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More interested in seeing you scumhunt rather than town-hunt right now yamato =/
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Where'd everyone go? Discussion was so good for all of 30 minutes =/
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IMO Z-Bo, the "who should we lynch" spoiler pretty much confirms MrZ as town. Like what scum on earth would have patience to do that?
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Z-Bo, I'm curious - have you ever taken a look at MrZ's meta (particularly his scum-games)?
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On January 08 2013 10:05 Z-BosoN wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2013 10:04 Hapahauli wrote:
Z-Bo, I'm curious - have you ever taken a look at MrZ's meta (particularly his scum-games)? nope. Is there a key aspect to it I may be missing?
In what I've seen, he's super-lurker extraordinaire as scum.
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On January 08 2013 10:17 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2013 10:11 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:On January 08 2013 10:08 yamato77 wrote:On January 08 2013 10:03 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:On January 08 2013 09:57 yamato77 wrote:On January 08 2013 09:55 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:On January 08 2013 09:53 yamato77 wrote:On January 08 2013 09:43 DarthPunk wrote:
@ Yamato. You have a lot of experience playing with CC don't you? how would you say his play this game correlates to his previous games with you?
@ ZB have you dramatically altered your playstyle since the last time we played together? This is certainly not the town meta I remember from you. I've only played with town CC so I haven't seen his scum meta but this game doesn't look like the games I played with him. For one, he hasn't outright called me scum yet, he's actually defended me. Two, he doesn't seem active or invested like he usually does. Like I've said before, I have had a town read on him but it isn't strong, and it's quickly degrading. As for my top scum read, I still don't like Zentor for his play day 1 and he hasn't done anything to change that. I'm going to put some time into reading filters more carefully and see if I can see things more clearly. I've been calling you out for shit, apparently you haven't noticed? I wanted to LYNCH you day 1. I defended you a tad d1 and that's it. You've been saying the same things Hapa was. I don't see any reason to attach those questions to your thought process. Wait what? I still never defended you besides me saying "Yamato is being Yamato". Also, how can you say I don't seem as active? I'm as active if not more active than in my previous games with you with the exception of the first half of D1. You are straight up lying. A lot of your posting this game is what I would call "posting to post". You say nothing meaningful to the thread. You announce you're here, or that you're working, or make some snarky comment. This is different from your town games where you seem actively engaged in figuring out the game. And now this. You haven't seen any reason to respond to me before, but now that I give the slightest inkling I think you might be scum, you start attacking me. OMGUS much? CC, why so scummy? LOL! I've been attacking you but you haven't responded in the slightest. Plus, that post of yours where you voted me I just went "lol", I'm not attacking you because you think I'm scum. Why don't you actually do something in this game Yamato. Everyone keeps saying that I'm "posting for posting" or blah blah blah. But you of all people should know I do that as town. A LOT. C'mon Yamato let's go. Tunnel me. @ bolded. He keeps doing it and it remains scummy as fuck. Baiting someone to tunnel you like that only serves to discredit and diminish yamato's read. He has done it with others also. I don't like it at all. @ Hapa how can you reconcile such behaviour with a town mindset?
How the fuck is the bolded a scum mindset. Are you retarded?
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On January 08 2013 10:21 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2013 10:18 Hapahauli wrote:On January 08 2013 10:17 DarthPunk wrote:On January 08 2013 10:11 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:On January 08 2013 10:08 yamato77 wrote:On January 08 2013 10:03 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:On January 08 2013 09:57 yamato77 wrote:On January 08 2013 09:55 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:On January 08 2013 09:53 yamato77 wrote:On January 08 2013 09:43 DarthPunk wrote:
@ Yamato. You have a lot of experience playing with CC don't you? how would you say his play this game correlates to his previous games with you?
@ ZB have you dramatically altered your playstyle since the last time we played together? This is certainly not the town meta I remember from you. I've only played with town CC so I haven't seen his scum meta but this game doesn't look like the games I played with him. For one, he hasn't outright called me scum yet, he's actually defended me. Two, he doesn't seem active or invested like he usually does. Like I've said before, I have had a town read on him but it isn't strong, and it's quickly degrading. As for my top scum read, I still don't like Zentor for his play day 1 and he hasn't done anything to change that. I'm going to put some time into reading filters more carefully and see if I can see things more clearly. I've been calling you out for shit, apparently you haven't noticed? I wanted to LYNCH you day 1. I defended you a tad d1 and that's it. You've been saying the same things Hapa was. I don't see any reason to attach those questions to your thought process. Wait what? I still never defended you besides me saying "Yamato is being Yamato". Also, how can you say I don't seem as active? I'm as active if not more active than in my previous games with you with the exception of the first half of D1. You are straight up lying. A lot of your posting this game is what I would call "posting to post". You say nothing meaningful to the thread. You announce you're here, or that you're working, or make some snarky comment. This is different from your town games where you seem actively engaged in figuring out the game. And now this. You haven't seen any reason to respond to me before, but now that I give the slightest inkling I think you might be scum, you start attacking me. OMGUS much? CC, why so scummy? LOL! I've been attacking you but you haven't responded in the slightest. Plus, that post of yours where you voted me I just went "lol", I'm not attacking you because you think I'm scum. Why don't you actually do something in this game Yamato. Everyone keeps saying that I'm "posting for posting" or blah blah blah. But you of all people should know I do that as town. A LOT. C'mon Yamato let's go. Tunnel me. @ bolded. He keeps doing it and it remains scummy as fuck. Baiting someone to tunnel you like that only serves to discredit and diminish yamato's read. He has done it with others also. I don't like it at all. @ Hapa how can you reconcile such behaviour with a town mindset? How the fuck is the bolded a scum mindset. Are you retarded? How the fuck is it not. It is exactly what I would be saying in that situation as scum.
Firstly, you are not CC.
Secondly, attracting suspicion to yourself isn't scummy. I find those things town in general. At the very least it should be null.
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@ Z-bo
Let's talk about my scumreads for a minute. Why is Shaio not scum? (And to a lesser extent Jay)
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On January 08 2013 10:34 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2013 10:23 Hapahauli wrote:On January 08 2013 10:21 DarthPunk wrote:On January 08 2013 10:18 Hapahauli wrote:On January 08 2013 10:17 DarthPunk wrote:On January 08 2013 10:11 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:On January 08 2013 10:08 yamato77 wrote:On January 08 2013 10:03 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:On January 08 2013 09:57 yamato77 wrote:On January 08 2013 09:55 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
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I've been calling you out for shit, apparently you haven't noticed? I wanted to LYNCH you day 1. I defended you a tad d1 and that's it. You've been saying the same things Hapa was. I don't see any reason to attach those questions to your thought process. Wait what? I still never defended you besides me saying "Yamato is being Yamato". Also, how can you say I don't seem as active? I'm as active if not more active than in my previous games with you with the exception of the first half of D1. You are straight up lying. A lot of your posting this game is what I would call "posting to post". You say nothing meaningful to the thread. You announce you're here, or that you're working, or make some snarky comment. This is different from your town games where you seem actively engaged in figuring out the game. And now this. You haven't seen any reason to respond to me before, but now that I give the slightest inkling I think you might be scum, you start attacking me. OMGUS much? CC, why so scummy? LOL! I've been attacking you but you haven't responded in the slightest. Plus, that post of yours where you voted me I just went "lol", I'm not attacking you because you think I'm scum. Why don't you actually do something in this game Yamato. Everyone keeps saying that I'm "posting for posting" or blah blah blah. But you of all people should know I do that as town. A LOT. C'mon Yamato let's go. Tunnel me. @ bolded. He keeps doing it and it remains scummy as fuck. Baiting someone to tunnel you like that only serves to discredit and diminish yamato's read. He has done it with others also. I don't like it at all. @ Hapa how can you reconcile such behaviour with a town mindset? How the fuck is the bolded a scum mindset. Are you retarded? How the fuck is it not. It is exactly what I would be saying in that situation as scum. Firstly, you are not CC. Secondly, attracting suspicion to yourself isn't scummy. I find those things town in general. At the very least it should be null. Yes, attracting suspicion to yourself IS townie. But that is exactly what you do if you are playing that style as scum. And he has done it pretty much everytime someone has called him out. Which causes me to read it as a heuristic to diminish suspicion by emulating a townie reaction, rather than a genuine show of emotion that has not been premeditated.One is townie the other is scummy. CC is scummy.
Being stubborn and not changing your strategy when pressured isn't scummy. I'd understand if he was using it as a ploy to avoid scumhunting. But he's not. He's turning down opportunities to defend himself and going after his scumreads instead. That's absurdly townie.
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On January 08 2013 10:36 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
@Hapa
I know I'm in the middle of rolling my face over Yamato, but what do you think about Shaio always defending himself? I made a post about it during the night. Nobody has responded to it in the slightest. Is it a paranoid scumtell?
Person lurking and doing nothing of consequence but defending himself = scum.
He's kinda the guy I want to lynch ya know >.>
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A bunch of people here seem to be participating in the discussion and hunting for mafia. Two people are not. What are the names of those two people?
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Straight-up question to anyone here: what has ShaioPi done to make you think that he's town?
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Shaio lurking in bigger games is pretty common. He mentioned in one of his games that he feels "lost" in the larger games and doesn't post much. You'll notice in LVII, he picked up his scum-hunting and activity in a big way when the player-pool got smaller. Also, he didn't post in LVII because of internet problems. He has no such excuse this game.
GSL II Mini is the most recent example of his town play (in a mini), where he was leading discussion for most of the game in a lurky town environment.
If he's town, he has an opportunity to prove that over the next 48 hours. Otherwise, I'm lynching him.
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On January 08 2013 11:15 jaybrundage wrote:
I would be done for a Shaiopi lynch.
Also DP why would you think im scum. If CC comes up as scum. Pushing your partner hard when there is only 2 scum is pretty stupid
You realize you're down for lynching like everyone in this game right?
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On January 08 2013 11:41 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2013 11:27 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:On January 08 2013 11:19 yamato77 wrote:CC's defense of his admittedly scummy okay this game is this: On January 08 2013 05:17 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:On January 08 2013 05:04 Hapahauli wrote:On January 08 2013 04:59 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:On January 08 2013 04:31 Hapahauli wrote:
In school right now - interested to hear a reply to dp's case, as well as scumreads In terms of DP's case.. It's alright. He's wrong, but I'm pretty scummy and much of the argument does hold water. However, I'm fairly disinterested with the pressure on me right now. I don't think I'll be lynched tomorrow, and I won't sit here and waste time deflecting every point brought against me. We can all settle on the fact that I'm super scummy right now, and that's fine with me. I would like you to be concerned, because I'm interested in hearing you defend what looks like a reasonable case against you. His main point is that I just "heap shit on weak players". I don't know how you'd like me to defend that, because it's true. Some people need shit heaped on them to start doing stuff. Most of it is based on my shitty stream post, which, as all indicates, heaps shit on players. I heap some shit here and there, it's all fine. I want answers. And if you have to dig your way out that's perfectly fine with me. The thread has been pathetically inactive for how long the game has been going. If I have to make myself seem scummy to generate some sort of response, well here we have it. Problem is, I haven't heard from players that are really concerning like SP or Yamato. He says he has to be scummy because its the only way to move the thread forward. Again, how is this indicative of a town mindset? If he's town, why does he want to intentionally look scummy so that town wastes time and effort looking at him? No, he's much more likely to be scum baiting town into lynching him while thinking they won't because "scum wouldn't look so scummy". Furthermore, how is his play supposed to generate useful discussion? This whole post looks like post-hoc rationalization, a trademark of scum behavior. If he wanted to move the thread forward meaningfully, why didn't he do so by actually making substantiated cases on his reads with evidence to back up his cutesy one-liners? Because he's full of shit and he knows it. It took you an hour to dig up that? I am disappoint. If you really thought I was scum you would have had that in 10 minutes tops. Oh, and you seemed to have missed the part where I said I wasn't intentionally looking scummy, it was just a bi-product of my shenanigans to get answers. You know, the post after that in my filter. Try harder please, Yamato. Why am I scummy? This is just an extension of the "You aren't promoting useful discussion" argument. Excuse me for having other things to do in my life besides prove to town that you are scum. Are you going to do anything today besides defend yourself? Poorly,I might add.I bring up plenty of points besides just the useful discussion point. You cannot deny it looks like straight up post-hoc rationale. You didn't intend to look scummy with your shit but now that you do and you realize people see it that way you're making up bullshit excuses for your shit play. I'm dine with reading your useless posts. It is in town's best interest to see you hang. ##Vote: Mr Cheesecake
Weren't you accusing him of... not defending himself before?
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On January 08 2013 11:46 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2013 11:45 Hapahauli wrote:On January 08 2013 11:41 yamato77 wrote:On January 08 2013 11:27 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:On January 08 2013 11:19 yamato77 wrote:CC's defense of his admittedly scummy okay this game is this: On January 08 2013 05:17 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:On January 08 2013 05:04 Hapahauli wrote:On January 08 2013 04:59 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:On January 08 2013 04:31 Hapahauli wrote:
In school right now - interested to hear a reply to dp's case, as well as scumreads In terms of DP's case.. It's alright. He's wrong, but I'm pretty scummy and much of the argument does hold water. However, I'm fairly disinterested with the pressure on me right now. I don't think I'll be lynched tomorrow, and I won't sit here and waste time deflecting every point brought against me. We can all settle on the fact that I'm super scummy right now, and that's fine with me. I would like you to be concerned, because I'm interested in hearing you defend what looks like a reasonable case against you. His main point is that I just "heap shit on weak players". I don't know how you'd like me to defend that, because it's true. Some people need shit heaped on them to start doing stuff. Most of it is based on my shitty stream post, which, as all indicates, heaps shit on players. I heap some shit here and there, it's all fine. I want answers. And if you have to dig your way out that's perfectly fine with me. The thread has been pathetically inactive for how long the game has been going. If I have to make myself seem scummy to generate some sort of response, well here we have it. Problem is, I haven't heard from players that are really concerning like SP or Yamato. He says he has to be scummy because its the only way to move the thread forward. Again, how is this indicative of a town mindset? If he's town, why does he want to intentionally look scummy so that town wastes time and effort looking at him? No, he's much more likely to be scum baiting town into lynching him while thinking they won't because "scum wouldn't look so scummy". Furthermore, how is his play supposed to generate useful discussion? This whole post looks like post-hoc rationalization, a trademark of scum behavior. If he wanted to move the thread forward meaningfully, why didn't he do so by actually making substantiated cases on his reads with evidence to back up his cutesy one-liners? Because he's full of shit and he knows it. It took you an hour to dig up that? I am disappoint. If you really thought I was scum you would have had that in 10 minutes tops. Oh, and you seemed to have missed the part where I said I wasn't intentionally looking scummy, it was just a bi-product of my shenanigans to get answers. You know, the post after that in my filter. Try harder please, Yamato. Why am I scummy? This is just an extension of the "You aren't promoting useful discussion" argument. Excuse me for having other things to do in my life besides prove to town that you are scum. Are you going to do anything today besides defend yourself? Poorly,I might add.I bring up plenty of points besides just the useful discussion point. You cannot deny it looks like straight up post-hoc rationale. You didn't intend to look scummy with your shit but now that you do and you realize people see it that way you're making up bullshit excuses for your shit play. I'm dine with reading your useless posts. It is in town's best interest to see you hang. ##Vote: Mr Cheesecake Weren't you accusing him of... not defending himself before? Where is this exactly?
Oh that was DP. I dunno why, but I'm thinking of both of you as one entity for some reason.
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On January 08 2013 11:56 jaybrundage wrote:
@Hapa well lets see I made a case on ShaioPi, Sheeped your case on DP who i'm leaning town on, and then have been gunning for CC.
So that's two people I want to lynch.
Yamato why didnt you want to lynch CC earlier?
Four people actually:
On January 07 2013 08:19 jaybrundage wrote:
Ok can we lynch cc now
On January 07 2013 08:23 jaybrundage wrote:
That was so badddddddddddddddddd. I was gonna go reread Xaltos posting cause the more i looked at him the more i could see townie. Like we lynched him when he wasnt even here. I only see a scum driven wagon when I look at the votes.
Hapa questions do you think that both of the scum could of been on that wagon.
Do you think it was scummy as fuck for what Zentor and Yamato did. Hammaring with out talking to the town first is terrible we should all b agreeing on shit. Not do rash dumb actons
On January 08 2013 11:15 jaybrundage wrote:
I would be done for a Shaiopi lynch.
Also DP why would you think im scum. If CC comes up as scum. Pushing your partner hard when there is only 2 scum is pretty stupid
Also, at what point did you start leaning town on DP? I can't identify a single point in your filter where you call DP town.
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Yamato this is fucking absurd. Repeatedly screaming "die scum" at someone is the most useless fucking thing you can do.
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I need you (Yamato) to calmly and carefully lay out why you think CC is scum. Because the argument between the both of you has devolved to the point where it's no longer productive.
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