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On January 06 2013 08:36 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:Show nested quote +On January 06 2013 07:53 Hapahauli wrote:
@ CC
Can you give me an update on your current suspicions? Xatalos does have a point when he says that you haven't been all that committal this game You kidding? He has been a floundering neutral playing PoS this game so far and literally hasn't done anything but teeter on the fence of null on DP. Xatalos scum. Jay scummy as fk. Yamato is pretty meh considering he's Yamato. That vote was just out there but, you know, it's him and i can't exactly blow up on him over his work schedule because mines pretty fucked up too. CC also pretty scummy. Not even going to bother with you and DP, I'm just glad you two stopped facerolling into each other. Rise I want to think as town because of his "grand master plan" to rid the world of scum and do justice. Idk, nothing inherently scummy so far other than lurking. MrZ soup null sides that he's "too obv scum to be scum brah" argument which rubs me the wrong way but hey, it's pretty much a null tell either way.
Regarding Xatalos, I'm not as sold on him as you are. Indecision is not an exclusively scummy trait, and a degree of hesitancy is necessary with this mechanic. If he never comes up with something, I'll be concerned. For now, he's pretty null for me.
I'm really not sure why you think Yamato is "Yamato." In fact, he's being anything but right now given his abysmal activity
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On January 06 2013 08:58 jaybrundage wrote:
Hapa
Plz reread my case on him. It seems you missed some stuff before
I read your case on him. I really don't agree with you. Mr.CC posts a lot of one-liners in his town games as well.
In fact, I'm really not getting what you find bad about that "Xalatos is scum" post of his. You're basically making an association case based on DP being scum and Mr.CC ignoring DP's flip-flopping.
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On January 06 2013 09:01 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:Show nested quote +On January 06 2013 09:00 Hapahauli wrote:On January 06 2013 08:36 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:On January 06 2013 07:53 Hapahauli wrote:
@ CC
Can you give me an update on your current suspicions? Xatalos does have a point when he says that you haven't been all that committal this game You kidding? He has been a floundering neutral playing PoS this game so far and literally hasn't done anything but teeter on the fence of null on DP. Xatalos scum. Jay scummy as fk. Yamato is pretty meh considering he's Yamato. That vote was just out there but, you know, it's him and i can't exactly blow up on him over his work schedule because mines pretty fucked up too. CC also pretty scummy. Not even going to bother with you and DP, I'm just glad you two stopped facerolling into each other. Rise I want to think as town because of his "grand master plan" to rid the world of scum and do justice. Idk, nothing inherently scummy so far other than lurking. MrZ soup null sides that he's "too obv scum to be scum brah" argument which rubs me the wrong way but hey, it's pretty much a null tell either way. Regarding Xatalos, I'm not as sold on him as you are. Indecision is not an exclusively scummy trait, and a degree of hesitancy is necessary with this mechanic. If he never comes up with something, I'll be concerned. For now, he's pretty null for me. I'm really not sure why you think Yamato is "Yamato." In fact, he's being anything but right now given his abysmal activity I mean that Yamato in himself is an enigma all his own regardless of activity this game. I don't know what to do with him.
Wut? Yamato is generally pretty obv-town when he's town. He's active, aggressive, and foams at the mouth about scum-reads.
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Mr.CC, why the crap are you voting MrZ, when you posted this barely an hour ago:
You kidding? He has been a floundering neutral playing PoS this game so far and literally hasn't done anything but teeter on the fence of null on DP. Xatalos scum. Jay scummy as fk. Yamato is pretty meh considering he's Yamato. That vote was just out there but, you know, it's him and i can't exactly blow up on him over his work schedule because mines pretty fucked up too. CC also pretty scummy.
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On January 06 2013 09:10 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:Show nested quote +On January 06 2013 09:09 Hapahauli wrote:On January 06 2013 09:01 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:On January 06 2013 09:00 Hapahauli wrote:On January 06 2013 08:36 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:On January 06 2013 07:53 Hapahauli wrote:
@ CC
Can you give me an update on your current suspicions? Xatalos does have a point when he says that you haven't been all that committal this game You kidding? He has been a floundering neutral playing PoS this game so far and literally hasn't done anything but teeter on the fence of null on DP. Xatalos scum. Jay scummy as fk. Yamato is pretty meh considering he's Yamato. That vote was just out there but, you know, it's him and i can't exactly blow up on him over his work schedule because mines pretty fucked up too. CC also pretty scummy. Not even going to bother with you and DP, I'm just glad you two stopped facerolling into each other. Rise I want to think as town because of his "grand master plan" to rid the world of scum and do justice. Idk, nothing inherently scummy so far other than lurking. MrZ soup null sides that he's "too obv scum to be scum brah" argument which rubs me the wrong way but hey, it's pretty much a null tell either way. Regarding Xatalos, I'm not as sold on him as you are. Indecision is not an exclusively scummy trait, and a degree of hesitancy is necessary with this mechanic. If he never comes up with something, I'll be concerned. For now, he's pretty null for me. I'm really not sure why you think Yamato is "Yamato." In fact, he's being anything but right now given his abysmal activity I mean that Yamato in himself is an enigma all his own regardless of activity this game. I don't know what to do with him. Wut? Yamato is generally pretty obv-town when he's town. He's active, aggressive, and foams at the mouth about scum-reads. Obv-town as town? You must have not seen my newbie games with him haha. One of the scummiest towns in those games by far.
Which games in particular? Can you give me a run-down of his play in those games? Because in recent games I've seen (particularly Yet Another Normal Mini Mafia), he really flaunts a town persona.
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Oh yeah those games. Those weren't very good lynches d00d =P
But look at his filter in those games. Look how engaged, spammy, and aggressive he is. This game... he's a shell of himself.
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On January 06 2013 09:22 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:Show nested quote +On January 06 2013 09:20 Hapahauli wrote:
Oh yeah those games. Those weren't very good lynches d00d =P
But look at his filter in those games. Look how engaged, spammy, and aggressive he is. This game... he's a shell of himself. Can it all be due to a work schedule? I mean I can sympathize with that. But he's been really lurky so far and I was looking forward to him tunneling the fuck out of me. Him backing down made me a sad panda...
Even if we dismiss the inactivity (due to RL excuses), it's the backing down that triggers the scum-alarm for me. I've never seen town Yamato back down from a scumread like that. Ever.
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That's why I'm not voting him yet. I need to talk to him some more to figure out how genuine that is.
Though, I think he's scum because his behavior seems to go beyond a strategic change and into a personality change. . Basically all traces of his town-aggression are gone from his play. Perhaps this is due to inactivity, but it just seems too drastic of a change.
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Btw CC, you mind building a case on Xatalos? He may be indecisive, but I don't see how it's scummy.
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On January 06 2013 09:44 MrZentor wrote:
I feel pressured.
As cute as you're being, it would be helpful if you actually did something ya know.
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@ CC
Well his (Xatalos's) "flip-flop" makes sense since I was actively trying to convince him to do exactly that (in regards to DP).
I will say that I see hesitancy as a town-trait in instant-lynch setups. It's something I was advocating early on, and him being patient and willing to take time with things makes me lean town on him. He reminds me a lot of Austinmcc in GSL III Mini in terms of his approach to early-game play. I'm not concerned about his "indecision" yet. I might be if this goes on for a couple of more days though.
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On January 06 2013 09:45 DarthPunk wrote:
Man I would love to hear from Riseagain. This kind of inactivity from a player hurts and it makes it absolutely impossible to determine their alignment.
Also just reading through all the posts since I have been asleep I noticed something weird. It seems as if Jaybrundage and Xatalos have been pushing the same agenda and using very similar reasoning despite extremely limited in thread interaction.
Now I know we can't make association cases before a flip, but I thought that I would mention it in case someone else had noticed the same thing.
Funny, but fairly irrelevant. In fact, mafia buddies often won't push the same mislynch early Day 1
Do you have any individually focused thoughts on Jay and Xatalos?
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On January 06 2013 09:47 MrZentor wrote:
I can't do much if we're never lynching anybody...
Well we're only 48 hours in. No reason to get impatient right now.
But all this talk of lynch impatience rings hollow since you haven't voted for anyone...
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On January 06 2013 10:03 MrZentor wrote:
So when do you plan on lynching somebody?
Whenever I feel like it.
But more importantly, I'm not making a lynch decision on 17 pages of total game filter. That's just asking for fail.
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I'd rather not lynch MrZ either. He's a pretty classic example of a bored townie.
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On January 06 2013 10:10 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:Show nested quote +On January 06 2013 10:07 Hapahauli wrote:
I'd rather not lynch MrZ either. He's a pretty classic example of a bored townie. Hapa, you know how much I want to call that a scumslip right? Hehehe. Oh lordy you get me riled up. But seriously Mr.Z -- your opinions please.
Well do you agree with me or disagree? And take your vote off him if you're unwilling to lynch him. Your pressure is better directed at your actual scumreads right now (Jay/Xatalos) than someone who clearly doesn't give a shit about your vote.
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On January 06 2013 10:15 yamato77 wrote:
I'm tired of this Hapa tunnel shit.
Either vote me or not. I've been up front about my play this game and yet you continue to act suspicious of me.
You have yet to vote me. It seems to me you're sitting on the idea of voting me just to look like you have scum reads.
Fuck that.
##Vote: Hapahauli
You have been useful this game: true or false?
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@ Jay
I disagree on Mr.CC completely. He's been one of the more active and engaged players so far. I've spent a great deal of time talking to him over the last few hours, and I can't sense anything scummy about his behavior. He's open and opinionated, and that seems very townie.
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@ DP
What's the sense in voting for someone that's likely to get replaced? Also I'm rather surprised to see you not following up on Jay at all.
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Regarding Shaio, he's pretty lurky as town too. I hate it, but it is what it is. Can't get a read on the guy if he ain't around.
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