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On December 17 2012 11:28 Eywa- wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2012 11:26 Hapahauli wrote:On December 17 2012 11:18 Hapahauli wrote: You could also elaborate on that scumread on Mr. Cheesecake of yours at your leisure. At your leisure Eywa I was asked who would be next if you were to go.
That doesn't mean you can throw out a name, say that he's mafia, and not provide any reasoning for it. So why is Mr. CC mafia? Explain.
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From reading your filter it really doesn't look like you have a scumread on cheesecake
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so this is ewyas first forum gameright? and knowing that you actually still think he's scum? I looked at filter and he looks pretty obvtown to me.
djo is scum...more tomorrow. hapa or thrawn one of those is prob scum. one of the more quiet lurker people, one of those is probably scum.. I'm thinking dhs maybe jx.
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How the fuck is "I'm voting Hapa because he votes a lot of people and that seems scummy. Want to find out exactly why? Go reread the thread and find it yourself" obvtown?
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On December 17 2012 11:35 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: How the fuck is "I'm voting Hapa because he votes a lot of people and that seems scummy. Want to find out exactly why? Go reread the thread and find it yourself" obvtown? It's more so town than "I'm voting Eywa- because he voted for me" - hapa.
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On December 17 2012 11:25 Eywa- wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2012 11:23 Djodref wrote:On December 17 2012 11:17 Eywa- wrote:On December 17 2012 11:13 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:On December 17 2012 11:11 Eywa- wrote:On December 17 2012 11:10 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: lol Eywa so angry at life right now.
Everything is reading scummer Not really, the majority has yet to agree with you. And a single person has yet to agree with you... That's no problem, if they disagree with me, they lose. Typically this happens... I don't see why more faith wouldn't be put in the guy who was already proven right... I'm arguing with a couple of people who just lynched a civilian. lol I'll remember this argument for my next scumgame ^^ This assumes you can figure out which players are civilians - which you can't.
And this is something you, on the opposite, can do right now 
How did you know that Morbidius was a civilian before he was killed ? Because you are mafia and know who is townie and who is mafia of course ! Same for Hapa, you knew his alignement.
Could you tell us who are your scumbuddies please ? Is that kush ?
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On December 17 2012 11:33 kushm4sta wrote: so this is ewyas first forum gameright? and knowing that you actually still think he's scum? I looked at filter and he looks pretty obvtown to me.
djo is scum...more tomorrow. hapa or thrawn one of those is prob scum. one of the more quiet lurker people, one of those is probably scum.. I'm thinking dhs maybe jx.
@ Kush
Right now, I have you as either eywa's scum buddy hard defending him, either you going totally pants on head. I'm leaning over the first solution right now.
Please make your case against me so I can see how full of shit you are.
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On December 17 2012 11:42 Djodref wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2012 11:25 Eywa- wrote:On December 17 2012 11:23 Djodref wrote:On December 17 2012 11:17 Eywa- wrote:On December 17 2012 11:13 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:On December 17 2012 11:11 Eywa- wrote:On December 17 2012 11:10 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: lol Eywa so angry at life right now.
Everything is reading scummer Not really, the majority has yet to agree with you. And a single person has yet to agree with you... That's no problem, if they disagree with me, they lose. Typically this happens... I don't see why more faith wouldn't be put in the guy who was already proven right... I'm arguing with a couple of people who just lynched a civilian. lol I'll remember this argument for my next scumgame ^^ This assumes you can figure out which players are civilians - which you can't. And this is something you, on the opposite, can do right now  How did you know that Morbidius was a civilian before he was killed ? Because you are mafia and know who is townie and who is mafia of course ! Same for Hapa, you knew his alignement. Could you tell us who are your scumbuddies please ? Is that kush ? I already gave you 2 scumbags... Go ahead and kill them.
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On December 17 2012 11:44 Djodref wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2012 11:33 kushm4sta wrote: so this is ewyas first forum gameright? and knowing that you actually still think he's scum? I looked at filter and he looks pretty obvtown to me.
djo is scum...more tomorrow. hapa or thrawn one of those is prob scum. one of the more quiet lurker people, one of those is probably scum.. I'm thinking dhs maybe jx. @ KushRight now, I have you as either eywa's scum buddy hard defending him, either you going totally pants on head. I'm leaning over the first solution right now. Please make your case against me so I can see how full of shit you are. Any scum would have to be out of their mind to side with me right now given how hot of a target I am... I don't see how it can help them... Kush is a civilian (but of course, you can lynch him too given that civilians seem to want to lose around here).
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And somehow he knows Kush is town....
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On December 17 2012 11:48 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: And somehow he knows Kush is town.... I'm sorry, a 5 year old could guess that one, if it's beyond your capacity, then I don't see why anyone would side with your vote.
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Can you explain why Mr. CC is scum Eywa?
On December 17 2012 10:54 Eywa- wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2012 10:50 DoYouHas wrote: @Eywa - If you were to manage to get Hapa lynched tomorrow, who would be your next lynch choice given what you know now? Why? Next after hapa would be Mr. Cheesecake because he's mafia.
These are some pretty strong, and still unjustified words towards CC
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On December 17 2012 11:51 Eywa- wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2012 11:48 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: And somehow he knows Kush is town.... I'm sorry, a 5 year old could guess that one, if it's beyond your capacity, then I don't see why anyone would side with your vote.
I lol'd so hard.
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'sup kush
On December 17 2012 11:33 kushm4sta wrote: so this is ewyas first forum gameright? and knowing that you actually still think he's scum? I looked at filter and he looks pretty obvtown to me.
djo is scum...more tomorrow. hapa or thrawn one of those is prob scum. one of the more quiet lurker people, one of those is probably scum.. I'm thinking dhs maybe jx.
Since you're apparently up and about, can you elaborate on this? Perhaps a sneak preview.
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hapa do you have reads on anyone else? right now if I go process of elimination I end up with a list like eywa, dyh, zentor, kush for possible mafia
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I'll post something tomorrow afternoon at longer length.
Off the top of my head...
DYH's play has been very non-involved. He pops in, offers a consensus opinion, and pops out. I'm not sure if he's scum, but he's one to keep an eye out for.
I still think JieXian is mafia. Despite his defense, his voting antics are really really strange. He ends up voting you (Thrawn) at the end of the day and I have no idea where his scumread came from. He was very suspicious of Mr. Cheesecake, had his vote parked on him, then out of nowhere does this:
On December 17 2012 05:53 JieXian wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2012 05:45 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:On December 17 2012 05:42 JieXian wrote:shit it was about the acoltye = townie not a scumslip thing morbid is a bad idea I'm down for a mrcc lynch On December 17 2012 03:54 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:On December 17 2012 03:49 JieXian wrote:On December 17 2012 01:22 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:Hey guys, shenanigans here being sorted out. I'm down for a Thrawn lynch, he's a sheeping scummy dude right meow. Thrawn is an Opportunist + Show Spoiler +On December 15 2012 11:11 thrawn2112 wrote:ok ##Vote DjodrefShow nested quote +On December 15 2012 10:26 Djodref wrote: Other than that, I would like everybody to give a little hindsight of their game experience, especially newbies, if there are some.
what kind of information are you looking for? Sheep on Djodref vote, hardcore. No explanation, just does it. Also, the question he asks is self-explanatory. On December 15 2012 12:13 thrawn2112 wrote: I didn't th9nk hapa's case was super good but dp's reaction to it seems insane Slightly discredits Hapa's case, and takes the opportunity to acknowledge that DP looks scummy after an OMGUS vote (duh). He then unvotes to keep his options open. When Hapa makes his more fortified case, he suddenly believes it's some god-given scumhunting then votes for DP. Wait, What's this?On December 15 2012 12:17 thrawn2112 wrote: dp I don't think it's fair to accuse djo based on setup speculation meta because of 2 reasons
1. start of the game and everyone is lurking 2. this game doesn't have standard mechanics
Didn't Thrawn V OTE for Djo based on this exact thing? He was being obsessed with blue roles / witchhunter and Thrawn sheeped the vote, supposedly because of this. Now he thinks it's not fair to accuse him? On December 16 2012 10:17 thrawn2112 wrote: oh sniped on the random lurker vote lol, sounds fun
##unvote ##Vote: Mr Cheesecake
pie is better and all you mo-fos need to start posting
Sheeps onto lurker vote opportunity. Underlined = scummiest shit ever townies like cheesecake over pie. On December 16 2012 11:38 thrawn2112 wrote: ok here's what I probably mean about kush...
you mention his terrible ideas... yes the things he's said he'll do this game have been crazy, but that's his meta right? this game however, it seems like they are intentionally dumb. scum kush says crazier things than town kush.
he said he's not going to lynch me no matter what... is that a joke? an actual plan? the problem is I couldn't really tell.... it's so different from town oriented thinking I don't know what to make of it. the only reason I have to suspect that town kush could possibly have said that is because he's lynched me over and over for the same reasons and I keep flipping town. PROBABLY mean? What? How do you probably mean something...? Town mean things genuinely, scum try to emulate they are meaning something. The rest of this post is garbage--he comes to no read on Kush at all, just flip-flops between the possibility of town kush not wanting to lynch him and the alternative scum motivation. Above all, Thrawn doesn't seem to care who is lynched:On December 15 2012 11:52 thrawn2112 wrote: this conversation between the few of us is getting very tiresome
i'll lynch lurkers
LURKERS
i will happily lynch you Okay so he wants to lynch a lurker. By all means, a viable strategy considering the circumstance. But he also wants to lynch Djo, JX, DP... I'm confused. I don't see strong scum reads from him other than on JX due to obvious scumslips. He is sheeping a ton and doesn't seem too caring of who he wants to get lynched. Just look at this flip-floppiness between lurker lynching and lynching his top scumread.On December 16 2012 20:05 thrawn2112 wrote: I suggest all town people be around during the lynch if (when?) we decide to lynch a rando lurker Maybe we could lynch a lurker! That sounds like a good idea! On December 16 2012 20:41 thrawn2112 wrote: i still really really like it But I still really really like a JX lynch! On December 16 2012 20:42 thrawn2112 wrote: but who knows, perhaps some lurker will die instead But maybe we could lynch a lurker! I'm all for that! Why is Thrawn so indecisive?On December 16 2012 14:04 thrawn2112 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2012 01:06 JieXian wrote: I was out the whole day man relax. You guys didn't understand my post.
I found what Dp and hapa was saying to be weird BUT I changed my mind as I kept on reading the thread (notice how those 2 points were quite early on)
no this is a lie Show nested quote +On December 15 2012 14:47 JieXian wrote:Hi and sorry I'm late, I'm at +8GMT and I didn't wake up as early as DarthPunk At first I was really confused (scummy read) about hapa's mindless babbling about 13-3, which ISN'T RELEVANT to anything at all because you can't change anything except stir the discussion towards the wrong direction. but i think he's town because xLater I got a stronger read from DP from his ridiculous "pressuring" above all for a point that's completely moot. but now i think he's town because xDjo why did you vote for Mr Zentor But above all there's Mr Zentor's relative non-chalance to everything seems to trump everything else as doesn't seem to give a damn to anything as townies are well on their way to lynching one another ##Vote MrZentor the red parts are what I just now added to the 2nd post that would make the 1st post true. I bolded "but above all" because that implies you still hold your suspicions about hapa/dp. J scum-slipped hard, he lied about the scumslip, he's a lurker... and he's scum He states JX is scum. THEN WHY IS HE KEEPING HIS OPTIONS OPEN LIKE THIS? Town Thrawn would want to push this JX lynch into the ground, not be ready to jump off the wagon at the last minute to lynch a lurker. Thrawn's general posting in context of the thread seems very opportunistic. The way he jumps on JX's vote post of Mr.Z is just that, scum trying to find easy things to tackle people on. I have no clue, if town, why he's willing to lynch a lurker right now if he's set on JX being scum. ##Vote: Thrawn On December 17 2012 02:51 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:On December 17 2012 02:50 kushm4sta wrote: we really need a vote count... We only have 3 hours left... people should not be discussing anything but the lynch. Who are teh viable lynches at this point? Is anyone adverse to lynching a lurker? Yes we need a vote count. I want to lynch Thrawn but I don't think anyone is biting atm... Who'd you have in mind for lurkers? On December 17 2012 02:52 JieXian wrote:
read my filter please, I'm still waiting for his reply On December 17 2012 02:57 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: JX, that post wasn't even directed towards / had anything to do with you. So you posted your long wall of text case against thrawn for shits and giggles? I get it Jx, you're really paranoid. If I could lynch thrawn I would. But apparently everyone wants you dead, and I can see why. WHY ARENT YOU LYNCHING THRAWN NOW THEN? BECAUSE NOBODY ELSE WANTS TO BRO, WHAT U WANT FROM ME. If anyone else wants to vote thrawn, please do so. Ok join me #Vote thrawn2122Show nested quote +On December 17 2012 05:37 Hapahauli wrote:REPOST: Just scanned Morbidius's filter. I wouldn't mind lynching him. There was the pre-emptive defensiveness that MrZ brought up earlier, as well as this: On December 17 2012 04:29 Morbidius wrote: On December 17 2012 04:16 MrZentor wrote: Kush, I'd rather lynch scum than a lurker.
We should kill Morbidius. Hmm i made some light accusations against you and now you're full on calling me scum? That's quite the overeaction,which certainly doesn't help your case. I already had in mind the fact that you're either very noob town or noobish mafia. Either way a flip is worth more than you. ##unvote ##vote MrZentorJustifying lynching a "noob town." I don't think these things are 100% allignment indicative, but it's certainly scummy and the best chance we have for a red flip IMO. if MrZ was town he was playing noob enough for me to go nuts for him ... so he votes the candidate that one of his top scumreads is pushing? Errrrrrrrg.
JieXian justifies his vote with this...
On December 17 2012 06:13 JieXian wrote:I was challenging mr cc if he'd remove his vote as he seemed ready to vote for thrawn Show nested quote +On December 17 2012 05:45 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:On December 17 2012 05:42 JieXian wrote:shit it was about the acoltye = townie not a scumslip thing morbid is a bad idea I'm down for a mrcc lynch On December 17 2012 03:54 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:On December 17 2012 03:49 JieXian wrote:On December 17 2012 01:22 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:Hey guys, shenanigans here being sorted out. I'm down for a Thrawn lynch, he's a sheeping scummy dude right meow. Thrawn is an Opportunist + Show Spoiler +On December 15 2012 11:11 thrawn2112 wrote:ok ##Vote DjodrefShow nested quote +On December 15 2012 10:26 Djodref wrote: Other than that, I would like everybody to give a little hindsight of their game experience, especially newbies, if there are some.
what kind of information are you looking for? Sheep on Djodref vote, hardcore. No explanation, just does it. Also, the question he asks is self-explanatory. On December 15 2012 12:13 thrawn2112 wrote: I didn't th9nk hapa's case was super good but dp's reaction to it seems insane Slightly discredits Hapa's case, and takes the opportunity to acknowledge that DP looks scummy after an OMGUS vote (duh). He then unvotes to keep his options open. When Hapa makes his more fortified case, he suddenly believes it's some god-given scumhunting then votes for DP. Wait, What's this?On December 15 2012 12:17 thrawn2112 wrote: dp I don't think it's fair to accuse djo based on setup speculation meta because of 2 reasons
1. start of the game and everyone is lurking 2. this game doesn't have standard mechanics
Didn't Thrawn V OTE for Djo based on this exact thing? He was being obsessed with blue roles / witchhunter and Thrawn sheeped the vote, supposedly because of this. Now he thinks it's not fair to accuse him? On December 16 2012 10:17 thrawn2112 wrote: oh sniped on the random lurker vote lol, sounds fun
##unvote ##Vote: Mr Cheesecake
pie is better and all you mo-fos need to start posting
Sheeps onto lurker vote opportunity. Underlined = scummiest shit ever townies like cheesecake over pie. On December 16 2012 11:38 thrawn2112 wrote: ok here's what I probably mean about kush...
you mention his terrible ideas... yes the things he's said he'll do this game have been crazy, but that's his meta right? this game however, it seems like they are intentionally dumb. scum kush says crazier things than town kush.
he said he's not going to lynch me no matter what... is that a joke? an actual plan? the problem is I couldn't really tell.... it's so different from town oriented thinking I don't know what to make of it. the only reason I have to suspect that town kush could possibly have said that is because he's lynched me over and over for the same reasons and I keep flipping town. PROBABLY mean? What? How do you probably mean something...? Town mean things genuinely, scum try to emulate they are meaning something. The rest of this post is garbage--he comes to no read on Kush at all, just flip-flops between the possibility of town kush not wanting to lynch him and the alternative scum motivation. Above all, Thrawn doesn't seem to care who is lynched:On December 15 2012 11:52 thrawn2112 wrote: this conversation between the few of us is getting very tiresome
i'll lynch lurkers
LURKERS
i will happily lynch you Okay so he wants to lynch a lurker. By all means, a viable strategy considering the circumstance. But he also wants to lynch Djo, JX, DP... I'm confused. I don't see strong scum reads from him other than on JX due to obvious scumslips. He is sheeping a ton and doesn't seem too caring of who he wants to get lynched. Just look at this flip-floppiness between lurker lynching and lynching his top scumread.On December 16 2012 20:05 thrawn2112 wrote: I suggest all town people be around during the lynch if (when?) we decide to lynch a rando lurker Maybe we could lynch a lurker! That sounds like a good idea! On December 16 2012 20:41 thrawn2112 wrote: i still really really like it But I still really really like a JX lynch! On December 16 2012 20:42 thrawn2112 wrote: but who knows, perhaps some lurker will die instead But maybe we could lynch a lurker! I'm all for that! Why is Thrawn so indecisive?On December 16 2012 14:04 thrawn2112 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2012 01:06 JieXian wrote: I was out the whole day man relax. You guys didn't understand my post.
I found what Dp and hapa was saying to be weird BUT I changed my mind as I kept on reading the thread (notice how those 2 points were quite early on)
no this is a lie Show nested quote +On December 15 2012 14:47 JieXian wrote:Hi and sorry I'm late, I'm at +8GMT and I didn't wake up as early as DarthPunk At first I was really confused (scummy read) about hapa's mindless babbling about 13-3, which ISN'T RELEVANT to anything at all because you can't change anything except stir the discussion towards the wrong direction. but i think he's town because xLater I got a stronger read from DP from his ridiculous "pressuring" above all for a point that's completely moot. but now i think he's town because xDjo why did you vote for Mr Zentor But above all there's Mr Zentor's relative non-chalance to everything seems to trump everything else as doesn't seem to give a damn to anything as townies are well on their way to lynching one another ##Vote MrZentor the red parts are what I just now added to the 2nd post that would make the 1st post true. I bolded "but above all" because that implies you still hold your suspicions about hapa/dp. J scum-slipped hard, he lied about the scumslip, he's a lurker... and he's scum He states JX is scum. THEN WHY IS HE KEEPING HIS OPTIONS OPEN LIKE THIS? Town Thrawn would want to push this JX lynch into the ground, not be ready to jump off the wagon at the last minute to lynch a lurker. Thrawn's general posting in context of the thread seems very opportunistic. The way he jumps on JX's vote post of Mr.Z is just that, scum trying to find easy things to tackle people on. I have no clue, if town, why he's willing to lynch a lurker right now if he's set on JX being scum. ##Vote: Thrawn On December 17 2012 02:51 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:On December 17 2012 02:50 kushm4sta wrote: we really need a vote count... We only have 3 hours left... people should not be discussing anything but the lynch. Who are teh viable lynches at this point? Is anyone adverse to lynching a lurker? Yes we need a vote count. I want to lynch Thrawn but I don't think anyone is biting atm... Who'd you have in mind for lurkers? On December 17 2012 02:52 JieXian wrote:
read my filter please, I'm still waiting for his reply On December 17 2012 02:57 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: JX, that post wasn't even directed towards / had anything to do with you. So you posted your long wall of text case against thrawn for shits and giggles? I get it Jx, you're really paranoid. If I could lynch thrawn I would. But apparently everyone wants you dead, and I can see why. WHY ARENT YOU LYNCHING THRAWN NOW THEN? BECAUSE NOBODY ELSE WANTS TO BRO, WHAT U WANT FROM ME. If anyone else wants to vote thrawn, please do so. Show nested quote +On December 17 2012 05:54 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: Lol JX, what reason do you have to vote thrawn? Also, didn't you think I was scum? Why would you agree with me. and he's getting more and more contradictory as he posts
... but it's pretty unconvincing. He voted thrawn to "dare" Mr. Cheesecake to vote him? I'm not really buying it - it reads a lot like JieXian doesn't give a shit about who dies.
As for others, Mr. Zentor is quite the enigma to me, though I'm leaning town on him for his willingness to push the Morbidius lynch through. Even if it was wrong, he stepped up and prevented the no-lynch which is townie motivated.
Drazak hasn't done much, but I think he's town. A mix of gut-feeling, as well as his passiveness/cooperative-ness is actually one of his town traits. Careful with him - he's an easy guy to lynch regardless of alignment.
If for whatever reason Eywa doesn't flip mafia, kush is someone to look at pretty hard.
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Exhibit A: Ewya's alleged scumslip
I don't know why you guys are standing for a townie that is supposedly "helping the town by bringing lurkers to post through accusing them" when that reason is a blatant lie.
Exhibit B: In which Ewya says im town
On December 17 2012 11:46 Eywa- wrote: Any scum would have to be out of their mind to side with me right now given how hot of a target I am... I don't see how it can help them... Kush is a civilian (but of course, you can lynch him too given that civilians seem to want to lose around here).
This is just one of many examples of his use of the word citizen. Ewya says CITIZEN when he means town and TOWNIE when he means player.
Remember this is his first forum mafia game. The only experience he has had is IRL mafia.
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Exhibit C:
On December 17 2012 03:06 Eywa- wrote: It is not my first time playing mafia, it is my first time playing TL Mafia. Previous character profiles are a nuisance to the town, they generally bring people to quick and unfortunate assumptions, if someone plays a certain way 10 times and are a townie every time, why wouldn't they play the same way once they got mafia?
It's common sense... Previous knowledge can be used for serious meta-games, stay away from it.
Otherwise, it suffices to say that: I am not going to jump on someone else's band wagon just because it's a popular choice. I will remain with my vote on hapahauli. I don't believe him to be a town.
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