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Firstly, thrawn. What I find suspicious about him is that first, he only answers questions when pressured, this is an example of trying not to give information to town and because he has a bunch of one-liners in his filter. Also, shall we take a look at his vote? Oh, it's on WBG, why is it on WBG??? He says that WBG has rubbed him the scummiest out of all the responses, but I think his vote is justified, and thrawn's point is not. Because WBG says because his vote (at the time on thrawn) is because of LALiars, which is possibly true because we don't know thrawn's alignment and his intentions in doing that (although thrawn has explained why he claimed Miller, but in his explanation "It first was mostly a joke but it was also intended to jumpstart discussion", wait what? He's trying to shed a good light to his mostly bad action) Second, jaybrundage: On December 10 2012 10:32 jaybrundage wrote: You tried to brush off bears vote. And then when the whole thread is asking you to explain you dont give an answer. Ok heres my thought of process. IF you dont wanna get lynched today your gonna have to try harder then that. If your a town player then your gonna have to put some effort in your defense because as it is I could totally see my self lynching you. I dont wanna start an early easy bandwagon. But your making a pretty good case for your self why your scum. It has been said by clarity already but how I think it is, it's a attempt to avoid pressure, also the sentence after: Does he give a bloody explanation on why thrawn is making a good case why he's scum? nope (so where's the info we can discuss bro?). On December 10 2012 10:37 jaybrundage wrote: Dude... Its not whether we believe you. Your lying simple. Not a single persons believes your claim its about why are you lying. For no damn reason. And what purpose would town have to do that. It only makes sense from a mafia perspective Piggybacking other people's opinion and not giving one's own: Not giving information to the discussion. Also, lastly, I don't understand why he keeps pressuring thrawn for a response, is thrawn's response so pivotal to him? This along with clarity's case, I will vote jaybrundage. ##vote: jaybrundage So on my simple one post suspicions: On December 10 2012 12:47 wherebugsgo wrote: alrighty. I've concluded from the current events that there's an 80% preliminary chance that Palmar is scum. Therefore I'm voting him, at least until he comes back and proves me otherwise. ##unvote ##vote Palmar Why, everyone knows that chances suck balls in mafia correct? This is as same as lying to be frank (does he know more than we do? Does he know more shit so he can base his 80% chance that Palmar is scum? Is this just an attempt to get a good town player d34d through the lynch?) On December 10 2012 14:11 debears wrote: Clarity in particular I like this part That's not even the issue. How am I putting anyone in a compromising decision about whether or not to believe the claim when millers aren't even self aware? I don't understand what accusation you're trying to make, it makes no sense in the context of what the OP has to say about millers. Dude... Its not whether we believe you. Your lying simple. Not a single persons believes your claim its about why are you lying. For no damn reason. And what purpose would town have to do that. It only makes sense from a mafia perspective[/QUOTE] He says: 1) There's no town mindset in saying it 2) There's a lot of scum mindset Yet, he keeps warning thrawn he'll get lynch if he keeps it up. And the wishy-washiness despite having said the above [/QUOTE] "Hey he found it but I'll explain this thing he found!" Doesn't bother to read jaybrundage's filter, but simply describes what jay said in his post. Okay game time. Gonna drop my vote off in the voting thread | ||
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On December 10 2012 13:07 Adam4167 wrote: In fact, why are you not voting me dabears? You say you don't like me (I assume this means you think i'm scum?), you find my lack of vote strange and that my reactions feel forced. Why make a case like this if you aren't going to follow it with a vote? ##Vote: dabears This caught my eye in Adam's filter, someone says "Oh Adam might be scum" he went into insta defensive mode, then he didn't address the accusation but only followed up with a counter vote. Seems strange? | ||
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On December 11 2012 22:03 Vivax wrote: Hey Bluelightz, did you read? Adam got accused by dabears of not voting the guy he was questioning. Meanwhile, dabears didn't vote Adam while accusing him of this, thus making himself guilty of the same "mistake". Adam notices it, and 1. votes for him since it's what he wanted 2. Says it's suspicious that dabears himself didn't vote for Adam. Is voting necessary when one has suspicions on someone? No. It's up to them when they vote. | ||
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By many do you mean only you? Aaaand I don't see any "The case on Adam is bad" in clarity's filter..? | ||
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On December 11 2012 22:09 Vivax wrote: By saying that you're actually defending Adam against dabears first accusations. Dunno if you even realize that. I'm defending dabears first accusation. | ||
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Also, dabear if you could explain/join this talk it would be nice. | ||
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Woops. By that I mean he has more posts on thrawn then a simple point on someone | ||
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On December 12 2012 00:38 Vivax wrote: BLUELIGHTZZZZ, I need to know what you think of Palmar! He's townie, from the contributions he has produced and his activeness. | ||
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##Vote: Adam4167 Because of Palmar's case and my own reasons. I believe this is the most helpful vote I can put in before I sleep as I have school so can't be here @ the deadline. | ||
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On December 12 2012 01:42 marvellosity wrote: BL, do you still think jay is the scummiest? Losing confidence in his lynch, so I switched to Adam because it will probably be the lynch (barring any new cases while I sleep) and because of the reasons I have listed. | ||
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On December 11 2012 21:58 Bluelightz wrote: On Adam, This caught my eye in Adam's filter, someone says "Oh Adam might be scum" he went into insta defensive mode, then he didn't address the accusation but only followed up with a counter vote. Seems strange? | ||
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On December 12 2012 01:45 Clarity_nl wrote: Are you losing confidence in his lynch or are you losing confidence that he is scum? scumuuu and lynch because of his active defence of himself and the new cases. | ||
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On December 12 2012 01:50 Clarity_nl wrote: See, here's the problem with that explanation, that post is so vaguely worded it's hard to derive anything from it. You just threw our random suspicion.... "oh you guys this looks kinda weird, dunno!" You never said it looked scummy or townie or why. Please explain why you think he's scum other than the reasons Palmar gave. 1. Overreaction (or whatever you will call it) on thrawn's miller claim (Trying to make the most out of an easy way to lynch someone is scummy no?) 2. My above reason because to me it looks scummy because he's being very caution about himself. 3. On December 11 2012 22:58 Adam4167 wrote: + Show Spoiler + On December 11 2012 19:12 Palmar wrote: I don't understand what that "scumslip" is either. I think I explained in the video why I don't like Adam's first post: Basically, it's a legit question, but it's very easy to just click on someone's profile, go to posts and find recent games. Maybe Adam's just being lazy, but this post reeks of him trying to convey to the thread that he's going to be actively looking at people. Again, I'm working on the assumption Adam isn't dumb. It's pretty clear what thrawn is doing, and trying to wonder about it is dumb and pointless. Adam is lingering way too much on a silly stunt pulled by a random person, and asking all the wrong questions. Again, he's coming on with this idea that thrawn's actions require extensive analysis, it's very clear (to me at least) what thrawn is doing, and either it means he's scum and fucked up, or he's town and has a terrible plan-idea-thing. I concluded the latter to be the case, but adam seems really confused by something so elementary. Not putting shit in the voting thread is not scummy at all, and hardly worth talking about. I don't know why Adam keeps obsessing about irrelevant things this game. Also "I'll be watching him closely today." made me laugh. It's just how he's saying it that gets my lynchfinger all twitchy. --- In addition to this Adam calls debears out for not voting him, which is yet another thing I find fairly irrelevant, the action of voting adds or relieves no pressure at all in this game, it's the mind behind it that does. Everything Adam has done and said this game feels careful, calculated and often irrelevant and inconclusive. He should be the lynch for today. I've already defended mostly this same case from dabears, so I'm not going to go over it all again. How is playing carefully and calculated alignment indicative at all? You may have found my line of questioning irrelevant, but I didn't, hence why I did it. Vivax, can you expand on your thoughts on VE and Thrawn and why did you drop pursuit of them so suddenly? dodges a case by saying "this same case by debears" rather than responding to it (taking every opportunity to defend is in my opinion a townie thing because the townie actively seeks to prevent a mislynch, unlike here). | ||
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Point number one: "Because he will probably the lynch" your explanation "Oooh red font will make the reader totally understand that this point is scummy for no reason at all that I have explained :D" Point number two: "Something about sheeping" Uhh, the point I pointed out was indeed strange, and in my opinion, scummy. Does it take red font for someone to understand that a point is scummy? I gave this note out because one, I based my Adam vote on this and the existing cases, and two because this helps push my target (Adam). On December 12 2012 09:49 Clarity_nl wrote: Adam where's your crumb? ##Vote Adam4167 You are clearly sheeping too clarity. | ||
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On December 12 2012 20:39 Palmar wrote: Hey bluelightz, you down for killing bugs tomorrow? I'm fine if there's a consensus on bugs. | ||
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On December 12 2012 20:44 Palmar wrote: uh... I asked are YOU down for killing bugs. I don't care what the popular opinion is. Personally yes I am. His obsession with supposed chance on you seems to me like an easy reason to lynch someone. | ||
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On December 12 2012 22:23 marvellosity wrote: Hi BL. Is this really the main reason you'd be down for killing bugs? Also: + Show Spoiler + On December 12 2012 21:34 Djodref wrote: @ thrawn I didn't know what the fuck you were trying to do at first when you said "not explaining why I did this at all". At first, I was expecting you to simply admit that you wanted to spark discussing with this obvious fakeclaim but I didn't understand why you went into that "not explaining anything at all mode". I pressure voted you because I was still not so sure I had made the right choice at that time (i.e. town move or lying scum) and I wanted you to explain yourself for the following reasons:
Then, I thought about the comment you made in the Looney Game... This is the kinda post I was talking about off-timing with the thread. Honestly it's the only piece of dirt that makes WBG suspicious to me, besides his defense of Adam ofc. If there is a solid case on him I'll be sure to read up though. | ||
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Clarity has been pushing me by asking people for their opinion on his supposedly good case. Then, he only gives additional information when asked (Look at Bluelightz meta). Then events on the night correspond with the best chances for me getting lynched, debears the person that opposed my lynch the most is supposedly shot. Lastly, has he actually responded to my response? does he give a fuck about me than just "Oh he's scum, ignore everything. My case has to be right" | ||
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On December 13 2012 18:29 Hapahauli wrote: 1) Why would it be bad play for a vig to counterclaim here? Closed setup or not, I really doubt there's more than 1 in a 16 man setup. 2) It doesn't matter who the guy is - the top scumread of the thread got shot on N1. How is that not completely normal? Plus Clarity's a new guy - it's not like he knows who Bugs is. Hell even I've never played in a game with Bugs. As for the debears thing, I've given it some thought. The way I see it, there are two possibilities: a) scum only shot at debears. I find this unlikely, given the risk of leaving a hypothetically town marv+Palmar alive b) scum vigi'd debears and shot at marv. This is what I'm thinking happened. As for your chance B, who would be that scum vigi? | ||
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On December 13 2012 18:36 Tunkeg wrote: So WBG was a jk this game. So my entire scum or stupid analysis on him was wrong. He turened out to be just stupid. Also anyone doubting clarity's claim is stupid. There is no reason at all for a scum clarity to claim such a hit. He had alot of towncred allready, a missed hit like this would only put him back on the radar. Scum don't have a vig, as they would have taken out Palmar with it, doublestacking. Or perhaps some other vet they view as dangerous. With no vig they went for the best safe option, taking out someone who by pushing Adam early was looking very townie, and who wasn't likely to be protected. Everything you said could of happened by chance, not definite. | ||
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On December 13 2012 19:39 Clarity_nl wrote: One more thing about this post, actually: Do you believe I'm scum? Because if you think I'm scum this should not be what you think I'm thinking. Why would you ask that good sir? | ||
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On December 13 2012 19:35 Clarity_nl wrote: I only give additional info because I got asked? No one asked me to look into your meta. Also note how you've posted nothing of value since my case on you, so there's nothing to report other than you're still scum. Your response to my case was pitiful and not worth commenting on. Don't see your effort. | ||
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On December 13 2012 20:09 Clarity_nl wrote: Ehhh, fair point. I still wouldn't keep you both alive past N1, but yeah it's possible scum don't have a vigi or didn't use the shot yet. BL if you're here please answer my question. Where did the second shot come from if then? | ||
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On December 13 2012 20:13 Clarity_nl wrote: So why are you discrediting me as a player, rather than my case on you. Why does my "effort" matter to you. Why have you acted this way to me ever since I made my case on you, yet you think I'm town. Better yet, why don't you have a scumread on anyone? Because I haven't had the time? I think your town but how you push me is troubling. Discrediting your case is kinda a no-no since I responded and you haven't responded back. | ||
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I think Clarity is town. I don't give a fuck even though he thinks I'm scum, it's his responsibility when I get mislynched. Scum target later but right now I'm looking at Djordef | ||
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On December 13 2012 05:42 grush57 wrote: Why are you guys thinking that Bugs is scum. :'( He isn't. Djordef is scum. So is Vivax. But I would also like to think that Bluelightz is scum. But that doesn't make sense if Vivax is scum. So Djor + Vivax/BlueLightz + someone who isnt grush!!!!!!!!! GO GO VIGILANTES On December 14 2012 05:39 grush57 wrote: So much scummy play this game I'm not even considered a lynch. No one is paying attention to me :'(. :'( :'( Star...senses....faaaaaaaaadiiiiiiiiing NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO COME BACK BABY I <3 YOU WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH Wait? What is this? Logic? What? Proper intelligence? What? 100 IQ? WHAT ANYWAYS VE is playing super illogical, but he seems like an honest townie. I don't know about Tunkeg he could either be bad town or scum. Clarity is town. Djordef never mentioned scumbuddy Adam and DIRECTLY tried to counterlynch bandwagon. That play is so bad as scum that is the only thing saving him. I am up for lynching him. I'm also for lynching Bluelightz because his play is extremely bad/scummy. Plus the fact that out of all the vets, I find him by far the most scummy and mafia usually has atleast 1 vet. 1. "Bluelightz is scum because Vivax isn't." Is this a lie or is there some definitive proof? 2. Why is my play extremely bad/scummy? And I'm quite sure roles are RNG'ed... | ||
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On December 14 2012 23:46 Vivax wrote: I'd vote for both of them. The only difference is that BLs filter is small and looks bad, jay's filter is big and looks bad. Also, I thought you hate dangly things, so I'm not answering this question to do you* a favour, sweetheart. + Show Spoiler + *but especially myself In any case, I'd vote for BL over Z-Boson. Effectively, the post I wanted you to explain is useless if then. | ||
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Your clearly informative accusation / suggestion of my lynch is informative and will be responded to soon.. + Show Spoiler + nope | ||
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On December 14 2012 23:52 Vivax wrote: Jesus BL, why are you posting this much, it just doesn't look like you. Is it a problem? | ||
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On December 14 2012 23:54 Vivax wrote: No, on the contrary. Every hand is needed to tighten the rope properly. Then your previous post was uncalled for and is trash. | ||
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On December 15 2012 08:38 Vivax wrote: Regarding BL (once again): The post about Adam Palmar mentions to his defense wasn't "quite early" like Palmar said, most people already expressed their suspicion against him, and BL suspsected thrawn and debears at the same time in his first big post, so it doesn't make any fucking sense to suspect Adam and the other two at the same time, he would have had to assume that they were of different alignment, at least for debears and Adam. And the other post where I argue with BL about Adams defense isn't valid cause BL didn't even understand what I was getting to. I was speaking of debears arguments against Adam being: "He doesn't vote the guy he's suspecting" while debears was doing the same (marv noticed it too) and BL posted exactly the opposite of what I meant: So I said that he was actually defending Adam with that, since Adam was accused by debears of not voting.Meaning BL had no fucking clue of the points used against Adam, either cause he's lazy or cause he, like I believe, just bussed Adam to stay safe without bothering much about the appereance. 1. Umm who says I can't suspect Adam and thrawn at the same time... 2. By that quote I meant that debears didn't have to vote Adam, right AFTER his post, don't give a shit bout' Adam. | ||
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On December 15 2012 08:57 Clarity_nl wrote: BL, you're still around. How about you give us some of your reads? As I can recall zero of them and would have to look at your filter to even remember any of your stances. Nill scum reads today. Looking at Tunk right now... grush57 is really useless though but I guess we can save him till after today. You and Palmar I think are town. | ||
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On December 15 2012 09:01 Clarity_nl wrote: Well that's just great, I'm sure someone will present you with a participation award shortly. Frankly I don't care when I do participate. My challenge is just not getting mislynched while looking at scum. | ||
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On December 15 2012 09:07 Hapahauli wrote: Well in Rockband, you posted some cases and were trying to do something. This game... not so much. Not very spirited this game. | ||
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On December 15 2012 09:13 marvellosity wrote: you know you turn around those views by doing your best to scumhunt, right? Giving up making any effort isn't the way to go. I'm not exactly giving up but it's qutie discouraging. | ||
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On December 15 2012 13:32 grush57 wrote: So Bluelightz is definetly scum after reading thrawn's post. GAH I knew Tunkeg was town :'(. WHY PALMARWHY Because you did nothing to defend Tunkeg but rather voted him. | ||
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On December 16 2012 21:47 Djodref wrote: Cool story bro, Palmar was wrong about WBG and was wrong about me as well... WHY HELLO WE HAVE FOUND A LIE! (Considering we have no solid info like a DT check or shit) | ||
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1.Why haven't we lynched him yet? Why the fuck is this in the case? 2.He has absolutely no scumhunting? OBJECTION!!! I have scumhunted but not absolutely no scumhunting 3.No attention to the lynch Yeah I'll sacrifice school because of attending the deadline for mafia 4.Quotes Bullshit because you didn't explain fuck. | ||
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On December 17 2012 19:14 Djodref wrote: How come you always find the time to make some posts to defend yourself but never take the time to make a post with your reads and stuff ? Your behavior is anti-town, regardless of your alignment. Because defending is much more easier than finding scum. | ||
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From a quick skim, I can say that he post's a lot, but his post's are a lot of one-liners so a slight scum read on him. | ||
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On December 17 2012 21:17 Djodref wrote: I think that we can get Z-Bo and thrawn votes on this one. That means we have to get two more votes from others players. @ BL Would you vote Hapa today ? @ Vivax What do you think of my case against Hapa ? Would you like to lynch him today ? @ VE What about a bus ? I'd rather kill VE right now. | ||
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On December 17 2012 23:57 Djodref wrote: Ok, I'm fine with that. If you had to find a scum between grush and jay, who would it be ? Did you like my case against Hapa ? I can agree with your points on Hapa but his response is also good because it makes sense to me. grush because what he does is so... worthless :/ | ||
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On December 18 2012 20:35 Djodref wrote: Hello BL ! Would you like to lynch jay tomorrow ? Who do you think are the remaining scum players ? jay marv grush | ||
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oh yes I would like to lynch jay. | ||
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marv - My god why isn't he dead grush - overall uselessness | ||
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Hapa doesn't have a weird meta of dieing n1 as town | ||
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On December 19 2012 14:57 Djodref wrote: @ Bluelightz Could you make us a big post about how you feel during this game ? Anything that could show us that you are town, really.. I don't necessarily want scumhunting, I just want a post bigger than usual... How I feel? I feel kinda discouraged from as I said, people shutting down me from speaking anything like what thrawn did (not that it's a scummy thing he did that cuz I guess it's normal trying to shut scum from squirming in the thread assuming I am hypothetically scum). Also, considering the likely chance I will live in LYLO, I just don't wanna get lynched AGAIN. (Can't tell you how many times I've been lynched during LYLO/fucked up during it). If you guys consider me scum - fine, it's not my responsibility to shoulder the blame for my mislynch. | ||
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On December 19 2012 19:21 Djodref wrote: I think you have a good chance now to speak without being shut down. How are you feeling about this lynch ? Confident that we are going to hit scum ? Who would be the remaining scum if jay flips red and why ? Who would you have as scum if jay flips green ? I feel good because my feelings on jay's defense of VE was like "No, this isn't what a townie would do" and yes I am confident. On the remaining scum? I think it's between Marv, grush, or Hapa. | ||
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On December 20 2012 01:04 marvellosity wrote: What was it about jay's defence that you didn't think a townie would do? If I could say it's just his last minute REMEMBER THIS???? COME ON MASS SWITCH TO X or something like that... | ||
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On December 18 2012 10:00 jaybrundage wrote: BUMP FOR TRUTHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This post - It feels like a desperate attempt to switch the wagon on someone else, also, he seems very sure that VE is town (Why would a townie feel sure that this guy is town? There is no solid evidence - disregarding that jay is scum ofc) and, he doesn't explain why we shouldn't lynch VE because there is 2 scum on his wagon. | ||
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