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He's given us absolutely nothing to base his alignment on (aside from supporting lurking, which is WIFOM at best). He's not even putting in a desultory effort to find scum. I didn't push for a lynch on him day 1 because he at least was posting then and I hoped his activity would increase, but this is completely ridiculous. I know scum has a motive to lurk whereas town doesn't (but often does anyway), but at this rate I'll never have a better read on him than coinflip. And there is no way in hell I want Threesr in the game when and if we hit LYLO, he'll be unreadable as scum and a liability as town. | ||
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I call it a "policy lynch" because he hasn't done anything in particular to make me think he's scum except for doing nothing at all. Which, given there was no attention on him day 2, is in retrospect a pretty strong tell. | ||
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As for changing his read on you, your post history is small enough that he could convincingly just go back on that whenever it's convenient for him. | ||
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On December 23 2012 21:16 Orangeremi wrote: My explanation for voting FC over Spag is I was convinced Spag was town after reading his long final post before being lynched. At that point I felt it was a toss-up between FC and Kickstart in my mind and I just voted to avoid voting no-lynch (since people seemed to not want me to). I would take all the players I've mentioned with a grain of salt, especially since I haven't made a case for any of them. I guess I can buy that. Your content level is still a problem for me, but Lord knows you're not the worst offender on that count. Could you give your own summary of why you think Omni's scum? I know Chromatic's covered a fair bit of the ground already, but I'd like to hear it in your own words. ##Unvote Gonna have to think about where my vote goes next. | ||
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But, to summarise my thoughts (besides the above) on each of them: Omni's VT claim is really quite fishy. Seems almost too obvious, but the simplest solution is generally the best. Shz's behaviour in general (wanting to lynch based only on information gained, that list post back a page or two) rubs me the wrong way. Orangeremi hasn't made any whoopsies like these but he's lurked a lot harder. Threesr has been Threesr. Maybe we'll get really, really lucky and he'll be scum, forget to vote, and get modkilled today. I can dream  FatChunk hasn't posted much at all, but he has committed to stuff a little more. Sylencia has been MIA most of the game. Really not impressed with his performance day 2, when he said he'd be free. Kickstart likewise hasn't done a whole lot, but he has pressured a little. And looking at that list, my choice is fairly clear. ##Vote: OmniEulogy The difference between Omni and the rest of that list is basically the VT claim. I don't like it at all. And I don't think there's a mind looking for scum behind his play. | ||
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Well, let's start with your scumreads. Though what I would have really liked to see was you looking for scum and gathering information on your own initiative without being prompted. | ||
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On December 24 2012 07:15 OmniEulogy wrote: If you want to talk about inconvenient beliefs he's been defending me for the last 2 hours on the belief that I'm town. He made a lot of good points that people ignore. He came to the same conclusion I did, that we need the lurkers to be forced into activity to find anything out otherwise we're going to keep lynching townies. I guess that doesn't count. Damn me, you two aren't helping your "not scum together" case. | ||
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If you want to talk about inconvenient beliefs he's been defending me for the last 2 hours on the belief that I'm town. He made a lot of good points that people ignore. "A lot" of good points? This is the only one I can find: If Omni is scum, the only explanation for his Spaghetti vote would be that Corazon is scum too. Why would he not jump on the Corazon wagon otherwise? Scum wants to kill anyone besides scum, so why start confusion when you just can take the safe bet without getting noticed. M conclusion is: If Omni is scum, Corazon has to be too. But then I don't get why he should still make a case against Cora, even if he backpaddled later? Why draw attenion to your buddy at all? There's also no reason NOT to vote for Spag, if Corazon and Spag are both town. All he has to do is read the Spag case, see that it makes sense and that the Corazon case has mostly stalled, and jump on early. Calling Omni town based on this and only this is jumping to conclusions. | ||
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On December 24 2012 07:55 OmniEulogy wrote: ah I meant a lot of good points in general not just in my defense. he's really picked it up D2. Like what? | ||
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If you're scum you can do what you like, of course. | ||
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On December 24 2012 08:25 OmniEulogy wrote: Basically I think we're screwed. Start looking at what happens when I flip VT cause I honestly think the scum have played this perfectly. We didn't go after the lurkers, have lost a massive amount of information and because we didn't have information we turned on each other and made imaginary cases on ourselves because we don't have a clue about the others. Unfortunately, I think you're right. Still can't chase anyone else at this point today (too much WIFOM, and besides I doubt there's enough people here). At this rate Threesr will be modkilled - if he flips green (or blue :/ ) we will be in very deep s***. | ||
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On December 24 2012 08:26 OmniEulogy wrote: So in these remaining 40 minutes what do you think Aqua? you might as well believe I'm town and try to pinball some idea's off me, if I flip scum you can ignore it but otherwise it'll all be true lol
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On December 24 2012 08:31 Chromatically wrote: What? You don't think that Omni is scum? Let's say he's dying like I think a town player would die. Like I said, though, scum might do this in hopes of last-minute deliverance. And if there was a competing wagon I'd feel a lot happier about the outcome of this day. | ||
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