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On December 23 2012 06:21 JieXian wrote:Show nested quote +On December 23 2012 06:19 Hapahauli wrote:On December 23 2012 06:18 JieXian wrote:On December 23 2012 06:17 Hapahauli wrote:On December 23 2012 06:14 JieXian wrote:
hapa I'm not sure if you're mafia right now but think about it, DYH didn't give a flying fuck about getting lynched Yeah, that's called scum-motivation and not "I know I'm going to get bussed." Think about it - scum could have secured the MrZ lynch EASY. Why didn't they do it? You do notice you're questioning people for not doing it right now right? Not doing what now? You're questioning their very alleigance for bussing or not bussing and you're asking me about the benefits of bussing? Don't you do realise how hypocritical it is? The very benefit of bussing was to have some townie cred like what you're doing with them now
Where are you reading into that? I'm not questioning there's something to be gained from bussing. I'm questioning how bussing is even likely in this scenario, given that there was an easy mislynch available.
I can see one teammate bussing (perhaps Djo). Two is a bit of a stretch.
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Anyway, this bussing topic is pointless until we see the flip.
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On December 23 2012 06:29 JieXian wrote:Show nested quote +On December 23 2012 06:27 Djodref wrote:
Ok guys,
I think it is time for me to write a good bye post.
I wouldn't say that this game was enjoyable, so I have mixed feeling about getting mislynched right now.
I'm happy to get away from this game, because IRL is getting pretty busy with me being back to France, and also because there are too much insults and flaming around here. People are not being reasonable.
On the other hand,I've really put a lot of effort into this game, and I think that most of my cases were good, even if a few of them were certainly misguided. So I guess that I was establishing that I was town quite well. My last case againt JieXian is something I'm very proud of, and I really don't think Kush or Ghost cases are better than it, so I'm feeling very bad about getting lynched right now. Hopefully, you guys can realize that the scum players are really obvious this game, and I'm counting on you to get your lynches right.
I was happy that we had lynched DYH, and I was really hoping for the town atmosphere to get brighter, but it didn't happen. I have faith that you can win this game for me, so please do so ^^
Good luck and try to do something to improve the town atmosphere, because I really feel bad when I read this game...
Alas, flaming occured again, and too much time is spend on irrelevant points. your last case on my sucked enough for me to consider you being scum
Martyring = not a good way to play this situation out if you're town.
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Oh whoops quoted the wrong post. That was directed @ Djo.
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On December 23 2012 06:33 kushm4sta wrote:
the only hting that is giving me pause here is cheesecake looks really town. Like it's just a feel read but if he is scum he is inhabiting the mind of a town really well.
I mean even if you think Djo is scum... who's the scumbuddy? You think I'm town. CC seems REALLY town... the only person that makes sense is Eywa. Win-win.
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On December 23 2012 06:37 JieXian wrote:More proof that Djo's lying: Show nested quote +On December 23 2012 06:31 Djodref wrote:
lol, seriously kush, this is so obvious, I knew you were obxiousnus, but this is far too obvious that they are scum right now.
JieXian never addressed this case against him, and he perfectly shows that he was following a mafia agenda all game long. Show nested quote +On December 22 2012 02:23 JieXian wrote:On December 21 2012 03:41 Djodref wrote:On December 21 2012 03:21 JieXian wrote:
*snip*
Djo please tell me how the hell am I playing clean lol what nonsense are you talking about. Everyone agrees that I'm messy as hell. If you mean clean as in not accusing everybody like what you're doing, I don't need to because things appear clear to me.
*snip*
You are totally twisting what I've presented. I have made a post presenting the points I had against DYH, at your request. You didn't reply directly to this post (of course not, so why asking it at the first place ?) but you have made the a comment related to this post a few moments after.
On December 20 2012 03:00 Djodref wrote:@ JieXanHere is the summary of the points against DYH. I would like to remind you that the cases against Kush are far better  Especially mines ^^ Anyway... - unemotional and not involved in this game
- "clean" play, generally blending in
- generally lurking
- Disputable case on MrZ, which could be a way for him to avoid to contribute for real
@ EywaCould you do the same thing for CC ? It took me like 5 minutes  So there is no direct comment on this from your side. But here is what I get from another remark. On December 20 2012 03:05 JieXian wrote:On December 20 2012 03:03 Djodref wrote:On December 20 2012 02:55 JieXian wrote:
I call
SCUMPSLIP Blew, half of the players have been doing 'scumslips' at this point of the game... Even you did But, please, enlighten me ^^ lol wasn't for you you're bee nplaying super clean just like dyh This is an OMGUS, but on the behalf of DYH. I point out to you what makes DYH scum, you take your pick, and say without justification that I'm guilty of the same sin. no, honestly at that time I couldn't find anything standing out to pick you out as mafia for sure. Same with DYH. On December 21 2012 03:48 Djodref wrote:On December 21 2012 03:29 JieXian wrote:On December 20 2012 21:35 Djodref wrote:
Part IV --- Lynch Derailments
Morbidius LynchI think that JieXian was trying to provoke a no-lynch when he provoked MrCC into voting thrawn. Please note that JieXian has no fucking reason to vote thrawn at that point. What kind of town player would do that ? DYH LynchOne thing I like in JieXian's filter is this post, because he is basically claiming mafia here On December 20 2012 06:49 JieXian wrote:
#unvote
##Vote MrZentor
I had you as townish but I'm not sure of your alignment after all that crap but if djo hapa and mrcc have their votes on someone like that I can be sure it's town.
hapa it's 5.49 am here where do you think I was
Let's try to switch the DYH lynch on the guy I have as townish, and not the three other guys which I have as mafia. I'm going to develop on JieXian's attempt to derail DYH lynch in the following part. I just skimmed at this and you don't seem to understand my logic 1 zentor and dyh are null to me 2 scum want to lynch dyh 3 Didn't expect them to bussing 4 I vote for zentor lol At this point, here are your supposed premises, tell me if I'm wrong but you are supposed to believe that Hapa, CC and me are the scumteam. Is that right ? There is only 3 scum in this game so, here is what town JieXian would think. I have already the whole scumteam so 1. zentor and DYH are town, we are currently lynching a town player (green check on DYH) 2. And, the whole scumteam is behing this lynch, this is obviously a mislynch ! 3. Bussing who ? The 4th mafia member ? 4. I vote for another townie, to be sure to have a mislynch.... No, if you were town, you should vote for one of your scumreads I don't see how you seem to be blind to the fact given your points fully support my decision as townie. 1. zentor and DYH are town, we are currently lynching a town player (green check on DYH) maybe you know that they're town, I had null reads 2. And, the whole scumteam is behing this lynch, this is obviously a mislynch Very well, so I try to stop it by voting MrZ 3. Bussing who ? The 4th mafia member ? To me, they were lynching a townie especially given kush's check. You seem to know a little more than me 4. I vote for another townie, to be sure to have a mislynch.... No, if you were town, you should vote for one of your scumreads My scumread had 1 vote 10 minutes to lynch time >_> My best option was to try to stop mafia
Djo, explain this please.
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Btw Kush, what changed your mind?
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The 3rd theorem of the internet now mandates that Eywa's text is now 150% more persuasive.
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On December 23 2012 06:45 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:Show nested quote +On December 23 2012 06:44 JieXian wrote:On December 23 2012 06:41 kushm4sta wrote:
no idea who the scumbro is if it isn't eywa HAPA? Then we can lynch hapa / djo tomorrow and gg win?
That was a quick 180.
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On December 23 2012 06:49 JieXian wrote:
##unvote
##Vote Hapahauli
let's do this
So is there a reason you think I"m scum other than "why am I not dead?"
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Eh this isn't even worth my time. I'm out - see y'all after the flip.
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I'm finding this pretty hilarious actually.
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Welp. We'll see what the night brings.
I'll be posting my final thoughts sometime tomorrow morning or before the deadline (I'll be travelling tomorrow for a couple of hours, so I'm not sure if I'll be here around the deadline).
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I likely won't make it back before the deadline, so here's my hastily-written outlook on things right now:
1) Djo is probably scum.
If there are any players looking bad after last night's exchange, it's Djo. Now him voting Eywa isn't bad (since he had to in order to survive. However, the way he suddenly started pushing the idea that "oh there's no way that Eywa is going to flip town" near the lynch deadline is pretty bad. He's been convinced that three players were going to flip scum yesterday: Kush, JX, and finally Eywa.
His early-martyring and detachment also read as pretty scummy. Finally, the way he pushed Kush's case is seems scummy rather than rage-phone posting in retrospect.
2) Second Scum
By association, I don't think it's kush unless it was their plan just to throw shit at each other all game. Definitely possible, but I don't think it's likely. The most likely scum-team member seems to be Mr. CC. While his filter has quite a few pages, most of it is him screaming "Eywa is scum!" over and over again. Not that I haven't either, but there's remarkably little analysis in Mr.CC's filter, and unless he starts contributing in a big way tomorrow, I have no reason to change that opinion.
Mr.CC/Djo scumteam also would explain why I'm alive right now - I've been their buddies for most of the game.
I don't think JX is scum. Him setting himself up to look like an ass post-DYH flip makes it implausible. There's a huge difference between setting yourself up to look like a stupid townie by playing ignorant about the flip, and setting yourself to look like an asshole by being convinced that DYH isn't scum and doing everything to antagonize the other players on the wagon.
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Hmm. So people think I'm scum when
a) I'm the only person that has caught scum this game
b) I'm by far the most active player in this thread
c) The only reason this town is active is because of my posting on Day 1 and beyond.
Sounds reasonable.
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It seems pretty obvious that Mr.CC is scum at this point. He was setting up to lynch me all before Eywa's flip:
On December 23 2012 06:43 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
In all seriousness if Eywa is town, I'd say hapa is scum tho.
On December 23 2012 06:45 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:Show nested quote +On December 23 2012 06:44 JieXian wrote:On December 23 2012 06:41 kushm4sta wrote:
no idea who the scumbro is if it isn't eywa HAPA? Then we can lynch hapa / djo tomorrow and gg win?
On December 23 2012 06:52 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
If you flip town Eywa, I'll lynch Hapa tomorrow.
On December 23 2012 06:55 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:Show nested quote +On December 23 2012 06:55 Eywa- wrote:On December 23 2012 06:52 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
If you flip town Eywa, I'll lynch Hapa tomorrow. Doubtful, but you can talk the talk all you want. Notice, Cheesecake making 2 separate promises about who's getting lynched tomorrow if I'm town? Hey I'll lynch Djo or Hapa if you're town.
There's zero reason Mr.CC should have been playing the speculating game in this manner. He was 100% balls-out convinced that Eywa is scum. This stuff shouldn't even cross his mind, much less his end-of-the-day filter being littered with it.
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I won the witchcraft elections. I'm Jailkeeping Kush today for the following reasons:
A CC/Djo scumteam has four NK options
1) Kill ghost. Not a good idea, since that would confirm my green check on him.
2) Kill me. Not a good idea, since they're pushing me for a mislynch + it would confirm ghost as town.
3) Kill JieXian. Not a good idea, since JX is trying to lynch me.
4) Kill kush. Best idea, since kush believes Djo is scum.
If kush doesn't die, I either successfully roleblocked scum, or I blocked the NK of the scumteam. I'm convinced the latter is correct.
Alternatively I could gamble on a roleblock, but it's 50/50. I could DT check, but I have a high risk of getting roleblocked tonight by scum.
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On December 24 2012 06:59 Hapahauli wrote:
I won the witchcraft elections. I'm Jailkeeping Kush today for the following reasons:
A CC/Djo scumteam has four NK options
1) Kill ghost. Not a good idea, since that would confirm my green check on him.
2) Kill me. Not a good idea, since they're pushing me for a mislynch + it would confirm ghost as town.
3) Kill JieXian. Not a good idea, since JX is trying to lynch me.
4) Kill kush. Best idea, since kush believes Djo is scum.
If kush doesn't die, I either successfully roleblocked scum, or I blocked the NK of the scumteam. I'm convinced the latter is correct.
Alternatively I could gamble on a roleblock, but it's 50/50. I could DT check, but I have a high risk of getting roleblocked tonight by scum.
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Kush, can you please corroborate my story by confirming that you were roleblocked?
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