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On November 23 2012 09:45 Clarity_nl wrote:
I wonder what happened (or perhaps, didn't happen) because we succeeded the mission.
At the very least this makes syllo and dieno relatively close to confirmed town, right?
On November 23 2012 09:48 Clarity_nl wrote:
syllo was party leader, dieno claimed frog.
It's possible one of the other two is mafia but couldnt sway the mission to failure, especially with frog (pretty sure dieno said he had a bonus in 600AD)
@Clarity
I don't think that we can say that syllo is a confirmed town yet.
Let's imagine that scum syllo knows that he has a low negative modifier factor for the events. What is preventing him from looking town enough to get elected and then pick up 3 towns in his party. It should be easy enough for scum syllo not to bring any 3P along 
In this way, he can get a lot of town credit ^^
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On November 23 2012 12:11 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2012 12:09 Djodref wrote:On November 23 2012 09:45 Clarity_nl wrote:
I wonder what happened (or perhaps, didn't happen) because we succeeded the mission.
At the very least this makes syllo and dieno relatively close to confirmed town, right? On November 23 2012 09:48 Clarity_nl wrote:
syllo was party leader, dieno claimed frog.
It's possible one of the other two is mafia but couldnt sway the mission to failure, especially with frog (pretty sure dieno said he had a bonus in 600AD) @ClarityI don't think that we can say that syllo is a confirmed town yet. Let's imagine that scum syllo knows that he has a low negative modifier factor for the events. What is preventing him from looking town enough to get elected and then pick up 3 towns in his party. It should be easy enough for scum syllo not to bring any 3P along In this way, he can get a lot of town credit ^^ of that'd be the case mafia Syllo would not have picked Keirathi who claimed to have a low hidden value. If that'd be the case mafia Syllo would have tried to pick either average looking guys or people he considers to have a high value (for whatever reason), but sure as hell he would have dodged Keirathi do stay concealer. He didn't.
@Toad
That's a good point. But would you say that syllo is now confirmed town ?
My point was made to show Clarity that we shouldn't consider syllo as totally confirmed yet. Of course, he is more likely to be town than anything else but not 100% confirmed imho.
I didn't totally think at all the implications of my point.
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On November 23 2012 12:18 Acrofales wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2012 11:55 Djodref wrote:
Taking a look at Dieno latest posts and at his filter, I think that we can be confident that he is indeed Frog.
Is there anyone still doubting his claim ? I would go as far as to say that he is town, and not 3P. You could just ask him. He has claimed, helped town and taken a shitton of damage. 3rd party in that situation seems like a good idea to claim. I know I would if I was a survivor type deal. Dieno: is your wincon to win with town? Anything else special about it? Not sure who speculated about you needing to maybe kill someone?
@ Acro
According to sandro, syllo and him have speculated before the game about the win-con for Frog.
@Dieno: Could you answer these questions please ?
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On November 23 2012 09:04 kitaman27 wrote:Well done I've been targeted with the guessing game. If I don't properly predict the lynch result within the next 24 hours I am hit with 200 hp of damage. I guess this is one of the ways mafia can damage people? :p
@kita
If I understand this correctly, it should be in your benefit to have someone with a strong lead in the vote count before the lynch. I'm expecting you to push people to consolidate quite early 
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On November 23 2012 02:46 CaveJohnson wrote:I blame Acro for this post but apparently my posting is too unique it doesn't work anyway and I feel I need to explain a few things to keep Acro / S+B being murdered because they know me too well. I claim Drazerk the Invoker Chef I prepare dishes far and wide and have learnt techniques lost in time. I have 27 1 time use abilities and 1 multiple use ability but I can't use any if I go on a mission. So far I know 2 of my abilities (THEY ARE SO GOOOOOOOD) and can gain the knowledge of 2 more each cycle (although I can technically use any ability without knowing what it does but I'm not that insane).
My success modifier is 4 which is too low to justify not using either of my 2 abilities I already have.Also I still dislike Marv / DJ and I think any votes for Syllo is a vote wasted. However there is at least 1 third party in the game judging by my flavour (I can handle them myself before you ask). Now to read what I've missed.
I didn't pay a lot of attention to CJ because I thought he was trolling for some reason when he told us to shot the newbies.
I think that the part in bold font in his claim is utter bullshit. Does anybody know his success modifier factor ?
I bet that even mafia players don't know their own...
Anyway, CJ is trolling, obviously making shit up, which indicate that he doesn't care about the town. I understand that he is going to be anti-town and be disruptive anyway if he is indeed drazerk.
I think he is our best lynch for today. I would still like to hear more about BioSC though.
##Unvote
##Vote: CaveJohnson
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On November 23 2012 13:57 syllogism wrote:
Phew, that was pretty stressful
@syllo
god job syllo. I would have picked up Oats and Dieno as well but not Keirathi (Clarity instead of him). Could you tell us more about the choice of Keir for your party ?
Did you take any damage ?
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On November 23 2012 17:33 Oatsmaster wrote:Thanks for the huge post Dien!! This is really been a change from the start in your posting :D I am not afk, but there has been nothing to talk about  . Europeans are just waking up so we should see some stuff soon. 1. What do you think about the damage done to you and marv? Do the people that take damage indicate a certain alignment? 2. About the Cave Johnson roleclaim. I think that it is extremely sloppily done, not a lot of specific stuff.. I think that it should be looked into more closely. I would also like to know what the mafia/3rd party numbers were from previous 25 player games. HP and KP i think are really hard to get with only 1 cycle of information
@Oats
Congrats for the success of the event ! The town read I had on you is now straightened
1. I think that some mafia members are going to lie about the damage they have taken. Giving wrong and unreliable information (we cannot check if they lie or not) is going to create confusion for the town. Keep in mind that town members or third party players are likely to cause some damage as well.
2. About CJ claim, what do you think about him claiming his specific success modifier factor and adding the fact that it is low ?
I don't think that any comparison with previous games is going to be relevant because this game is heavily themed
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On November 23 2012 18:47 goodkarma wrote:
I am entirely opposed to troll(CaveJohnson) hunting at present. I am not as confident as some seem to be that, based off his current anti-town dialogue, he has demonstrated he in fact is mafia.
On the other hand, if Sandroba's meta (as stated by others here) is to be believed, he is a clear choice as a lynching candidate for today. He has gone into hardcore lurker mode, which normally is something I wouldn't consider a tell. However, as a player of his reputation that plays so well as town to disappear as he has, I deem voting to lynch him appropriate. I would like to hear what he has to say to explain his current complete lack of caring since very early this game. And until he does:
##Vote: Sandroba
@goodkarma
I admit that my vote on CJ is more a result of troll-hunting that scum-hunting. Today is going to be a scum-hunting day but I would say that a CJ lynch is the best lynch right now.
I don't want you to trust other players on sandroba's meta: you are voting him, so you need to show your own personal findings which motivated your vote. The Looney Game that I have already mentioned is a good example of a town sandroba going AWOL.
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On November 23 2012 19:15 Oatsmaster wrote:
The reason why my vote is on Sandro now is that Syllo gave a scum read on him AND he is not responding to that.
Something I just thought of, if Sandro had been leader and failed, he couldve just said that his reads were wrong because his party consists of new players with little to no pre game experience.
@Oats
The problem here is that you are sheeping syllo, voting for an inactive player and then go into useless speculation.
Who would you like to lynch if sandro and CJ were already dead ?
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On November 23 2012 09:11 TheChronicler wrote:
I would be really interested in seeing how sand flips at this point. He'd be really useful as a reference for some people in this thread. I won't put my vote on him until I make a case, though.
It's turkey day and I just checked in to see the result of the event. I'll be home in about eight hours.
@TheChronicler
Could you please elaborate on the useful "reference" you would get with a sandroba flip ?
Are you expecting him to flip scum ? If so, I would like to see your case about him
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On November 23 2012 19:56 Acrofales wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2012 19:07 Djodref wrote:On November 23 2012 18:47 goodkarma wrote:
I am entirely opposed to troll(CaveJohnson) hunting at present. I am not as confident as some seem to be that, based off his current anti-town dialogue, he has demonstrated he in fact is mafia.
On the other hand, if Sandroba's meta (as stated by others here) is to be believed, he is a clear choice as a lynching candidate for today. He has gone into hardcore lurker mode, which normally is something I wouldn't consider a tell. However, as a player of his reputation that plays so well as town to disappear as he has, I deem voting to lynch him appropriate. I would like to hear what he has to say to explain his current complete lack of caring since very early this game. And until he does:
##Vote: Sandroba @goodkarmaI admit that my vote on CJ is more a result of troll-hunting that scum-hunting. Today is going to be a scum-hunting day but I would say that a CJ lynch is the best lynch right now. I don't want you to trust other players on sandroba's meta: you are voting him, so you need to show your own personal findings which motivated your vote. The Looney Game that I have already mentioned is a good example of a town sandroba going AWOL. I am confused and guess I will have to read that Looney Game. I presume this means you disagree with Hopeless1der's assessment of Sandroba in that game, or did that come later? Show nested quote +On November 22 2012 00:16 Hopeless1der wrote:
My vote is probably going to sandroba. Second hand knowledge from Looney mafia suggests that he'll have everyone in the game crapping their pants by this time tomorrow.
If I by some miracle were voted leader, I'd pick my party members based on apparent knowledge of chrono trigger garnered from the pregame. My ability to make confident day 1 reads is abysmal. I'll still do it, just don't expect me to be right...like ever.
@Acro
I was scum in this game and you can see in our scumQT that HiroPro and OriginalName were afraid of sandro. He went AWOL so I've tried to push a sandro mislynch with some other town players but Hiro didn't want to take this risk. Sandro came back just before getting mislynched and one of our partner eventually got lynched. It was also a themed game
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On November 23 2012 20:23 Acrofales wrote:People I really want to hear from before I make any kind of decision on whom to vote for: BioSCShow nested quote +On November 23 2012 04:12 BioSC wrote:
post from phone, sorry for not being active, visiting with family today (thanksgiving). Assuming i live through tonight, i will be more active during the weekend. keeping up with the thread as best i can, still leaning syllo over sand atm. You better start now. Remember Bastard 2 where I shot you for being a scummy lurker? I am feeling that same feeling. If you're town, prove it. SandrobaIf you're town, I presume you know that your behaviour is looking incredibly suspect. Start playing the game for real. If you just keep right on lurking, I will absolutely want to lynch you. DrazerkHave not yet made up my mind about you. I am not feeling the scum Drazerk vibe, but I didn't in Holy Roman either. What I do know is that you have not even tried to be helpful this game, while in Bastard 2 that was what kept me from going after you as rabidly as I wanted. So... lets have it. Less mindless waffle and tell us who you want to lynch today and why. Also, given your stance on noobs, what do you want to do with Dieno, now that he has proven to be useful, and claimed 3rd party?
@Acro
Dieno didn't claim 3rd party in my opinion. The "I am a frog so I'm not town" thing was a joke.
@Dieno: Am I right ?
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On November 23 2012 20:26 Acrofales wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2012 20:24 Djodref wrote:On November 23 2012 19:56 Acrofales wrote:On November 23 2012 19:07 Djodref wrote:On November 23 2012 18:47 goodkarma wrote:
I am entirely opposed to troll(CaveJohnson) hunting at present. I am not as confident as some seem to be that, based off his current anti-town dialogue, he has demonstrated he in fact is mafia.
On the other hand, if Sandroba's meta (as stated by others here) is to be believed, he is a clear choice as a lynching candidate for today. He has gone into hardcore lurker mode, which normally is something I wouldn't consider a tell. However, as a player of his reputation that plays so well as town to disappear as he has, I deem voting to lynch him appropriate. I would like to hear what he has to say to explain his current complete lack of caring since very early this game. And until he does:
##Vote: Sandroba @goodkarmaI admit that my vote on CJ is more a result of troll-hunting that scum-hunting. Today is going to be a scum-hunting day but I would say that a CJ lynch is the best lynch right now. I don't want you to trust other players on sandroba's meta: you are voting him, so you need to show your own personal findings which motivated your vote. The Looney Game that I have already mentioned is a good example of a town sandroba going AWOL. I am confused and guess I will have to read that Looney Game. I presume this means you disagree with Hopeless1der's assessment of Sandroba in that game, or did that come later? On November 22 2012 00:16 Hopeless1der wrote:
My vote is probably going to sandroba. Second hand knowledge from Looney mafia suggests that he'll have everyone in the game crapping their pants by this time tomorrow.
If I by some miracle were voted leader, I'd pick my party members based on apparent knowledge of chrono trigger garnered from the pregame. My ability to make confident day 1 reads is abysmal. I'll still do it, just don't expect me to be right...like ever. @AcroI was scum in this game and you can see in our scumQT that HiroPro and OriginalName were afraid of sandro. He went AWOL so I've tried to push a sandro mislynch with some other town players but Hiro didn't want to take this risk. Sandro came back just before getting mislynched and one of our partner eventually got lynched. It was also a themed game Ah, so you expect Hopeless simply had his assessment of Sandro wrong: it wasn't his playstyle that inspired fear in scum, but his mere presence. That does make some sense.
You understand it perfectly. You can find some insight of it in our scumQT
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TheChronicler
What is he trying to accomplish exactly ?
Part I --- His Plan
On November 21 2012 12:25 TheChronicler wrote:
*snip*
I'd like to be the party leader. I'm an unknown (hopefully) and no one will make stupid bullshit meta reads on the leader that would probably be worse than a coin flip. That's pretty much the only reason I want to lead. I don't even want to pick who will be the three on my team, which takes me to the next part of my pitch, and something I hope whoever is leader uses.
If I'm leader I don't want to choose the three people with me. I want to choose three people to choose three people who will be on the team. They can choose themselves if they'd like. Why do this? Because it gets us more information. If I'm not chosen leader I'd like the person who IS chosen to implement this system.
We still get information from who the leader chooses, AND we get information based upon who the three chosen people choose.
On November 21 2012 12:41 TheChronicler wrote:
*snip*
I don't want to be as unaccountable as possible. If you think it's a better idea then why not have it go leader chooses three > three choose 3 others, can't choose themselves. Leader will want to choose people who he has certain reads on, since he will want the event to succeed, and those three will want to choose someone they have a certain read on. We get information from all the choices, and avoid the problem where everyone will just choose themselves.
He wants to get elected to prevent the election of a better known player whose alignment could be difficult to assess.
His campaign is mainly based around his plan. I don't want to discuss if his plan is good or not. I want to discuss the purpose of his plan
His plan doesn't help us to make sure that the event is going to succeed.
His plan doesn't help us to catch scum (maybe it does, but I doubt it and TheChronicler failed to explain it to us in this case)
His plan helps us to get information. The promised information is green and in bold font but he doesn't explain how this beautiful information is going to help the town.
My conclusion is that he didn't really think through his plan in advance and made a plan for the sake of making a plan. The motivation for scum is to look townie. You can see here that he didn't really believe in his election.
On November 21 2012 12:56 TheChronicler wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2012 12:49 marvellosity wrote:
then we make sure we don't elect a scum person.
can't be that hard to make just one or two very likely town reads, no? ^^ I figured I'd add in a system that got us as much information as possible. I never expected to be elected since I'm on a smurf, but I really wanted my idea to be used because I think there's a good enough chance we don't get a townie elected (I've lynched enough townies d1 not to be overly confident in my d1 reads)
You can see here that his obsession with information is faked because he goes after iamperfection when he gave a town read on Dieno.
On November 21 2012 14:12 TheChronicler wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2012 13:55 iamperfection wrote:On November 21 2012 13:54 TheChronicler wrote:On November 21 2012 13:30 Oatsmaster wrote:
Did not see the 'when'
sorry.
Also about the Keir thing with marv.
He said that if he did think marv was scum he wouldnt vote him
Then he said that he would have to be sure that marv was town to vote him.
They are the same in my opinion, Keir has the confidence that he will either have a town or scum read on marv by the end of the day, not a null read I think you're reading that wrong. Think marv is town = will vote Thinks marv is scum = will not vote Unsure of marv = will not vote You're not considering the possibility of #3 in your reasoning. You're saying Keir will have the confidence, but he hasn't said that at all. Following quote sums it up. On November 21 2012 13:22 Keirathi wrote:On November 21 2012 13:17 Hapahauli wrote:@ KeiYou're right, he is capable of pulling off big plays as scum, even day 1. But it's not like I'm giving him a town read already, nor do I plan to vote him until I do. I'm paranoid as fuck when it comes to him, but again, I'm much more confident in my ability to read him than I am any of the other vets, purely because I am extremely familiar with how marv thinks and acts. Err... but you said... On November 21 2012 12:14 Keirathi wrote:
--Quote Pyramid Omitted--
I said I would vote marv, barring a scummy vibe from him. And, yes, I feel I have a decent grasp of when marv is acting scummy. The key is, though, that I thoroughly trust marv's ability to make town reads. In the event that he is scum, though, even a scum marv can't afford to pick other scum without some damn good reasoning that they are town, which I believe could be seen through. Do explain good sir. What is there to explain? Both of those things you bolded say the exact same thing :o ------------------------------------------ On November 21 2012 13:32 iamperfection wrote:
also by the way i have a town read on Dienosore no nooby scum gonna come in here like that. Is there a reason everyone feels the need to shout their town reads this game? ------------------------------------------- On November 21 2012 13:36 Hopeless1der wrote:Greetings all. You'll notice that we're currently in 600 AD Guardia. You're also playing a themed game hosted by none other than Greymist. Please keep that in mind. (Hi Mementoss, you're cool too). Basic vote mechanics for this game seem to boil down to -identify town -vote town to lead the party -Profit -Kill Mafia/Lavos -More Profit
What are people's thoughts on claiming that their character belongs to the 600 AD era and selecting the leader based on that. (YOU ONLY CLAIM "600 AD") Possibly selecting the entire party from within the era, assuming enough of a pool emerges. I linked Chronopedia above in case anyone feels the need to check it out. ~17ish native characters from 600 AD. I think our hidden numbers are influenced by the current era, and events can have varying degrees of success or failure depending on which specific players (not just town or scum) are in the party. Come play the setup speculation game with me please! How about we don't speculate on setup. What is speculating going to do? It's just an opportunity for scum to mislead us when they shouldn't have that opportunity. is it scummy to say what i think? It's anti-town to give scum information they can use. You just told scum your town read (assuming you're town). Now scum will value killing your town read higher than they would have. Way to go.
WTF ? If we apply his plan, people are not supposed to choose other people according to their town reads ?! It's true that he didn't even say on what criteria you should choose people according to his plan but I guess we can safely assume it was based on town reads. But giving town reads is now anti-town ?
I've showed that TheChronicler has made a "fake" plan to look like he is contributing and a concerned town player. He didn't think it through but the most important point is that he doesn't follow the logic of his plan, which shows that he doesn't really believe in it
Part II --- His vote on syllo
TheChronicler voting syllo is totally incoherent with his story. In his campaign post, he proposes himself as an "unknown" player to counter the campaigns of the "known" players. Anyway, this is minor.
Here TheChronicler states what kind of player he doesn't want for the town
On November 21 2012 12:48 TheChronicler wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2012 12:47 marvellosity wrote:
TheChronicler, take a moment, sip a glass of wine, and ponder why every single person who has read your idea has thought it terrible.
It's either because you're a genius, transcended on a plane above any of us mere mortals, or your idea is bad. Alright, it's probably just bad. I just wanted to spread it out b/c I don't want to elect a scum person and have them controlling everything.
I'm fine with this. I wouldn't expect him to vote syllo because of all his previous information rant, but if he does, if would expect him to seriously assess syllo alignment.
On November 22 2012 03:42 TheChronicler wrote:
I'm going to place my vote on syllo. Cave seems to be pushing syllo as someone who can't be elected because he's "taken himself out" when he's a very viable candidate. I'm driving to California, and won't be back in the thread for a good 12 hours. I will try to keep up with the thread on my phone, though. Just don't expect your questions to be answered until I get to my parents' place tonight.
On November 23 2012 03:50 TheChronicler wrote:
I don't think we should be going for a swap with 4 hours left. I'm happy with my vote on syllo.
Wow, unexpected. Here I suspect TheChronicler to blend him by blindy voting for syllo.
Part III --- Blending in
You can find a lot of useless little remarks in TheChronicler filter. He doesn't interact by himself with the players with great town potential. Here are some remarks addressed to Oats and Dieno which function is only to add some lenght to his filter.
On November 21 2012 12:25 TheChronicler wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2012 11:59 Oatsmaster wrote:
random fluff post,
Lotta Brazilians :O Useless. Don't post like this. Show nested quote +On November 21 2012 12:14 Clarity_nl wrote:
I do not have any kind of read on anyone yet. He would be a good choice because if he's scum it'll show comparatively to his town play. Who is he? I'm assuming Hapa. ---------------------------------------------- *snip*
Enters the thread with remarks for Oats and Clarity... Nitpicking in the new players filter, kinda lame...
On November 21 2012 14:12 TheChronicler wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2012 13:55 iamperfection wrote:On November 21 2012 13:54 TheChronicler wrote:On November 21 2012 13:30 Oatsmaster wrote:
Did not see the 'when'
sorry.
Also about the Keir thing with marv.
He said that if he did think marv was scum he wouldnt vote him
Then he said that he would have to be sure that marv was town to vote him.
They are the same in my opinion, Keir has the confidence that he will either have a town or scum read on marv by the end of the day, not a null read I think you're reading that wrong. Think marv is town = will vote Thinks marv is scum = will not vote Unsure of marv = will not vote You're not considering the possibility of #3 in your reasoning. You're saying Keir will have the confidence, but he hasn't said that at all. Following quote sums it up. On November 21 2012 13:22 Keirathi wrote:On November 21 2012 13:17 Hapahauli wrote:@ KeiYou're right, he is capable of pulling off big plays as scum, even day 1. But it's not like I'm giving him a town read already, nor do I plan to vote him until I do. I'm paranoid as fuck when it comes to him, but again, I'm much more confident in my ability to read him than I am any of the other vets, purely because I am extremely familiar with how marv thinks and acts. Err... but you said... On November 21 2012 12:14 Keirathi wrote:
--Quote Pyramid Omitted--
I said I would vote marv, barring a scummy vibe from him. And, yes, I feel I have a decent grasp of when marv is acting scummy. The key is, though, that I thoroughly trust marv's ability to make town reads. In the event that he is scum, though, even a scum marv can't afford to pick other scum without some damn good reasoning that they are town, which I believe could be seen through. Do explain good sir. What is there to explain? Both of those things you bolded say the exact same thing :o ------------------------------------------ On November 21 2012 13:32 iamperfection wrote:
also by the way i have a town read on Dienosore no nooby scum gonna come in here like that. Is there a reason everyone feels the need to shout their town reads this game? ------------------------------------------- On November 21 2012 13:36 Hopeless1der wrote:Greetings all. You'll notice that we're currently in 600 AD Guardia. You're also playing a themed game hosted by none other than Greymist. Please keep that in mind. (Hi Mementoss, you're cool too). Basic vote mechanics for this game seem to boil down to -identify town -vote town to lead the party -Profit -Kill Mafia/Lavos -More Profit
What are people's thoughts on claiming that their character belongs to the 600 AD era and selecting the leader based on that. (YOU ONLY CLAIM "600 AD") Possibly selecting the entire party from within the era, assuming enough of a pool emerges. I linked Chronopedia above in case anyone feels the need to check it out. ~17ish native characters from 600 AD. I think our hidden numbers are influenced by the current era, and events can have varying degrees of success or failure depending on which specific players (not just town or scum) are in the party. Come play the setup speculation game with me please! How about we don't speculate on setup. What is speculating going to do? It's just an opportunity for scum to mislead us when they shouldn't have that opportunity. is it scummy to say what i think? It's anti-town to give scum information they can use. You just told scum your town read (assuming you're town). Now scum will value killing your town read higher than they would have. Way to go.
This one is addressed to iamp, but I think it is an interesting one. He is pushing people to retain information...
On November 21 2012 14:13 TheChronicler wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2012 14:05 Dienosore wrote:
I think it's possible to remain credible and maintain a good sense of playfulness at the same time If only you were doing something to lend yourself credibility other than posting nothing.
Nice use of the red and bold font for Dieno Here he is framing the player who turns out to be what we have the closest to be confirmed town imho.
On November 23 2012 09:13 TheChronicler wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2012 09:08 Toadesstern wrote:
Good job. I'm wondering a bit why Deinosaur but it worked out fine.
Lynching Sandroba should be the way to go for today. Maybe Marv. Lol, nice soft defense.
Nit-picking again ^^
Conclusion
There are good chances for TheChronicler to be scum
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I've just realized that I forgot to change my vote. Anyway, here are the players I would like to be lynch candidates for today so far.- BioSC, for lurking while he should be excited to participate in this game ("Lynch a Lurker Policy")
- CaveJohnson, for his obvious fakeclaim and general trolly behavior ("Lynch all Liars", "Lynch Liabilities" policies)
- TheChronicler, who is suspect to be a scum
I would rather lynch BioSC than sandroba following the "Lynch a Lurker" policy because sandroba has contributed in a useful way with his sound plan to compose his party. I do not want to sheep syllo on a scum sandroba and I don't personally see the difference between this game and the Looney game for the moment.
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EBWOP:##Unvote
##Vote: TheChronicler
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On November 23 2012 21:33 Acrofales wrote:
Okay. Reading through Hapa's filter in a more calm and collected time kinda put my suspicions to rest. I see nothing there that screams scum.
The aggression at Keirathi felt forced, but that is about it. He seems open and completely willing to share his thoughts at all times. Also, his reason for running against Syllo follows in a clean, coherent line from his earlier posts.
I haven't read a scum game by him, and by reputation I know he can be crafty, however I see no reason to think that that is actually the case at the moment.
Next up: GoodKarma.
@Acro
I'm glad that you came to this conclusion wrt Hapa. He seems genuine and I guess that he has gradually understood the implications of the setup regarding how we have to approach the election on a party leader. I understand and I respect his position against syllo's plan and I doubt that he faked his late candidature to promote his ideas. On top of that, I agreed with his ticket. I have a slight town read on Hapa for the moment.
My suspicions at your regard were based on your trust on my candidature when you didn't show a great interest in my plan. You didn't really address them but I'm glad that you voted syllo at the end. You look like you really want to figure out this game for the moment and you are active and contributing in a constructive way. So I would say that you are town if I had to decide right now.
I'm curious to hear your feedback on goodkarma.
What do you think of TheChronicler ?
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On November 23 2012 21:59 Oatsmaster wrote:
I dont think that his claim is a fake claim. However he 'knows' his hidden number value which is an all out lie. I wonder what else he is lying about...
Sandro, my vote is on you at the moment because you have not interacted with the thread after your first few posts.
Do you think that you will read scum wrongly on Syllo?
IRL reasons are not really applicable at this point, if you knew that you werent free to play, you shouldnt have signed up.. Or you should do something other than complaining about it.
@Oats
Are you familiar with the Chrono Trigger Universe ? Why would a character named "The Chef" be granted with 27(!!!!) one-time abilities and another multiple-use ability ?
I don't believe a single instant that he could use his abilities without knowing them. If he tells the truth, he knows right now 4 of his one-time per game and 2 of them are already "SOOO GOOOD". How could the host give so much power in the hands of a single player ?
Nothing of this makes any sense... This claim is obviously fake, which doesn't make CaveJohnson automatically mafia, but still, I think he deserves to be lynched or killed for this. I'll switch back to him if I'm not satisfied with the final lynch candidate for today.
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On November 23 2012 22:23 marvellosity wrote:
Yeah, TheChronicler's bad plan still seems more likely it would have come from a townie to me.
@marv
What do you make on his stances on "information" ?
He promotes a plan to produce more information (that was the main goal of his plan)
He doesn't want iamp to publicly state his town read on Dieno
He votes syllo which plan wasn't really "information producing"-like at first glance
This made me think that he didn't really think about his first plan, didn't really believe in it, so I took it as a fake plan.
@TheChronicler: Are you a player named ghost rider ? What is your global experience on playing mafia on forums ?
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On November 23 2012 22:39 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2012 22:32 Djodref wrote:On November 23 2012 22:23 marvellosity wrote:
Yeah, TheChronicler's bad plan still seems more likely it would have come from a townie to me. @marvWhat do you make on his stances on "information" ? He promotes a plan to produce more information (that was the main goal of his plan) He doesn't want iamp to publicly state his town read on Dieno He votes syllo which plan wasn't really "information producing"-like at first glance This made me think that he didn't really think about his first plan, didn't really believe in it, so I took it as a fake plan. @TheChronicler: Are you a player named ghost rider ? What is your global experience on playing mafia on forums ? I think at the time he was a well meaning but wrong townie. He pushed his idea for quite a while but eventually backed down from it when I framed it to him in a certain way. I don't really understand what he was trying to achieve as scum. He is a name no-one recognises, and if he knew how things were likely to go down or had a scumteam that did, then the plan is obviously bad, because he was never going to be listened to. I take your point that it could be "contributing to look townie", but why like that? It was so weird. I mean, maybe it's a massive double bluff and he's a super strong player playing the naive card or whatever, but I don't think so right now. I prefer the option of concerned but misguided townie who hasn't continued to shit up the thread with it for too long.
@marv
I'll see how he addresses my case then. As scum, I like to have bad ideas and to push them a lot. I don't really care if people tell me that's bad and that I should stop to shit up the thread with it and so on
What do you think about his vote on syllo ? I didn't like the lack of explanations for it.
Regarding GK, I found that his thought process was easy to follow and I like how his campaign posts were structured.
His ticket for his party was reasonable and he withdraw his candidature at a good timing. I have a town read on him so far.
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