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Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22295 Posts
December 13 2012 00:36 GMT
#1281
I know it's a lot, but you won't regret reading it!
If you wonder about weird letters, it's cause I accidentally TLPDized

+ Show Spoiler +
On December 11 2012 04:43 jaybrundage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2012 01:35 Clarity_nl wrote:
On December 11 2012 01:32 jaybrundage wrote:
On December 10 2012 23:52 Clarity_nl wrote:
Hey marv, you've explain why WE shouldn't vote a bunch of people (thrawn, jay, palmar) but do you have any reasons WE should vote a someone?

On December 10 2012 22:04 marvellosity wrote:
On jay, I'M OK on how he explained his 'slips'. My Only worry with jay is that he comes across as overly... compliant?:

"Glad someone is reading my posts. I felt like i wasnt get any feedback from them."
"I do appreciate you giving your reasoning behind your claim. It helps me understand you a bit."

I don't particularly think much of it atm, was just weird when I was reading them. I would say it was indicative of the fact he didn't WanT to ruffle feathers, but he'S not been afraid to put himself out there, so it isn't that.


His ReSpOnSe reminds me of my own scum Game. I showed no emotion that Game, I just tried to remain logical and not to ruffle anyone'S feathers, thinking that if I kept that up eventually people would Stay away from me because I answered every question and reasoned away any doubt.

@ Jay

I read some of the stuff in your linked games, and yes you lyched town D1 but I Never saw you say anything remotely close to "well I guess I should be more careful of early bandwagons". Not during any of the games and not in the pre-games or post-games either.

The thing is, you say you don't WanT to jump on an "easy bandwagon" this Game, but you do. All you don't do is you haven't voted for thrawn, but he'S the Only person you've put pressure on. So why mention it? It'S an easy Way out.

It seems like common Sense. If I get on easy bandwagons as town. Shouldn't i AvOiD em?

IM not you I don't find it necessary or needed to call people dumb or idiots like some players Here do. It is it that unexpected to show some respect to people : /


I call people dumb or idiots?

So other than Thrawn, WhO is an easy bandwagon to you so should be avoided, WhO stands out as scummy?

I didnt mean you specifically but some people in TL MaFia do. I Actually am starting to lean more neutral on Thrawn. In my early mind set I just couldnt see someone misclaiming as a joke, or Risk getting them selves lynched. IM a little worried about our lurkers.

And i would prefer to see more posts out of ZBoston. Specifically ZBoston What do you think about Claritys case on me and some people soft defending me.

Also MunkE has had like 3 posts since his /in and every single ONE of them is mostly about WBG statistic. Do WE Really have to nitpick over something like that. WBG was mostly trying to bait Palmar out. Lets hear your thoughts on some cases

On Vivax its odd. He seems Really interested in going after Thrawns claim and saying that Ve defended it as a joke. When its not a joke. Even when thrawn SaiD his self it was just a joke. That he stubbornly. Refused to explain to generate discussion. I think he is concentrating on thrawns little joke to much to the exclusion of everything else. I can see him being scum.

##Vote Vivax
(Because some people get SOOOOO antsy if you dont follow your argument with your vote.)



He'S made this post after VE voted for me, Z-Boson expressed his suspicion against me, and I just made the mistake to use the same argument as Clarity to Actually realize that thrawn was unlikely to be scum.
A good moment for scum to come in and try to get some momentum going, not to mention he doesn't care a little bit about questioning me or giving ONE good Motive as long as he can place his vote.

When I switch my vote to Tunkeg, he feels satisfied with pointing it out and leaving it at that.

+ Show Spoiler +

On December 11 2012 07:49 jaybrundage wrote:
Tunkeg your Here no ReasoN to lurk. Its Bad for town.

@Z-Boston Your case on Djodref is pretty good. He has a lack of scum hunting going back and forth with out any good reasons.

I would also like to see from our MunkE and adam hasnt been Here for a while.

Also I would like to see WBG and VE'S thoughts on Djodref and Z-Bostons case


What about his fucking vote on me? Did he show any interest in gaining some information by himself at this Point? Does he look like he'S interested in a particular person? Yeah, the case on Djodref is pretty good, still no need to pursue it, cause there'S Adam getting lynched, nontheless he'll find djodref scummy again once Adam is DeaD (/has been bussed).

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On December 12 2012 08:11 jaybrundage wrote:
Hm I think BL would of been a good lynch, IM leaning town on thrawn. Adam honeslty IM not sure on but I dont WanT a no lynch.

##Vote Adam



Well, I can hardly use the vote as Only argument against jay, other than that it'S a throwing around of stuff that'S again not Really useful.
BUT, BUT. Jay was the fourth last to vote for Adam. And guess What Adam did immediately after?

On December 12 2012 09:07 Adam4167 wrote:
##Vote jaybrundage


Adam voted for jay immediately before djodref, and a scum djodref would have to be dumb as hell to do the same as his scumbuddy immediately after, he'd rather go for the bus at that Point, so I'M saying DJODREF iS TOWN, FUCK YOU ALL...altough there might be WIFOM involved Here. I still feel pretty sure about it.

Anyway, back to jay: Why the fuck would Adam vote for jay when he has 0 votes on him?
Let'S get back to Adam'S post, Which I'M surprised nobody analyzed.
!!!!!!!
+ Show Spoiler +
On December 12 2012 09:07 Adam4167 wrote:
Alright, seeing as I am the leading vote getter today, Ill get some reads out for you guys so my death isn't a Complete waste.


Obvious town to me:
Palmar, Clarity, dabears, Marv, Thrawn and Vivax.


Jaybrundage
Jay is lurky when he plays scum, and right now he'S fitting the bill. In Arkham City I fell Into the Trap of thinking that he was too scummy to be scum, and largely ignored him for the entire Game until he obviously fakeclaimed and outed himself. This Game he looks mostly the same Here, Ultra lurky, and non-contributive. He'S jumped onto my wagon with the ReasoN of " Id rather lynch bluelightz, but I don't WanT a no lynch". Probably scum.


Bluelightz
Bluelightz is Another ONE that Ultra lurks when he is scum. He was literally afraid to post in Student MaFia after replacing in and just Sat around in the scum QT. His play in Aperture mafa as scum was similar to his play this Game, he throws out a couple of reads and then lurks until someone takes an interest in him. Probably scum.


WBG
He looks to be bending his reads to please palmar, Which is Never a good sign from someone as headstrong as WBG. Look at his attitude towards myself, early Game he has no problem with my gameplay, after declaring nobody in the thread looks suspicious and turning his attention towards the lurkers. Then, palmar posts his video and I become a suspect, he adds me to his list of scum targets, but with flimsy reasoning and 'meta' but would still rather PuSh other people. Probably scum.


Tunkeg
Tunkeg is an interesting ONE. His emo routine after being questioned is not What I would consider 'townie', but his list of reads is at least somewhat helpful and Actually looks somewhat similar to mine. I'd keep him aLive for now, but keep an eye on him, as he so happily points out, WE have no idea What to expect from his scum play. Mostly null, make him work to show his alignment.


VisceraEyes
VE has mostly lurked today and Really hasn't put much Into this Game. He'S capable of this as either town or scum. He seems pretty content to sheep most of Palmars reads this Game, something I wouldn't expect from him but I do like his case on jaybrundage. Mostly null, some SMall contributions.


Djodref
Djodref'S biggest scum tell from Mario MaFia was that he did absolutely no scum hunting and Sat around setup speculating even at LYLO. He'S pushed some cases this Game, Which I consider points in his favour, but he'S also back flipped his read on me as soon as Palmar mentioned both of us in his video. He'S spent a majority of day 1 defending himself from Bad cases, and I think he'S capable of being a good contributing townie, leaning town on Djodref.




Anyone else that I haven't got to either wasn't memorable or isn't putting in enough EffOrt.


##Vote Jaybrundage



The First thing WE Notice about Adams post is that he townreads players most of us probably consider(ed) to be town anyway. This was his last attempt to save his asS, and also a good attempt to discredit them if he gets killed.
I read most of them as town with exception of marv, WhO I have a null read on.
The First of his three scum players have 3 things in common: They lurk a lot, and they are very probably scum.
Since by the time I'M writing this I saw that BUGS has been shot by Clarity, whom I gladly call a raging dumbass for not listening to me, WE can exclude him from the ones Really being scum.

Anyway, I'M leaving some more of Adams analysis to other guys, I just wanna say that I believe his scum players to Really be scum players, maybe ONE of those he didn't mention (Z-Boson and Munk-E) too.

On December 12 2012 18:22 jaybrundage wrote:
Glad WE got an enagaged player to replace in for Munk-E. I'M still leaning scum on Djodref. But ill have to reread Vivax havent giving up much thought recently.

I also can see bugs being scum. Also makes Sense if the Game is balanced. That scum would get ONE Vet.

Its to Bad Bugs is to distracted to give this Game his all tho, well maybe not so Bad for town :3



So, after saying he finds Djodref scummy, still voting for Adam, just to speak about the oh so scummy Djodref and later posting Another Bad case against him cause Djodref tried to save Adam last minute.
Well, Clarity and I did that, too, indirectly, WE just didn't vote for Adam.

And while the horde posts against bugs, he catches the occasion to express his approval of bugs' scumminess.
Not to mention that he refused to Answer my initially friendly questions regarding bugs.

Which I asked CAUSE:

BUGS WAS THE First TO DEFEND JAY AGAINST THE EARLY BANDWAGON AGAINST HIM.

How the fuck would you believe someone WhO defends you so early to be scum when you know you're town?
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
December 13 2012 00:36 GMT
#1282
On December 13 2012 09:34 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2012 09:33 wherebugsgo wrote:
On December 13 2012 09:33 debears wrote:
On December 13 2012 09:31 wherebugsgo wrote:
On December 13 2012 09:28 Palmar wrote:
On December 13 2012 09:06 thrawn2112 wrote:
ok palmer, was that wbg stuff for real?


he's scum, lynch him


Palmar 2 good

how did you know I was scum Palmar? I'm curious, cause no one has ever caught me like that before.


Your play and personailty this game is vastly different this game


really? how so? I'm really curious to know this, so I can improve my scum play for the future.


Stop trolling me.


I'm not trolling you. I actually want to know how you caught me.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22295 Posts
December 13 2012 00:38 GMT
#1283
Ah fuck, I'm starting to get embarassed, where are my testosterone shots.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22295 Posts
December 13 2012 00:39 GMT
#1284
Nevermind that huge wall of text, I just thought page 65 was looking a little empty.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22295 Posts
December 13 2012 00:41 GMT
#1285
But actually, I can see a scum Bugs fit in there too.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
December 13 2012 00:43 GMT
#1286
On December 13 2012 09:39 Vivax wrote:
Nevermind that huge wall of text, I just thought page 65 was looking a little empty.


I promise to read it if you capitalise it properly
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
December 13 2012 00:47 GMT
#1287
On December 13 2012 09:36 wherebugsgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2012 09:34 Palmar wrote:
On December 13 2012 09:33 wherebugsgo wrote:
On December 13 2012 09:33 debears wrote:
On December 13 2012 09:31 wherebugsgo wrote:
On December 13 2012 09:28 Palmar wrote:
On December 13 2012 09:06 thrawn2112 wrote:
ok palmer, was that wbg stuff for real?


he's scum, lynch him


Palmar 2 good

how did you know I was scum Palmar? I'm curious, cause no one has ever caught me like that before.


Your play and personailty this game is vastly different this game


really? how so? I'm really curious to know this, so I can improve my scum play for the future.


Stop trolling me.


I'm not trolling you. I actually want to know how you caught me.


already told you why I think you're scum.

1. you made some comment that made me think you had determined marv's alignment earlier than I'd expect you to
2. you did not consider or run with my wagon on adam, even when you claimed he was your #2 read.
3. your voting me didn't seem to have any direction with it, normally when people confront someone like that they look like they have a plan.
Computer says mafia
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
December 13 2012 00:47 GMT
#1288
Well, looks like town is getting fed.

Double kill on scum could lead to the quadra kill
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
December 13 2012 00:47 GMT
#1289
This doesn't prove you're scum, just means there's a good reason you need to die.
Computer says mafia
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
December 13 2012 00:48 GMT
#1290
On December 13 2012 09:38 Vivax wrote:
Ah fuck, I'm starting to get embarassed, where are my testosterone shots.


it's ok, some day you will understand how to really catch scum.
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
December 13 2012 00:49 GMT
#1291
Bugs with the wifom. ...oh joy
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22295 Posts
December 13 2012 01:00 GMT
#1292
I'll rather remind myself to swear less in future posts, it's even getting boring for myself. Sorry for that, I think it's addictive to post so many insults on TL and get away with it :> .
Anyway, Bugs' initial play looked so damn townie to me I didn't even bother reading on. You looked pretty pro-town there, I'll give you a props for that.
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
December 13 2012 01:01 GMT
#1293
And that's the problem
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18262 Posts
December 13 2012 01:03 GMT
#1294

Day 2
[image loading]


Although the sudden, unexplainable death of Adam4167 was strange, a search through his locker left no doubt that he was an Agent. "Well, a victory is a victory" cheered ghost_403 as he ran to the airship's cocktail lounge. And so a merry night of celebration started. Well, for most people that is...

The Agents were not at all happy at losing their collegue and while the passengers were getting drunk, they sat at a table in the corner plotting their revenge. "There must be foul play involved, Adam was in the prime of his life", they muttered. "Yes, wherebugsgo was the architect of this disaster, we must take him out". Soon a plan was formed and when everybody woke up the next morning, they were greeted by the gruesome sight of wherebugsgo's blue blood sprayed all over the hallways. While running panicked and hungover through the hallways, everybody swore they could hear eary chanting of "bugs is scum" echoing through the airship. A panicked Greymist finally found wherebugsgo's mutilated body hanging from a chain in the torpedo room.

Unnoticed by everybody, debears also went missing that night.

wherebugsgo, the Town Jailkeeper was bludgeoned to death with a propellor drive.
+ Show Spoiler [role pm] +

Prison was tough. Tough for the inmates, tough for the wardens, tough for you as the psychologist. It was your job to listen to everyone’s problems; from how the food was terrible to how someone’s cellmate threatened to kill them every day. You’d finally managed to get out of there and decided to take a vacation. Unfortunately, there’s no getting away from psychology on this voyage. Your mind isn’t your only tool though; you’ve seen how the wardens control and protect the prisoners from each other and you figure you can do the same thing.


You are a Jailkeeper. As a reminder, you may not claim or refer to any of the flavor in this PM. Claiming your role name (Jailkeeper) and powers is fine.



debears, the Vanilla Townie got too drunk and fell off the side of the airship.
+ Show Spoiler [rolepm] +

It wasn't supposed to be like this. You were hoping for a vacation away from your normal life. No pressure or work to do, just relaxing as you flew through the clouds. If you'd known this journey was going to be dangerous, you'd have brought something special to help. Oh well. Better luck next time. Assuming you survive, that is.


You are a Vanilla Townie. As a reminder, you may not claim or refer to any of the flavor in this PM. Claiming your role name (Vanilla Townie) and powers is fine.




Flavour is exactly that, flavour.

It is now day 2. The day will last for 48 hours until 01:00 GMT (+00:00). Please remember to vote in the voting thread. From now until forever, please send any night actions to all hosts: HiroPro, ghost_403 and Acrofales.

Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
December 13 2012 01:04 GMT
#1295
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
December 13 2012 01:04 GMT
#1296
fuck.

I got roleblocked so I'm guessing bugs jailed me.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 13 2012 01:05 GMT
#1297
oh. well shit
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
December 13 2012 01:06 GMT
#1298
Well. I was gonna post an awesome congrata video for town. But, seems that has changed. Gg gl town
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
December 13 2012 01:07 GMT
#1299
Guys I'm gonna whine at myself so hard in post game. Fuck me.

Can we just kill BL now, please?
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
ghost_403
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1825 Posts
December 13 2012 01:12 GMT
#1300
They say great science is built on the shoulders of giants. Not here. At Aperture, we do all our science from scratch, no hand holding. Step aside, REAL SCIENCE coming through.
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