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Tunkeg
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Norway1235 Posts
December 13 2012 21:01 GMT
#1502
On December 14 2012 05:49 grush57 wrote:
Tunkeg how did you find djordef townie.


I didn't
Tunkeg
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Norway1235 Posts
December 13 2012 21:52 GMT
#1511
On December 14 2012 06:24 Hapahauli wrote:
@ Tunkeg

Why do you find people going after Clarity a scumtell? It's certainly proves stupidity, but not scumminess.


Well I find it suspicious when people do stupid things. What are their motives for trying to get people to misstrust Clarity? If it is just that their stupid then it isn't a scumread, but as long as I assume they got half a brain I think it is something that is scummy.
Tunkeg
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Norway1235 Posts
December 13 2012 21:54 GMT
#1512
On December 14 2012 06:34 grush57 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2012 06:01 Tunkeg wrote:
On December 14 2012 05:49 grush57 wrote:
Tunkeg how did you find djordef townie.


I didn't


You didn't have a case on him and you said those were the people you found scummy.


If you arent reading what I am writing I won't answer you...
Tunkeg
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Norway1235 Posts
December 14 2012 06:36 GMT
#1606
Hapahauli is probably in bed with VE. Him sofdefending VE with this:

On December 14 2012 06:24 Hapahauli wrote:
@ Tunkeg

Why do you find people going after Clarity a scumtell? It's certainly proves stupidity, but not scumminess.


And him doing a chainsaw defense of VE on me, without really wanting to commit before others do first is really telling. Also his "attack" on me for being overconfident is something I would expect of scum, not town.

On December 14 2012 09:27 Hapahauli wrote:
I'm not liking Tunkeg too much at the moment. Not sure if I could lynch him over Bluelightz, but he just seems way too sure of himself in his filter.



Palmar is confirmed town! Like Palmar is a town read, but confirmed town is a huuuuuge stretch.
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Palmar is basicly confirmed town for me at this point. If he was scum he could have easily pushed me with the rest of you. As he stopped reading before he got to me in his video. If he did in fact read his PM after that video, and had flipped scum I think he would be going with the flow, and going for me. If there is a JK in this game he should definately jail Palmar to protect him from harm. He is the town that scum will be gunning for, 100%.


100% sure that WBG is scum, no doubts!
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On December 12 2012 16:02 Tunkeg wrote:
Boom! That was a great lynch! Now WBG is 100% scum. Look how hard he was pushing for me after Adam got in trouble. Look how he kept including Adam as his 2nd read, while not ever pointing out why he thought he was scummy. He did this because Adam was very obv scummy, and wbg not mentioning adam as scummy would look really bad for him. Also look at adams read post how hard he tried to distance himself from wbg, "agreeing" with my read on him. Also look at how wbg have presented his arguements (word twisting and misrepresenting facts) and his silly "80% Palmar is scum".

WBG must be lynched day 2. Palmar got to be protected if we got a jailkeeper. Also if we got a cop look into someone trying to push my case, voting me and/or push/vote some other case after Adam got mentioned in Palmars video.


Is sure that scum doesn't have a vigi... WHAT?
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On December 13 2012 18:36 Tunkeg wrote:
So WBG was a jk this game. So my entire scum or stupid analysis on him was wrong. He turened out to be just stupid.

Also anyone doubting clarity's claim is stupid. There is no reason at all for a scum clarity to claim such a hit. He had alot of towncred allready, a missed hit like this would only put him back on the radar.

Scum don't have a vig, as they would have taken out Palmar with it, doublestacking. Or perhaps some other vet they view as dangerous. With no vig they went for the best safe option, taking out someone who by pushing Adam early was looking very townie, and who wasn't likely to be protected.




So VE and Hapahauli is probably scum together.
Tunkeg
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Norway1235 Posts
December 14 2012 13:32 GMT
#1634
On December 14 2012 22:24 Palmar wrote:
I don't like the fact people aren't sheeping my Djodref case.


You should go vote VE instead!
Tunkeg
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Norway1235 Posts
December 14 2012 13:40 GMT
#1637
On December 14 2012 22:37 Djodref wrote:
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On December 14 2012 22:32 Tunkeg wrote:
On December 14 2012 22:24 Palmar wrote:
I don't like the fact people aren't sheeping my Djodref case.


You should go vote VE instead!


Tunkeg, can you answer my previous question please ?
Who was seriously dumb and a possible JK ?


Every player is a possible JK. The ones I meant with serious dumb players was the ones listed in my reads thread, thrawn and vivax. You are probably seriously dumb as well. Why does it matter?
Tunkeg
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Norway1235 Posts
December 14 2012 13:43 GMT
#1638
And there are other players that might be considered stupid as well. For sure WBG played like simpleton this game.
Tunkeg
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Norway1235 Posts
December 14 2012 13:56 GMT
#1644
On December 14 2012 22:53 Djodref wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2012 22:40 Tunkeg wrote:
On December 14 2012 22:37 Djodref wrote:
On December 14 2012 22:32 Tunkeg wrote:
On December 14 2012 22:24 Palmar wrote:
I don't like the fact people aren't sheeping my Djodref case.


You should go vote VE instead!


Tunkeg, can you answer my previous question please ?
Who was seriously dumb and a possible JK ?


Every player is a possible JK. The ones I meant with serious dumb players was the ones listed in my reads thread, thrawn and vivax. You are probably seriously dumb as well. Why does it matter?


Yeah but Vivax was listed as possible scum in your list. I don't think it's possible to have the same player as possible scum and possible JK. My point is that your read on Vivax in your list was fake. You know his alignment, you know he could be JK.


Yeah, thats exactly it. Damn you are a genious...

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On December 12 2012 02:17 Tunkeg wrote:
So I will probably lynched tonight and really I am not that bothered by it, because it will give you some good pointers on who you can trust this game, and who should be scrutinized.

Palmar is basicly confirmed town for me at this point. If he was scum he could have easily pushed me with the rest of you. As he stopped reading before he got to me in his video. If he did in fact read his PM after that video, and had flipped scum I think he would be going with the flow, and going for me. If there is a JK in this game he should definately jail Palmar to protect him from harm. He is the town that scum will be gunning for, 100%.

Adam is very likely scum at this point. I think he plays exellent as town, at least he have the games I have played with him, but is easily figured out when scum. This game he have been very vague, and unconfrontational and filled up his post with mostly nonsense. He have put out his feelers on multiple players to see if he can get something started. The kicker though is his less than convincing last post where he says I have a high chance of flipping scum. When adam says stuff like this I know he is either scum, or fed up with the game, he is to good to just put an unreasoned vote on me like that. I believe he is scum.

Clarity_nl have to be town. His play so far have been very pro-town in my eyes. All that he have done so far are screaming town to me. He asks the right kind of questions, he calls people out when he thinks they are scummy, and he have even made a little case. If he isn't town I will muchachoes surprised.

thrawn212 I have a townread on. Yes, he made a stupid joke play in the beginning. Yes he is totally missreading me, to such a degree that I find it laughable. But I think he is a stupid (in lack of a better word) townie, and not a scum player. I feel his intentions are good, but that he isn't really thinking things through. A tip for you thrawn, find some townplayer to sheep, that is pretty much the best you can do for town.

wherebugsgo is probably scum this game. You should look into him after killing adam on day 2. A part from his 80%preliminary scumread on Palmar, which is so very useless, he have basicly done nothing but trying to get me lynched while leaving numerous backdoors open which he can slide away into if his push on me fails, Adam, Munk-E. Adam being a choice he is pretty much forced to have on his list, as he is very obviously scummy. And even though wherebugsgo does anything to win an arguement, he is missrepresenting facts and twisting words to such a degree that it is ridculous. My favorite thus far is:

+ Show Spoiler +

On December 11 2012 23:56 wherebugsgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2012 23:42 marvellosity wrote:
On December 11 2012 23:34 wherebugsgo wrote:
alright, I'm going to ignore Palmar since he somehow finds both myself and Jay scummier than Tunkeg. The fact that he thinks that makes his opinions irrelevant.

Marv-are you still willing to kill Tunkeg? Convince me why I should kill Adam over Tunkeg, and I'll consider switching my vote. Given that they're both even right now I see no reason to switch.


Aye.

Question for you - how do you generally evaluate the play of Adam/Tunkeg? (not in this game)


generally with Adam and Tunkeg if they shy away from discussion they're probably scum. A lot of the time I find that when they are town I notice when they're present and know their opinions, and when they are scum they don't say anything useful.

Take Adam and LI for example. Adam was incredibly passive and I put him on my scumlist at some point because I kept thinking, damn, Adam isn't doing anything, but no one noticed him. (I also didn't bring attention to him because I was more concerned with VE and that stupid Toad + VE shit but this is irrelevant to my point)

Adam I know for a fact is complacent and passive as scum, and that's how his play here is. I don't feel like he has made any strong posts and he doesn't seem to have anything to contribute either.

Tunkeg tends to draw attention to himself as town (usually unintentionally) by putting forth his opinions or reads or doing things that people don't like for whatever reason. I know I myself have chewed him out for doing things like that. I don't recall ever playing with him when he was scum, but I imagine that his scum play is similar to most other players lately; just really complacent and passive.





Where he actually knows my scummeta without me ever having played scum on here. That is pretty impressive, and twisty, and made up, and bs...

When someone goes after me like WBG have done in this game I usually ask myself: scummy or stupid? I think WBG's townplay is above avarage for sure, and I don't think he is as stupid as his posts in this game makes him out to be. So the conclusion is that he is scum.

jaybrundage is scummy to me as I previously stated. He haven't posted much since, but I still find his posts very very fluffy and without content. He is unwilling to commit to any of his "reads" and he contradicts himself within the same posts, like:

+ Show Spoiler +

On December 10 2012 12:27 jaybrundage wrote:
I swear to god if thrawn doesnt explain him self. Hes the most anti town player i have seen in a while. Frustrating really. I am only hesitant to vote him because i dont like early bandwagons in general.

It hurts the conversation and shit to read if we all are voting the same person. Regardless of how unlogical his claims maybe (for town). Thrawn can you please drop your sharade and just attempt to explain your reasoning. Or as i said before your gonna get lynched



Djodref I am leaning scum on, for all the same reasons as before. He have made his fair share of posts, but all I see in them is .................. ....................... ........................... (nothingness). He also made a case on me that is less than weak.

Vivax I am back to a neutral stance on. I am not sure wheather his questions have been made to look active, or if he is just lazy, stupid and reads bad enough to not see that his questions have allready been answered previously. Also a player that if town, should find a good townie to just sheep.

The rest is pretty much under the radar for me. But I would be watching VE when he pops up again, he is quite easy to read when he starts posting.

##Vote Adam

PS: I'll stick around for awhile, playing some Dota, and I might pop in and answer you if I feel the need to do so. If I don't it is either because your question is stupid, I find you stupid/annoying and are ignoring you or that I simply missed it. Anyways, feel free to lynch me, at least then you know Palmar is pretty much confirmed town. This is probably of more value to the town than me sticking around. Remember to protect him from nighthits if you do this, and you will win this easypeasy.



Now try READING what I wrote on Vivax, THINK about it and then try again.

I take back what I said about you. You aren't possible stupid, you are stupid. Regardless of allignment...
Tunkeg
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Norway1235 Posts
December 14 2012 14:52 GMT
#1663
On December 14 2012 23:46 Palmar wrote:
I just want to point out that mafia will never shoot djodref, if clarity's claim is legit we've probably also used our only non-lynch kill.

Do you want this guy alive and kicking down the line? It's strictly the wrong play not to lynch him. Even if he somehow flips town, it's wrong not lynch him. No one should ever not be lynched after getting caught lying trying to hide the fact he was trying to defend scum. It's the most obvious lie since I've seen in a mafia game for a long time.

That being said, I guess it's time I look at other people. But really, give this a thought. Do you want to have to think about Djodref in lylo?


This is just horseshit and a real bad arguement for lynching him. Do we really want grush around at lylo, Bluelightz, thrawn? It could be said for half the remaining players. But it doesn't make your case on Djordref better (or worse for that matter). Scummieness is all he should be lynched for, leave all the other bullshit elsewhere.
Tunkeg
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Norway1235 Posts
December 14 2012 15:58 GMT
#1705
Alot of stupid comments and posts have been made in this thread, but saying WBG made a good post will win you the prize for most stupid comment. He played like shit, posted like shit, and acted like shit. Just try to forget he ever was in this game.
Tunkeg
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Norway1235 Posts
December 14 2012 16:02 GMT
#1710
On December 15 2012 01:01 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2012 01:00 VisceraEyes wrote:
LAWL

Oh man, selective humbleness. Palmar you're a treasure.


Hi, you're such a scum aren't you?


Then why the fuck aren't you voting him?
Tunkeg
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Norway1235 Posts
December 14 2012 16:06 GMT
#1713
He have alot of things that looks scummy...
Tunkeg
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Norway1235 Posts
December 14 2012 16:18 GMT
#1723
On December 15 2012 01:14 Vivax wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On December 13 2012 22:57 Tunkeg wrote:
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On December 13 2012 22:49 Palmar wrote:
Also I just really want Tunkeg to be town so I can at least claim bugs was wrong on day 1 as an excuse for me wanting to lynch him when he was town. It just looks a whole lot better if I didn't get bugs killed for trying to lynch some other scum than the one I wanted to lynch.

I want to be able to pull off "Well if you wanted me to think you're town, maybe you shouldn't have tried to lynch townies to save scum".


Don't worry, I am town. You can have a go at WBG post-game all you want, he played like utter shit this game.

Also there got to be a scum in either Jaybrundage or Bluelightz (or both). I don't think adam would post his "reads" without least including some of his scumbuddies as scum.


Hey Tunkeg, what about these two you mentioned?



Check out this post, it covers it:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=384953&currentpage=75#1498
Tunkeg
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Norway1235 Posts
December 14 2012 17:47 GMT
#1749
Half a league half a league,
Half a league onward,
All in the valley of Death
Rode the six hundred:
'Forward, the Light Brigade!
Charge for the guns' he said:
Into the valley of Death
Rode the six hundred.

'Forward, the Light Brigade!'
Was there a man dismay'd ?
Not tho' the soldier knew
Some one had blunder'd:
Theirs not to make reply,
Theirs not to reason why,
Theirs but to do & die,

Into the valley of Death
Rode the six hundred.

Cannon to right of them,
Cannon to left of them,
Cannon in front of them
Volley'd & thunder'd;
Storm'd at with shot and shell,
Boldly they rode and well,
Into the jaws of Death,
Into the mouth of Hell
Rode the six hundred.

Flash'd all their sabres bare,
Flash'd as they turn'd in air
Sabring the gunners there,
Charging an army while
All the world wonder'd:
Plunged in the battery-smoke
Right thro' the line they broke;
Cossack & Russian
Reel'd from the sabre-stroke,
Shatter'd & sunder'd.
Then they rode back, but not
Not the six hundred.

Cannon to right of them,
Cannon to left of them,
Cannon behind them
Volley'd and thunder'd;
Storm'd at with shot and shell,
While horse & hero fell,
They that had fought so well
Came thro' the jaws of Death,
Back from the mouth of Hell,
All that was left of them,
Left of six hundred.

When can their glory fade?
O the wild charge they made!
All the world wonder'd.
Honour the charge they made!
Honour the Light Brigade,
Noble six hundred!


+ Show Spoiler +
In other word follow your leader, Palmar, even if he dropped the ball on this one, and got talked around by the most overrated player on TL Mafia. He won't do it again this game. Follow him for the rest of the time he is here. Also lynch VE and Hapa.
Tunkeg
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Norway1235 Posts
December 14 2012 17:51 GMT
#1752
On December 15 2012 02:51 marvellosity wrote:
Hey Tunkeg! Go walk off a cliff and die, you scummy, arrogant, awful little shit.


Go fuck yourself you smug arrogant fucker :D
Tunkeg
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Norway1235 Posts
December 14 2012 18:15 GMT
#1764
On December 15 2012 03:08 marvellosity wrote:
When Tunkeg gives back to TL Mafia by coaching, co-hosting, or hosting newbie games and putting his time in for other people, then he can talk smack to people like bugs or me. Otherwise he can shut his cakehole.

Anyway I'm going to take a break for an hour or two, I'm still fuming 15 minutes on.


I don't give a shit what you do. You are still overrated as fuck, and you are still nothing but a punk ass kid, with a bigger mouth than sense...
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