I have no problem with a VE lynch as well at first glance. I need to put better thought in it though...
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I have no problem with a VE lynch as well at first glance. I need to put better thought in it though... | ||
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I think this game is hard because there is a general lack of involvement of the players. I must admit that I'm not helping with my play so far but you should notice that I'm at least a little more concerned about this game than some other players. I thought debears was exaggerating yesterday about Adam at first. I had only played with town Adam (and not an exceptional one in Chrono Trigger Mafia) so far but I had already been fooled by scum debears. It was easier for me to interact with debears than to interact with Adam. | ||
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On December 14 2012 06:24 Hapahauli wrote: @ Tunkeg Why do you find people going after Clarity a scumtell? It's certainly proves stupidity, but not scumminess. This post is not addressed to me but I think I have a good point to make here. It's not a scumtell if they don't use this stupidity to prevent us from reading them by avoiding contributing in another way than a stupid tunneling. For example, in Mario Mini, I've been tunneling BH for a very long time against simple logic (and speculating a lot) to avoid contributing anything else. I have no problem with jay and VE going after Clarity of they really believe if they are mafia but I want them to show interest in the other lynch candidates and open themselves to discussion. In the case of VE, it is clear for me that is fixation on Clarity is not natural. First of all, he has failed to provide an extensive case agaonst Clarity to convince us that Clarity is scum. He is just speculating that Clarity has to be the ScumVig, that's what is allowing him to not partocipate in any other discussion. There is mafia motivation for retarded tunnels. Now the question is to know if VE is being dumb on purpose or not. Given his approach of the subject (speculating side), he is doing it on purpose for me right now. That's why he is mafia in my eyes. @ VE If by any chance you are town, you have to keep it simple. The simplest explanation is that Clarity is a town Vig. You should get off your horses and try to find real mafia. | ||
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On December 14 2012 02:27 Z-BosoN wrote: @Djodref You bring an interesting point regarding Tunkeg's "shying away" from Palmar. It's additional fluff for him not to actually scumhunt. I don't understand this passage, though, where you are calling it a scumslip: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=384953¤tpage=69#1361 Can you elaborate? @ Z-Boson On December 13 2012 00:36 Tunkeg wrote: Well, there are some seriously dumb people playing this game. If they happened to roll jk they need to be told what to do. For me, this totally could be a scumslip. Who he is talking about ? How does he know who is actually dumb (potential jks) and who is just playing dumb on purpose (potential mafia players) ? It could be easily explained if he had extra info on players alignment, if he is mafia for example. Honestly, I wouldn't have worried so much about this post if Tunkeg hadn't totally shied away from Palmar when he started to ask questions about it. I could totally see a town player post like this but his reaction feels forced. On December 13 2012 00:45 Tunkeg wrote: Nah, its the same people I have called dumb earlier. Maybe they haven't noticed or forgot. Don't want to insult them more, they might just not do as told to spite me. Like, seriously, what the fuck is that kind of line of thinking ? Why the JK would like to listen to Tunkeg at the first place ? Why would he be emotional ? And now I'm going to speculate a little. Let's assume that Palmar is town (likely) and that the mafia was planning to mislynch WBG today (also likely imo), they totally needed Palmar alive. But how would you explain that town Palmar is still alive ? He had to be jailed. At least, that's why I don't see any contradiction with a scum Tunkeg and him asking the JK to jail Palmar. | ||
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On December 14 2012 09:48 thrawn2112 wrote: eh, i might go for tunkeg as well I'm gonna do a re-read through of d1 then post thoughts on boson/djo/tunk unless I find something that convinces me not to. I don't have interest in any of the lynches outside of those people. @ thrawn Like, not even BL ? This guy doesn't even have a scumread at the moment... | ||
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On December 14 2012 10:49 jaybrundage wrote: Yea thx for telling me what im doing. I think its hilarious when people do that. Regarding me not mentioning adam before i voted him. NO FUCKING KIDDING. I voted him because I didn't want a no lynch to occur. I didn't pull a bullshit case out my ass, because I didn't have one. I didn't know what his alignment was and I stated as much. ROFL if this is your case on me its shit. @ Jay Why can you even admit that it makes you look bad ? How can we tell the difference between a bus and this ? You cannot blame Vivax for voicing suspicions towards you for this point. I know has tried to derailed Adam's lynch and I know it makes me look bad. I don't find your reaction very much town. For example, your case against me was valid and I've tried to address it to show you that my actions were town motivated (because I'm town ![]() I don't tink Vivax brought up shit with this point and I find you over reacting. But I still think VE, BL and Tunkeg all look worse than you at the moment ![]() Why | ||
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On December 14 2012 09:53 Djodref wrote: @ Z-Boson For me, this totally could be a scumslip. Who he is talking about ? How does he know who is actually dumb (potential jks) and who is just playing dumb on purpose (potential mafia players) ? It could be easily explained if he had extra info on players alignment, if he is mafia for example. Honestly, I wouldn't have worried so much about this post if Tunkeg hadn't totally shied away from Palmar when he started to ask questions about it. I could totally see a town player post like this but his reaction feels forced. Like, seriously, what the fuck is that kind of line of thinking ? Why the JK would like to listen to Tunkeg at the first place ? Why would he be emotional ? And now I'm going to speculate a little. Let's assume that Palmar is town (likely) and that the mafia was planning to mislynch WBG today (also likely imo), they totally needed Palmar alive. But how would you explain that town Palmar is still alive ? He had to be jailed. At least, that's why I don't see any contradiction with a scum Tunkeg and him asking the JK to jail Palmar. @ Tunkeg I really would like you to tell me who are the "seriously dumb people" in this game. Could you precise if they are dumb town or dumb scum ? | ||
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On December 14 2012 11:04 jaybrundage wrote: Ironic then how Tunkeg said how the very same response made me look more townie and he changed his view of me from scummy to neutral. Opinions, Opinions are different you are. I dont think i over reacted at all I think people over react to caps lock. Simply put he doesn't have a case against me. Okay I guess. I didn't remember that Vivax had his vote on you... By the way, you don't have a case against Clarity neither. | ||
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Vivax argument is not bad. Saying his opinion dffers from Tu.keg is not a good argument to address it properly. Anyway, thats not important now. Your vote is what is important ! Where is your case against Clarity ? | ||
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Can you make me a list with your main points against me ? @ thrawn Could you do the same ? What would be your tentative scteam ? | ||
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But I still thi.k that my previous point for a town munke is valid. Hapa, I appreciaye your read on me but I would like you to find scum. Honestly I think that BL ahas the least cjances to flip scum among Bl Tu.keg and Ve. Would you like to lynch VE today ? | ||
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On December 14 2012 11:39 jaybrundage wrote: I already have. I'll look thru your new posts later and see if they still support you being scum. When you are done, I would really appreciate a list witb your main pints against me. You are puahing for a mislynch now so you netter come with good reasons. | ||
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On December 14 2012 12:00 Hapahauli wrote: I"ve made my reads really really clear. VE's giving me more of a dumb town vibe than malicious scum. I want to lynch Bluelightz, but Tunkeg is rapidly climbing my list and is a clear #2. VE going after Clarity reminds me of me going after BH in Mario. Plus his case boils down to few posts only and speculation. On top of that, I don't think that VE could be that misguided. | ||
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I have only played with him replacing as scum. He was making sense in our scumQT in the Looney game. He also said that people were going to expect him to deliver. But my main point against him is that he is acting in a very similar way to what I did in the Mario game. | ||
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I like your case but I still feel better about a Tunkeg lynch because Z-Bo has at least shown some effort in scumhunting. Also I don't see it as necessarily scummy that he thought that debears was exaggerating. Do you think that Tunkeg and Z-Bo could be in a scumteam together ? How do you feel about a Tunkeg lynch ? I'm waiting for Z-Bo defense with great interest ! | ||
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On December 14 2012 14:35 thrawn2112 wrote: CPU = can ok thanks, could you waut for me to access a computer ? I don't want to review all this from my phone. | ||
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