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Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-07 14:07:20
January 07 2013 14:06 GMT
#21
screw this I'm /in

Looks funny
And no, I won't hypno-Toad in a 6 player game
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
January 07 2013 14:11 GMT
#22
On January 07 2013 23:06 Clarity_nl wrote:
Errr, what am I missing, is the night action ordering "everything but the scum nk > scum nk"?
edit: I guess you mean without instantly losing the game, lol.


I have no clue what the order is. and no, the scum literally can't shoot the pgo.

assume no lynch day 1, yak yaks the doc night 1, doc protects yak, and yak scumkills the lyncher.

now it's yak+doc on scum and fool+shrink+pgo on town. Assume for god knows what reason there is another no lynch. If the doctor delivers a kill on the PGO that night, he will die and the PGO will live.

Scum literally cannot kill the PGO.
Computer says mafia
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
January 07 2013 14:15 GMT
#23
yakkity yak.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
January 07 2013 14:25 GMT
#24
On January 07 2013 23:11 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2013 23:06 Clarity_nl wrote:
Errr, what am I missing, is the night action ordering "everything but the scum nk > scum nk"?
edit: I guess you mean without instantly losing the game, lol.


I have no clue what the order is. and no, the scum literally can't shoot the pgo.

assume no lynch day 1, yak yaks the doc night 1, doc protects yak, and yak scumkills the lyncher.

now it's yak+doc on scum and fool+shrink+pgo on town. Assume for god knows what reason there is another no lynch. If the doctor delivers a kill on the PGO that night, he will die and the PGO will live.

Scum literally cannot kill the PGO.

Wait, so does the yak die if he targets the pgo?
Cause it sounds like he doesn't, but a converted mafia would?

Also, does the yakkity still die if the convert target is shrink'd?
A backwards poet writes inverse.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
January 07 2013 14:27 GMT
#25
On January 07 2013 23:25 Dandel Ion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2013 23:11 Palmar wrote:
On January 07 2013 23:06 Clarity_nl wrote:
Errr, what am I missing, is the night action ordering "everything but the scum nk > scum nk"?
edit: I guess you mean without instantly losing the game, lol.


I have no clue what the order is. and no, the scum literally can't shoot the pgo.

assume no lynch day 1, yak yaks the doc night 1, doc protects yak, and yak scumkills the lyncher.

now it's yak+doc on scum and fool+shrink+pgo on town. Assume for god knows what reason there is another no lynch. If the doctor delivers a kill on the PGO that night, he will die and the PGO will live.

Scum literally cannot kill the PGO.

Wait, so does the yak die if he targets the pgo?
Cause it sounds like he doesn't, but a converted mafia would?

Also, does the yakkity still die if the convert target is shrink'd?


Yak dies if he targets pgo

and yes, if the yak yaks a target in therapy, he just dies in vain.
Computer says mafia
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9648 Posts
January 07 2013 14:33 GMT
#26
am i not allowed in
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
January 07 2013 14:35 GMT
#27
No, nobody wants you, iamp.
A backwards poet writes inverse.
phagga
Profile Joined February 2012
Switzerland2194 Posts
January 07 2013 14:57 GMT
#28
Game sounds amazing, but I fear I won't have time

/obs if there is gonna be one
"A person who does not concern himself with politics has already made the political choice he was so anxious to spare himself: he is serving the ruling party." - Max Frisch
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 07 2013 15:00 GMT
#29
WBG, you know you want to play this game, gogo

Please let me be the Lyncher who has to lynch WBG
Please let me be the Lyncher who has to lynch WBG
Please let me be the Lyncher who has to lynch WBG

<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
January 07 2013 15:01 GMT
#30
If there is none, just make one!

Fk da police
A backwards poet writes inverse.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-07 15:11:22
January 07 2013 15:07 GMT
#31
On January 07 2013 22:59 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2013 22:52 Clarity_nl wrote:
If yakuza sacrifices to turn the PGO and the medic targets yakuza, does the yakuza die?


Yes, the yakuza's sacrifice counts as 1 KP delivered unto himself. (Fun fact, if there was a watcher in the game watching the Yak, he'd see the Yak visiting up to three targets. The night kill, the sacrifice target, and himself).


oh wait just to get this right, so he dies because he takes 2 KP while only being protected from 1? 1 protection from medic, 1 KP from selfdestruction, 1KP from PGO?
So if medic targets mafia and mafia sacs himself to turn medic into mafia it's pretty much insta-gg because mafia gets protection from selfdestruction and medic ends up being mafia?

2nd question
What happens with Jester / Lyncher if he / his target gets killed during night? Wayne with Jester because he's just dead without winning the game (correct?) but what about the Lyncher? Let's say I am the Lyncher, I have to lynch WBG and that useless scrub kills himself at night by targeting the PGO. I don't win the game because I didn't lynch him but am I still in the game?
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
January 07 2013 15:09 GMT
#32
Pretty much, yeah.
A backwards poet writes inverse.
ghost_403
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1825 Posts
January 07 2013 15:24 GMT
#33
On January 08 2013 00:07 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2013 22:59 Palmar wrote:
On January 07 2013 22:52 Clarity_nl wrote:
If yakuza sacrifices to turn the PGO and the medic targets yakuza, does the yakuza die?


Yes, the yakuza's sacrifice counts as 1 KP delivered unto himself. (Fun fact, if there was a watcher in the game watching the Yak, he'd see the Yak visiting up to three targets. The night kill, the sacrifice target, and himself).


oh wait just to get this right, so he dies because he takes 2 KP while only being protected from 1? 1 protection from medic, 1 KP from selfdestruction, 1KP from PGO?
So if medic targets mafia and mafia sacs himself to turn medic into mafia it's pretty much insta-gg because mafia gets protection from selfdestruction and medic ends up being mafia?

Not quite insta-gg, but pretty close. Yes, the medic can stop the yak from dying as a result of his night actions.


2nd question
What happens with Jester / Lyncher if he / his target gets killed during night? Wayne with Jester because he's just dead without winning the game (correct?) but what about the Lyncher? Let's say I am the Lyncher, I have to lynch WBG and that useless scrub kills himself at night by targeting the PGO. I don't win the game because I didn't lynch him but am I still in the game?

I'll defer to Palmar, but it doesn't sound to me like he met his wincon D: The game must go on!

Also, there is a way that everyone in the game can win at the same time. Never gonna happen, but if it does, I'll be damn impressed.
They say great science is built on the shoulders of giants. Not here. At Aperture, we do all our science from scratch, no hand holding. Step aside, REAL SCIENCE coming through.
ghost_403
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1825 Posts
January 07 2013 15:25 GMT
#34
On January 07 2013 23:35 Dandel Ion wrote:
No, nobody wants you, iamp.


I want IMP

<3
They say great science is built on the shoulders of giants. Not here. At Aperture, we do all our science from scratch, no hand holding. Step aside, REAL SCIENCE coming through.
JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
January 07 2013 15:27 GMT
#35
/in in innnnnnnnnnnnnnn
Please send me a PM of any song you like that I most probably never heard of! I am looking for people to chat about writing and producing music | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noD-bsOcxuU |
JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
January 07 2013 15:37 GMT
#36
SO INTERESTING
Please send me a PM of any song you like that I most probably never heard of! I am looking for people to chat about writing and producing music | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noD-bsOcxuU |
JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
January 07 2013 15:43 GMT
#37
On January 08 2013 00:24 ghost_403 wrote:
Also, there is a way that everyone in the game can win at the same time. Never gonna happen, but if it does, I'll be damn impressed.


I can picture a situation where only the Jester, Lyncher and Yakuza left in the game, lyncher's target is the Jester and the Jester gets lynched and 3 people win together.

How can both town and mafia win together?
Please send me a PM of any song you like that I most probably never heard of! I am looking for people to chat about writing and producing music | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noD-bsOcxuU |
Dienosore
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Brunei Darussalam622 Posts
January 07 2013 15:44 GMT
#38
/in
ghost_403
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1825 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-07 16:04:36
January 07 2013 15:45 GMT
#39
On January 08 2013 00:43 JieXian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2013 00:24 ghost_403 wrote:
Also, there is a way that everyone in the game can win at the same time. Never gonna happen, but if it does, I'll be damn impressed.


I can picture a situation where only the Jester, Lyncher and Yakuza left in the game, lyncher's target is the Jester and the Jester gets lynched and 3 people win together.

How can both town and mafia win together?


And spoil the fun! I think not.

e: turns out the shrink has to die for this to happen. Sorry, shrink.
ee: and the doc. missed that the first four times. It's stupidly complicated.
They say great science is built on the shoulders of giants. Not here. At Aperture, we do all our science from scratch, no hand holding. Step aside, REAL SCIENCE coming through.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 07 2013 16:12 GMT
#40
On January 08 2013 00:24 ghost_403 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2013 00:07 Toadesstern wrote:
On January 07 2013 22:59 Palmar wrote:
On January 07 2013 22:52 Clarity_nl wrote:
If yakuza sacrifices to turn the PGO and the medic targets yakuza, does the yakuza die?


Yes, the yakuza's sacrifice counts as 1 KP delivered unto himself. (Fun fact, if there was a watcher in the game watching the Yak, he'd see the Yak visiting up to three targets. The night kill, the sacrifice target, and himself).


oh wait just to get this right, so he dies because he takes 2 KP while only being protected from 1? 1 protection from medic, 1 KP from selfdestruction, 1KP from PGO?
So if medic targets mafia and mafia sacs himself to turn medic into mafia it's pretty much insta-gg because mafia gets protection from selfdestruction and medic ends up being mafia?

Not quite insta-gg, but pretty close. Yes, the medic can stop the yak from dying as a result of his night actions.

Show nested quote +

2nd question
What happens with Jester / Lyncher if he / his target gets killed during night? Wayne with Jester because he's just dead without winning the game (correct?) but what about the Lyncher? Let's say I am the Lyncher, I have to lynch WBG and that useless scrub kills himself at night by targeting the PGO. I don't win the game because I didn't lynch him but am I still in the game?

I'll defer to Palmar, but it doesn't sound to me like he met his wincon D: The game must go on!

Also, there is a way that everyone in the game can win at the same time. Never gonna happen, but if it does, I'll be damn impressed.

well yeah, obviously in both scenarios both the jester or the lyncher have not met their wincon and therefore lost but will the Lyncher be removed from the game if that happens or does he get to be Kingmaker (I despise those Kingmaker scenarios).

And about the first.. well yeah not quite. Mafia can still lose due to being to slow but other than that they're pretty much unstoppable :p
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
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