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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
January 07 2013 22:40 GMT
#61
On January 08 2013 06:09 gonzaw wrote:
Wow I kind of wanted to join this lol

Question: Can this setup be broken via a massclaim?

Like...everybody massclaims, then the Shrink tells the Medic (or potential medic cc's) to protect him every night, while they lynch into the cc's for the Yakuza or something like that.


The fool and the lyncher should make sure this cannot happen. Lynching the fool ends the game.
Computer says mafia
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
January 07 2013 22:41 GMT
#62
/obs please

This should be hilarious to watch
Writer@WriterYamato
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
January 07 2013 22:43 GMT
#63
On January 08 2013 05:53 JieXian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2013 04:48 Dandel Ion wrote:
On January 08 2013 03:41 Palmar wrote:
On January 08 2013 03:27 marvellosity wrote:
basically the doctor has a 1/5 chance of actually doing something useful, lol


Well that depends on what tactic the doctor takes. He can try to protect whoever he thinks the yak will kill, but he could also try to reach out to the yak and protect the yak in exchange for being turned mafia. That way they can almost guarantee a win together on day 2.

This really is every man for himself mafia, the players involved need to think how they can win the game, not how anyone else can win.

Great, now you told everybody my sick secret plan in case I roll medic.

Nvm tho, I have more sick secret plans.

€:
On January 08 2013 04:39 Clarity_nl wrote:
What happens in case of a stalemate, like say the doctor and yak meet and the nk goes through so it's 4 people left, but the other two people realize that they have so there will never be a majority. Will the host decide on a no-lynch? (since scum can kill themselves on PGO)

If yak turns the medic, he can just request protection from his new scumbuddy and shoot at anybody. Worst case, nobody dies. No-lynch or lynch, doesn't matter, just keep shooting until somebody drops.


? I thought palmar said that the yak will turn people into goons which means that they'll lose their power?

edit: nevermind my bad it's only for jester and lyncher


To be clear there is a difference between role and win condition. Yakuza only changes win condition.

a fool has no role, but he has a win condition (get lynched)

a doc has a role (protect) and a win condition (eliminate all mafia)

a lyncher has a passive role (there exists an annoying townie) and a win condition (lynch the annoying townie)

anyone turned by the yak will retain his role (if any) but his win condition will become the mafia win condition.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
January 07 2013 22:44 GMT
#64
Role PMs are going out now
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-07 22:51:31
January 07 2013 22:51 GMT
#65
Day 1

[image loading]

Trust no one...

Good luck and have fun

Computer says mafia
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
January 07 2013 22:52 GMT
#66
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
January 07 2013 22:58 GMT
#67
Hi.

I'm a miller.
A backwards poet writes inverse.
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
January 07 2013 23:00 GMT
#68
But millers are not goobley goo
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
January 07 2013 23:03 GMT
#69
In all seriousness, how we need to proceed:

1) No policy lynches
There's a Jester in the game. If we establish a policy, he'll just intentionally not follow it. So establishing lynch policies is useless.

2) Don't rush shit
Don't vote uselessly. Don't hammer random people.

3) Don't massclaim
It helps nobody.

4) No-lynch on day 1.
Let the yak clear out the playing field in the night. No point in lynching somebody only to have lyncher/jester win out of nowhere.
Sure, a scum lynch on day 1 would be sweet, but let's stay real.
A backwards poet writes inverse.
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
January 07 2013 23:16 GMT
#70
1,2,3 are good points.
A no-lynch day 1 I'm not sure about, but I'm leaning towards a yes. Two chances to end the game in favor of not-town (could be 1, I guess) and one chance to end the game in favor of town are not good odds.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
January 07 2013 23:20 GMT
#71
Just so we're clear, if the lyncher's target dies he turns vanilla town and gains the town win condition
Computer says mafia
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
January 07 2013 23:20 GMT
#72
That's a part of it.
There's also the small detail that half the players don't actually WANT to lynch scum.
So any lynches that get done would have to be supported by scum, the lyncher, or the jester. All possible outcomes are severely undesireable.

This is not a regular game. Town does not have the majority. You need to keep that in mind.
A backwards poet writes inverse.
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
January 07 2013 23:24 GMT
#73
That makes sense but unless the scum kills both 3p won't that stay the same? In that case how're we supposed to win, night actions?
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
January 07 2013 23:25 GMT
#74
kills/turns I should say
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
January 07 2013 23:27 GMT
#75
Yeah, basically the master-plan AS TOWN, is to hope for favorable nightactions.

Of course, none of us need to win as town.
Every man for himself, after all. But a bit early to talk dirty betrayal, I suppose.
A backwards poet writes inverse.
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9641 Posts
January 07 2013 23:28 GMT
#76
sup
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
January 07 2013 23:33 GMT
#77
hey iamp, wanna partner up?

I'll be the master of course, but we can negotiate you being on top from time to time.
A backwards poet writes inverse.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 07 2013 23:34 GMT
#78
I'm here but I'm playing dota
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
January 07 2013 23:36 GMT
#79
On January 08 2013 08:34 Toadesstern wrote:
I'm here but I'm playing dota

Clearly, this is not something a townie would do.
A backwards poet writes inverse.
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9641 Posts
January 07 2013 23:36 GMT
#80
oh dino is in this game hopefully he is Yakuza and forgets to send in actions
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
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