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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
December 14 2012 16:17 GMT
#521
Oh, the only information I really have is that (I think) whatever it did will happen at daypost.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
December 14 2012 16:21 GMT
#522
Hey marv could I have your updated read on austin? Still think it's bs or starting to see my way?
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
December 14 2012 16:23 GMT
#523
On December 15 2012 01:21 slOosh wrote:
Hey marv could I have your updated read on austin? Still think it's bs or starting to see my way?


I did think about it a little more, and I'm not sure I completely accept what you said. The fact there was no reason for austin to do what he did as scum isn't a reason not to. austin loves 'plays'. What good did austin's power do? We ended up policy lynching kenpachi.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
December 14 2012 16:25 GMT
#524
Really I mostly agree with Dieno (whether he's scum or not). A policy lynch on austin on the chances he's scum and for confirming 3 townies would have been a good play.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Dienosore
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Brunei Darussalam622 Posts
December 14 2012 16:45 GMT
#525
We really didn't have any good candidates for our lynch, that's why it was so tough. It was more like pick the least worst option.

We should start the discussion on who we want swap, and maybe this time have a backup just in case Clarity decides he wants to play interdimensional puppet master again. Any volunteers?
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
December 14 2012 16:47 GMT
#526
On December 15 2012 01:23 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2012 01:21 slOosh wrote:
Hey marv could I have your updated read on austin? Still think it's bs or starting to see my way?


I did think about it a little more, and I'm not sure I completely accept what you said. The fact there was no reason for austin to do what he did as scum isn't a reason not to. austin loves 'plays'. What good did austin's power do? We ended up policy lynching kenpachi.

You say that as if it was solely his fault that Kenpachi was lynched. Motivations are separate from results, and I don't think his motivations are scum driven. He carves out three people who cannot be lynched before him, which limits scum mislynch options and also drives lynch focus on himself if any of these three players look suspect. Plus there is the "let's just lynch him to confirm 3 people". All these things greatly diminish scum's ability to play, and the only upside to this whole thing is maybe "town credit" but that's like bussing your teammate before anyone starts suspecting them gives "town credit". The only way his play makes sense is if crossfire99 is scum, since the lynch was wavering and could have snowballed onto him, but I'm finding that austin's consistency / explanations outweigh that.
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
December 14 2012 16:49 GMT
#527
On December 15 2012 01:45 Dienosore wrote:
We really didn't have any good candidates for our lynch, that's why it was so tough. It was more like pick the least worst option.

We should start the discussion on who we want swap, and maybe this time have a backup just in case Clarity decides he wants to play interdimensional puppet master again. Any volunteers?

Do you think clarity isn't town?
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
December 14 2012 16:49 GMT
#528
On December 15 2012 01:45 Dienosore wrote:
We really didn't have any good candidates for our lynch, that's why it was so tough. It was more like pick the least worst option.

We should start the discussion on who we want swap, and maybe this time have a backup just in case Clarity decides he wants to play interdimensional puppet master again. Any volunteers?


I liked my choices, I just didn't expect Foolish to follow
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
December 14 2012 16:50 GMT
#529
On December 15 2012 01:47 slOosh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2012 01:23 marvellosity wrote:
On December 15 2012 01:21 slOosh wrote:
Hey marv could I have your updated read on austin? Still think it's bs or starting to see my way?


I did think about it a little more, and I'm not sure I completely accept what you said. The fact there was no reason for austin to do what he did as scum isn't a reason not to. austin loves 'plays'. What good did austin's power do? We ended up policy lynching kenpachi.

You say that as if it was solely his fault that Kenpachi was lynched. Motivations are separate from results, and I don't think his motivations are scum driven. He carves out three people who cannot be lynched before him, which limits scum mislynch options and also drives lynch focus on himself if any of these three players look suspect. Plus there is the "let's just lynch him to confirm 3 people". All these things greatly diminish scum's ability to play, and the only upside to this whole thing is maybe "town credit" but that's like bussing your teammate before anyone starts suspecting them gives "town credit". The only way his play makes sense is if crossfire99 is scum, since the lynch was wavering and could have snowballed onto him, but I'm finding that austin's consistency / explanations outweigh that.


It's easy to pick out townies when you're scum.

I was the only one who came into the thread from either world raging about his checks, so from a perspective it was a well-calculated play APART from marv.

Plus we DIDN'T lynch him just to confirm 3 people, like we should have. Ugh. Simplest solution is that he's town. I'm just unhappy about how it all went down but I can't prove anything so I don't know that i can actually pursue it.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Dienosore
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Brunei Darussalam622 Posts
December 14 2012 17:05 GMT
#530
I don't know what Clarity is, Sloosh. Omnipresence in both worlds, ability to hard swap people. It seems he has great power. Too much for a towny. However, I do believe he had no idea Fool was going to get swapped too, which would mean his play looks to be overall town-driven. His curious disappearance during our time of strife was explained by an "internet outage", which could either just be an honest mistake (most likely) or a scum motivated tactic to cause more chaos (less likely).

Regardless, he is definitely a power role of some sort in this game, and should step up and embrace it.
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
December 14 2012 17:40 GMT
#531
On December 15 2012 02:05 Dienosore wrote:
I don't know what Clarity is, Sloosh. Omnipresence in both worlds, ability to hard swap people. It seems he has great power. Too much for a towny. However, I do believe he had no idea Fool was going to get swapped too, which would mean his play looks to be overall town-driven. His curious disappearance during our time of strife was explained by an "internet outage", which could either just be an honest mistake (most likely) or a scum motivated tactic to cause more chaos (less likely).

Regardless, he is definitely a power role of some sort in this game, and should step up and embrace it.

If you were clarity's role, how would you "step up and embrace it"? Who would you swap?
Dienosore
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Brunei Darussalam622 Posts
December 14 2012 18:54 GMT
#532
Well since Clarity is in both worlds, it immediately puts him in an odd spot. My first knee-jerk reaction is to say KILL THE WEIRDO! I'd assume, then, that he has some sort of protection, because I doubt I'm the only one who has had this thought. Since I'm assuming he probably can't straight up die to KP, maybe a lynch would do it. If this is the case, then he needs to step up to the plate and prove his worth to the town by taking the lead in our discussions.

To Clarity's credit, his discussion so far and his reasoning for his swap seem to be pro-town. His regret towards accidentally shipping our #1 scumread and only real candidate for lynch to the other side seems genuine. I just wish he would use his omnipresent position to play a more active role in the game.

As for our swap, I do not know. That is why I asked for volunteers. Perhaps there is someone on our side like Hassy who will benefit from being on the other world. Do you have any ideas, Sloosh?
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
December 14 2012 19:07 GMT
#533
I mean.... To be fair Dieno I am in three games. (brought it on myself, note pregame, it's grey having a little fun I imagine)
I do plan on being more active here, yesterday was just exceptionally busy for me and when I had time (in the middle of my night) I had no internets. I mean, believe that or not we can all agree I'd at least put my votes down if I wanted to disappear for a while as scum?

Dieno I would like you to answer Sloosh's question though.
On December 15 2012 02:40 slOosh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2012 02:05 Dienosore wrote:
I don't know what Clarity is, Sloosh. Omnipresence in both worlds, ability to hard swap people. It seems he has great power. Too much for a towny. However, I do believe he had no idea Fool was going to get swapped too, which would mean his play looks to be overall town-driven. His curious disappearance during our time of strife was explained by an "internet outage", which could either just be an honest mistake (most likely) or a scum motivated tactic to cause more chaos (less likely).

Regardless, he is definitely a power role of some sort in this game, and should step up and embrace it.

If you were clarity's role, how would you "step up and embrace it"? Who would you swap?

FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
December 14 2012 19:37 GMT
#534
Ugh...wrong thread first time


I kinda....don't have my spirit yet...

I was going to tell you guys what I had so we could discuss how to use it best for tonight, but iGrok and Grey are offline
"These guys are mindfucking me into a sex coma" | "Mayonnaise is a must-have lubricant when performing necrophilia"
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
December 14 2012 19:40 GMT
#535
Does that mean you're not sure what you're supposed to get? Seems to me they would give you whatever you were supposed to get right after you got swapped, right? We know they were around during that time.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
December 14 2012 19:43 GMT
#536
Things I CAN confirm though. I have 15 spirits, like Lucy does in the anime. Odds are Plus and Lyra are totally useless unless you want someone to sing to you.

That leaves the other 13. I'd put money on Sagittarius being my vig shot, Gemini making me like Clarity for a night and Crux being a DT check. Odds are Aries will be a medic as well. As for the other 9...a lot of the spirits are versatile so I can't totally comment, but none of them suck. I reckon there's only 2 duds in there

Aquarius may be a double-edged sword though, since she sort of hates Lucy

"These guys are mindfucking me into a sex coma" | "Mayonnaise is a must-have lubricant when performing necrophilia"
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
December 14 2012 20:10 GMT
#537
@ Dieno
Please give an honest attempt at answering the question beyond "I dunno what do you think?".

@ Hassy
So you have no idea what each spirit does? Will you be guessing like marv?
Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
December 14 2012 20:23 GMT
#538
I'll know when I get my key. I just need to get it.
"These guys are mindfucking me into a sex coma" | "Mayonnaise is a must-have lubricant when performing necrophilia"
Dienosore
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Brunei Darussalam622 Posts
December 14 2012 20:42 GMT
#539
Sloosh, I feel I've already made my position clear, but I'll answer you one last time just to be sure. We should allow people more time to step up and volunteer for the swap. If no one comes forward and volunteers, we can just do what we did again for the lynch because it wont matter anyway. I suggest we at least try and land on a towny to balance the town/mafia ratio in iSL.

Plus, if people start to volunteer, it will give us something to talk about and maybe keep this thread from turning into a ghost-town.
Dienosore
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Brunei Darussalam622 Posts
December 14 2012 20:46 GMT
#540
I wonder what would happen if we voted to swap clarity! It might overload the system and create some sort of stargate that links us to other worlds. Perhaps a hidden mafia running parallel to our parallels on a different dimension (aka another forum)?
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