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Djodref
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Toad is scum. Iamp and Clarity are both town with protective roles. TheChronicler is town and says his truth. Prom is town and says his truth. Acro is 3rd party and Hopeless is town/scum. If Hopeless is town then Z-Bo might be scum. Adam is more likely to be town than scum. I'm very uncomfortable with VE. There is some 3rd party or scum among kita and CJ ? Except the part concerning Prome, would anybody agree or disagree on some points ? | ||
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Djodref
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On November 28 2012 00:28 iamperfection wrote: uh let me go check something. From my understanding you receive a notification as long as the heal does actual healing. Healing and damage prevention are different things imo. Do you know if a targeted players dies after or before damage prevention ? Do you see my point ? | ||
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Djodref
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Disclaimer: Dieno is already taken care of ! It looks like Dieno is a serious contender for the title of party leader today. I don't want people to waste heals or protections on him because I have already used a retroactive ability on him which totally protects him. I have already saved him during the second cycle I believe. So now you are free to use your abilities on someone else ^^ I aslo would like Dieno to consider taking me instead of TC on his party because I'm not fully trusting TC yet (hence my vote on Keirathi) but I'm not going to fight for it because Dieno's party is likely to succeed already imo. | ||
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Djodref
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On November 28 2012 08:12 goodkarma wrote: @Djo: While you're here: StrongandBig is scum. Please discuss. I'm not here I have to go to work. I was catching up with the thread after my morning shower and stuff... I have never claimed anything. I lied about the usage an ability that I could still have  (hint: I cannot shoot anybody in fact) and I've managed to force iamp and Adam to participate. I really liked both their reactions and I'm not wooried about them anymore.It's not the case for S&B and VE. In our last game, S&B started to do some real townie stuff when he was on the verge of being lynched. My view on him right now is that he can and have to do better if he is town. But I don't have a strong scum read on him. Null for me atm. My problem is that I don't know how to force them to participate more. And, seriously, you can totally trust Dieno to me. This ability is for real. I didn't breadcrumb but you can see some hint in my filter for my D2 save. | ||
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Djodref
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"I'm really surprised that Dieno is still alive" "How much damage did you take?" and so on. You can also notice of Dieno filter that he received a notification for a "save" if I read correctly ^^ | ||
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Djodref
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I was not asking you if you were 3P. I was just stating what conclusions I've made so far about controversial stuff. Glad to see you out in the open. I'm inclined to believe you for the moment. Your previous claim was obvious imo  Regarding Z-Bo and Hopeless, there is no associative stuff on them, but my intuition tells me there is one scum among them. | ||
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Djodref
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On November 28 2012 10:23 goodkarma wrote: @VE: How the hell was I supposed to know you were actually coming back to post more than one-liners? Saying and doing are two very different things... Now that you've decided to show up, yeah. Let's not shoot you. Cave and Adam are people I stand by vigi shooting though. I think we should better put pressure on Hopeless/Z-Bo/phagga first to see if one of them is scum tehn shoot Cave and Adam. Cave is already taking hits and I don't think it's coming from the mafia. I would say it's either town or 3rd party chasing after 3rd party. | ||
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Djodref
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Djodref
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On November 28 2012 10:51 Hopeless1der wrote: Not this game its not... Toad first, followed by whoever the fuck else. Why do you place phagga in there? Lack of content or some new triangle of scummy yelling that I'm not aware of? Phagga is playing safe and flows under the radar. Z-Bo is playing in a similar way and his activity doesn't match our mario game. I'm just getting wary of them. | ||
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Djodref
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On November 28 2012 11:53 kitaman27 wrote: The game was worded so that I had to guess who would be elected or lynched, which is why I tend to think it was a targeted ability and not something built into the game. Acro's role claim is the most important reveal since my last post so I'll go into this first. First off, we treat Acro as an anti-town player. He claims to have a different win condition than us and refuses to reveal the details of this win condition. We cannot confirm he is third party. We only know that his alignment was outed by an investigative role and that he felt claiming third party was in his best interest. We don't have confirmation that he actually used a role check on day two. Keep in mind he revealed the role of a player who already had a scum check on him. As a survivalist, there is little reason to attract extra attention. By revealing his investigative role, he only made himself more of a threat to mafia night hits. Now look at the timing of Acro's claim: Acro explains things well enough here. He was in no danger of being lynched this cycle. He was in no danger of being lynched next cycle. So as a third party player, why would he open himself up to two extra cycles of night actions if there is a player that is trying to kill him? Why not claim three cycles from now? Currently, I feel the town has given Acro far too much leeway with his secrets. He no longer gets to make his own decisions. We get to make them for him. Acro claims to have been provided a fake claim. He needs to reveal this fake claim now so we confirm it isn't counterclaimed and that no other player is able to use this claim later on. Acro needs to role claim. If he truly is a third party player who is being targeted by another player, I'm sure they've already put two and two together. Hiding this information isn't going to keep him safe. If he wants to cooperate with town he needs to reveal his role name, his role, and his win conditions. He no longer has the luxury of keeping these things secret after claiming for survival. If he refuses, we should assume he doesn't have town's best interest at heart. (Please don't shoot me for standing up to you :p ) For the team selection I propose: Dieno, syllo, clarity, TC I don't really feel I have to go into reasons for the first three players. Dieno hasn't had a chance for leadership yet and is requesting it, which is why I prefer him as leader over syllo. TC now has revealed two separate investigative checks that have benefited town. With Acro feeling necessary to claim, we can confirm the legitimacy of his check. I see no reason why someone like phagga or hap should be included over him. In the event that the mafia has the ability to day vig or exclude one of the players in this group of four players, we should probably have a backup, which should be iamperfection based upon his healing of marv, which hasn't been counterclaimed. Your team is not possible for today. We have to take only one member of our previous party. I would gladly take TC seat in this party. We don't know for sure yet that TC investigative checks are good or not. Of course, they look ok but I don't think that TC is that obvious of a town player. I hope that Dieno is going to confirm that I saved him D2 and is going to take me in his party. Dieno, syllo, Keir, Djodref is my proposition. My vote stays on Keir until Dieno takes his decision. | ||
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Djodref
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On November 28 2012 12:59 kitaman27 wrote: No need to call me names You get an anti-town check revealed on yourself, you decided to claim survivor and you that we would all be fine and dandy with it? I guess we just wait to see if the rest of the town shares my views. Gnight. WTF ? Are you implying that you have a strong town read on Hopeless ? Given TC revelation, which we cannot trust at 100% by the way, Hopeless and Acro have different alignments. I you had told me this before Acro declined to be on the party, I would have said Acro 100% town and Hopeless 100% scum. The fact that Acro declined to be in the party shows that he has town interest in mind imo. Anti-town check on Acro ? This is bullshit imo. I believe in Acro's claim and I think he has shown that he was more on town side. @Acro Could I ask you to use one of your "health" abilities on me today to show your good will ? You might have some better ide so I'll let you decide. Would you mind if you could make us a report of your night activities starting today ? | ||
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Djodref
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On November 28 2012 13:29 kitaman27 wrote: Errm not sure what you are saying here. He already claimed that he wasn't town. It doesn't mean that he is anti-town. You are clearly discrediting him when you say that we have an anti town check on him because that's not true and Acro's behavior has been clearly pro-town. He has been considered as a potential party member if you don't remember the reason why we he started to look suspicious. Anti town check ? What are you referring to ? | ||
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Djodref
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In this case, either Acro was lying about it, either he is indeed 3rd party. I really don't think that we should consider him as a target or a lynch candidate before we find other mafia players. | ||
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Djodref
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Any idea for where the 1 comes from in your 201 damage taken claimed today ? | ||
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Djodref
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On November 28 2012 21:46 Acrofales wrote: Well, that blew my theory out of the water. Difference between numbers (in hours): 10 12 14 11 15 9 12.5  my guess is that it's relayed to the number of posts in the thread ^^ I do not want to count though | ||
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Djodref
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On November 28 2012 22:20 Acrofales wrote: Then how did Hassy know beforehand that he would have to post his post at 20:00? Maybe Mementoss is drunk ^^ Anyway the countdown is going to be over soon... I guess it's for the end of the end of time, no ? | ||
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Djodref
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On November 29 2012 07:36 Hopeless1der wrote: Hurray for dead Toad. How do you know he is going to die ?1 | ||
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Djodref
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On November 29 2012 07:39 CaveJohnson wrote: Its already locked in but cheers for telling scum your max HP its exactly why I didn't mention this role's existence until now. Already locked in ? What do you mean ? | ||
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Djodref
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On November 29 2012 07:41 Clarity_nl wrote: Right, but I mean you'll be at your computer, yes? I don't know what you are trying to do but I would prefer you to save someone else if you don't mind. Confirmed townies carrying items are a priority ^^ | ||
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Djodref
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On November 29 2012 07:47 Acrofales wrote: Clarity, healing Drazerk is beyond stupid. It is uncertain that he's town. If he is town, then scum is doing us all a favour by killing him. How about you keep your heals on Dieno, Syllo, Oats, Keirathi and yourself? I'll take care of Dieno. Already said it but don't worry about him ^^ | ||
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