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Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
December 20 2012 21:25 GMT
#506
Oh btw I don't know if I'm allowed to say this because it's out of thread information but usually telling people that someone is posting somewhere else on TL while not posting in a game is fine as well so I don't see a reason why it should be a problem:

Remember when I said I was playing dota yesterday? That was around 9pm my time until 3am my time. Those games included Wiggles, Hassy and Greymist, so yeah, he did play a bunch of dota and isn't talking shit out his ass. We obviously don't talk about mafia at all but it's one of the reasons I'm a bit uncertain about Wiggles and one of the reasons I'm not giving that much about the "Wiggles usually does more as town".
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
December 20 2012 21:28 GMT
#510
Oh and I really don't want to last-second-switch to Zelblade if all four of: Wiggles, WBG, Palmar and myself (only including myself for propper listing, obviously I know my own alignment^^) are so very much happy to kill off Zelblade.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
December 20 2012 21:30 GMT
#512
On December 21 2012 06:27 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2012 06:25 Toadesstern wrote:
Oh btw I don't know if I'm allowed to say this because it's out of thread information but usually telling people that someone is posting somewhere else on TL while not posting in a game is fine as well so I don't see a reason why it should be a problem:

Remember when I said I was playing dota yesterday? That was around 9pm my time until 3am my time. Those games included Wiggles, Hassy and Greymist, so yeah, he did play a bunch of dota and isn't talking shit out his ass. We obviously don't talk about mafia at all but it's one of the reasons I'm a bit uncertain about Wiggles and one of the reasons I'm not giving that much about the "Wiggles usually does more as town".

Are you voting wiggles or not because you waffling about this is not exactly inspiring.


I am. I'm having my doubts but I don't see an alternative.

Zelblade because of my most recent post is out of the question imo.
WBG doesn't seem to get support from anyone else although I'd love to seem him dead.
And well Wiggles is the only other realistic option imo.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
December 20 2012 21:34 GMT
#515
On December 21 2012 06:32 debears wrote:
Lets not lynch wiggles his activity and fighting against sheeps makes me think more lilely town

##unvote
##vote zelblade


Unless anyone wants to join me with iamp


right, because activity when dealing with being lynched yourself and fighting against sheeps is something a mafia would never do.

Why do I think you're town again?
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
December 20 2012 21:37 GMT
#520
Noone's shooting Zelblade.

If we have a vig that vig shoots debears 100%. Anything else and I'll slap people postgame.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
December 20 2012 21:55 GMT
#525
yeah. that's the kind of thing we need...
Let's just screw this and hope we're correct :3
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
December 20 2012 22:32 GMT
#539
I no longer think you are town right now given what you posted recently. But yeah even if you're town I want you dead because you are an unreadable drazerk that noone will be able to read in the near future who is hurting town no matter of alignment, which is the reason I want you shot.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
December 20 2012 23:04 GMT
#544
that's fine, as long as you're making posts like these:
On December 21 2012 06:32 debears wrote:
Lets not lynch wiggles his activity and fighting against sheeps makes me think more lilely town

##unvote
##vote zelblade


Unless anyone wants to join me with iamp


I don't really need you to do cases.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
December 20 2012 23:07 GMT
#546
On December 21 2012 08:05 debears wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2012 08:04 Toadesstern wrote:
that's fine, as long as you're making posts like these:
On December 21 2012 06:32 debears wrote:
Lets not lynch wiggles his activity and fighting against sheeps makes me think more lilely town

##unvote
##vote zelblade


Unless anyone wants to join me with iamp


I don't really need you to do cases.


Cuz your scum of course. Scum can't have townies like me going around ams makng cases


no because I don't want anyone who posts something like that to make cases, ever.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
December 20 2012 23:07 GMT
#547
not saying Wiggles can't be town, I'm having my own doubts but the reasoning is the worst one I've ever seen. EVER.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
December 21 2012 00:19 GMT
#580
Got it all figured out. Toad + Palmar + iamP + Wiggles are mafia and it's 4 vs rest according to debears
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
December 21 2012 00:23 GMT
#583
On December 21 2012 09:22 debears wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2012 09:19 Toadesstern wrote:
Got it all figured out. Toad + Palmar + iamP + Wiggles are mafia and it's 4 vs rest according to debears


hmm? Why is palmar on that list?


because he tried to get Wiggles lynched instead of iamP and me.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
December 21 2012 00:59 GMT
#590
I'd like to know Palmars opinion on debears right now. I know I said that I don't see a mafia put that much effort into a game but I really can't see him being town anymore with all the shit he said recently.

I mean, if you want you can put it in the 1 hour between night and d2 if you don't want to influence stuff but I highly doubt that mafia is going to shoot him :p
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
December 21 2012 01:30 GMT
#595
On December 21 2012 10:19 debears wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2012 10:01 yamato77 wrote:
Eywa is either dumb or scum. don't know which.

debears is the lynch tomorrow


And why is that?


Question: Do you honestly still believe I am mafia? I'm not going to say I played a good d1 or anything like that because Palmars the one who did but I think I was something like the 3rd guy voting Wiggles when WBG was still leading in votes.
Do you really think I would have voted Wiggles so easily telling people that we should trust Palmar because he's the one most trustworthy out of WBG-Wiggles-Palmar ?

Do you really think that's what I'd do as mafia, especially considering the timing of my posts?
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
December 21 2012 02:17 GMT
#597
On December 21 2012 11:01 Morbidius wrote:
Some thoughts so far:
Problably town:
Sciberbia
Palmar
leaning town:
Yamato
Vivax
WBG
Leaning scum:
Stutters
Debears
I need more time to make reads on the ones i didn't mention.


What is making Sciberbia, Yamato, Vivax and WBG town in comparison to that it's apparently not even worth to list me there?
I don't disagree with most of it it's just strange.

Clearly it can't be their votes or their early votes on Wiggles, nor can it be their "behavior" when it came to voting, so I guess it has nothing to do with the Wiggles lynch and is just reads based while ignoring what happened at the deadline?
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
December 21 2012 02:29 GMT
#600
On December 21 2012 11:18 debears wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2012 10:30 Toadesstern wrote:
On December 21 2012 10:19 debears wrote:
On December 21 2012 10:01 yamato77 wrote:
Eywa is either dumb or scum. don't know which.

debears is the lynch tomorrow


And why is that?


Question: Do you honestly still believe I am mafia? I'm not going to say I played a good d1 or anything like that because Palmars the one who did but I think I was something like the 3rd guy voting Wiggles when WBG was still leading in votes.
Do you really think I would have voted Wiggles so easily telling people that we should trust Palmar because he's the one most trustworthy out of WBG-Wiggles-Palmar ?

Do you really think that's what I'd do as mafia, especially considering the timing of my posts?


As I said, you all have a clean slate

Palmar and yamato are town

So you think I bussed Wiggles d1 when WBG was still leading in votes being the 3rd (or something like that) guy to switch telling people to trust Palmar on this one?
All that while being concerned about the lynch as I kept on talking with people to try and understand what's going on, especially with wiggles to see what he's going to write (like when I asked about what he thinks about Palmar+WBG+Wiggles+myself) ?

And you honestly didn't undestand why I said that according to you team mafia is palmar + me + Wiggles + iamp against the rest? You're joking, right?
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
December 21 2012 14:23 GMT
#631
On December 21 2012 13:03 Promethelax wrote:
[...]

Toad: I think I saw you asking Wiggles about his reads on you/Palmar/WBG what are your thoughts on his answers now that he has flipped? What are your thoughts on the other two guys? You three are the vets I respect most who are in this game and I'd like reads from all three of you on the other two.

[...]

I considered it incredibly weird that Wiggles wasn't pushing or at least scared of any of us 3. He answered trying to dodge the question, not willing to say something concrete, basicly saying that he doesn't want to lynch any of us. Completly ignoring bugs, completly ignoring me, saying Palmar MIGHT be a lynch later on.
So that was one of the reasons I was reassured about the Wiggles-lynch. Also he kept talking the way I accused him to talk: political correctness, without getting to a point to please the masses with cute phrases, might have also been him being from Canada though :p

About us 3 I still feel bad about WBG but saying I want to lynch him would be incredibly retarded :p
Palmar looks obviously good and I am town, so no need to talk about the two of us (from my point of view). I really don't think team mafia consists of WBG + Wiggles, so we leave him alive because the only way for my early read on him to be correct is if he flips SK and there's just no reason to search for an SK so early on when we don't need to and don't even know what the NK's look like.

Basicly it's like this: If we / you guys lynch two more mafias and the game is not over we lynch Bugs. As long as that scenario doesn't seem to appear we drag him along.

About the other 2 mafias + Show Spoiler [click me] +
yeah... I don't know the number of mafias in the game but let's be honst...
I'd say we should look into analyzing votes. Late Wiggles-voter or people who didn't vote Wiggles at all are considered nasty for now.
If I had to make a call right now I'd say morb + debears but I haven't looked to much into morb at all, so it's more of a gut-feeling. I really didn't like his weird vote.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
December 21 2012 14:26 GMT
#632
On December 21 2012 18:40 wherebugsgo wrote:
that and my opinion pinballed every time someone new said something about Wiggles. Most of the time it was just meaningless air and no one saw what I saw about wiggles.

One thing that was especially weird was Toad's comment on wiggles. I had noticed that wiggles was playing dota instead of being on here, and that drew a small concern for me (but I usually don't use out-of-game elements anymore to catch people, otherwise I might have mentioned it). However, Toad actually defended Wiggles on that front, which is just weird. I expected anyone who saw Wiggles playing dota and not posting here to call him scum.


So you think I'd get in here and tell people that Wiggles is mafia because he was playing dota, like I myself did as well? That doesn't seem to make sense.
I wasn't defending him either, I just mentioned it and stated that it was part of my earlier doubts.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
December 21 2012 15:03 GMT
#636
On December 21 2012 23:40 wherebugsgo wrote:
this is c9++, the # of mafia is almost certainly 3. SK doesn't really matter for now, unless we see 2 kills.

Show nested quote +
On December 21 2012 23:26 Toadesstern wrote:
On December 21 2012 18:40 wherebugsgo wrote:
that and my opinion pinballed every time someone new said something about Wiggles. Most of the time it was just meaningless air and no one saw what I saw about wiggles.

One thing that was especially weird was Toad's comment on wiggles. I had noticed that wiggles was playing dota instead of being on here, and that drew a small concern for me (but I usually don't use out-of-game elements anymore to catch people, otherwise I might have mentioned it). However, Toad actually defended Wiggles on that front, which is just weird. I expected anyone who saw Wiggles playing dota and not posting here to call him scum.


So you think I'd get in here and tell people that Wiggles is mafia because he was playing dota, like I myself did as well? That doesn't seem to make sense.
I wasn't defending him either, I just mentioned it and stated that it was part of my earlier doubts.


Well, you did bus VE in LI. It's not out of the ordinary for you to do something incredibly stupid as scum. At this point it's not likely, but I just found it strange that you chose him playing dota as a doubt of your read on him.

As for who is scum, just look no further than morbidius.


Okay let's picture the situation just to get straight what you're saying right now:

I am playing dota with Hassy and Greymist; Wiggles is joining as well and my reaction should be "that dude is playing dota instead of posting in the thread, just like I am. Given that I am doing the exact same thing as town I should probably take 'playing dota instead of posting in the thread* as a mafia-treat because frankly my sample-size I've got proves that 100% of townies I know do the exact same thing."

Sounds legit.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
December 21 2012 15:48 GMT
#638
On December 22 2012 00:23 wherebugsgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2012 23:42 Vivax wrote:
I'm reading backwards and am currently at page 28, I'm wondering why no one is noticing Morbidius strange posting.
From last to first:


you're wondering that because you didn't read the thread properly.

I've been calling out morbidius for a while now.

Show nested quote +
On December 22 2012 00:03 Toadesstern wrote:
On December 21 2012 23:40 wherebugsgo wrote:
this is c9++, the # of mafia is almost certainly 3. SK doesn't really matter for now, unless we see 2 kills.

On December 21 2012 23:26 Toadesstern wrote:
On December 21 2012 18:40 wherebugsgo wrote:
that and my opinion pinballed every time someone new said something about Wiggles. Most of the time it was just meaningless air and no one saw what I saw about wiggles.

One thing that was especially weird was Toad's comment on wiggles. I had noticed that wiggles was playing dota instead of being on here, and that drew a small concern for me (but I usually don't use out-of-game elements anymore to catch people, otherwise I might have mentioned it). However, Toad actually defended Wiggles on that front, which is just weird. I expected anyone who saw Wiggles playing dota and not posting here to call him scum.


So you think I'd get in here and tell people that Wiggles is mafia because he was playing dota, like I myself did as well? That doesn't seem to make sense.
I wasn't defending him either, I just mentioned it and stated that it was part of my earlier doubts.


Well, you did bus VE in LI. It's not out of the ordinary for you to do something incredibly stupid as scum. At this point it's not likely, but I just found it strange that you chose him playing dota as a doubt of your read on him.

As for who is scum, just look no further than morbidius.


Okay let's picture the situation just to get straight what you're saying right now:

I am playing dota with Hassy and Greymist; Wiggles is joining as well and my reaction should be "that dude is playing dota instead of posting in the thread, just like I am. Given that I am doing the exact same thing as town I should probably take 'playing dota instead of posting in the thread* as a mafia-treat because frankly my sample-size I've got proves that 100% of townies I know do the exact same thing."

Sounds legit.


sometimes, you say such stupid shit, it's really fucking frustrating. This is one of those moments.

Here's the difference:

At the time I made the observation, you were posting. He was not.

Get it?



I know that I posted more than Wiggles and you should know that posting a bunch isn't indicating anything at all when we're talking about me, so we're left alone with the Dota-observation.

I posted this to make you think about my situation because you said I should have considered it weird. Maybe it was from your point of view but it simply wasn't for me.
I didn't see him play dota. I actively played dota with him myself, being on skype and all. Calling him out on that while I'm playing dota myself, WITH HIM, while I'm part of the reason he's playing (alongside with Hassy and Greymist) would be the most backwards thing ever.

Anyways this is going nowhere. You apparently think I should have considered it weird. I don't. Not that shitting up the thread is a realistic threat during night-phases but I'm already posting way more than I wanted to
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
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