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On December 23 2012 02:22 Stutters695 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 23 2012 01:44 Promethelax wrote:
yes you are, 33 hours later with nothing to show for it. that was all you had to say about everything that happened between December 21 2012 15:43 tl time and December 23 2012 01:01 tl time.
Give me some content. So what do you think of morb? I'll be posting from my phone all say so I can't quote it but I went over earlier what I felt was wrong with his d1 posting and I think his calling iamp town out of nowhere and not explaining why is sketch as hell. I'm not sure who I'd pin for a third scum yet but I'm starting other people's filters now.
I think Morb is an idiot (as evidenced by the other game that I linked) and him playing like an idiot is not alignment indicative. His attempts to play this game feel genuine and all in all he is a terrible lynch.
WBG rage quitting is annoying but also not alignment indicative, ever since Paranoia he has had a big stick up his ass.
Palmar, thanks for the vote of confidence. Who do you want to lynch and why. You aren't a sheep, why pretend to be one?
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On December 23 2012 02:17 Palmar wrote:
as is obvious I'm not really playing much today.
Anyone voting for morbidius is an idiot, maybe we need to lynch bugs?
I will probably have more time tomorrow.
I guess we can't lynch Prom for now cause looks like he's putting in effort. Once again I agree with almost everything sciberbia has written. Also, I wonder who roleblocked bugs?
Mind explaining the town read on morbidius?
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And I'm guessing he checked green.
Well fuck me
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On December 23 2012 03:37 Morbidius wrote:
I'm cop, i checked Iamp.
Yea saw that one coming. I think you made it too obvious. There wasn't really any reason to claim today, but what's done is done I suppose.
I was laughing my ass off at this post:
On December 23 2012 01:01 Stutters695 wrote:
I wasn't sure whether if rather lynch vivax or morb today but this early posting has sealed it. . First he says he's "very suspicious" of and then worried about iamp. Then out of nowhere he's just definitely town? I don't buy it, especially since he didn't say iamp was town until after he was challenged to make a case.
##Vote: Morbidius
I would like to know what made you decide iamp was town and why are you now "worried" about wbg.
No offense stutters.
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No there wasn't.I doubt bugs wouldn't realize it, but he is too dedicated to stirring shit up.
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I can't see any scum claiming that dumbly, unfortunately.
Let's kill stutters then.
##unvote
##vote Stutters695
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eywa and sciberbia also are options. If two scum are not between those 3 then add debears.
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On December 23 2012 03:59 wherebugsgo wrote:
eywa and sciberbia also are options. If two scum are not between those 3 then add debears.
sciberbia is like the most townie fucker in the entire game.
Eywa is a possibility but honestly he put a lot of thought into the case on day 1.
Fuck this, I can't keep giving you a pass when your reads are terrible.
##Vote Wherebugsgo
for trying to killl 2 people I have a town read on and not being useful at all.
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it's process of elimination, and I'm confirmed town.
Think about it.
If Morbidius is cop, then iamp is town. There's almost no chance there's a second godfather, or that the framer targetted a scum iamp (and I never had a scumread on that guy to begin with, so who cares). That's two towns. I am town. I think you are town. I think Vivax is town. Toad is dead. Yamato is almost confirmed town.
That leaves debears, stutters, eywa, sciberbia. Pick two of four.
I have town reads on debears and sciberbia, but if one of eywa and stutters is not scum then who the fuck is?
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to expound on the "I'm confirmed town".
If I'm scum, explain the roleblock on me.
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oh lol there's not even a framer in this game so iamp and Morbidius are basically confirmed
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@bugs
Do you really think stutters, eywa, and I are all more likely to be scum than debears? The only defense of debears that I see in your filter is in this post:
On December 22 2012 17:06 wherebugsgo wrote:
Debears is town, you asshats. If he was scum why the fuck would he shoot Toad after pushing him all day? To make it harder for himself? Do you think he would defend himself this strongly if he was scum? (the second one is an actual, genuine question, though I think I know the answer)
There are a few things to note. One, Morbidius used Toad's flip to put suspicion on debears. That's something town like to do. Secondly, only a really bad scum team would shoot Toad, or Toad was right about something (or a combination of both). Toad listed morbidius, Vivax, and stutters as probable scum. I'll be looking into those players (as well as promethelax and eywa) today.
For now I think morbidius has the strongest chance to flip scum.
Besides the fact that the NK analysis is fairly WIFOMy and not . that reliable to begin with, you misstated Toads's suspicions. If you look at Toad's filter, he said:
On December 21 2012 23:23 Toadesstern wrote:
If I had to make a call right now I'd say morb + debears but I haven't looked to much into morb at all, so it's more of a gut-feeling. I really didn't like his weird vote.
On December 22 2012 02:56 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On December 22 2012 02:43 Vivax wrote:
Toad...I HAD to write a read on Wiggles, I promised I would. Sorry if I found him to be scummy enough for the vote afterwards, but of what use would it have been to keep my vote on Morbidius?
If anything, the vote I delivered is the exact opposite of what mafia would have wanted.
I didn't include any read at all in my diagram. It was just completly objective looking at 2 mafiatreats given the situation: 1) voting WBG 2) voting Wiggles late Both things mafia would have liked to do because they want someone other than wiggles dead / because they want to only switch to wiggles if it's really looking like he's going to get lynched. No analysis beyond those two points, just old fashioned vote-analysis. I'm in no way saying the both of you are mafia (because of it). I'm saying those circumstances look bad because you and morbidius happen to have done both.
To summarise, he says he thought Morbidious and Debears were scum. He did not directly say that he thought Stutters and Vivax were scum.
So, I think it's quite conceivable that a mafia Debears would shoot Toad. Toad thought Debears was scum. Toad looked pretty townie (IMO) after D1. Toad is a pretty good player. I don't see why you think it's so impossible.
As to you your second point, I do think it is a townie trait to put a lot of effort into defending yourself. But it's certainly not a definitive towntell. Scum don't want to die either.
Do you not agree with anything that iamperfection, I, or anyone else have said about Debears?
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Anyone wanting to lynch bugs has to explain the rb
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It's between WBG, vivax, stutters, and Eywa for the rest of the scumteam. If eywa doesn't show up he's modkilled. Stutters is lurky as either alignment.
And scum can withold a rb and have one of their own claim it. Not that hard n1.
So I'd say it's between WBG and Vivax
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On December 23 2012 04:01 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On December 23 2012 03:59 wherebugsgo wrote:
eywa and sciberbia also are options. If two scum are not between those 3 then add debears. sciberbia is like the most townie fucker in the entire game. Eywa is a possibility but honestly he put a lot of thought into the case on day 1. Fuck this, I can't keep giving you a pass when your reads are terrible. ##Vote Wherebugsgofor trying to killl 2 people I have a town read on and not being useful at all.
@Palmar
I understand that you haven't agreed with some of bugs's reads. But how confident are you that he is scum because of it? I observed that you mistakenly thought he was scum in Hero Mini because you disliked his reads in that game too.
Basically, I want to know if really think bugs has the best chance of flipping scum right now, or if you just voting him because you don't like how he is playing.
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Ugh but if stutters keeps doing this shit....fuck this game
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On December 23 2012 04:51 debears wrote:
It's between WBG, vivax, stutters, and Eywa for the rest of the scumteam. If eywa doesn't show up he's modkilled. Stutters is lurky as either alignment.
And scum can withold a rb and have one of their own claim it. Not that hard n1.
So I'd say it's between WBG and Vivax
It would be insanely stupid to waste a rb after losing gf
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@Scribs
Who do you feel is the best lynch out of Vivax, WBG, and Stutters?
*hypothetical that you don't want to lynch me today*
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On December 23 2012 05:00 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On December 23 2012 04:51 debears wrote:
It's between WBG, vivax, stutters, and Eywa for the rest of the scumteam. If eywa doesn't show up he's modkilled. Stutters is lurky as either alignment.
And scum can withold a rb and have one of their own claim it. Not that hard n1.
So I'd say it's between WBG and Vivax It would be insanely stupid to waste a rb after losing gf
hmmm true
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