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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
November 25 2012 05:02 GMT
#181
I think you need a real case against Cheesecake before you make a post calling him scum. Anything else is either bad town play or blatant misdirection.
Writer@WriterYamato
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
November 25 2012 05:04 GMT
#182
On November 25 2012 12:00 Oatsmaster wrote:
Yes totally agree with Cheesecake.
only 5/9 are here, where are the rest


On November 25 2012 13:23 Oatsmaster wrote:
I got a scum feeling from cheesecake with his first 2 posts, I suggest we lynch him


I really don't understand where your trepidations are coming from. You agree with me, but get scummy feelings from me?
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Aquanim
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia2849 Posts
November 25 2012 05:06 GMT
#183
On November 25 2012 13:53 Oatsmaster wrote:
think about it if I'm scum, why would I randomly single out cheesecake? why did I even post?

WIFOM ahoy!
In all seriousness, a green flip on Mr. Cheesecake wouldn't automatically make Oatsmaster scum. Whether Cheesecake is scum or not, Oatsmaster could have a scummy feeling about him without lying. Yamato's desire to line up a day two lynch at this point makes me a little uneasy.
Aquanim
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia2849 Posts
November 25 2012 05:07 GMT
#184
I got ninja-d rather a lot.
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
November 25 2012 05:16 GMT
#185
Still feel uneasy about me?
Writer@WriterYamato
Aquanim
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia2849 Posts
November 25 2012 05:35 GMT
#186
On November 25 2012 14:16 yamato77 wrote:
Still feel uneasy about me?

A little bit.

I'd still like some input from MunkE and Kickstart (since they're from the US hopefully they'll be around). Care to throw in your thoughts?

Also, (to everyone) if you're leaving for the night/work/whatever do let us know, I'd prefer not to be talking to thin air without realising it. HeloKnight appeared to leave before things got a little interesting, but I'd like to know whether he's actually left or is still here and doesn't feel the need to respond.
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
November 25 2012 05:37 GMT
#187
Why don't you give us your actual input on Cheesecake?
Writer@WriterYamato
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
November 25 2012 05:43 GMT
#188
On November 25 2012 14:37 yamato77 wrote:
Why don't you give us your actual input on Cheesecake?


Why don't you?

Also, I like how Oats disappears when I point out the obvious contradiction in his motives.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
November 25 2012 05:53 GMT
#189
I don't really care for your topics of discussion, but that's about it.
Writer@WriterYamato
Aquanim
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia2849 Posts
November 25 2012 05:57 GMT
#190
Sure, he's made all of four five posts so far so don't expect anything insightful.

On November 25 2012 14:04 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2012 12:00 Oatsmaster wrote:
Yes totally agree with Cheesecake.
only 5/9 are here, where are the rest


Show nested quote +
On November 25 2012 13:23 Oatsmaster wrote:
I got a scum feeling from cheesecake with his first 2 posts, I suggest we lynch him


I really don't understand where your trepidations are coming from. You agree with me, but get scummy feelings from me?


I'm not liking this. In the first quote Cheesecake took, Oatsmaster is agreeing with this post:

On November 25 2012 11:55 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2012 11:33 Oatsmaster wrote:
I think that accurate day 1 reads are difficult to make due to the low sample size and if we lynch the lurkers, everyone has to contribute which will help in making more accurate reads.


Pretty obvious statement if you ask me. We just need to possess the confidence to scumhunt effectively. There is a 48 hour window between now and lynch time, so there is no reason anyone should be lurking. If we have to lynch a lurker, meh, but I'd much rather have this "small sample size" inflated within D1 so we aren't forced down the coin flip road.

Anyone else around?


which is pretty generically town-speech stuff from Mr. Cheesecake. I could well see Oatsmaster agreeing with the body of this message, BUT not liking the fact that Cheesecake is making speeches rather than poking people and looking for scum. (I'm taking a wild guess at what Oatsmaster's feeling was based on here.)

And apart from Cheesecake's questions in his first post and contentless sniping at Oatsmaster since that's all there is.
Chromatically
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1700 Posts
November 25 2012 05:57 GMT
#191
I almost went to bed and am just checking in from my phone now.
I think the Oats thing is a little silly, but he's probably just trying to spark discussion. If he is serious about the scum read, he needs to explain more.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
November 25 2012 06:00 GMT
#192
@Yamato

And what else would you suggest we discuss hmm? Lurker lynching policy is a standard for opening talk. The entirety of your input on anything so far has been about a day 2 lynch. What would you like to discuss that bears relevance to our day 1 actions?
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
November 25 2012 06:09 GMT
#193
I think the discussion is fine as it is.
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
November 25 2012 06:12 GMT
#194
That is, between Aqua and I, the only other 2 people actively keeping up.
Writer@WriterYamato
JacobStrangelove
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia1572 Posts
November 25 2012 08:19 GMT
#195
Yo! Was out drinking and missed deadlines and all. Just for those who have forgotten me I am the guy with normally too much time on his hands..

1) How many games have you played on TL?
Two one town one mafia.
2) Where do you stand on lurker lynching D1?
Prefer not to but also dislike lynching insanely active people. (harder to beat mafia with these guys out the way{that said I tend to be one of these guys})
3) Pie or Cheesecake?
Both great.

Discussion so far seems low and (almost) pointless but this is the first few hours. However talking is good, the more the easier it becomes.

Oats is totally wifom-ing it up and just a comment (while I LOVE these types of arguments apparently the "if I am scum" is a bad sign (I used it both my games but more so when I was scum) Also don't like he went right out saying lynch lurkers day one. (although I have no compassion in regards to lurkers so don't lurk don't be lynched ^^ although this lets be build up my oats style profile) Not much to go on but have to find something.

Also yamoto has black and whited this a little too much, if he is scuk (note you can say it from your side abit not effectively) he might have motivation for sheeping oats and then lynching oats.

Or he is just enthusiastic and listing an option.
Kickstart
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1941 Posts
November 25 2012 08:20 GMT
#196
Hello all,
This is my second game, my first game was mario mini mafia where town won! (we lynched mafia first day and shot one first night, hopefully we can do the same here!) you can see the game here if you want to check my filter: Mario Mini Mafia
On the lurker lynch policy, I think scum reads should trump everything because the goal of the game is to find the scum. If someone doesn't post at all then they will likely get modkilled/replaced anyways, and if someone isn't posting much at all then we need to pressure them more. But yeah if someone is hardly posting and we have nothing else to go off of then that person would be a good D1 lynch. On that note we shouldn't get bogged down in policy talk too much because it is easy for mafia to hide in it (everyone can just be like "oh yeah mmhmm lets do that that sounds good" without contributing anything at all or can just keep the policy talk going on for awhile so that no other discussion is being had.
And cheesecake all the way.

@ Oatsmaster
If you really have a scum read on Mr.Cheesecake then you need to make a case on him that tries to persuade us all. Posting "I have a feeling he is scum" is not going to make anyone throw their vote on him. Would you maybe expand a bit on why you think he is suspicious or if you still do?
JacobStrangelove
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia1572 Posts
November 25 2012 08:21 GMT
#197
Ebwop: scum* and several other miss-typed words *makes mental note to use word next time*
JacobStrangelove
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia1572 Posts
November 25 2012 08:22 GMT
#198
I agree with kick start regarding "I think scum reads should trump everything because the goal of the game is to find the scum. If someone doesn't post at all then they will likely get modkilled/replaced anyways"

if they are seriously inactive replace is likely.
Aquanim
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia2849 Posts
November 25 2012 08:48 GMT
#199
I wouldn't want to rely on modkills/replacements to fix all our lurker problems... someone who makes a handful of un-useful posts a day probably won't be replaced but is still a huge handicap.
JacobStrangelove
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia1572 Posts
November 25 2012 08:54 GMT
#200
Yeah that is why I went with seriously inactive like 1 posts a game day. But true it mainly depends on situation...
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