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thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
December 12 2012 05:06 GMT
#989
I agree jay

I'm also concerned about wbg, hapa, and maybe, maybe vivax, i'm the least sure about him. however other people seem to have enough interest in wbg to get that discussion going, and hapa is new so i'm going to focus on djo for the time being
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
December 12 2012 05:09 GMT
#990
bl is still worrisome because of his post count but his vote for adam doesn't look like a buss. it looks like he was sheeping palmar pretty hard.
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
December 12 2012 05:55 GMT
#997
On December 12 2012 14:39 Djodref wrote:
EBWOP: I was serious regarding a grush lynch. This guy is just a liability.


I actually have a read on him now, and it's town. What do you think about his actual filter, not his meta? I'm surprised that you would be talking about a grush policy lynch after a successful D1 lynch. A policy lynch is the last thing I have on my mind going into D2 after flipping a scum on D1.

btw, I've concluded that grush is probably a smart troll. He's either smart for being right about adam or he's smart for doing the thing that makes me think he's town.
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
December 12 2012 06:26 GMT
#1006
On December 12 2012 15:21 Djodref wrote:
Regarding grush, I'm null on him because he doesn't explain his though process at all. And he is a liability, regardless of his alignment.


If he's town he's not a liability based on what happened today.
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
December 12 2012 06:43 GMT
#1010
I agree with a lot of the stuff said about a potential buss from vivax. But as far as bus candidates go I like munk-e or wbg's chances better.
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
December 12 2012 06:52 GMT
#1011
So your point is that if a town vivax encountered a case against him in adam's filter, he should have come up with a scum read on adam? I disagree that is always true or anywhere close to always true. He defended adam... that doesnt make him scum either because I defended adam, and there were lots of other people pushing for other lynches. I don't think the scum response to your buddy getting lynched is to hard defend them, it's to push an alternate lynch.
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
December 12 2012 07:02 GMT
#1013
eh, my memories of people hard defending each other D1 are usually of scum hard defending a townie. I think that scum hard defending scum wouldn't be too likely
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
December 12 2012 08:16 GMT
#1024
On December 10 2012 09:53 Djodref wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2012 09:43 thrawn2112 wrote:
On December 10 2012 09:37 Djodref wrote:
@thrawn

Did you seriously not read that millers are not self aware ?


I dont see what the point of this question is, if I'm town then I obviously can't give a real answer.


Not true, if it was a probe post and you did it as town, then you can give a real answer like
"I totally read that miller are not self-aware, but I wanted to use this fakeclaim as a probe to see how people would react to it"
My problem is that I'm faced with the following choice right now
  • I have to assume that you did the thing above
  • I have to lynch you because you are a lying scum

So, I'll go with the first choice for the moment and ask you how you were expecting people to react to this fakeclaim. All in all, what was your motivation for this post ?


I don't like this post. Djo says that he has two options....

1) that thrawn used the fakeclaim as a probe to see how people reacted to it

2) thrawn is lying scum

What I have issue with is he says he's going to go for the first option, but gives no reason for doing so. Then he asks thrawn why thrawn fakeclaimed. I don't see any purpose in djodref asking thrawn that question if djodref is assuming thrawn is town. He even gave thrawn the answer thrawn would need to assuage djo's doubts. He did the same type of thing with with boson later on in the thread.

My point is that djo dances around the possibility thrawn is scum but assumes he's town and is strangely interested in why he "fakeclaimed." Adam did almost the exact same thing... he questioned thrawn about his motives (adam trying to appear useful) but wasn't interested in the "is thrawn town or scum" aspect of the issue. Djo then pressure voted thrawn even though he though thrawn was town... this looks like fake scumhunting.
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
December 12 2012 08:19 GMT
#1025
Hapa: I don't understand why I am "duh town" status... people have been calling me town ever since my incident at the start (which I can understand) but they've continued to do so without talking about anything else I've been doing... can you elaborate on your read?
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
December 12 2012 08:25 GMT
#1028
I'm not convinced. He made some wishy washy commitments to the adam lynch that he didn't follow through on and I disagree with your read on how attention whoring or suicidal djo was being. He was mostly being ignored with all of his attempts to get a different lynch going. In looney he bussed his scumbud the entire game and argued against the main lynches because he was being ignored and was able to get away with it.
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
December 12 2012 08:27 GMT
#1029
"really misguided gambit"

hapa so much nicer than everyone else lol
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
December 12 2012 08:40 GMT
#1038
On December 12 2012 17:38 Hapahauli wrote:
So what exactly is wrong with my meta read? I skimmed some of your games, and came to a conclusion based on them. I'm really unsure what your "angle of attack" is here.


It's that your opinion on tunkeg seems too well informed considering that you just replaced in
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
December 12 2012 08:45 GMT
#1042
hapa do you have any comments on this?
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
December 12 2012 08:51 GMT
#1045
On December 12 2012 17:45 Hapahauli wrote:
But thrawn and/or Tunkeg - some feedback on my read-dump would be appreciated.


I pretty much agree exactly with your town list except for one or two others I might ass to it. I disagree with the scum read on bl. You say his play looks like a buss.. I think it looks like he was sheeping palmar.

On December 11 2012 21:27 Bluelightz wrote:
Palmar, when in the video did you comment on adam (the time pls). I only skimmed through it at school.


He mentions palmer again when he votes. I also think the timing of his vote looks too early to be a buss. At the time he did it I was still pretty uncertain about who was actually going to be lynched and that's not a good time to buss if you don't need to.
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
December 12 2012 09:01 GMT
#1049
On December 12 2012 17:51 Hapahauli wrote:
Also he pretty clearly doesn't assume your town, since he pressure-votes you later down the line.


No, he thought I was town the whole time. His first read on me was:

"My first reaction to thrawn post was "yeah, obvious scum" then I thought that he might not have been serious at all. A one liner for a miller claim doesn't look real, regardless of his alignment. The way he answered "nvm, then" shows that he is carefree about it."

The other issue is him asking why I did it and pressure voting me to find out. He later says the town motivation he thought I had was that that I was hoping to attract pressure from scum. This was based on a post I made from looney. So if he thinks I'm trying to attract scum attention, why would he vote pressure me so that I'll announce it to the thread?
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
December 12 2012 09:04 GMT
#1053
On December 12 2012 17:52 Hapahauli wrote:
Well sheeping Palmar is at the very least non-alignment indicative.


Scum bl would be sheeping a vote for his scumbuddy?

I missed the implication behind "at the very least non-alignment indicative." What is the other end of the spectrum?
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
December 12 2012 09:07 GMT
#1054
hapa remember that time I sent you 50 pms? I have a feeling that this game might seem a little bit like that
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
December 12 2012 09:23 GMT
#1062
On December 12 2012 18:18 wherebugsgo wrote:
The fact that I ultimately chose not to vote him is actually not scummy, because trust me, I'm pretty fucking lazy as scum.

I'm notoriously "hard to read" because my play doesn't boil down to "lazy as scum and active as town" unlike the vast majority of other players.


so you are lazy as town or is one of those statements wrong?
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
December 12 2012 09:30 GMT
#1069
where have the bugs gone?
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
December 12 2012 18:39 GMT
#1144
On December 12 2012 21:34 Djodref wrote:
[*]If town, you would have better off stopping this ASAP imo, because people would have voted you for lying and being anti-town for not explaining yourself. Also, if you were baiting mafia, it was going to be far to obvious, so it didn't matter so much for you to "come clean".
[*]If scum, it would have been better to force you into posting more shit
[/list]

So either alignment, it was dumb and not really worth talking about. It's either stupid because I'm mafia and it would attract too much attention or it's stupid because I'm town and the mafia will automatically be paranoid of stuff like that. So I don't see why you spent so much attention on it. You even said you were thinking about this quote from the looney game:

On October 20 2012 09:13 thrawn2112 wrote:
Cuz I'm not scum u silly. Don't worry I love being mislynched. It's the part of the game where in the past ive figured out who is scum.


So if you thought that was the town motivation I don't see why you'd mention it to the thread
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
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