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Dienosore
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Brunei Darussalam622 Posts
November 25 2012 07:21 GMT
#2887
^ Ack, double negative in my first paragraph shouldn't be there

"Why didn't you assume the town would protect me..."
Dienosore
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Brunei Darussalam622 Posts
November 25 2012 07:24 GMT
#2889
On November 25 2012 15:37 Clarity_nl wrote:
Dieno, did you take any damage tonight?


Sry, I'd rather not say unless you absolutely demand it of me
Dienosore
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Brunei Darussalam622 Posts
November 25 2012 07:38 GMT
#2894
Im not going to tell you how much dmg I took last night, sorry, djo.

That being said, here is the claimed dmg report so far:

+ Show Spoiler +

Happahauli : 100 dmg
Kitaman27 : 50 dmg
Iamp : 30 dmg + a heal
Acro : 30 dmg
Djo : 30 dmg
Clarity : 30 dmg


Also, here is a list of notable claims and developments:

+ Show Spoiler +

- prome claims marv targeted syllo with a spell
- marv says hes a medic
- kita says new game is if hapa, oats, or phagga vote for him, he dmgs ppl
- keirathi claims to be 600ad char, possibly medic?
- oats claims robo and has multiple abilities
- Thechronicler claims he can see if two people are the same alignment, incriminated toad
- acro knows chronicler is being truthful, doesnt want to come into the group, says toad is queen zeal
- toad claims johnny, the attention whore robot, going to use 200 hp heal, redistrubute hp by hitting people, exposed as queen zeal scum by acro

Dienosore
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Brunei Darussalam622 Posts
November 25 2012 07:48 GMT
#2897
On November 25 2012 16:34 Djodref wrote:
For the other point, the fact that you considered phagga for your party and the fact that you are basing a lot of your decisions on your chart makes me uncomfortable to trust unique items to you.

Sorry, I don't mean to pick on you, but I have to ask this. Do you have a read on phagga that shows scum? Any specific reason why you dont trust him to be in the group?

I don't doubt that you are going to listen to other players but some of them could be mafia.

true, but if mafia try to mislead me, I'd expect the players that I have really good towny reads on to set them straight.

I don't know how much protection you can get but I giess that you are going to die if mafia really wants you dead.

Oooo... scary...


Don't worry, you made already a ver good job by playing like you do. You are almost confirmed now so it is incredibly useful for us now. I understand your frustation but we have to play as a team and you did already more than your part ^^

Thank you for these kind words at least ^^
Dienosore
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Brunei Darussalam622 Posts
November 25 2012 07:55 GMT
#2904
On November 25 2012 16:50 Djodref wrote:
EBWOB: by the way, you didn't deny the protection part, Dieno, so I'm going to assume that you were indeed healed or protected or some stuff


The fact im still here should have revealed at least that much to you ^^
Dienosore
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Brunei Darussalam622 Posts
November 25 2012 08:07 GMT
#2908
I've considered a few things, and I'm going to change my proposed group members.

New group:

CaveJohnson
Toadesstern
Hopeless1der

+ Show Spoiler +

lol, just kidding. heres the real new group:

Oats
Marv
Clarity
Dienosore
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Brunei Darussalam622 Posts
November 25 2012 08:17 GMT
#2911
On November 25 2012 17:11 Clarity_nl wrote:
You know the more people call me obvious town the more I'm afraid of getting randomly lynched down the line.


Why would townies lynch a fellow towny? Don't you mean "I'm afraid of getting gunned down in the night."?

Dienosore
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Brunei Darussalam622 Posts
November 25 2012 08:52 GMT
#2924
On November 25 2012 17:50 Oatsmaster wrote:
Clarity, Chronicler claimed the alignment thing not me . Djo, why are you trying so hard to get elected? Do you have strong objections to either me or diens party? I would take diens party but with me as leader because I would survive longer


This is acceptable to me.

##Vote: Oatsmaster
Dienosore
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Brunei Darussalam622 Posts
November 25 2012 08:55 GMT
#2926
Also, look who I just caught with his vote still on Toad

On November 25 2012 12:01 Hopeless1der wrote:
##Unvote: Oatsmaster
##Vote Toadesstern

Dienosore
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Brunei Darussalam622 Posts
November 25 2012 09:15 GMT
#2938
On November 25 2012 17:56 Djodref wrote:
Show nested quote +



Today, Vote Djodref as your Party Leader !



[i]Campaign Platform[i]


First of all, I would like to say that my main motivation for launching this campaign is to promote my ideas,like in real politics. I would greatly appreciate that you manifest your support of my ideas via your votes. I really want to win this election!


Top 1 reason to vote for me
I'm town and it is the only thing I know for sure in this game. This is something I want to show and prove to you during this campaign and by eventually leading you to a successful event !


Top 2 reason to vote for me: avoid the concentration of powers
As I've explained before, I think that the town biggest assets right now are Oats and Dieno. I don't want them to run as party leaders and gain some items that would make them a vulnerability for the town for the day we lost one of them to thr mafia or to Lavos.


Top 3 reason to vote for me: giving less room for the mafia to hide
I'm going to keep only one of the players of the previous party and introduce three new players including myself. I'm very confident to get the event to succeed with my team. So we are going to have three players "more likely to be town" that we could easily not consider as lynch candidates for the next lynch event.


My ticket



  • Djodref, as your heroic and truthful party leader !
  • Oats, the almost confirmed Robo
  • Clarity, the obvious townie, slayer of sandroba
  • The beautiful unknow, to play games with the mafia. My decision is definitive for the fourth member but I'm not revealing him for the reasons explained in cycle 1





Ugh my eyes are bleeding. We are going to be targets whether or not we are in the group, so there is no reason not to put us in right now. Completing events is my #1 goal right now. Any scum that we can turn over in the meantime is just extra cake for dessert. Until we have an established group, I don't think we should take any chances at the challenges.

It feels to me as if you are setting yourself up to drag in some unknown scumbuddy into the group, win the challenge anyway because of Robo carry, then be in a position of power to control the opinion of the lynch vote the next day. In the meantime, your scumbuddy now has good towny cred for passing a challenge.

Your third reason is just a straw point to back up your power play. While it's true that more people will have passed the group test and therefor be slightly 'cleaner' than others, I don't think it's worth it.
Dienosore
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Brunei Darussalam622 Posts
November 25 2012 09:28 GMT
#2946
If your gift repairs my sword, please use it asap
Dienosore
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Brunei Darussalam622 Posts
November 25 2012 09:57 GMT
#2960
When did you get it, and how were you notified that you got it?
Dienosore
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Brunei Darussalam622 Posts
November 25 2012 16:55 GMT
#3126
On November 26 2012 01:29 VisceraEyes wrote:
Marv are you not running for leader? Ugh, there were like almost 300 posts to catch up when I logged on.

Who's running with syllo and Dino in their team? I'll vote for that person because honestly, that's the team that's going to succeed imo.


So you're saying you don't want Robo in the group during 2300ad?
Dienosore
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Brunei Darussalam622 Posts
November 25 2012 17:46 GMT
#3159
On November 26 2012 01:24 risk.nuke wrote:
As I said I don't think Dia is a good addition to the team. Do you believe there are no repercussions to prevent town from beating the game using claims?


Are you are suggesting there is a built-in repercussion for roleclaiming in addition than becoming a huge target for mafia? Care to elaborate on what you think these repercussions might be? I ask because I think these strategic roleclaims are going to be one of our most powerful tactics to pass challenges in the future.


And in addition to that he's lost the majority of his hp. Hypothetically what if a condition is if a teammember has less then x hp the mission will fail, or maybe it will fail and kill him.


More random speculation angled to get me off the team. True, I am not 100% like Oats, but I still think the benefits of my presence in the group far outweighs any danger.


Syllo is by far better then both oats and dia, I've considered keith being better then oats aswell. And chronicler is very likely town. He's the one who copchecked toad so unless you think scum is trading 1for1 you shouldn't doubt him.

[/quote]

Syllo did a great job leading us d1 and d2. He also played a vital part in identifying Sandroba as scum. As far as the party is concerned, however, he has not claimed a power role, so should willingly step aside for those of us who have (me, oats).

And do you really think keith, the person who was least trusted out of the group due to his low modifier, is better than having Oats as Robo?

Why does it feel so much like you are trying to sabotage our group?
Dienosore
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Brunei Darussalam622 Posts
November 25 2012 17:59 GMT
#3169
Has Toad put up any real defense against the accusations yet other than saying, "No I'm not." ?
Dienosore
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Brunei Darussalam622 Posts
November 25 2012 18:09 GMT
#3177
If you are considering me for party leader, please don't. Instead, I suggest you give Oats your vote. He has more hp right now than I do (in case he gets an item, it will be less risky in his hands) and his role fits the lore right now.
Dienosore
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Brunei Darussalam622 Posts
November 25 2012 18:15 GMT
#3182
On November 26 2012 03:12 Djodref wrote:
EBWOP: but I'm not voting Oats until I obtain some assurance that TC is not in the party


Oats and I agreed earlier on a team consisting of me/marv/clarity
Dienosore
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Brunei Darussalam622 Posts
November 25 2012 18:23 GMT
#3190
On November 26 2012 03:13 risk.nuke wrote:
Dienosore, the reason is (and this is not the least biased by your actions in this game) is because you're a massive moron.

syllo, care to weigh on on what I think regarding HP and HSM?


I make an argument against your post and your only response is to get sarcastic then call me a moron. How do you ever expect me to trust you?

Is it too much to let the results of the events, rather than distracting speculation, determine whether or not our plan of attack is correct? We haven't lost a challenge yet, so I see no reason to change our line of thought about how groups should be formed.
Dienosore
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Brunei Darussalam622 Posts
November 25 2012 18:31 GMT
#3197
On November 26 2012 03:27 risk.nuke wrote:
Right now the general assumption is just that if one party member is mafia the party fails. But that doesn't make sense because then HSM would be useless.


I thought the general assumption was that my hidden modifier was boosted due to matching my role with the correct time period, enough so that I could potentially carry even if scum was on the team.
Dienosore
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Brunei Darussalam622 Posts
November 25 2012 18:40 GMT
#3202
On November 26 2012 03:32 Keirathi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2012 03:31 Dienosore wrote:
On November 26 2012 03:27 risk.nuke wrote:
Right now the general assumption is just that if one party member is mafia the party fails. But that doesn't make sense because then HSM would be useless.


I thought the general assumption was that my hidden modifier was boosted due to matching my role with the correct time period, enough so that I could potentially carry even if scum was on the team.

Does your role PM say anything about it being boosted if you're in the party during your era?

Mine doesn't, although I do get other bonuses when I'm in the party during my era.


No, it doesn't say I get a boost in my pm. I just assumed it because the likelyhood of syllo correctly picking 3 townies on day 1 was low, yet we still won the challenge.

It's highly possible Syllo just had some good reads, but surely having Frog in the squad during 600ad couldn't have hurt either.
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