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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
November 22 2012 14:19 GMT
#1221
Stop posting 1 liners Clarity or you'll be deemed useless/spammy/scummy. :D which you already are kinda on the verge of :D
No gg, No skill.
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 22 2012 14:20 GMT
#1222
On November 22 2012 23:19 marvellosity wrote:
All my questions have a point, I'm always somewhat spammy, and I never get mislynched.

Why did you even say that?

On November 22 2012 23:19 Oatsmaster wrote:
Stop posting 1 liners Clarity or you'll be deemed useless/spammy/scummy. :D which you already are kinda on the verge of :D


Oats answered for me. Hence the bitter part.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
November 22 2012 14:25 GMT
#1223
Clarity, I get the sense that you don't quite know where you stand in this game, or what you're trying to achieve.

You're latching on to minor points about things and pursuing them quite hard.

What do you think your primary goal of today is?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain17969 Posts
November 22 2012 14:26 GMT
#1224
On November 22 2012 23:14 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2012 23:07 Acrofales wrote:
Ugh, I should probably consolidate my thoughts and questions for Kita. He is really puzzling me. Here is the next question:

---

Kita: I really need more info if I am to consider you seriously. You are making a lot of sense. To decide between you three, I want all three of you to post your thoughts, answer questions and allow me to make up my mind.



Which is it?

Both. His posts make a lot of sense, but his alignment is puzzling me.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
November 22 2012 14:27 GMT
#1225
On November 22 2012 23:26 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2012 23:14 marvellosity wrote:
On November 22 2012 23:07 Acrofales wrote:
Ugh, I should probably consolidate my thoughts and questions for Kita. He is really puzzling me. Here is the next question:

---

Kita: I really need more info if I am to consider you seriously. You are making a lot of sense. To decide between you three, I want all three of you to post your thoughts, answer questions and allow me to make up my mind.



Which is it?

Both. His posts make a lot of sense, but his alignment is puzzling me.


You dissected his reads post well enough yourself. Presumably you do not characterise that post as "making a lot of sense", then. Was it just an anomaly?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 22 2012 14:29 GMT
#1226
I like questioning people, and I think it works best if it's like a conversation rather than me post a blurb of text followed by a single question, when that method of gets shut down as being called spammy or useless I guess it got me down.

My goal for today is to scumhunt. I think the election thing is important but I don't have to post much for it, just have to find my biggest townread who is running and look at their reads and see if I agree. If I do, that's great, back to scumhunting.
I haven't been as succesful, or I guess felt as succesful, as I did last game. I'll definitely have some reads ready before resolution period though.

I'm just bitter that you get away with playing the way I want to play, but I don't, I guess.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain17969 Posts
November 22 2012 14:34 GMT
#1227
On November 22 2012 23:27 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2012 23:26 Acrofales wrote:
On November 22 2012 23:14 marvellosity wrote:
On November 22 2012 23:07 Acrofales wrote:
Ugh, I should probably consolidate my thoughts and questions for Kita. He is really puzzling me. Here is the next question:

---

Kita: I really need more info if I am to consider you seriously. You are making a lot of sense. To decide between you three, I want all three of you to post your thoughts, answer questions and allow me to make up my mind.



Which is it?

Both. His posts make a lot of sense, but his alignment is puzzling me.


You dissected his reads post well enough yourself. Presumably you do not characterise that post as "making a lot of sense", then. Was it just an anomaly?

Well, I don't disagree with any of his reads, so in that sense it makes a lot of sense. What doesn't make a lot of sense is why that post even exists and why there is so little explanation in it...

Before I talk more, I would like to hear from Kita himself, though. I want to hear what he has to say, and if I talk more then he will know what to say to make me feel good about him.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
November 22 2012 14:34 GMT
#1228
On November 22 2012 23:29 Clarity_nl wrote:
I like questioning people, and I think it works best if it's like a conversation rather than me post a blurb of text followed by a single question, when that method of gets shut down as being called spammy or useless I guess it got me down.

My goal for today is to scumhunt. I think the election thing is important but I don't have to post much for it, just have to find my biggest townread who is running and look at their reads and see if I agree. If I do, that's great, back to scumhunting.
I haven't been as succesful, or I guess felt as succesful, as I did last game. I'll definitely have some reads ready before resolution period though.

I'm just bitter that you get away with playing the way I want to play, but I don't, I guess.


You've played what, 3 games? I have built up credit and reputation that you cannot have, regardless of how good you might be. Plus it implies a mis-characterisation that all short posts/questions are the same, which they are not. Obviously I'm biased, but mine are more useful than yours

What worries me about the underlined is that you simply sheeped me on to syllo. This is fine in itself as my ego loves to have players sheeping me. But I see little interaction with syllogism after this to either cement or sway away your vote. Given you are voting for syllogism I would expect that you would be more proactive in getting information from him.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
November 22 2012 14:38 GMT
#1229
A finally TL is working for me again, back to what I was saying earlier in the morning when I wasn't able to open the votingthread or this thread anymore.

I think we should be voting Kita.
I love voting Kita.

##vote Kita
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
November 22 2012 14:43 GMT
#1230
Acro you cant ignore my response to your post It took like 15 minutes to actually type it out..

Our vote for party leader has to be cast before the 47 hour limit right? And 47 hours from the start is around 9 hours from now right? I dont want to wake up too late and miss the vote time.
No gg, No skill.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain17969 Posts
November 22 2012 14:46 GMT
#1231
On November 22 2012 23:29 Clarity_nl wrote:
I like questioning people, and I think it works best if it's like a conversation rather than me post a blurb of text followed by a single question, when that method of gets shut down as being called spammy or useless I guess it got me down.

My goal for today is to scumhunt. I think the election thing is important but I don't have to post much for it, just have to find my biggest townread who is running and look at their reads and see if I agree. If I do, that's great, back to scumhunting.
I haven't been as succesful, or I guess felt as succesful, as I did last game. I'll definitely have some reads ready before resolution period though.

I'm just bitter that you get away with playing the way I want to play, but I don't, I guess.

<coaching mode>
I think the main difference between Marv's questions and your questions is that Marv's always seem to lead somewhere. They are poignant things that, when read, make one think "hey, I would like to know that". For instance, his questioning me just now made me actually think MORE about my own posts and Kita, and analyze my own thought process. Me being forced to post that, gives everybody an insight into how I think and that is an incredibly important tool for scumhunting.

However, your questions seem to be more sidetracks. Something like this:
On November 21 2012 12:02 Clarity_nl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2012 11:59 sandroba wrote:
Yes. I have the power of logic on my side. It's very rare these days.


So you're saying that you deduced that scum will know hp by flavor claims, or anything for that matter? Please explain to us idiots.

Questions like this are not scumhunting, they are questions about setup, and Sandro's thought process will not be laid bare in this way. A couple of questions like this is fine. Too many and people get tired and label you as unproductive.

Questions/statements like this:
On November 21 2012 13:16 Clarity_nl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2012 13:13 Z-BosoN wrote:
On November 21 2012 13:05 iamperfection wrote:
also why do we have to have the leader select all 3 wouldn't it be best for the town to put some input on the other team members?


That was my original train of thought. But should the decision become the leader's, that puts a TON of pressure on him (if he is very transparent in his thoughts), and helps consolidate our read on said leader.


But if we put up our strongest townread, doesn't that defeat the purpose?

I think we should play more to our wincon when it comes to missions and just scumhunt like it's a regular game.

are somewhere between meaningless and stating the obvious. There seems to be quite a lot of that in your filter.

In general, going through your filter it is hard to find what you are trying to accomplish with your questions. That is not a good thing. The disconnectedness and one-liners make your filter hard to read and seem very fluffy. I think that is probably what Marv is getting at when he asks what you are trying to accomplish.
</coaching mode>

I have no clue what to think of you atm, Clarity, which is why I'm bothering with the coaching. If I thought you were scum that would be pointless.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain17969 Posts
November 22 2012 14:48 GMT
#1232
On November 22 2012 23:43 Oatsmaster wrote:
Acro you cant ignore my response to your post It took like 15 minutes to actually type it out..

Our vote for party leader has to be cast before the 47 hour limit right? And 47 hours from the start is around 9 hours from now right? I dont want to wake up too late and miss the vote time.

I acknowledge that you made a response. Does that make you warm and fuzzy inside?

Why do you need me to respond?
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
November 22 2012 14:51 GMT
#1233
RIght.. so you asked certain questions and when I answer them you dont care .
well. Also how hard is it to delete irrelevant parts of a quote if you are not going to address/answer them?
No gg, No skill.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain17969 Posts
November 22 2012 14:51 GMT
#1234
On November 22 2012 23:38 Toadesstern wrote:
A finally TL is working for me again, back to what I was saying earlier in the morning when I wasn't able to open the votingthread or this thread anymore.

I think we should be voting Kita.
I love voting Kita.

##vote Kita

If I read your train of thought straight, then your only reason for voting Kita is because there is no bandwagon on him. That is a supremely shitty reason to vote for Kita and you know it.

What do you think of Kita? What do you think of the things Marv and I pointed out? What do you think of his team suggestion? Do you agree with him that Prom, Dieno and I are town?
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
November 22 2012 14:52 GMT
#1235
On November 22 2012 23:38 Toadesstern wrote:
A finally TL is working for me again, back to what I was saying earlier in the morning when I wasn't able to open the votingthread or this thread anymore.

I think we should be voting Kita.
I love voting Kita.

##vote Kita

If I understood correctly, you base your vote on nothing other than the fact two players already have a few votes and this third person does not. Is this correct?

I don't see anything in your filter that indicates you care about alignments or figuring things out, besides your initial post in which you randomly called someone mafia.
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
November 22 2012 14:54 GMT
#1236
Okay acro, if you are town you are compelled to vote for me now for being inside your mind
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain17969 Posts
November 22 2012 14:56 GMT
#1237
On November 22 2012 23:51 Oatsmaster wrote:
RIght.. so you asked certain questions and when I answer them you dont care .
well. Also how hard is it to delete irrelevant parts of a quote if you are not going to address/answer them?

Oh, I care. I just don't see what my answering your answer would accomplish.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
November 22 2012 14:56 GMT
#1238
@both:
Yeah kind of. I really think that the most likely scenario is that either Sandro or Syllo is mafia. And I am trying to figure things out, hence the Kita vote :p
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
November 22 2012 14:58 GMT
#1239
On November 22 2012 23:56 Toadesstern wrote:
@both:
Yeah kind of. I really think that the most likely scenario is that either Sandro or Syllo is mafia. And I am trying to figure things out, hence the Kita vote :p

What about goodkarma?
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain17969 Posts
November 22 2012 15:00 GMT
#1240
On November 22 2012 23:56 Toadesstern wrote:
@both:
Yeah kind of. I really think that the most likely scenario is that either Sandro or Syllo is mafia. And I am trying to figure things out, hence the Kita vote :p

What if Kita is the actual scum, but they're waiting for some gullible town, so their bandwagon seems less suspect when it utterly fails the first event?

What if you and Kita are scum together and your feigned naiveté is a calculated ploy?

Why Kita, and not GK? Hell, why not Dieno? If your entire reason for voting is that he has no bandwagon behind him, Dieno seems by far the best choice.

What is your reason for voting for KITA? And not your reason for voting against Sandro and Syllo, which is a different question.
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