013 02:37 marvellosity wrote:


Does not compute. The second sentence invalidates the first.

On January 14 2013 02:41 Dandel Ion wrote:

I had my reasons
gonzaw was totes town.


btw, I don't think I'll play such a format again, I'd just be tempted to troll people all day, like I did with Jie.

On January 14 2013 02:48 Dandel Ion wrote:

Well the plan WAS not letting anybody know I was the shrink (except i told clarity when i thought he was medic), so I guess that worked out, haha

On January 14 2013 02:48 Clarity_nl wrote:


Yeah I actually made a mistake at some point telling you that dandel is the shrink, I immediately told dandel I screwed up and that when you ask he should tell you he fooled me into thinking he's the shrink.
That was like the only way to get you both on me n1 <3

On January 14 2013 02:52 gonzaw wrote:
Did you know i was pgo jiexian?

On January 14 2013 02:56 Clarity_nl wrote:


This is the exact angle I took with jiexian during n1. "eh, whatever, can't get lynched anyway so yeah, I'm yak. But idc you're not doc anyway"

:D:D

On January 14 2013 02:59 Dandel Ion wrote:

Not bad, I'd think.

yak dies pretty easily.

On January 14 2013 03:01 Dandel Ion wrote:

If you read the OP, you could also have

On January 14 2013 03:11 Clarity_nl wrote:
There is nothing anyone can say or do to make a lynch happen day 1 unless people are mentally ill.
My claim this cycle however was believable which made the townies think they could lynch scum, unfortunately they went for iamp but wcyd

On January 14 2013 03:19 Clarity_nl wrote:


Because if we had a no-lynch then I die either straight away, or a cycle later.
This was the ONLY point where town had a majority (if I were telling the truth), unless toad somehow kills iamp, in which case I still would have lost had they lynched toad.

On January 14 2013 03:21 Clarity_nl wrote:
Yes, toad, but you cannot do that as town. Voting anything but a no lynch during day 1 in this setup is anti town, there is no way around it. That's why I suggested the fourth townie in the setup. So there can be a lynch day 1.

Jiexian, playing the way I did was the only conceivable way that I could have won, if you can explain a different way I could have handled it, I'm all ears.

edit: no, they're not, gonzaw was a lynch candidate too, he was just a weak one and I couldn't convince dandel

On January 14 2013 03:27 Toadesstern wrote:

well he saw mafia was going to win because you died, he knew he was the lyncher (= not a VT) => no way to lynch the mafia
=> mafia will shoot one more guy next night. That could be him, that could be anyone else, either way it's a mafia win from his point of view

On January 14 2013 03:29 Clarity_nl wrote:


Well, me or dandel, then the other. This was the only opportunity to lynch

Toad, I guess, but I feel the current setup is (if not scum favored) very hard for town, especially since day 1 is forced no-lynch (you can't seriously say otherwise, can you? There's a reason we no-lynched for 4 cycles)

On January 14 2013 03:35 Clarity_nl wrote:


Yeah but that feels more like a random chance kinda deal. If both sides play decently (like they did this game) then night actions won't win the game for town.

On January 14 2013 03:48 gonzaw wrote:
I hought about fakeclaiming medic to toad or something maybe to confuse him but dieno being afk a night thwre was no kp fucked that chance for me

On January 14 2013 04:58 ghost_403 wrote:

ENDGAME
just to have a proper game ending post.

IAMPERFECTION WON THE GAME
by fulfilling his wincondition of getting lynched

Role list:

• Dieno/Gonzaw, staring as the Paranoid Gun Owner
  
• Iamperfection, staring as the jester
  
• JieXian, staring as el doctor
  
• Clarity_nl, staring as center of all nightactions lyncher
  
• Dandel Ion, staring as the shrink
  
• and Toadsstern, staring as the yakuza.
  

For me and Palmar, this game was absolutely hysterical. Night 1, everyone targeted Clarity. Throughout the rest of the game, the trend continued. JX kept Toadss from dying not once, but twice. I'll post a complete night actions list at some point. Way too funny.

At any rate, GOOD GAME!!!! It was our pleasure hosting this game for you guys.

[11/01/2013 2:06:57 AM] Erik: egal, ich hab "shoot clarity and convert jieXiann" eingegeben

naja bin mal dota spielen
[12/01/2013 7:59:39 AM] Erik: hab convert jieXiann and shoot clarity eingeschickt

On January 14 2013 06:37 gonzaw wrote:
I can do nothing other than maybe fakeclaim to confuse yak/medic or try to convince yak I'm not PGO.

....not that entertaining, specially if nobody pays attention to me >_>

Also the only players that 100% bullshitted me were the other 2 townies, figure that out.


PS: I didn't know this was a PM game until I replaced in lol

On January 14 2013 06:47 Clarity_nl wrote:


I fixed it to match the bitterness I feel when reading that.

On January 15 2013 05:12 Palmar wrote:


Without full details of what went on in PMs I cannot really say much.

I do think the idea of "town has x chance of winning" is somewhat flawed, since most people wouldn't be aiming to win as town anyway.

And I still haven't found the time to sit down and actually put my thoughts into a nice big post, been very busy lately.