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sandroba
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Xatalos
Finland9675 Posts
On December 08 2012 02:49 austinmcc wrote: Hi town, it's me, austinmcc, and I'm one of you. You are pretty sure that only one of Sandroba or I is town, and the other is mafia. I am either town and trying to figure the game out today, trying to leave you with my thoughts, trying to pull extra information out of other players OR I'm putting on a show of it. I'm asking for logs, I'm poking at lazermonkey, I'm actually doing things to get reads and push the game forward. But yes, I could be making a show of it. On the other hand, Sandroba, at most, is ... reading. That's nice of him, and it's nice he thinks today has just been a circular argument, but it hasn't. Today you will probably lynch me or lynch Sandroba. The game will almost certainly not end. Sandroba is putting no effort into the longer game. Sandroba is putting no effort into figuring things out. Sandroba is content to sit back and read, not engage, and do nothing. If I'm actually trying to push the game forward today, that fits. I'm town; he's scum; we're playing about how you'd expect. If I'm putting on a show of it...what is he doing? In that world, I'm mafia and he's town. Yet he's not making an effort to do anything beyond see me lynched. He's not trying to figure the game out, he's not engaging in any discussion, he's not asking for logs from our claimed masons. If you think that I'm just putting on a show, then why isn't Sandroba trying to do anything today? Becuase either he gets lynched today or tomorrow. There's no reason for him to put effort into this game, because he's dead either way. I'll flip watcher, you'll lynch him. There's absolutely no scenario where he survives and helps his team, so there's no reason for him to put in any effort. I'm actually starting to believe in the possibility of you being town. Sandroba playing like he has would definitely fit a Mafia who has given up and isn't going to leak any more information, since he's dead soon. But you've continued pushing even harder to play the game when your death has seemed almost certain. That's not how I'd expect Mafia to play at all. And if you're Mafia, you have really done an incredible job of appearing so townish throughout the game... I'm seriously reconsidering right now. Sandroba, how about you try adding something to the discussion? | ||
sandroba
Canada4998 Posts
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Keirathi
United States4679 Posts
On December 08 2012 02:59 Xatalos wrote: I'm actually starting to believe in the possibility of you being town. Sandroba playing like he has would definitely fit a Mafia who has given up and isn't going to leak any more information, since he's dead soon. But you've continued pushing even harder to play the game when your death has seemed almost certain. That's not how I'd expect Mafia to play at all. And if you're Mafia, you have really done an incredible job of appearing so townish throughout the game... I'm seriously reconsidering right now. Sandroba, how about you try adding something to the discussion? Yea, I'm seriously considering switching again. | ||
austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
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sandroba
Canada4998 Posts
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sandroba
Canada4998 Posts
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
You're doing nothing. You're acting like this game has paused for 48 hours, because it's just you and me up for lynch today. Whereas I'm acting like "Oh crap, I might die today, better work hard and make up for my mistake and leave town with everything I can." One of those is a townie reaction. One is the reaction of someone who knows he's dead and nobody will believe anything he says shortly anyway. | ||
sandroba
Canada4998 Posts
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sandroba
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
On December 08 2012 03:17 sandroba wrote: Or "I want to fake claim, I better make this work, instead of just suiciding" If that's my thought process then I wouldn't have claimed right at the end of N2. | ||
Keirathi
United States4679 Posts
##Vote sandroba My gut right now says that despite all the reasons to believe his claim is bullshit, that austin is just trying too hard to be scum. | ||
ShiaoPi
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5955 Posts
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sandroba
Canada4998 Posts
On December 08 2012 03:20 Keirathi wrote: ##Unvote austinmcc ##Vote sandroba My gut right now says that despite all the reasons to believe his claim is bullshit, that austin is just trying too hard to be scum. ![]() | ||
Xatalos
Finland9675 Posts
On December 08 2012 02:42 sandroba wrote: I'm not being lazy, I just don't see the point in repeating the obvious ten times over. Austin is for sure putting in a good show, but that's to be expected since it's likely he put all his chips in this silly move. I am reading this constantly, I just don't feel like participating in this circular argument. On December 08 2012 02:58 sandroba wrote: Huh? I'm not posting huge walls of nonsense because I have no agenda to get some townie lynch and trade with him one for one. If people were being dumb enough to believe your ridiculous claim, yes, I would have to maybe argue a bit more, but lucky that isn't needed. On December 08 2012 03:01 sandroba wrote: What would you like me to add? I made my stance pretty clear on everybody in this game. On December 08 2012 03:16 sandroba wrote: Actually it's paused for 120 hours. We were supposed to lynch Shiaopi 5 days ago. Sandroba, you're not making this easy. Even if you say you're not being lazy, what are these posts if not lazy? They don't contribute anything, they don't add any new information to the thread, they do absolutely nothing. If this goes on, I'll start having some serious trouble believing you're town and still playing like this. | ||
austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
On December 08 2012 03:22 Xatalos wrote: Sandroba, you're not making this easy. Even if you say you're not being lazy, what are these posts if not lazy? They don't contribute anything, they don't add any new information to the thread, they do absolutely nothing. If this goes on, I'll start having some serious trouble believing you're town and still playing like this. | ||
austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
Wanted to cut that quote down if it all pasted visible. My comment added was going to be that there's not a whole lot of "if this goes on" left. "If this goes on," I'll flip watcher and you won't believe he's town at all. | ||
Xatalos
Finland9675 Posts
On December 08 2012 03:20 Keirathi wrote: ##Unvote austinmcc ##Vote sandroba My gut right now says that despite all the reasons to believe his claim is bullshit, that austin is just trying too hard to be scum. Alright, I'm in as well. ##Unvote austinmcc ##Vote Sandroba At the very least this should force Sandroba to do something useful today. And considering austinmcc's devotion to pushing the discussion today, I'm starting to have cold feet about austinmcc flipping red. | ||
Xatalos
Finland9675 Posts
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
BH. Partially on your shoulders now. I don't see sandroba changing his vote, nor Lazermonkey. I'll keep answering any questions you have, if you've still got them. But right now I think I've been pretty clear. You don't believe I acted in accordance with my claim, fine. But you also made a case on your mason buddy. I'm not claiming I forgot my check on Sandroba, but it's not like everyone always uses their roles perfectly here. | ||
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