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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 16 2012 22:40 GMT
#854
Nah. Die scum.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 16 2012 22:46 GMT
#855
Oh, and RIP DarthPunk

Way to fight the good fight
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 16 2012 22:47 GMT
#857
HAHAHAHAHA ROFL

Wow

GG no RE
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 16 2012 22:49 GMT
#859
I mean even if that's not a slip, my case should just about seal the deal on him.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 16 2012 22:50 GMT
#861
Nah. Die scum.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 16 2012 22:53 GMT
#866
On December 17 2012 07:52 Eywa- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2012 07:46 thrawn2112 wrote:
he also called you town during the middle of all that

On December 17 2012 05:27 Eywa- wrote:
On December 17 2012 05:18 Hapahauli wrote:
On December 17 2012 05:15 Eywa- wrote:
On December 17 2012 05:11 Hapahauli wrote:
On December 17 2012 05:04 Eywa- wrote:
On December 17 2012 05:02 Hapahauli wrote:
I'm kinda feeling an Eywa lynch at the moment. His "case" on me aside, this post rather scares me:

On December 17 2012 04:42 Eywa- wrote:
Civilian lynch: imminent.


The hell is this?

Means you guys are going to lynch an acolyte... Also, you're reacting offensively to the fact I called you out, yet you expect it due to the nature of your posts. Your entire strategy seems to be around looking like a mafia member.


It's disturbing that you know JX's alignment without having provided any analysis on him.

##Vote Eywa

Also, I really don't understand much of your case on me. You accuse me of bandwaggon hopping, when I've been going around and actively getting people to post. My default strategy as town is to go around and pressure as many players as I can to get discussion going. It's on full display in any of my past town games, and I invite you to take a look through my game-history.

In addition, you feel that I'm being the "friendly" mafia, when in fact I'm going around and being anything but. Voting and pressuring multiple players is not the way to be "friendly" in this game, and you're vastly twisting my motives with a generic "bandwagoning" term.

1) Nobody should care about your past games, trying to get people to base your play off of past games is pretty scum considering you can be applying the same strategy from either side.
2) You've accused 5-6 different people in today, how is that not band wagon hopping?
3) You expected people to call you out based on your senseless accusations thrown left and right, why act as though it's a surprise all of a sudden?


I've accused 5-6 people today since they've all been shitty lurkers. The best way to get people to post is to accuse them of being mafia - then they come out of the woodworks and post.

You act like I think all my targets now are mafia. I don't. In fact I'm leaning town on most of my previous targets.

But please explain your read on JX, and how you pulled that out of your ass without EVER having posted on him in your filter.


On December 15 2012 10:26 Djodref wrote:
Hello guys !

I would like to emphasize something very important for this game.



Never give a single townread this game !




For obvious reasons, because of the Witch Hunter, we should avoid to get a consensus that a player is town. Because if he is town, there are good chances for him to get insta-shoot by the mafia.

On the same note, I don't want to see anybody propose a idea or plan on how to cast our witchcraft votes. Never speak about these votes. Keeping everything for you is the best solution.

Other than that, I would like everybody to give a little hindsight of their game experience, especially newbies, if there are some.

Regarding me, you can find all my previous games on these forums (only forum games I've ever played) in my profile.





On December 15 2012 10:29 Djodref wrote:
On December 15 2012 07:08 MrZentor wrote:
##Vote MrZentor

Because I can.


Because mafia tends to do that.

##Vote MrZentor


On December 15 2012 10:44 Djodref wrote:
Yeah, okay, but I really think that we should avoid it if we can.
I know it's going to be very difficult, but we have to refrain ourselves from doing it while the Witch Hunter is alive...


On December 15 2012 10:55 Djodref wrote:
On December 15 2012 10:49 Hapahauli wrote:
On December 15 2012 10:44 Djodref wrote:
Yeah, okay, but I really think that we should avoid it if we can.
I know it's going to be very difficult, but we have to refrain ourselves from doing it while the Witch Hunter is alive...


The thing is that you can't live in fear of things like that. I mean when it really comes down to it... who cares about blue roles? A town can win without blues. All we can do is play the game and try to find mafia. If someone gets shot, so be it.

In fact I'm half tempted at this point to have a policy of never voting blues. That way, we'd have a 10-3 setup of 3 mafia goons vs 10 VTs, which IMO is town favored.


You can only vote for one no-vote.
Do you have even Witchcraft vote Hapa ? Maybe you would be more interested in the way you have to use them if you did ?

##Unvote
##Vote Hapa


On December 15 2012 11:07 Hapahauli wrote:
Actually you know what?

##Vote Djodref

There's no reason you should be this obsessed with blues and the witchhunter unless you're mafia yourself. On top of this, you've pushed a plan that's anti-scumhunting.



On December 15 2012 11:05 DarthPunk wrote:
On December 15 2012 10:55 Djodref wrote:
On December 15 2012 10:49 Hapahauli wrote:
On December 15 2012 10:44 Djodref wrote:
Yeah, okay, but I really think that we should avoid it if we can.
I know it's going to be very difficult, but we have to refrain ourselves from doing it while the Witch Hunter is alive...


The thing is that you can't live in fear of things like that. I mean when it really comes down to it... who cares about blue roles? A town can win without blues. All we can do is play the game and try to find mafia. If someone gets shot, so be it.

In fact I'm half tempted at this point to have a policy of never voting blues. That way, we'd have a 10-3 setup of 3 mafia goons vs 10 VTs, which IMO is town favored.


You can only vote for one no-vote.
Do you have even Witchcraft vote Hapa ? Maybe you would be more interested in the way you have to use them if you did ?

##Unvote
##Vote Hapa


Wow your an idiot.

##Vote: Djodref.

Votes Zentor for meaningless self vote. That was obviously meaningless.

Doesn't want to give town reads which is just ridiculous.

Votes for Hapa whom actually brings up a really good point. 13-3 all vt all goon is actually super town favored.
There is no way a rational townie could believe hapa is scum based on the game so far.

So either Djo is being retarded or he is scum. Either way that is enough to get my vote day one.



On December 15 2012 11:06 DarthPunk wrote:
EBWOP:

##Vote: Djodref

On December 15 2012 11:47 DarthPunk wrote:
Holy shit. Djo be scummy. Look at that un-OMGUS as soon as Hapa unvotes. also. Both his votes have been weak as shit.

Djo. Are scum or town less likely to read the OP?


On December 15 2012 11:50 Hapahauli wrote:
DP is scum btw.

##Vote DarthPunk



Are you done lying?.. How do you expect me not to accuse you especially after you make a case for yourself which is blatant lies. That's 1, 2, 3 non-lurkers (if you count myself which you've jumped on... I can find more, didn't feel like picking through the whole thread. You have yet to jump on a lurker.

I don't know why you guys are standing for a townie that is supposedly "helping the town by bringing lurkers to post through accusing them" when that reason is a blatant lie.


How is that a slip?


Nah. Die Scum.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 16 2012 22:55 GMT
#868
On December 17 2012 07:54 Eywa- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2012 07:53 Hapahauli wrote:
On December 17 2012 07:52 Eywa- wrote:
On December 17 2012 07:46 thrawn2112 wrote:
he also called you town during the middle of all that

On December 17 2012 05:27 Eywa- wrote:
On December 17 2012 05:18 Hapahauli wrote:
On December 17 2012 05:15 Eywa- wrote:
On December 17 2012 05:11 Hapahauli wrote:
On December 17 2012 05:04 Eywa- wrote:
On December 17 2012 05:02 Hapahauli wrote:
I'm kinda feeling an Eywa lynch at the moment. His "case" on me aside, this post rather scares me:

[quote]

The hell is this?

Means you guys are going to lynch an acolyte... Also, you're reacting offensively to the fact I called you out, yet you expect it due to the nature of your posts. Your entire strategy seems to be around looking like a mafia member.


It's disturbing that you know JX's alignment without having provided any analysis on him.

##Vote Eywa

Also, I really don't understand much of your case on me. You accuse me of bandwaggon hopping, when I've been going around and actively getting people to post. My default strategy as town is to go around and pressure as many players as I can to get discussion going. It's on full display in any of my past town games, and I invite you to take a look through my game-history.

In addition, you feel that I'm being the "friendly" mafia, when in fact I'm going around and being anything but. Voting and pressuring multiple players is not the way to be "friendly" in this game, and you're vastly twisting my motives with a generic "bandwagoning" term.

1) Nobody should care about your past games, trying to get people to base your play off of past games is pretty scum considering you can be applying the same strategy from either side.
2) You've accused 5-6 different people in today, how is that not band wagon hopping?
3) You expected people to call you out based on your senseless accusations thrown left and right, why act as though it's a surprise all of a sudden?


I've accused 5-6 people today since they've all been shitty lurkers. The best way to get people to post is to accuse them of being mafia - then they come out of the woodworks and post.

You act like I think all my targets now are mafia. I don't. In fact I'm leaning town on most of my previous targets.

But please explain your read on JX, and how you pulled that out of your ass without EVER having posted on him in your filter.


On December 15 2012 10:26 Djodref wrote:
Hello guys !

I would like to emphasize something very important for this game.



Never give a single townread this game !




For obvious reasons, because of the Witch Hunter, we should avoid to get a consensus that a player is town. Because if he is town, there are good chances for him to get insta-shoot by the mafia.

On the same note, I don't want to see anybody propose a idea or plan on how to cast our witchcraft votes. Never speak about these votes. Keeping everything for you is the best solution.

Other than that, I would like everybody to give a little hindsight of their game experience, especially newbies, if there are some.

Regarding me, you can find all my previous games on these forums (only forum games I've ever played) in my profile.





On December 15 2012 10:29 Djodref wrote:
On December 15 2012 07:08 MrZentor wrote:
##Vote MrZentor

Because I can.


Because mafia tends to do that.

##Vote MrZentor


On December 15 2012 10:44 Djodref wrote:
Yeah, okay, but I really think that we should avoid it if we can.
I know it's going to be very difficult, but we have to refrain ourselves from doing it while the Witch Hunter is alive...


On December 15 2012 10:55 Djodref wrote:
On December 15 2012 10:49 Hapahauli wrote:
On December 15 2012 10:44 Djodref wrote:
Yeah, okay, but I really think that we should avoid it if we can.
I know it's going to be very difficult, but we have to refrain ourselves from doing it while the Witch Hunter is alive...


The thing is that you can't live in fear of things like that. I mean when it really comes down to it... who cares about blue roles? A town can win without blues. All we can do is play the game and try to find mafia. If someone gets shot, so be it.

In fact I'm half tempted at this point to have a policy of never voting blues. That way, we'd have a 10-3 setup of 3 mafia goons vs 10 VTs, which IMO is town favored.


You can only vote for one no-vote.
Do you have even Witchcraft vote Hapa ? Maybe you would be more interested in the way you have to use them if you did ?

##Unvote
##Vote Hapa


On December 15 2012 11:07 Hapahauli wrote:
Actually you know what?

##Vote Djodref

There's no reason you should be this obsessed with blues and the witchhunter unless you're mafia yourself. On top of this, you've pushed a plan that's anti-scumhunting.



On December 15 2012 11:05 DarthPunk wrote:
On December 15 2012 10:55 Djodref wrote:
On December 15 2012 10:49 Hapahauli wrote:
On December 15 2012 10:44 Djodref wrote:
Yeah, okay, but I really think that we should avoid it if we can.
I know it's going to be very difficult, but we have to refrain ourselves from doing it while the Witch Hunter is alive...


The thing is that you can't live in fear of things like that. I mean when it really comes down to it... who cares about blue roles? A town can win without blues. All we can do is play the game and try to find mafia. If someone gets shot, so be it.

In fact I'm half tempted at this point to have a policy of never voting blues. That way, we'd have a 10-3 setup of 3 mafia goons vs 10 VTs, which IMO is town favored.


You can only vote for one no-vote.
Do you have even Witchcraft vote Hapa ? Maybe you would be more interested in the way you have to use them if you did ?

##Unvote
##Vote Hapa


Wow your an idiot.

##Vote: Djodref.

Votes Zentor for meaningless self vote. That was obviously meaningless.

Doesn't want to give town reads which is just ridiculous.

Votes for Hapa whom actually brings up a really good point. 13-3 all vt all goon is actually super town favored.
There is no way a rational townie could believe hapa is scum based on the game so far.

So either Djo is being retarded or he is scum. Either way that is enough to get my vote day one.



On December 15 2012 11:06 DarthPunk wrote:
EBWOP:

##Vote: Djodref

On December 15 2012 11:47 DarthPunk wrote:
Holy shit. Djo be scummy. Look at that un-OMGUS as soon as Hapa unvotes. also. Both his votes have been weak as shit.

Djo. Are scum or town less likely to read the OP?


On December 15 2012 11:50 Hapahauli wrote:
DP is scum btw.

##Vote DarthPunk



Are you done lying?.. How do you expect me not to accuse you especially after you make a case for yourself which is blatant lies. That's 1, 2, 3 non-lurkers (if you count myself which you've jumped on... I can find more, didn't feel like picking through the whole thread. You have yet to jump on a lurker.

I don't know why you guys are standing for a townie that is supposedly "helping the town by bringing lurkers to post through accusing them" when that reason is a blatant lie.


How is that a slip?


Nah. Die Scum.

You pretty much make up my point on your own, I don't see why people even consider keeping you around.


Nah. Die scum.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 16 2012 23:01 GMT
#870
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 16 2012 23:05 GMT
#873
On December 17 2012 08:04 Eywa- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2012 08:03 thrawn2112 wrote:
ewya that's all nonsense because you said he's town... are you accusing him of something right now? I can't exactly tell

He's mafia, I'll be voting for him next day.


That's cause he knows he will be alive tomorrow

Die scum.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 16 2012 23:08 GMT
#877
On December 17 2012 08:07 Eywa- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2012 08:05 Hapahauli wrote:
On December 17 2012 08:04 Eywa- wrote:
On December 17 2012 08:03 thrawn2112 wrote:
ewya that's all nonsense because you said he's town... are you accusing him of something right now? I can't exactly tell

He's mafia, I'll be voting for him next day.


That's cause he knows he will be alive tomorrow

Die scum.

Indeed, I can't be killed by mafia... They know that there is a great chance I'll be lynched next day, why would anyone go after me?


So my case is legit then? Good to know.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 17 2012 00:42 GMT
#886
On December 17 2012 09:35 kushm4sta wrote:
@hapa you got a scum game for me to read?
@thrawn are you still without a scum game?


Mario Mini Mafia (Lynched D1)
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=381440

Newbie XXI (Survived, Scum Victory)
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=351398

Liquid City Mafia (Mod-Confirmed Scum in 3 hours)
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=371260&user=47519
*Only the first page is relevant, I was trolling for most of the game.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 17 2012 00:49 GMT
#889
On December 17 2012 09:48 kushm4sta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2012 09:45 thrawn2112 wrote:
djo and kush... could both of you comment on eywa?

i think it's shit. And i don't get why hapa is basically telling him to fuck off every time he responds


I'm telling him to fuck off because he's scum.

Eywa also called me town btw.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 17 2012 00:54 GMT
#892
On December 17 2012 09:53 kushm4sta wrote:
I think a lot of Ewya's play can be explained by the fact that he thinks something is a scum tell which isn't (pressure voting)


That's not really the problem though. Read parts 2, 3, and 4 of my case please.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 17 2012 01:32 GMT
#906
@ Kush
On December 17 2012 10:19 kushm4sta wrote:
...
You should keep in mind that the time during which this happened was a chaotic shitstorm spamfest. It was not an ideal environment to discuss things.


Townies aren't scared of posting in a spamfest, since they have nothing to hide. Mafia however, are. The last 25 minutes were a time that we had no solid lynch candidate - a townie would push his top scumread to get lynched here.

Instead he did nothing. He didn't push me, and he didn't even defend Morbidius. Yet after the lynch, he goes "oh welp I told you I was right." That's pretty fucking scummy.

There was no way his scumpicks were goign to get lynched, so why would you bust his balls over not pushing something that was impossible? That pretty much covers 3 and 4


That's ridiculous. The guy was foaming at the mouth that I was scum, and didn't push his scumread. That makes no sense, regardless of how feasible me getting lynched was.

Day 1 isn't it more likely that scum would just latch on to one of the more popular lynches? Stubbornly tunneling you does not make him scum necessarily. I see town do that all the time.


Scum certainly can latch onto a popular choice, but scum don't always do that. In fact, making a huge case on a candidate who has no chance of getting lynched is another very popular choice amongst more active scum players. What better way to prevent a town from consolidating and create chaos in the thread than bringing up an entirely new suspicion at the 11th hour?

It's not that there's nothing to the case, but it's not even close to 100% certainty, and it doesn't warrant NOPE YOUR SCUM every time he tries to talk to you.
Why wouldn't you want more content from him to analyze?


There is nothing else to analyze. He's scum.

He also scumslipped, which you've ignored for like the billionth time.
On December 17 2012 05:27 Eywa- wrote:
...
Are you done lying?.. How do you expect me not to accuse you especially after you make a case for yourself which is blatant lies. That's 1, 2, 3 non-lurkers (if you count myself which you've jumped on... I can find more, didn't feel like picking through the whole thread. You have yet to jump on a lurker.

I don't know why you guys are standing for a townie that is supposedly "helping the town by bringing lurkers to post through accusing them" when that reason is a blatant lie.

a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 17 2012 01:49 GMT
#915
On December 17 2012 10:42 kushm4sta wrote:
Scumslip is kind of worrisome but it's not in any way definitive... I did the same thing earlier actually. I called you the strongest town.


Yes, but you didn't call me town and then in the same sentence express a desire to lynch me.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 17 2012 01:49 GMT
#916
On December 17 2012 10:45 kushm4sta wrote:
thrawn and hapa you two have your tongues so far up each others asses wtf is going on with that.
Thrawn how are you so sure that hapa is town?


Can I answer that for him? Because I'm the most active player here and I'm obv town.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 17 2012 01:53 GMT
#918
On December 17 2012 10:40 Eywa- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2012 10:32 Hapahauli wrote:
@ Kush
On December 17 2012 10:19 kushm4sta wrote:
...
You should keep in mind that the time during which this happened was a chaotic shitstorm spamfest. It was not an ideal environment to discuss things.


Townies aren't scared of posting in a spamfest, since they have nothing to hide. Mafia however, are. The last 25 minutes were a time that we had no solid lynch candidate - a townie would push his top scumread to get lynched here.

Instead he did nothing. He didn't push me, and he didn't even defend Morbidius. Yet after the lynch, he goes "oh welp I told you I was right." That's pretty fucking scummy.

There was no way his scumpicks were goign to get lynched, so why would you bust his balls over not pushing something that was impossible? That pretty much covers 3 and 4


That's ridiculous. The guy was foaming at the mouth that I was scum, and didn't push his scumread. That makes no sense, regardless of how feasible me getting lynched was.

Day 1 isn't it more likely that scum would just latch on to one of the more popular lynches? Stubbornly tunneling you does not make him scum necessarily. I see town do that all the time.


Scum certainly can latch onto a popular choice, but scum don't always do that. In fact, making a huge case on a candidate who has no chance of getting lynched is another very popular choice amongst more active scum players. What better way to prevent a town from consolidating and create chaos in the thread than bringing up an entirely new suspicion at the 11th hour?

It's not that there's nothing to the case, but it's not even close to 100% certainty, and it doesn't warrant NOPE YOUR SCUM every time he tries to talk to you.
Why wouldn't you want more content from him to analyze?


There is nothing else to analyze. He's scum.

He also scumslipped, which you've ignored for like the billionth time.
On December 17 2012 05:27 Eywa- wrote:
...
Are you done lying?.. How do you expect me not to accuse you especially after you make a case for yourself which is blatant lies. That's 1, 2, 3 non-lurkers (if you count myself which you've jumped on... I can find more, didn't feel like picking through the whole thread. You have yet to jump on a lurker.

I don't know why you guys are standing for a townie that is supposedly "helping the town by bringing lurkers to post through accusing them" when that reason is a blatant lie.


I did post in the last 25 minutes and laid more effort to convince people than most.

Persisting on something that is impossible is insanity.


Your efforts in the last 25 minutes were "please sway your votes." If you think that's a contribution, then I can only shake my head.

So what on earth were you trying to achieve yesterday? You were calling me scum for shits and giggles without the slightest intention to push for my lynch? That's exactly what you're saying right now.

It was in the town's best interest to not consolidate, you lead them to consolidate on various townies rather than mafia members... How is that in any way noble?


How on earth do you know that the people I voted for were townies?

You really have no grounds to accuse anyone, you're guaranteed at this point to have AT least a 50% error rate (given how many people you've accused and you've already promoted the death of a towns person who had nothing on his record to make him look suspicious.


And this makes you not scum how? The way I see it, there's a 99% chance you're scum, and a 1% chance you're an idiot.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 17 2012 01:54 GMT
#919
Hell Eywa, you can't keep your story on me straight.

First I'm a bandwagoner that follows votes around.
Now I'm a shepard that leads lynches on people.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 17 2012 01:57 GMT
#923
Don't worry my Cheesecake friend, Eywa is mafia. Discuss.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 17 2012 02:04 GMT
#928
Apparently you know that I"m a townie, yet you're pushing me anyway Eywa.

Discuss.
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