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VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
December 12 2012 01:44 GMT
#929
Yaaaaay!

LEAD ME WARLEADER!!
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VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
December 12 2012 01:45 GMT
#932
On December 12 2012 10:44 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2012 10:43 Palmar wrote:
bitch please


i request that you video yourself saying that for my pleasure


Seconded!
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
December 12 2012 02:12 GMT
#948
I looked into him and nothing changed Bugs - I still preferred to lynch jay and Adam was still on the block. The lack of mentioning Adam you're seeing is an intentional thing sir, I was trying to get JAY lynched. Unfortunately, circumstances being as they were I was unable to make a post on the matter as I did with Tunkeg, but I DID look into him.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
December 12 2012 16:32 GMT
#1125
Palmar and marv, you're both stupid. X(
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
December 12 2012 16:48 GMT
#1126
Like, what if Bugs is town and scum were going to shoot Bugs overnight, but in comes the cowboy!! That's a big hypothetical obviously, at this point I agree that Bugs is probably scum. But you see what I'm saying.

Also, you two being all buddy buddy without me hurts my feelings. Maybe I'll just be buddy buddy with Hapa instead!

HI HAPA! WELCOME TO THE GAME! I THINK YOU'RE WAAAAAAY BETTER THAN MARV AND PALMAR! AND SOOOO MUCH MORE ATTRACTIVE TOO!
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
December 12 2012 16:51 GMT
#1127
And everyone's gone during the like hour that I get in front of a computer.

Neat.

Fuck it I'm just gonna read the thread on my phone then. Fuck y'all.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
December 12 2012 18:08 GMT
#1139
jaybrundage, wherebugsgo and Bluelightz were all Adam's "probable scum" reads in his reads post.

I don't believe that Adam, in a desperation act, called out three people on his team. Therefor, it is my opinion that at least one of wherebugsgo, jaybrundage and Bluelightz, probably two, are town.

This puts me at a crossroads because I had both wherebugsgo and jaybrundage as most likely scum before the flip.

@Clarity Re: Bluelightz Case -

Going back and reading it again, I don't like it very much. It's strewn with true statements (scum care about how they look more than town, Bluelightz calls X strange instead of scummy, etc) but has too many suppositions for my liking. For instance, why is Blue calling something strange instead of scummy alignment indicative? Why can't it just be strange? Why does the fact that he found further reasoning for voting Adam NECESSARILY mean that he cares about looking like a sheep? Why can he not have just found further corroborating evidence and posted it?

To be honest, I'm not sure what I think about Bluelightz myself, but your case isn't convincing me of much - only that Bluelightz is playing, as marv said, like Bluelightz. Sorry I didn't respond sooner, but work, lynch, sleep, etc. I liked it before the flip - not so much after the flip. Especially considering Adam put Blue as one of his "probable scum". Of the three people I mentioned at the top of this post, I think Blue is the least likely to flip scum. Not saying much considering I think jay and Bugs have VERY HIGH chances of flipping scum, but Blue's the least likely in my opinion.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
December 12 2012 18:49 GMT
#1146
Bugs you right...me trying to lynch jay like all game is the same as not having an opinion of my own. Spread lies elsewhere...I won't let you do it with me.

You don't even read my fucking posts when you're town because you think I'm a fucking joke so thanks for just CLAIMING scum to me. That makes things easier tomorrow for everyone.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
December 12 2012 18:53 GMT
#1148
It was a case. I'm sorry you didn't like it. Although I'm guessing it has to do more with the subject than the content...but that's just like...my opinion man.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
December 12 2012 19:08 GMT
#1151
What was special was the reads themselves. I liked his town reads and his scum reads (as far as I'm concerned) were good. He didn't provide any reasoning, you're right, but he showed up at the last minute - I suppose you would have expected full cases on all of his scum reads less than an hour before lynch?

It looked like he was town and giving his last reads.

As for why I think you're scum, there are a few reasons. I just gave one of them - you're actually communicating with me. As town, I find you generally CAN'T STAND playing with me because my means and methods of finding scum are so wildly different than yours. I find you generally IGNORE what I post, unless it's something outlandish like a bad claim when you're FORCED to comment.

As scum, you're much more inclined to interact with me. Probably because you think my reads are bad and I'll be a good person to either call out for shitty cases or sheep onto for a mislynch. Either way, you interact with me, in particular, much more as scum. And fucking here we are Bugs.

I find nothing condemning in your decision to push Tunkeg over Adam, as I did the same thing with jay...however you were NOT around at lynch time trying to push Tunkeg. Sure, okay, RL. But honestly you're one of the strongest-willed characters IN TEAM LIQUID HISTORY. Do you realize we almost no-lynched yesterday? Not your fault of course, but it just seems to me like a town Bugs would give more of a shit about the lynch than that.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
December 13 2012 09:04 GMT
#1381
I was not roleblocked and took no hits.

Bugs flipping town is obviously a shock, but the good news is that we weren't left with nothing overnight.

Remember when Adam claimed Vigilante?

On December 12 2012 09:47 Adam4167 wrote:
Alright I was hoping that I could talk my way out of this lynch without having to claim, but apparently that does not seem to be possible.

I am a Vigilante.

Give me a chance to prove i'm town tonight.


Pssssttt....there's emphasis in there.

"...tonight."

Adam's claim heavily implies the existence of a Scum Vigilante.

That being said.

On December 13 2012 13:33 Clarity_nl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2012 13:25 jaybrundage wrote:
Also Clarity why aren't you still going for me as your main scum read.

What changed your mind. Do you still think im scum?

So for spamming thread btw guys : /


You might be. I'm more convinced on a scum BL though, bugs having a townread on you also makes me hesitate.

Don't be ridiculous btw, I'm not scum and there's like a 1000 reasons why. I shot the guy who was probably going to get lynched tomorrow and who I agreed with looked like scum.


This post is extremely suspicious to me for a couple of reasons.

1) That's possibly the most atrocious justification for shooting someone ever. If he was probably going to be lynched tomorrow, then WHY IN THE FUCK WOULD YOU SHOOT HIM? It doesn't make any sense, because if most everyone can agree that he looks scummy then we can lynch him. It just doesn't make sense from a townie perspective. From a scum perspective however, it removes Bugs' ability to defend himself and possibly avoid getting lynched.

2) The second part of the statement reads like scum trying to fit in. "...and who I agreed with looked like scum". If you're town, the assumption is that if you shoot someone, it's because you think they look like scum. It feels like over-justifying his shot.

##Vote: Clarity_nl

The fact that there has been no counterclaim holds no relevance - if we have a town vig who didn't shoot, there'd be no incentive to claim because it's not a guaranteed trade as there could also be more than one town vig - and the implication of Adam's claim coupled with Clarity's A) shitty target and B) suspicious justification is more than enough to lynch Clarity today. I think he's scum.

I wish Bugs had told us who he jailed. Any crumb-hunters out there wanna take a stroll through his filter?
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
December 13 2012 09:05 GMT
#1383
I think it's a real claim. I think Clarity is a Scum Vigilante.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
December 13 2012 09:13 GMT
#1387
I missed that in the hullabaloo.

1) That means nothing because this is a semi-closed setup. There could be more than one town vigi, so the counterclaim thing is not relevant. There's little risk in a scum Vigi claiming a shot he ACTUALLY took because we have no way of knowing if they're scum or town.

2) Why would Mafia vigi one of the stronger town players? So he can't defend himself and avoid the lynch? Maybe turn it around on one of them? Scum removing a vet from the game in a NON LYNCH situation is actually extremely strong.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
December 13 2012 09:24 GMT
#1392
1) I don't know if it's likely, I'm saying it's possible and therefor terrible play for any vig to counterclaim. It's not about Clarity "gambling" on there being two vigs, it's about the scumteam "knowing" that it's possible and relying on that to keep a vig from counterclaiming.

2) The fact that it was Bugs makes the alternative not likely. I think it's much more likely that scum Clarity shot strong townie Bugs at an opportune time for scum to make a play like that than a town Clarity shooting a veteran scumhunter without giving him a chance to defend himself and find us scum. And regardless of whether you believe Clarity is scum or town, that makes the scum KP debears yes? You're telling me that you believe that scum shot at debears and ONLY debears?
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
December 13 2012 09:29 GMT
#1395
On December 13 2012 18:26 Djodref wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2012 18:24 VisceraEyes wrote:
1) I don't know if it's likely, I'm saying it's possible and therefor terrible play for any vig to counterclaim. It's not about Clarity "gambling" on there being two vigs, it's about the scumteam "knowing" that it's possible and relying on that to keep a vig from counterclaiming.

2) The fact that it was Bugs makes the alternative not likely. I think it's much more likely that scum Clarity shot strong townie Bugs at an opportune time for scum to make a play like that than a town Clarity shooting a veteran scumhunter without giving him a chance to defend himself and find us scum. And regardless of whether you believe Clarity is scum or town, that makes the scum KP debears yes? You're telling me that you believe that scum shot at debears and ONLY debears?


@ VE

Stop speculating, show us that Clarity is scum outside this claim.


Dude that's a response to Hapa don't tell me what to do. I'll tell you what I think of Clarity's play when I look at his filter. Right now I'm combing through ~Daypost stuff to see what else I missed, then I'll go look at his filter.
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VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
December 13 2012 09:39 GMT
#1401
Oh a missed hit like this would only put him back on the radar huh? Like, the way you and Hapa keep attesting that anyone doubting his claim is stupid, you mean like that kind of put on the radar?

Palmar are you at least following what I'm saying?
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
December 13 2012 09:45 GMT
#1405
You fucking dick.

Fine I'm going to bed.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
December 13 2012 18:17 GMT
#1491
On December 13 2012 22:32 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2012 18:04 VisceraEyes wrote:
I was not roleblocked and took no hits.

Bugs flipping town is obviously a shock, but the good news is that we weren't left with nothing overnight.

Remember when Adam claimed Vigilante?

On December 12 2012 09:47 Adam4167 wrote:
Alright I was hoping that I could talk my way out of this lynch without having to claim, but apparently that does not seem to be possible.

I am a Vigilante.

Give me a chance to prove i'm town tonight.


Pssssttt....there's emphasis in there.

"...tonight."

Adam's claim heavily implies the existence of a Scum Vigilante.

That being said.

On December 13 2012 13:33 Clarity_nl wrote:
On December 13 2012 13:25 jaybrundage wrote:
Also Clarity why aren't you still going for me as your main scum read.

What changed your mind. Do you still think im scum?

So for spamming thread btw guys : /


You might be. I'm more convinced on a scum BL though, bugs having a townread on you also makes me hesitate.

Don't be ridiculous btw, I'm not scum and there's like a 1000 reasons why. I shot the guy who was probably going to get lynched tomorrow and who I agreed with looked like scum.


This post is extremely suspicious to me for a couple of reasons.

1) That's possibly the most atrocious justification for shooting someone ever. If he was probably going to be lynched tomorrow, then WHY IN THE FUCK WOULD YOU SHOOT HIM? It doesn't make any sense, because if most everyone can agree that he looks scummy then we can lynch him. It just doesn't make sense from a townie perspective. From a scum perspective however, it removes Bugs' ability to defend himself and possibly avoid getting lynched.

2) The second part of the statement reads like scum trying to fit in. "...and who I agreed with looked like scum". If you're town, the assumption is that if you shoot someone, it's because you think they look like scum. It feels like over-justifying his shot.

##Vote: Clarity_nl

The fact that there has been no counterclaim holds no relevance - if we have a town vig who didn't shoot, there'd be no incentive to claim because it's not a guaranteed trade as there could also be more than one town vig - and the implication of Adam's claim coupled with Clarity's A) shitty target and B) suspicious justification is more than enough to lynch Clarity today. I think he's scum.

I wish Bugs had told us who he jailed. Any crumb-hunters out there wanna take a stroll through his filter?


What drugs are you on??

If you take out the possible existence of a mafia vigi, Clarity's shot was clearly town - he shot the primary scumread of the thread. In addition, Clarity is prone to sheeping strong players in some situations, notably me - he sheeped my Z-Bo case in Mario, he sheeped my syllo vote in Chrono. The fact that a mafia vigi is now possible doesn't suddenly make him scum, Hapa said well enough that it didn't make sense.

To the bold, given I'm the only one who's claimed roleblock (I think?) it's fairly obvious. Otherwise this would fit the bill:

Show nested quote +
On December 13 2012 09:11 wherebugsgo wrote:
if I actually got shot then I <3 marv.

Just sayingas




JUST WHY IN THE FUCK WOULD I DO THAT?! ADAM CLAIMED VIGI DID YOU NOT FUCKING READ MARV?! WHY WOULD I DISCOUNT THE POSSIBLE EXISTENCE OF A MAFIA VIGI?! ADAM'S FUCKING CLAIM DIRECTLY...[bigDIRECTLY[/big] IMPLIES THE EXISTENCE OF A MAFIA VIGI IN THE GAME RIGHT NOW!

Think about it, why would Adam claim Vigi? Why wouldn't he claim like...Jailkeeper? Why not claim VT? IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE for Adam to claim Vigi AND THEN SAY HE CAN PROVE IT when he's a Goon unless the scum team HAS a Vigilante!

Fuck marv, I expected this kind bullheadedness from Palmar, but et tu?!!? ET TU MARV?!?!
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VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
December 13 2012 18:44 GMT
#1492
Palmar, as long as it's not me, I'll vote for whoever you tell me to. Clearly no one is interested in lynching the scumVig, so I'm trusting YOU to find his teammate for us to lynch today.

For what it's worth, I'd lynch into Tunkeg, Djo if I couldn't lynch Clarity. Djo for his attempts at counterwagoning the scum lynch, and Tunkeg for his interaction with Bugs. It's clear that Bugs was not going to let Tunkeg go, and I'd bet anything that's why scum killed him.

But like I said, my vote is yours. I'm proven bad this game. Fix it.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
December 13 2012 18:47 GMT
#1495
Because he's the only one willing to vote scum with me. Could be a ploy, but I'm guessing he's town based on that alone.
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