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Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
November 22 2012 15:04 GMT
#1244
On November 23 2012 00:03 marvellosity wrote:
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On November 23 2012 00:01 Toadesstern wrote:
goodkarma wasn't even "running" when I did my post earlier. Yeah could have voted him as well but Kita was posting around that time.


This is pretty much a supremely weak reason to vote for someone and you know it.

yeah I do. Are you guys not reading?
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
November 22 2012 15:12 GMT
#1251
On November 23 2012 00:11 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2012 00:03 Toadesstern wrote:
On November 23 2012 00:00 Acrofales wrote:
On November 22 2012 23:56 Toadesstern wrote:
@both:
Yeah kind of. I really think that the most likely scenario is that either Sandro or Syllo is mafia. And I am trying to figure things out, hence the Kita vote :p

What if Kita is the actual scum, but they're waiting for some gullible town, so their bandwagon seems less suspect when it utterly fails the first event?

What if you and Kita are scum together and your feigned naiveté is a calculated ploy?

Why Kita, and not GK? Hell, why not Dieno? If your entire reason for voting is that he has no bandwagon behind him, Dieno seems by far the best choice.

What is your reason for voting for KITA? And not your reason for voting against Sandro and Syllo, which is a different question.

dude I just answered that with the post you quoted...
Well not the 2nd question because that's obviously bullshit but everything else.

Okay, let me rephrase:

Your ONLY reason for thinking Kita is town is because you think one of Sandro/Syllo is scum. You are therefore blindly following him, implying you think he is not only town, but his judgement is good (and you therefore think Prom, Dieno and I are town as well).

Is this a correct assessment of your recent thought process?

nope
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
November 22 2012 15:20 GMT
#1259
On November 23 2012 00:13 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2012 00:12 Toadesstern wrote:
On November 23 2012 00:11 Acrofales wrote:
On November 23 2012 00:03 Toadesstern wrote:
On November 23 2012 00:00 Acrofales wrote:
On November 22 2012 23:56 Toadesstern wrote:
@both:
Yeah kind of. I really think that the most likely scenario is that either Sandro or Syllo is mafia. And I am trying to figure things out, hence the Kita vote :p

What if Kita is the actual scum, but they're waiting for some gullible town, so their bandwagon seems less suspect when it utterly fails the first event?

What if you and Kita are scum together and your feigned naiveté is a calculated ploy?

Why Kita, and not GK? Hell, why not Dieno? If your entire reason for voting is that he has no bandwagon behind him, Dieno seems by far the best choice.

What is your reason for voting for KITA? And not your reason for voting against Sandro and Syllo, which is a different question.

dude I just answered that with the post you quoted...
Well not the 2nd question because that's obviously bullshit but everything else.

Okay, let me rephrase:

Your ONLY reason for thinking Kita is town is because you think one of Sandro/Syllo is scum. You are therefore blindly following him, implying you think he is not only town, but his judgement is good (and you therefore think Prom, Dieno and I are town as well).

Is this a correct assessment of your recent thought process?

nope


I would like to know why you are seeking to make yourself irrelevant in this town. What is your motivation for making obscure posts without reasoning, and therefore leading town to distrust or ignore what you say?

Why do you want this, Toad?

I still need to find the guy I want to vote for.

Syllo's most recent post was decent and so was Acros.
Acro's apparently a bit on the slow side but that's fine.
Risk is asking the wrong questions and you are suprisingly suprised about something you know very well and you should definitely not need to ask the questions you did. I would have expected you to just tell me to shut up and stop it without asking why I'm doing it.

That begs the question: why do you feel the need to emphasize on something like that when you shouldn't have to?
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
November 22 2012 15:30 GMT
#1262
On November 23 2012 00:23 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2012 00:20 Toadesstern wrote:
On November 23 2012 00:13 marvellosity wrote:
On November 23 2012 00:12 Toadesstern wrote:
On November 23 2012 00:11 Acrofales wrote:
On November 23 2012 00:03 Toadesstern wrote:
On November 23 2012 00:00 Acrofales wrote:
On November 22 2012 23:56 Toadesstern wrote:
@both:
Yeah kind of. I really think that the most likely scenario is that either Sandro or Syllo is mafia. And I am trying to figure things out, hence the Kita vote :p

What if Kita is the actual scum, but they're waiting for some gullible town, so their bandwagon seems less suspect when it utterly fails the first event?

What if you and Kita are scum together and your feigned naiveté is a calculated ploy?

Why Kita, and not GK? Hell, why not Dieno? If your entire reason for voting is that he has no bandwagon behind him, Dieno seems by far the best choice.

What is your reason for voting for KITA? And not your reason for voting against Sandro and Syllo, which is a different question.

dude I just answered that with the post you quoted...
Well not the 2nd question because that's obviously bullshit but everything else.

Okay, let me rephrase:

Your ONLY reason for thinking Kita is town is because you think one of Sandro/Syllo is scum. You are therefore blindly following him, implying you think he is not only town, but his judgement is good (and you therefore think Prom, Dieno and I are town as well).

Is this a correct assessment of your recent thought process?

nope


I would like to know why you are seeking to make yourself irrelevant in this town. What is your motivation for making obscure posts without reasoning, and therefore leading town to distrust or ignore what you say?

Why do you want this, Toad?

I still need to find the guy I want to vote for.

Syllo's most recent post was decent and so was Acros.
Acro's apparently a bit on the slow side but that's fine.
Risk is asking the wrong questions and you are suprisingly suprised about something you know very well and you should definitely not need to ask the questions you did. I would have expected you to just tell me to shut up and stop it without asking why I'm doing it.

That begs the question: why do you feel the need to emphasize on something like that when you shouldn't have to?


Why would you expect this at all? The Toad I know for either alignment doesn't seek to marginalise himself like you seem to want to be doing.

If you still need to find a guy you want to vote for, why have you made a placeholder vote? In your first post of the game you said you would only be voting for someone you definitely had a townread on.

Your play definitely needs emphasizing because it is out of character for you and it is quite important to know why.

Okay marv. How many games did we play together? Tell me just one game in which I don't do things with lacking reasoning to get some reactions.
I mean I wouldn't put it that way:
Why would you expect this at all? The Toad I know for either alignment doesn't seek to marginalise himself like you seem to want to be doing.
because that's hardly the intention but I'm doing that literally every single game.
Hence my suprise about why you're so puzzled of all people.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
November 22 2012 15:48 GMT
#1274
On November 23 2012 00:36 risk.nuke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2012 00:20 Toadesstern wrote:
On November 23 2012 00:13 marvellosity wrote:
On November 23 2012 00:12 Toadesstern wrote:
On November 23 2012 00:11 Acrofales wrote:
On November 23 2012 00:03 Toadesstern wrote:
On November 23 2012 00:00 Acrofales wrote:
On November 22 2012 23:56 Toadesstern wrote:
@both:
Yeah kind of. I really think that the most likely scenario is that either Sandro or Syllo is mafia. And I am trying to figure things out, hence the Kita vote :p

What if Kita is the actual scum, but they're waiting for some gullible town, so their bandwagon seems less suspect when it utterly fails the first event?

What if you and Kita are scum together and your feigned naiveté is a calculated ploy?

Why Kita, and not GK? Hell, why not Dieno? If your entire reason for voting is that he has no bandwagon behind him, Dieno seems by far the best choice.

What is your reason for voting for KITA? And not your reason for voting against Sandro and Syllo, which is a different question.

dude I just answered that with the post you quoted...
Well not the 2nd question because that's obviously bullshit but everything else.

Okay, let me rephrase:

Your ONLY reason for thinking Kita is town is because you think one of Sandro/Syllo is scum. You are therefore blindly following him, implying you think he is not only town, but his judgement is good (and you therefore think Prom, Dieno and I are town as well).

Is this a correct assessment of your recent thought process?

nope


I would like to know why you are seeking to make yourself irrelevant in this town. What is your motivation for making obscure posts without reasoning, and therefore leading town to distrust or ignore what you say?

Why do you want this, Toad?

I still need to find the guy I want to vote for.

Syllo's most recent post was decent and so was Acros.
Acro's apparently a bit on the slow side but that's fine.
Risk is asking the wrong questions and you are suprisingly suprised about something you know very well and you should definitely not need to ask the questions you did. I would have expected you to just tell me to shut up and stop it without asking why I'm doing it.

That begs the question: why do you feel the need to emphasize on something like that when you shouldn't have to?

what do you mean I'm asking the wrong question? And what questions are you referring to? What the hell are you talking about?

The fact that you asked about Goodkarma rather than why I'm voting Kita without reasoning. I would have thought the 2nd one should be the more interesting part.
On November 23 2012 00:35 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2012 00:30 Toadesstern wrote:
On November 23 2012 00:23 marvellosity wrote:
On November 23 2012 00:20 Toadesstern wrote:
On November 23 2012 00:13 marvellosity wrote:
On November 23 2012 00:12 Toadesstern wrote:
On November 23 2012 00:11 Acrofales wrote:
On November 23 2012 00:03 Toadesstern wrote:
On November 23 2012 00:00 Acrofales wrote:
On November 22 2012 23:56 Toadesstern wrote:
@both:
Yeah kind of. I really think that the most likely scenario is that either Sandro or Syllo is mafia. And I am trying to figure things out, hence the Kita vote :p

What if Kita is the actual scum, but they're waiting for some gullible town, so their bandwagon seems less suspect when it utterly fails the first event?

What if you and Kita are scum together and your feigned naiveté is a calculated ploy?

Why Kita, and not GK? Hell, why not Dieno? If your entire reason for voting is that he has no bandwagon behind him, Dieno seems by far the best choice.

What is your reason for voting for KITA? And not your reason for voting against Sandro and Syllo, which is a different question.

dude I just answered that with the post you quoted...
Well not the 2nd question because that's obviously bullshit but everything else.

Okay, let me rephrase:

Your ONLY reason for thinking Kita is town is because you think one of Sandro/Syllo is scum. You are therefore blindly following him, implying you think he is not only town, but his judgement is good (and you therefore think Prom, Dieno and I are town as well).

Is this a correct assessment of your recent thought process?

nope


I would like to know why you are seeking to make yourself irrelevant in this town. What is your motivation for making obscure posts without reasoning, and therefore leading town to distrust or ignore what you say?

Why do you want this, Toad?

I still need to find the guy I want to vote for.

Syllo's most recent post was decent and so was Acros.
Acro's apparently a bit on the slow side but that's fine.
Risk is asking the wrong questions and you are suprisingly suprised about something you know very well and you should definitely not need to ask the questions you did. I would have expected you to just tell me to shut up and stop it without asking why I'm doing it.

That begs the question: why do you feel the need to emphasize on something like that when you shouldn't have to?


Why would you expect this at all? The Toad I know for either alignment doesn't seek to marginalise himself like you seem to want to be doing.

If you still need to find a guy you want to vote for, why have you made a placeholder vote? In your first post of the game you said you would only be voting for someone you definitely had a townread on.

Your play definitely needs emphasizing because it is out of character for you and it is quite important to know why.

Okay marv. How many games did we play together? Tell me just one game in which I don't do things with lacking reasoning to get some reactions.
I mean I wouldn't put it that way:
Why would you expect this at all? The Toad I know for either alignment doesn't seek to marginalise himself like you seem to want to be doing.
because that's hardly the intention but I'm doing that literally every single game.
Hence my suprise about why you're so puzzled of all people.


Perhaps I don't remember your play too well, then. Sure you do illogical things, and half the time I don't understand what your posts are saying, but usually they are part of some big show. I don't think I'm wrong to think this. There's a lack of HypnoToad so far, don't you think?

For all I know what you're criticising is "HypnoToad". Remember the game I was the phone booth mason in which you were mafia? I'd say that game was a characteristic "screw this I'm board, let's HypnoToad"-game to the extreme. I'm not planning on doing that again but that's what "HypnoToad" is about. Yeah there was no big fireworks this time around but it's still early in the game, isn't it? So I'm really having troubles with your judgement here.
You're telling me there was little HypnoToad in this game so far and yet you're criticising me right now? That just not making sense and again, I feel like you should know better of all the people.
On November 23 2012 00:33 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2012 00:30 Toadesstern wrote:
On November 23 2012 00:23 marvellosity wrote:
On November 23 2012 00:20 Toadesstern wrote:
On November 23 2012 00:13 marvellosity wrote:
On November 23 2012 00:12 Toadesstern wrote:
On November 23 2012 00:11 Acrofales wrote:
On November 23 2012 00:03 Toadesstern wrote:
On November 23 2012 00:00 Acrofales wrote:
On November 22 2012 23:56 Toadesstern wrote:
@both:
Yeah kind of. I really think that the most likely scenario is that either Sandro or Syllo is mafia. And I am trying to figure things out, hence the Kita vote :p

What if Kita is the actual scum, but they're waiting for some gullible town, so their bandwagon seems less suspect when it utterly fails the first event?

What if you and Kita are scum together and your feigned naiveté is a calculated ploy?

Why Kita, and not GK? Hell, why not Dieno? If your entire reason for voting is that he has no bandwagon behind him, Dieno seems by far the best choice.

What is your reason for voting for KITA? And not your reason for voting against Sandro and Syllo, which is a different question.

dude I just answered that with the post you quoted...
Well not the 2nd question because that's obviously bullshit but everything else.

Okay, let me rephrase:

Your ONLY reason for thinking Kita is town is because you think one of Sandro/Syllo is scum. You are therefore blindly following him, implying you think he is not only town, but his judgement is good (and you therefore think Prom, Dieno and I are town as well).

Is this a correct assessment of your recent thought process?

nope


I would like to know why you are seeking to make yourself irrelevant in this town. What is your motivation for making obscure posts without reasoning, and therefore leading town to distrust or ignore what you say?

Why do you want this, Toad?

I still need to find the guy I want to vote for.

Syllo's most recent post was decent and so was Acros.
Acro's apparently a bit on the slow side but that's fine.
Risk is asking the wrong questions and you are suprisingly suprised about something you know very well and you should definitely not need to ask the questions you did. I would have expected you to just tell me to shut up and stop it without asking why I'm doing it.

That begs the question: why do you feel the need to emphasize on something like that when you shouldn't have to?


Why would you expect this at all? The Toad I know for either alignment doesn't seek to marginalise himself like you seem to want to be doing.

If you still need to find a guy you want to vote for, why have you made a placeholder vote? In your first post of the game you said you would only be voting for someone you definitely had a townread on.

Your play definitely needs emphasizing because it is out of character for you and it is quite important to know why.

Okay marv. How many games did we play together? Tell me just one game in which I don't do things with lacking reasoning to get some reactions.
I mean I wouldn't put it that way:
Why would you expect this at all? The Toad I know for either alignment doesn't seek to marginalise himself like you seem to want to be doing.
because that's hardly the intention but I'm doing that literally every single game.
Hence my suprise about why you're so puzzled of all people.

Oh god, is this Toad the drama queen feeling unloved because he didn't get elected party leader, so will now throw a temper tantrum by playing badly until the rest of town listens to him?

Dude, if you knew :p
I'm going to run to leader every single day from now on. I have to, it's my nature
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
November 22 2012 16:29 GMT
#1309
Marv I really want to know what's inside your head right now. Interested in sharing some thoughts?
I've seen you post quite a bunch, I've seen you mainly ask a bunch of questions that mostly had their purpose and that's fine but what's lacking is some sort of conclusion.

I think you said you don't want to vote for Kita. That's as much as it goes. You've got all those fancy questions and reactions from people that are supposed to be very interesting. And yet you're not putting some thoughts together explaining what you think is going on at all.

Would you mind doing a little of putting your thoughts together for me?
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
November 22 2012 16:41 GMT
#1323
On November 23 2012 01:33 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2012 01:29 Toadesstern wrote:
Marv I really want to know what's inside your head right now. Interested in sharing some thoughts?
I've seen you post quite a bunch, I've seen you mainly ask a bunch of questions that mostly had their purpose and that's fine but what's lacking is some sort of conclusion.

I think you said you don't want to vote for Kita. That's as much as it goes. You've got all those fancy questions and reactions from people that are supposed to be very interesting. And yet you're not putting some thoughts together explaining what you think is going on at all.

Would you mind doing a little of putting your thoughts together for me?


I just said why I don't want kita elected. If you have any specific questions, shoot. Otherwise I don't feel the need to explain what I think about everything under the sun.

One example for you. I asked syllogism about to Prome to see if what he thought aligned with what I thought at all. I had thought Prome's votes and explanations were somewhat off, and syllo agrees (despite me not saying beforehand what I thought). On the other hand, Prome was one of the players kita was thinking of taking in his team. Hence that strengthens my resolve for liking syllo and not kita.

I just want to see a post that has some kind of train of thought involved. Putting at least some of the information you got by asking all these questions into one post that results in some kind of conclusion about someone.

A mafiaread if you want to put it bluntly.
Doesn't have to be a case, doesn't have to be a wall of text but something that is more than "I don't like you".

All I'm seeing right now is random bits of informationgathering that may or may not be used at all.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
November 22 2012 16:59 GMT
#1333
On November 23 2012 01:45 marvellosity wrote:
It should be quite clear from my filter that right now I would lynch Cave if I were given the chance.

I am somewhat suspicious of Prome for basically the reasons syllo gave. The fact I disagree with kita's reads and I don't find him as insightful as I know he can be as town makes me suspicious of him too. I am also suspicious of Clarity because he's snippy and I don't know where he's going, plus what I said to him earlier where he seems to be doing very little to work out whether his vote is placed on the right person, having sheeped me earlier. I can't quite tell right now whether his whining about being accused for his 'playstyle' is more likely to be townie or mafia.


Still I just don't like this kind of posts you're doing. It's not actually a list-post but with propper formatting it would be...
I asked for some thoughts about someone with some kind of a conclusion and you're giving me a bunch of names with a short little phrase afterwards.

Maybe I should have emphasized more on focusing on 1 guy and your reasoning for said guy being colored the way he is in your chart of awesomeness, because that's what I wanted to see. Some things that may or may not look weird in your opinion and add to a read alltogether.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
November 22 2012 17:04 GMT
#1336
On November 23 2012 02:01 marvellosity wrote:
tough titties, Toad.

okay got it, you're a hyprocrite.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
November 22 2012 17:31 GMT
#1350
On November 23 2012 02:27 Clarity_nl wrote:
That's... what I said. Or are you just emphasizing it?

I think he's emphasizing. When I read your post and you said "now everyone has 2 data points" I thought you're talking about kush having 600HP and Marv having more HP than kush and thought you misunderstood it. That is until I realized that you were referring to everyone's own HP being the 2nd data point and it actually not having anything to do with Marv.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
November 22 2012 17:55 GMT
#1389
On November 23 2012 02:52 CaveJohnson wrote:
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On November 23 2012 02:51 syllogism wrote:
I don't see why you would know your success modifier and why do you think 4 is low? I assume that is a third party claim, what do you claim your win con to be?


I'm town sadly


well the question was how you know that 4 is a low value, as in, you've got to know at least one more modifier which is supposed to be a lot higher than your own, correct?
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
November 22 2012 18:02 GMT
#1398
On November 23 2012 02:58 CaveJohnson wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2012 02:55 marvellosity wrote:
On November 23 2012 02:52 CaveJohnson wrote:
On November 23 2012 02:51 syllogism wrote:
I don't see why you would know your success modifier and why do you think 4 is low? I assume that is a third party claim, what do you claim your win con to be?


I'm town sadly


you didn't answer any of his questions.


Read the OP and maybe you will find I did

as for why 4 is low we have already had several claims in thread mine isn't the lowest but I'm not giving up near immortality for it.

we had someone claim "3" and that someone made it very clear that that number is just for the sake of writing a number rather than it actually being 3. Forgot who it was. Anything else I missed?
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
November 22 2012 18:44 GMT
#1449
I'd rather vote Drazerk than Marv lol.

But yeah I agree about the part with Syllo and Sandroba. I liked the way Syllo interacted with Sandro from the get go and unlike Kita I wouldn't say it was a sudden change of mind at all. A lot of his posts or question had some sort of disbelieve involved and I wondered if Syllos was going to just keep it that way or if he's going to really call him out on things he mentioned.
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Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
November 22 2012 19:25 GMT
#1484
On November 23 2012 04:19 Hapahauli wrote:
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On November 23 2012 04:15 Djodref wrote:
On November 23 2012 04:10 Hapahauli wrote:
On November 23 2012 04:03 Hopeless1der wrote:
On November 23 2012 03:51 Hapahauli wrote:
On November 23 2012 03:46 Keirathi wrote:
Hapa, I already explained why a candidate keeping his party hidden was a good idea.


Yeah I saw that Kei, and I think it's really really stupid. Being scared of a possible D1 mafia manipulation isn't a good reason to sheep blindly on a player.

It's like wanting to no-lynch on D1 in a normal game because there's a supposed "low chance of hitting scum." You lynch D1 anyway because of the amount of information we gain from the votecounts. Syllo is proposing an "optimal" strategy that completely neuters the amount of information we'll gain from the voting.

This is fucking retarded.

I disagree that it completely neuters the information, and I'm moving my vote to syllo.

This is completely different from a no-lynch, as you must be aware. We get to know his party. If his party fails, he will explain his reads. If they succeed, then blind faith successful, town wins the event. I respect that you want his reads upfront and feel it would make for a more informed choice of elected leader, but it is Day 1 after all, and while I think you are town Hapa, I like the plan that syllo and djo have put forth about withholding information from the scumteam to prevent harm to our possible success.

It is my opinion that this game is more heavily geared towards winning the theme than winning the mafia game, and that means succeeding at events. I think syllo is just as capable as you at picking townreads, and just as likely to be town as you are. This means that from a party leader perspective, syllo provides a better chance at succeeding in the event than you currently do.

##Unvote: sandroba
##Vote: syllogism



This is so fucking retarded. Like you've got to be kidding me. It's amazing that players are thinking like this and are a-ok with Syllo's "system" in complete blind faith.

This "voting" isn't just about determining Syllo's allignment - it's about seeing who votes for who. This gives a bunch of players to herp-derp and vote syllo (just like you're doing) with zero rationale. We want to be able to draw lines between votes and reads. I want to know who thinks who is town, and the parties that players are supporting. THAT"s the information we value here!

Because if we fail this mission, we're not going to know jack shit. Syllo explaining his choices after the fact is completely worthless, and this gives a perfect veil for mafia to hide under without making any reads.



@ Hapa

I disagree with you. This is just a matter of time. In 6 hours or so, we are going to know who were the party members and if the event has failed or not. Syllo giving explanations before and after is just going to help us to assess our read on syllo.


No goddamnit NO. NONONONONONON.

These votes aren't about determining Syllo's allignment. They're about determining the other players! Those who vote and do not vote for syllo.

In a normal mafia game, we would make reads on D2 and beyond with information of where people stand on player allignments. We would know who thought who was town/scum/etc. We don't get any of this in this system!

A bunch of people are going "I think syllo is town, and I'll vote for him." This is stupid and rediculous compared to the alternative, where players will have to think entire teams of players are town rather than syllo.

I mean holy shit, do you really want to vote/trust a guy who's saying things like this?

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On November 23 2012 04:08 syllogism wrote:
I guess if Sandroba is mafia, what I said about marvel's play not making strategical sense from mafia point of view is moot. In addition, he doesn't seem worried about dying in the near future, considering his hp related remark and him already announcing that he may run for an election in the future. Regardless, it's not relevant now and I am not going to go through his filter to determine whether it makes sense content-wise. That's not important right now though and a content based evaluation has to be made when it is.

I've a team ready. Not entirely satisfied with it as usually figuring out 3 virtually certain townies is easier; perhaps it's the format or the players complicating things or me just not being familiar with a lot of people here. Around 4 hours until deadline, is this correct?


It's actually another point about him I like. I've got the same issues. I find it more difficult to get something going in general as well. There's a shocking amount of people I don't feel comfortable judging right now which usually never happens in games. I'd say it's due to the nature of this game and the talk of today being so different from what we usually get.

I don't see a problem at all with that statement.
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Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
November 22 2012 19:34 GMT
#1496
On November 23 2012 04:31 kitaman27 wrote:
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On November 23 2012 03:54 Acrofales wrote:
Kita, you still comfortable with Promethelax?


The thing that would make me the most worried is how several players come out of the wood-works to discredit him for questionable reasoning. It could be the mafia team trying to plant their opposition to a scum buddy early, which is the only thing that concerns me. I still have a favorable opinion, but I might have someone in mind to replace him.

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On November 23 2012 04:15 syllogism wrote:
Revealing the team right now or even a few hours ago would have achieved nothing as I've been pretty much inevitable for longer than that. The reasons against disclosing the team, however, still stand.


I disagree syllo. Unless the town finally sees the light and elects me as their dear leader, it seems quite unlikely that you're not going to be elected. Revealing the team provides us reads on whether are not certain players are satisfied with your choices. Our opinions won't force you to change your mind, but it is possible we might point out something you didn't see. I don't see the point of withholding right now.


I always get the feeling people talking like this are not part of "the town" themselves...
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Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
November 22 2012 19:50 GMT
#1508
Well as mentioned I'll vote Syllo as well. Would have loved to see more people and especially Sandro's comment about my Kita vote but I had to clear things up so early thanks to Marv and Acro, it's not going to happen anyways.

##vote Syllo
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Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
November 23 2012 00:08 GMT
#1688
Good job. I'm wondering a bit why Deinosaur but it worked out fine.

Lynching Sandroba should be the way to go for today. Maybe Marv.
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Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
November 23 2012 00:12 GMT
#1696
On November 23 2012 09:10 Keirathi wrote:
@marv: why are you surprised that he took me?


You're the one who openly said you don't want to be on missions because that'll make failures more likely because you know you've got a low hidden value, aren't you?
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Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
November 23 2012 00:16 GMT
#1701
On November 23 2012 09:13 TheChronicler wrote:
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On November 23 2012 09:08 Toadesstern wrote:
Good job. I'm wondering a bit why Deinosaur but it worked out fine.

Lynching Sandroba should be the way to go for today. Maybe Marv.


Lol, nice soft defense.

How is that a soft defense?
I basicly said that I would not have picked Deinosaur, as in I didn't consider him to be a clear townie at all.
I said I want Sandroba and Marv lynch.

What part of that post is defending someone?
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Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
November 23 2012 00:42 GMT
#1716
On November 23 2012 09:31 Z-BosoN wrote:
Also, am I the only one troubled that Toad is not posting relatively at all?
In LVII he was annoying as hell with huge posts, being SK (but trying to look townie), and I haven't seen him doing this here at all...

I took a two month pause from mafia because I purposly played against my wincon last game to kill myself after the end of d1 in my last game as a ragequit because of something my teammate did. It was only a Callergame, I don't think I would have done that in a normal game but that's the reason I took a pause from mafia because I was clearly to heated up and to much into the game.

I'm actively trying to keep it reasonable this time to not get to hooked up again and have it end that way.
Ask some of the people who played the most recent Caller game. I was really pissed.
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