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Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
November 24 2012 14:01 GMT
#2360
screw that

##vote Sandro
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
November 24 2012 14:11 GMT
#2362
and Chronicler, if you really think my mafia meta is to lurk or soft defende people (pretty much everything you said about me) you prooooobably should be voting me as well. I like people voting me, gives me some attention I'm craving for so much, it's in my blood... or well, whatever else :p

If you don't think so could you please stop the nonsensical "OMFG TOAD IS LURKING" or "OMFG TOAD IS SOFTDEFENDING" when I at least admitted the first one myself (the 2nd one was just bullshit) and when clearly neither of those is alignment indicating at all for me. You're a smurf right? You should know me and you should very well know that I'm Mr. HypnoToad, especially in the games I ended up playing as mafia.... LI, never forget oh and hi VE
So do me a favor and actually ready my posts instead of what you're doing right now.
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Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
November 24 2012 14:14 GMT
#2363
On November 24 2012 23:03 marvellosity wrote:
Toad, it's funny how you've called me scum like 50 times, but the only explanation you've given at all is that me/my posting seems "off".

Sincerely,
Someone-not-terrible.

I wouldn't say 50 times. And no the explanation I've given is that you're usually better than what you're showing.
I really disliked your d1 performance. I really disliked the points you were pointing out d1, like when I was voting Kita and you kept on harping about it like you're some guy in his 2nd game who never had a game with me. I really dislike the fact that you're not so much involved early on, like you did in whatever-the-name-was-the-one-were-I-was-mason and turned out to be mafia as well.
Can't say much about your d2 performace right now because again, I'm still catching up.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
November 24 2012 14:31 GMT
#2367
On November 24 2012 23:19 marvellosity wrote:
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On November 24 2012 23:14 Toadesstern wrote:
On November 24 2012 23:03 marvellosity wrote:
Toad, it's funny how you've called me scum like 50 times, but the only explanation you've given at all is that me/my posting seems "off".

Sincerely,
Someone-not-terrible.

I wouldn't say 50 times. And no the explanation I've given is that you're usually better than what you're showing.
I really disliked your d1 performance. I really disliked the points you were pointing out d1, like when I was voting Kita and you kept on harping about it like you're some guy in his 2nd game who never had a game with me. I really dislike the fact that you're not so much involved early on, like you did in whatever-the-name-was-the-one-were-I-was-mason and turned out to be mafia as well.
Can't say much about your d2 performace right now because again, I'm still catching up.


I didn't want to go there, because it didn't seem worth it, but you've been straight out lying about LV all game. Mainly to make yourself look better.

You excuse yourself in LV for inviting me into your mason chat as either "you were trolling" or there were 2 kenpachi-like people left to invite.

This is simple false. You invited me BEFORE confirmed town EchelonTee, because I appeared so town to you, and BEFORE extremely townie newbie austinmcc. You invited me because your read on me was wrong and you thought it was the useful thing to do.

Given I replaced in night 1 LV, and pushed a scum straight away who got modkilled, I was viewed as town from very early and that remained the case throughout the game. So saying "I wasn't so much involved early on" is once again a flat out lie.

Just to dig the boot in, mafia (me/wiggles) left you alive that game, despite you were confirmed town, for many many cycles because you were so completely and utterly useless.

Stop referring to games where you've managed to talk yourself into having a really rosy view of the outcome when in reality your read on me was 100% wrong and you got completely outplayed, and left alive by scum for being an irrelevance. And stop lying about it now.

I know that I was useless that game and I know that you kept me alive that game, no need pointing that out.

But no, I did not invite you to the mason circle because of a read. I invited you because I had to because I assumed that mafia would either kill me or ET at almost-lylo. If I remember correctly you guys DID kill ET that night and me the next one. Inviting him would have been useless because of that. If left unharmed I knew that I could get another guy into the circle as well so there was no reason to get either ET or Austin in there the first (of the last 2) nights at all.

You even said yourself that you had to step up the game postgame and were afraid that it'd look odd after how you pretty much lurked after from d2 on and had to step up the game later on to lead people.
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Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
November 24 2012 16:42 GMT
#2393
Okay done reading. Marv looks definitely better d2 so I'll ignore him for now.
Sandroba looks the same way he did d2 so I still think he's the best way to go, not to mention that it's not that much time left.
So much for the changes for d1 to d2.

Drazerk looks like a madmen, like you guys said and well it's Drazerk.... Those people get shot and not lynched, it's as simple as that. A lynch on Drazerk is a (imo) random lynch as he could be doing that from both points of view and I don't have an idea what's going on in his head. Additionally I'd say that's probably not going to change that soon, which is why I'd say we let vigs deal with him, both to get rid of him and to make sure we don't have a Drazerk lynch that gives us 0 information while flipping like a dice role. The bad thing about lynching Drazerk is that anyone and their mom can hop on that lynch and say "herpa derp it's Drazerk, let's lynch him beacuse he's anti-town" and after the lynch we're in complete chaos because he either flipped red and everyone's pissed at those who thought he shouldn't be lynched because he's always like that or he's going to flip his chef / invoker thingie and people we don't get anything out of it because he was doing bullshit after all.
TL; dr: Don't lynch that guy, shoot him. Completly ignore him in all other regards.

Other than that I don't really like Chroniclers fashion of going after people. Can't help but feel that he thinks he needs to emphasize and point out very obvious things a lot. Could be me omgusing though, so I'd rather have some input from someone else about that.

On November 25 2012 01:31 Dienosore wrote:
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On November 24 2012 23:01 Toadesstern wrote:
screw that

##vote Sandro


I mapped you voting for sandro a long time ago. Why do you feel the need to vote him again, and in such a lackadaisical manner?

[...]



I didn't. On the start of d2 I said I'd like to vote for Sandro, maybe marv, went to the trainstation and was basicly afk for 24 hours. Now I'm back and gave a heads up on my current thoughts.
I usually don't feel the need to copy&paste what I said earlier if nothing changed but I can do that from now on if it you makes you feel better :p

I actually haven't understood your map yet, like Marv said I've been mainly mentioning Sand and him d1&d2 so far, maybe Keir a little d1 but I think I made it very clear that that was on purpose to get something going and I don't see arrows between Marv and me.
But than again who knows what arrow belongs to what person
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Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
November 24 2012 16:52 GMT
#2398
On November 25 2012 01:46 kitaman27 wrote:
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On November 25 2012 01:42 marvellosity wrote:
On November 25 2012 01:36 kitaman27 wrote:
On November 25 2012 01:19 marvellosity wrote:
On November 25 2012 01:17 kitaman27 wrote:
On November 25 2012 00:26 Acrofales wrote:
Not saying Drazerk should never be lynched, but I fail to see how his claim makes him a priority for lynching now. The candidacy is only damning because I agree there should have been some scum in there.


If Cave should be lynched, when is the best time to do so? Is he going to suddenly provide a page long post of his suspicions in the coming days that's going to give us insight into his alignment? Is the endgame the best time to take care of him when we're battling Lavos? On day three or four, would you rather have more information to go by for Cave or another player?

On November 25 2012 01:05 marvellosity wrote:
kita, why do you want to lynch Cave?

Isn't he basically a policy lynch?


Out of the players that you have commented on, Cave appears to be one of your strongest scumreads. Has your opinion changed? I guess it depends what you classify a policy lynch as. If a player gets caught lying and is anti-town the entire game, is it following a policy lynch or is it lynching a player because they are showing scummy traits?


I abandoned my scumread on Cave in favour of a wtf-read upon learning it's Drazerk the madmen.

As you know Drazerk lies and is anti-town all the time regardless of his alignment.

Does this not make it a policy lynch?


Perhaps, but I still view him as anti-town, as oppossed to a policy lynch on a player like BM, simply due to the fact that he is BM. I usually don't advocate lynching liars that I can see some benefit from, such as GM's fake medic claim in team melee, but I'm not seeing how drazerk's claim benefits the town or makes any sense. How do you recommend we deal with him? Ignore him and save him for last?

What is your opinion on nuke?


I'm not sure about nuke right now. He seems somewhat invested but not enough to make me want to call him town. Just a note on your case, you said he wasn't worried day 1 when voting for sandroba whether he was town, but he had said when he did so

"Additionally his activity is promising and I have a pretty good insight of how he plays."

which at least indicates a read of some sort.

Regarding Cave: perhaps he can be roleblocked and vigged at some point, maybe he can be lynched later. But is it seriously your opinion that he has the highest chance of flipping scum today? It's the fact that you are considering this that seems so subpar from you (sorry if you feel insulted by this).

It feels like the easy way out on a lynch, and that does not feel like your town play I read from LV/Storm at all.


You do realize that my entire focus in Storm was pushing a "policy" lynch on RoL due to his absence right? He lived three cycles longer than he should have -_-

Anyways, there are a couple more people I want to bring up, then I'll decide on a preferred candidate. Brb.

You had to call the lynch candidate today, correct?

Did you pick Draz? Just out of curiosity.
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Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
November 24 2012 16:56 GMT
#2400
that's what I thought but if that's the case he should be fine with "sheeping" and trusting syllos judgement on top of not getting 200HP worth of damage.

If he had picked Draz the conversation right now would make a lot more sense.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
November 24 2012 17:00 GMT
#2407
On November 25 2012 01:57 kitaman27 wrote:
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On November 25 2012 01:49 marvellosity wrote:
Don't bullshit me, please.

On November 25 2012 01:11 kitaman27 wrote:

I started disliking Sandroba when Sandroba stopped acting like a townie. If you think that's suspicious you need to learn how to play this game. Furthermore the reason I'm voting sandroba is not inactivity and if you don't think he's scummy I want to hear concrete reasons why from you.


You are not voting for sandroba nor have you given indications that is where you vote will end up.


lol that's not my post. It got copied into mine from a quote copy/paste -_-

@Toad, no I haven't decided yet. I have one more group of people I want to look into first.




didn't you say:
On November 24 2012 04:33 kitaman27 wrote:
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On November 24 2012 04:28 syllogism wrote:
On November 24 2012 04:19 kitaman27 wrote:
On November 24 2012 04:09 syllogism wrote:
I'll give my thoughts as to who should be our lynch tomorrow. Taking a break today and not just because I'm lazy and there is no night cycle.


Considering I have to submit a lynch guess tonight or else I receive a huge chunk of damage, it really would be nice if you would be able to take tomorrow off instead

Also, I've been pulled into watching an awful family movie. Looks like I'll be posting in a couple hours XD

That's pretty annoying. When do you have to send the answer in? It doesn't sound like a mafia ability to me


I have 24 hours from the last day post, so about 4.5 hours.

If its not a mafia ability, then the player responsible should be claiming and explaining why they are targeting me with it. Otherwise, if they are caught with it at a later point then they should be assumed anti-town.

Be back as soon as I can.

?
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
November 24 2012 17:00 GMT
#2408
ah ok got sniped
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
November 24 2012 17:08 GMT
#2416
On November 25 2012 02:01 marvellosity wrote:
what toad?

kita will have guessed the lynch, but he's putting on a show for us deciding who he wants to lynch with his vote...

okay once again in slow:
I figured that if Kita had picked Draz instead of Sandro it would make a whole lot of sense considering what he's posting right now. The show he's putting on as you put it so charmingly.

If he guessed Sandroba he should be perfectly fine voting Sandroba, even just for the sake of his own life, after all we got a lot of people, including Syllo, being very confident about Sandroba being mafia.

Now if he actually picked Sandroba this show just doesn't make sense at all unless it's for the sake of being a show. To look like someone who's actually having troubles picking the right vote while he actually has been set on Sandroba for the last 24 hours.


The first one (picking Draz) would be weird. The second one (picking Sandroba but fighting a Sandroba lynch) is someone pretending to be someone he's not, as you just said. That's why I asked because I figured him picking Draz, while being prety unlikely is a possibility that would explain things. But telling people who he picked probably isn't good either, at least not if he's town.
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Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
November 24 2012 17:21 GMT
#2428
On November 25 2012 02:11 Clarity_nl wrote:
Can someone other than marv confirm that Drazerk would be a coinflip at the point?

the stories I told about BM and drazerk weren't actually made up.

The guy claimes bulletproof, unroleblockable medic telling people not to protect *insert townish looking VET* if you're a medic yourself because he'll do that himself just to tell us the next day he lied, he's just a VT and he's sorry that the VET died because he wasn't able to protect people as a VT.
Yep, that's Drazerk.
No idea if it's really a coinflip but that guy is hard to read and is playing anti-town no matter of alignment.

And yeah I stand by what I said: Shoot those guys, don't lynch them.
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Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
November 24 2012 17:30 GMT
#2433
On November 25 2012 02:27 TheChronicler wrote:
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On November 24 2012 21:39 Acrofales wrote:
On November 24 2012 20:57 marvellosity wrote:
On November 24 2012 20:38 sandroba wrote:
On November 24 2012 20:34 Acrofales wrote:
@Sandroba: a lot of the case against you is inspired by the idea that scum must have had someone in the running for party leader yesterday. Do you agree with this? And if it's not you, then who was it?

I answered that already: kita. He got overshadowed by his lack of activity and the fact that everyone was supporting me or syllo right off the bat.


I've not seen any reasoning from you on why kita (or anyone else for that matter). What gives? You're not pushing anyone. Probably you only have to convince syllo, but this influential punter wants to know why you're not pushing your reads either?

Is not pushing reads a scumtell? Especially if so blatantly obvious about it?


Regarding Prome's interactions with me: I'm ok backing up Prome on this aspect of his play. As the target I didn't feel anything unnatural about it. I tend to have quite specific and different interactions with people.

I saw iamp mentioned, and I agree with keir/hapa. Was a townread early but waning.

Regarding my own play - I seem more interested on a lynch day than some party leader n stuff day? Go figure if that makes sense from what you know about me as a mafia (the game) player.

Today I need to research kita quite a bit to see if I'm being unfair with the standards I'm holding him to. I can't really get over right now how he said he supported a sandroba lynch (as if he always had) but had never mentioned it before and has never mentioned it again. syllogism's assertion that kita goes after easy targets hasn't helped.

I agree. Today, I want to figure out Kita, GK and Prom. I also feel that I am starting to figure out Chronicler, which will allow me to go over his filter again and see if it makes sense as town.

On TheChronicler - just totally uninterested. I still don't really think he's scum and it's all a bit tedious.

From the way the game has progressed I get the impression that sandroba and kitaman aren't both town. And there are reasons for both to be scum. Now to find out which is the best lynch.

I am more cautious. I honestly feel that Toad could also have been the scum in the running. I haven't analyzed his play yet, but Sandro is giving answers that feel right. As stated before, his absense of caring can be explained by him simply going afk at the wrong time. His failure to give constructed reads seems fairly in line with what I know about him in the thread. Syllo seems to be trying to read Sandro as if they are skyping each other, which is simply not the case here. I feel Sandro is not playing any different from the town games I have seen him in, except for a noted drop off in activity.

I also think his claim of using "shadow" is indicative of a townie use, but he might be bamboozling us. I realized before he replied that his self-pity could be explained as a townie who is quite unused to getting mislynched feeling himself powerless to convince people (or Syllo) that he's town.

Additionally I am a bit suspicious of the way the Sandro wagon formed. It is basically one giant sheep of Syllo, which is way too easy for scum to just hop on with no-to-little reasoning. While I realize this would happen regardless of Sandro's alignment (based only off what Syllo thinks), it doesn't mean I like it.


Agree 100%. Really happy we're on the same page for something in this game.


If that's how you feel you should probably vote me. Saves me a lot of trouble.
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Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
November 24 2012 18:16 GMT
#2466
Acro sweetie do me a favor and vote me or I'll do stupid things.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
November 25 2012 02:50 GMT
#2819
When did you check Sandroba and when did you check me? Sandroba just flipped frame busdriver, just asking because I'm not mafia.

I'm Johnny the attention-whore robot.
I'm leader of a gang and therefore got the biggest ego in town. If I don't get 1 vote per day I take lots and lots of dmg.
I don't want to get too much into detail there but I would have taken 500 damage yesterday had noone voted for me. Not entirely sure because of my internet going out but I wasn't able to ask Greymist because of that so I just wanted to be safe because my role already got changed once...
Besides being able to literally kill myself I can use one of my machines and charge them for healing powers. I can only charge or heal, not both per night. I hit myself n1 for 100dmg and I should have targeted Hapa this cycle for 100 dmg getting a 2nd charge.

Not sure if I can actually copy & paste my role, so I just described it and the best way to play it probably would have been to outright claim it d1 but I wanted to play it out, therefore I tried to be somewhat okayish d1, getting at least 1 vote (thx oats :3 ) and lurked d2, hoping that would do the trick to get a vote on me. It didn't so I started to behave more and more retarded by the minute until I had people voting for me :p

Things that I have posted before:
On November 22 2012 06:24 Toadesstern wrote:
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On November 22 2012 06:15 GreYMisT wrote:
Vote Count

Kitaman27 (1): Kitaman27

Djodref (1): djodref

Sandroba (4): risk.nuke, Hopeless1der, Acrofales, kushm4sta

Dienosore (1): Dienosore

Toadesstern (1): Oatsmaster

Syllogism (4): Marvellosity, Clarity_nl, iamperfection, TheChronicler

Acrofales (1): Promethelax


Players who have yet to vote (12): CaveJohnson, Hapahauli, Z-BosoN, strongandbig, goodkarma, BioSC, Keirathi, syllogism, phagga, Adam4167, sandroba, Toadesstern

Remember that voting is mandatory.

All votes must be in by Thursday, Nov 22 11:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00)

Does that mean you can actually vote for yourself? I figured that's not possible oO

My role says I need to be voted at least once a day. That's why I said I assumed you can't vote yourself. Greymist told me to change it to "you need to be voted once per cycle by someone OTHER than yourself"

On November 23 2012 00:48 Toadesstern wrote:
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On November 23 2012 00:36 risk.nuke wrote:
On November 23 2012 00:20 Toadesstern wrote:
On November 23 2012 00:13 marvellosity wrote:
On November 23 2012 00:12 Toadesstern wrote:
On November 23 2012 00:11 Acrofales wrote:
On November 23 2012 00:03 Toadesstern wrote:
On November 23 2012 00:00 Acrofales wrote:
On November 22 2012 23:56 Toadesstern wrote:
@both:
Yeah kind of. I really think that the most likely scenario is that either Sandro or Syllo is mafia. And I am trying to figure things out, hence the Kita vote :p

What if Kita is the actual scum, but they're waiting for some gullible town, so their bandwagon seems less suspect when it utterly fails the first event?

What if you and Kita are scum together and your feigned naiveté is a calculated ploy?

Why Kita, and not GK? Hell, why not Dieno? If your entire reason for voting is that he has no bandwagon behind him, Dieno seems by far the best choice.

What is your reason for voting for KITA? And not your reason for voting against Sandro and Syllo, which is a different question.

dude I just answered that with the post you quoted...
Well not the 2nd question because that's obviously bullshit but everything else.

Okay, let me rephrase:

Your ONLY reason for thinking Kita is town is because you think one of Sandro/Syllo is scum. You are therefore blindly following him, implying you think he is not only town, but his judgement is good (and you therefore think Prom, Dieno and I are town as well).

Is this a correct assessment of your recent thought process?

nope


I would like to know why you are seeking to make yourself irrelevant in this town. What is your motivation for making obscure posts without reasoning, and therefore leading town to distrust or ignore what you say?

Why do you want this, Toad?

I still need to find the guy I want to vote for.

Syllo's most recent post was decent and so was Acros.
Acro's apparently a bit on the slow side but that's fine.
Risk is asking the wrong questions and you are suprisingly suprised about something you know very well and you should definitely not need to ask the questions you did. I would have expected you to just tell me to shut up and stop it without asking why I'm doing it.

That begs the question: why do you feel the need to emphasize on something like that when you shouldn't have to?

what do you mean I'm asking the wrong question? And what questions are you referring to? What the hell are you talking about?

The fact that you asked about Goodkarma rather than why I'm voting Kita without reasoning. I would have thought the 2nd one should be the more interesting part.
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On November 23 2012 00:35 marvellosity wrote:
On November 23 2012 00:30 Toadesstern wrote:
On November 23 2012 00:23 marvellosity wrote:
On November 23 2012 00:20 Toadesstern wrote:
On November 23 2012 00:13 marvellosity wrote:
On November 23 2012 00:12 Toadesstern wrote:
On November 23 2012 00:11 Acrofales wrote:
On November 23 2012 00:03 Toadesstern wrote:
On November 23 2012 00:00 Acrofales wrote:
[quote]
What if Kita is the actual scum, but they're waiting for some gullible town, so their bandwagon seems less suspect when it utterly fails the first event?

What if you and Kita are scum together and your feigned naiveté is a calculated ploy?

Why Kita, and not GK? Hell, why not Dieno? If your entire reason for voting is that he has no bandwagon behind him, Dieno seems by far the best choice.

What is your reason for voting for KITA? And not your reason for voting against Sandro and Syllo, which is a different question.

dude I just answered that with the post you quoted...
Well not the 2nd question because that's obviously bullshit but everything else.

Okay, let me rephrase:

Your ONLY reason for thinking Kita is town is because you think one of Sandro/Syllo is scum. You are therefore blindly following him, implying you think he is not only town, but his judgement is good (and you therefore think Prom, Dieno and I are town as well).

Is this a correct assessment of your recent thought process?

nope


I would like to know why you are seeking to make yourself irrelevant in this town. What is your motivation for making obscure posts without reasoning, and therefore leading town to distrust or ignore what you say?

Why do you want this, Toad?

I still need to find the guy I want to vote for.

Syllo's most recent post was decent and so was Acros.
Acro's apparently a bit on the slow side but that's fine.
Risk is asking the wrong questions and you are suprisingly suprised about something you know very well and you should definitely not need to ask the questions you did. I would have expected you to just tell me to shut up and stop it without asking why I'm doing it.

That begs the question: why do you feel the need to emphasize on something like that when you shouldn't have to?


Why would you expect this at all? The Toad I know for either alignment doesn't seek to marginalise himself like you seem to want to be doing.

If you still need to find a guy you want to vote for, why have you made a placeholder vote? In your first post of the game you said you would only be voting for someone you definitely had a townread on.

Your play definitely needs emphasizing because it is out of character for you and it is quite important to know why.

Okay marv. How many games did we play together? Tell me just one game in which I don't do things with lacking reasoning to get some reactions.
I mean I wouldn't put it that way:
Why would you expect this at all? The Toad I know for either alignment doesn't seek to marginalise himself like you seem to want to be doing.
because that's hardly the intention but I'm doing that literally every single game.
Hence my suprise about why you're so puzzled of all people.


Perhaps I don't remember your play too well, then. Sure you do illogical things, and half the time I don't understand what your posts are saying, but usually they are part of some big show. I don't think I'm wrong to think this. There's a lack of HypnoToad so far, don't you think?

For all I know what you're criticising is "HypnoToad". Remember the game I was the phone booth mason in which you were mafia? I'd say that game was a characteristic "screw this I'm board, let's HypnoToad"-game to the extreme. I'm not planning on doing that again but that's what "HypnoToad" is about. Yeah there was no big fireworks this time around but it's still early in the game, isn't it? So I'm really having troubles with your judgement here.
You're telling me there was little HypnoToad in this game so far and yet you're criticising me right now? That just not making sense and again, I feel like you should know better of all the people.
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On November 23 2012 00:33 Acrofales wrote:
On November 23 2012 00:30 Toadesstern wrote:
On November 23 2012 00:23 marvellosity wrote:
On November 23 2012 00:20 Toadesstern wrote:
On November 23 2012 00:13 marvellosity wrote:
On November 23 2012 00:12 Toadesstern wrote:
On November 23 2012 00:11 Acrofales wrote:
On November 23 2012 00:03 Toadesstern wrote:
On November 23 2012 00:00 Acrofales wrote:
[quote]
What if Kita is the actual scum, but they're waiting for some gullible town, so their bandwagon seems less suspect when it utterly fails the first event?

What if you and Kita are scum together and your feigned naiveté is a calculated ploy?

Why Kita, and not GK? Hell, why not Dieno? If your entire reason for voting is that he has no bandwagon behind him, Dieno seems by far the best choice.

What is your reason for voting for KITA? And not your reason for voting against Sandro and Syllo, which is a different question.

dude I just answered that with the post you quoted...
Well not the 2nd question because that's obviously bullshit but everything else.

Okay, let me rephrase:

Your ONLY reason for thinking Kita is town is because you think one of Sandro/Syllo is scum. You are therefore blindly following him, implying you think he is not only town, but his judgement is good (and you therefore think Prom, Dieno and I are town as well).

Is this a correct assessment of your recent thought process?

nope


I would like to know why you are seeking to make yourself irrelevant in this town. What is your motivation for making obscure posts without reasoning, and therefore leading town to distrust or ignore what you say?

Why do you want this, Toad?

I still need to find the guy I want to vote for.

Syllo's most recent post was decent and so was Acros.
Acro's apparently a bit on the slow side but that's fine.
Risk is asking the wrong questions and you are suprisingly suprised about something you know very well and you should definitely not need to ask the questions you did. I would have expected you to just tell me to shut up and stop it without asking why I'm doing it.

That begs the question: why do you feel the need to emphasize on something like that when you shouldn't have to?


Why would you expect this at all? The Toad I know for either alignment doesn't seek to marginalise himself like you seem to want to be doing.

If you still need to find a guy you want to vote for, why have you made a placeholder vote? In your first post of the game you said you would only be voting for someone you definitely had a townread on.

Your play definitely needs emphasizing because it is out of character for you and it is quite important to know why.

Okay marv. How many games did we play together? Tell me just one game in which I don't do things with lacking reasoning to get some reactions.
I mean I wouldn't put it that way:
Why would you expect this at all? The Toad I know for either alignment doesn't seek to marginalise himself like you seem to want to be doing.
because that's hardly the intention but I'm doing that literally every single game.
Hence my suprise about why you're so puzzled of all people.

Oh god, is this Toad the drama queen feeling unloved because he didn't get elected party leader, so will now throw a temper tantrum by playing badly until the rest of town listens to him?

Dude, if you knew :p
I'm going to run to leader every single day from now on. I have to, it's my nature


On November 24 2012 23:11 Toadesstern wrote:
and Chronicler, if you really think my mafia meta is to lurk or soft defende people (pretty much everything you said about me) you prooooobably should be voting me as well. I like people voting me, gives me some attention I'm craving for so much, it's in my blood... or well, whatever else :p

If you don't think so could you please stop the nonsensical "OMFG TOAD IS LURKING" or "OMFG TOAD IS SOFTDEFENDING" when I at least admitted the first one myself (the 2nd one was just bullshit) and when clearly neither of those is alignment indicating at all for me. You're a smurf right? You should know me and you should very well know that I'm Mr. HypnoToad, especially in the games I ended up playing as mafia.... LI, never forget oh and hi VE
So do me a favor and actually ready my posts instead of what you're doing right now.


Again, would have been best to outright claim it but I wanted to play it out. I had a bullshit postingrestriction last game as well and it freaked me the fuck out that I wasn't allowed to post for 48hours straight when I wanted to so badly. This time I just when chilling and thought I'll live with it instead of stressing me out how horrible this role is.

So again: When did you check me and Sandro?
And sorry for playing the way I did but I really had to. I don't assume you'll stop lynching me because I might as well make up some ridiculous bullshit and had this planned since the very first hour of the game I guess...
Anyway don't listen to Kita, don't lynch Draz. I'm going to use my 200HP heal on someone tonight, I don't think I'll be able to gather another charge if the next cycle is a lynch again and we (somehow oO) got a red check on me after how I played :p
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
November 25 2012 02:53 GMT
#2821
oh and obviously asking people yesterday about voting me please (I think I asked chronicler & acro) was as well because I still needed the one vote to dodge the 500dmg.

Oh and I'll run for leader, vote me please :3
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
November 25 2012 03:04 GMT
#2830
On November 25 2012 12:01 Hopeless1der wrote:
Hey Tooaaaadddd...Can i haz ur heal? I'll give this vote I found. Look!

##Unvote: Oatsmaster
##Vote Toadesstern

I was planning on healing either our frog or syllo so far. And for those asking, I guess it's kind of a kamikaze medic.

But thx for preventing the 500dmg :3
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
November 25 2012 03:10 GMT
#2835
On November 25 2012 12:06 CaveJohnson wrote:
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On November 25 2012 12:04 Toadesstern wrote:
On November 25 2012 12:01 Hopeless1der wrote:
Hey Tooaaaadddd...Can i haz ur heal? I'll give this vote I found. Look!

##Unvote: Oatsmaster
##Vote Toadesstern

I was planning on healing either our frog or syllo so far. And for those asking, I guess it's kind of a kamikaze medic.

But thx for preventing the 500dmg :3


Your role reminded me of my fool role from holy roman just reversed. I honestly expect you to explode if you type out a rhyme

getting 1 vote in every single vote is ridiculous retarded... ^^
Only good part is that it's not fixed dmg but % of your HP you're having right now.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
November 25 2012 03:57 GMT
#2847
On November 25 2012 12:24 Hapahauli wrote:
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On November 25 2012 12:22 Hopeless1der wrote:
On November 25 2012 12:14 Acrofales wrote:
On November 25 2012 12:01 Hopeless1der wrote:
Hey Tooaaaadddd...Can i haz ur heal? I'll give this vote I found. Look!

##Unvote: Oatsmaster
##Vote Toadesstern

You're an idiot. He's lying.

Oh, you're his scumbuddy? Because that's really the only way I see that statement being both an insult and true.


You seem to be forgetting a bunch of things regarding that claim.
1) Toad is scummy as shit.
2) The role isn't necessarily blue - it could be red
3) The role is much more powerful than the other town-alligned roles we've seen so far.

except for the part where I take 500 fucking damage if I don't get a vote on me every cycle...
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
November 25 2012 04:17 GMT
#2852
On November 25 2012 13:09 Acrofales wrote:
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On November 25 2012 11:53 Toadesstern wrote:
oh and obviously asking people yesterday about voting me please (I think I asked chronicler & acro) was as well because I still needed the one vote to dodge the 500dmg.

Oh and I'll run for leader, vote me please :3

So... you took 500 damage D1 then?

nope. someone voted me.
On November 25 2012 13:01 Hapahauli wrote:
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On November 25 2012 12:57 Toadesstern wrote:
On November 25 2012 12:24 Hapahauli wrote:
On November 25 2012 12:22 Hopeless1der wrote:
On November 25 2012 12:14 Acrofales wrote:
On November 25 2012 12:01 Hopeless1der wrote:
Hey Tooaaaadddd...Can i haz ur heal? I'll give this vote I found. Look!

##Unvote: Oatsmaster
##Vote Toadesstern

You're an idiot. He's lying.

Oh, you're his scumbuddy? Because that's really the only way I see that statement being both an insult and true.


You seem to be forgetting a bunch of things regarding that claim.
1) Toad is scummy as shit.
2) The role isn't necessarily blue - it could be red
3) The role is much more powerful than the other town-alligned roles we've seen so far.

except for the part where I take 500 fucking damage if I don't get a vote on me every cycle...


Cool. So that changes things why exactly? Hell I have a hard time you're telling the truth about that ability.

Secondly, you still have yet to explain this:
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On November 25 2012 11:55 Hapahauli wrote:
Just to get this straight Toad - you targeted me with 100 damage despite never mentioning me as a scumread in your filter? Ok buddy.


I'm redistributing HP a little +EV. I'm hitting people who aren't going to be protected above anything else. I even hit myself n1 to get that charge. Probably (?) would not have gotten the charge had I targeted Sandro because he was lynched.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
November 25 2012 04:26 GMT
#2857
On November 25 2012 13:20 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2012 13:17 Toadesstern wrote:
On November 25 2012 13:09 Acrofales wrote:
On November 25 2012 11:53 Toadesstern wrote:
oh and obviously asking people yesterday about voting me please (I think I asked chronicler & acro) was as well because I still needed the one vote to dodge the 500dmg.

Oh and I'll run for leader, vote me please :3

So... you took 500 damage D1 then?

nope. someone voted me.
On November 25 2012 13:01 Hapahauli wrote:
On November 25 2012 12:57 Toadesstern wrote:
On November 25 2012 12:24 Hapahauli wrote:
On November 25 2012 12:22 Hopeless1der wrote:
On November 25 2012 12:14 Acrofales wrote:
On November 25 2012 12:01 Hopeless1der wrote:
Hey Tooaaaadddd...Can i haz ur heal? I'll give this vote I found. Look!

##Unvote: Oatsmaster
##Vote Toadesstern

You're an idiot. He's lying.

Oh, you're his scumbuddy? Because that's really the only way I see that statement being both an insult and true.


You seem to be forgetting a bunch of things regarding that claim.
1) Toad is scummy as shit.
2) The role isn't necessarily blue - it could be red
3) The role is much more powerful than the other town-alligned roles we've seen so far.

except for the part where I take 500 fucking damage if I don't get a vote on me every cycle...


Cool. So that changes things why exactly? Hell I have a hard time you're telling the truth about that ability.

Secondly, you still have yet to explain this:
On November 25 2012 11:55 Hapahauli wrote:
Just to get this straight Toad - you targeted me with 100 damage despite never mentioning me as a scumread in your filter? Ok buddy.


I'm redistributing HP a little +EV. I'm hitting people who aren't going to be protected above anything else. I even hit myself n1 to get that charge. Probably (?) would not have gotten the charge had I targeted Sandro because he was lynched.


Zzzz, I'm tired of your lies. I have a 1-shot role+alignment check. Used it on you last night. You're Queen Zeal


Well no I'm not.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
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