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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
November 15 2012 02:44 GMT
#1521
On November 15 2012 11:44 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2012 11:41 Blazinghand wrote:
On November 15 2012 11:40 DarthPunk wrote:
On November 15 2012 11:37 Clarity_nl wrote:
It would be rather odd for scum to jump on hapa that late, yes. But confirmed? No.

You are both idiots.

I was being pushed by fucking hapa. He was one of the players to initiate the lynch on me and was fine with the way it was going until marv and others realised I was townie in my death throwes.

At the end I was like HAPA is scum. Also I was the one who fucking switched at the last minute when the votes were tied. I made that lynch a certainty at the last possible second before deadline. The ACTUAL MINUTE OF THE DEADLINE.



That doesn't make you confirmed town, and you know it. Stop wasting our time and yours. I don't want to spend this night arguing with a townie so I'm gonna ignore you.


Not a confirmed town but you happily call me townie whilst decrying calling me town. You should work in advertising.


Well, I'm glad we cleared this up.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
November 15 2012 02:45 GMT
#1522
On November 15 2012 11:41 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2012 11:40 DarthPunk wrote:
On November 15 2012 11:37 Clarity_nl wrote:
It would be rather odd for scum to jump on hapa that late, yes. But confirmed? No.

You are both idiots.

I was being pushed by fucking hapa. He was one of the players to initiate the lynch on me and was fine with the way it was going until marv and others realised I was townie in my death throwes.

At the end I was like HAPA is scum. Also I was the one who fucking switched at the last minute when the votes were tied. I made that lynch a certainty at the last possible second before deadline. The ACTUAL MINUTE OF THE DEADLINE.


Why you so angry? We just lynched scum.


Cause I was almost mislynched and I didn't enjoy the view.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
November 15 2012 02:45 GMT
#1523
On November 15 2012 11:44 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2012 11:43 Clarity_nl wrote:
Did anyone know that Darth was the hammer vote until Dandel posted the votecount? I wasn't sure who had more votes at the end.

i did not actually but i don't really see what your point is.


He's saying that there's no real "hammer" vote because in the shitstorm that was the end of D1 it wasn't clear, even to keen eyed observers like us, who was going to be lynched and what the votecount was.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 15 2012 02:45 GMT
#1524
On November 15 2012 11:44 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2012 11:43 Hopeless1der wrote:
On November 15 2012 11:39 Blazinghand wrote:
On November 15 2012 11:37 iamperfection wrote:
On November 15 2012 11:36 Blazinghand wrote:
On November 15 2012 11:34 DarthPunk wrote:
Also I am confirmed town. SO suck it, all of you.


I'm not really sure how you're confirmed town. I actually think it's quite the opposite. Please explain.

he was the hammer vote wasn't he?


Yeah but I don't think anyone on the Hapa wagon is confirmed town. Even looking at my own position, there's nothing confirmed about my town-ness. I think it makes little sense for a guy like DP or me to lynch Hapa if we were scum, but we are really the opposite of confirmed town. We're scummy players with mitigating circumstances.

I have a very hard time calling DP scum right now. IF he was scum, and IF he had voted ZB instead of Hapa, and IF ZB had flipped town, would that have told us anything about Hapa? That shitstorm was so volatile that I have a hard time making sense of things with a Bowser flip. He's not confirmed in the slightest, but he looks very very townie based on those 'mitigating circumstances'.


I'm not calling DP scum either. I'm just saying he's not confirmed town-- we have no confirmed town. We're not lynching DP tomorrow and I'm sure as hell not voting him, because no case can be made against him, but that's based on his actions when his ass was on the line and his contribution to the wagon. There's no confirmed town.

There's no confirmed town.

I agree, but I don't think DP falls in the 'scummy with mitigating circumstances' category. I'm not really convinced you fall there either anymore.
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
November 15 2012 02:48 GMT
#1525
meh time for break. come back with a fresh mind.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
November 15 2012 02:48 GMT
#1526
On November 15 2012 11:45 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2012 11:44 Blazinghand wrote:
On November 15 2012 11:43 Hopeless1der wrote:
On November 15 2012 11:39 Blazinghand wrote:
On November 15 2012 11:37 iamperfection wrote:
On November 15 2012 11:36 Blazinghand wrote:
On November 15 2012 11:34 DarthPunk wrote:
Also I am confirmed town. SO suck it, all of you.


I'm not really sure how you're confirmed town. I actually think it's quite the opposite. Please explain.

he was the hammer vote wasn't he?


Yeah but I don't think anyone on the Hapa wagon is confirmed town. Even looking at my own position, there's nothing confirmed about my town-ness. I think it makes little sense for a guy like DP or me to lynch Hapa if we were scum, but we are really the opposite of confirmed town. We're scummy players with mitigating circumstances.

I have a very hard time calling DP scum right now. IF he was scum, and IF he had voted ZB instead of Hapa, and IF ZB had flipped town, would that have told us anything about Hapa? That shitstorm was so volatile that I have a hard time making sense of things with a Bowser flip. He's not confirmed in the slightest, but he looks very very townie based on those 'mitigating circumstances'.


I'm not calling DP scum either. I'm just saying he's not confirmed town-- we have no confirmed town. We're not lynching DP tomorrow and I'm sure as hell not voting him, because no case can be made against him, but that's based on his actions when his ass was on the line and his contribution to the wagon. There's no confirmed town.

There's no confirmed town.

I agree, but I don't think DP falls in the 'scummy with mitigating circumstances' category. I'm not really convinced you fall there either anymore.


Perhaps I should rephrase: "was considered scummy, but due to actions under pressure, are actually quite overwhelmingly townie"
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
November 15 2012 02:49 GMT
#1527
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debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
November 15 2012 02:50 GMT
#1528
^^That's a high five btw
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 15 2012 02:50 GMT
#1529
Darth is leaning town, hammer vote or no. He looked like a townie going down all the way.
I don't like saying confirmed. Even if I loved saying confirmed, he's not confirmed. Do not get shit like that in your heads.
I don't like the way we got there but a scum lynch is a victory in my book, and with the constant shitstorm for an hour or so there's bound to be incriminating stuff.

I'm going to bed, it's 4 am. Night all.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
November 15 2012 02:52 GMT
#1530
Guys, no one is confirmed anything. The odds are excruciatingly high that scum is on my wagon though. Fucking think. Paint yourselves as scum viewing a retarded wagon without a case on one of your teammates.
Bussing usually comes when there is a good case against someone and the risk of looking bad.
May there be scum on hapa's wagon? Yea. Both of them on his wagon? I really fucking doubt it.
Odds are there is at least one scum on my wagon. Let's think on that, shall we?

Anyways, lovely end of day, going to go sleep. See you guys tomorrow.
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
November 15 2012 02:56 GMT
#1531
I have 2 very strong town reads right now

BH and Iamp

Z-Bo is also town read
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
November 15 2012 03:01 GMT
#1532
For shits and giggles

On November 13 2012 10:01 debears wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 13 2012 09:59 Hapahauli wrote:
On November 13 2012 09:50 DarthPunk wrote:
On November 13 2012 09:47 Hapahauli wrote:
On November 13 2012 09:44 DarthPunk wrote:
On November 13 2012 09:41 Z-BosoN wrote:
Hello, sirs.
First of all I´d like to claim miller.
There are two very viable options now, regarding my alignment on this game.

I am fakeclaiming as mafia.
I am in fact a miller.

My claim here would be fairly risky as scum, and as town it makes more sense to claim so as to not waste detective checks on me, but of course this is WIFOM. I hope to show my alignment in this game through brilliant, stellar townie play, and hope town uses this factor and this factor alone when scouting my alignment.
The only thing I hope to achieve with this claim is to not be checked by an eventual cop, as that check will be guaranteed to turn red.

That being said, I look forward to playing this game. Lot's of familiar faces around, and I am curious to hear more from people I haven't played yet.

Regarding DarthPunk, don't worry, if he's scum, I'll figure it out


HI ZB <3.

Yeah ZB will figure me out If I am scum, and Vice Versa. Hapa will figure marv out and marv will figure everyone out.

GG scummers


But what if me, ZB, and marv are all scum o_O




Then Blazinghand, Debears and I will rip you all a new arsehole. <3


Oh noes! Well fortunately I'm not scum.

+ Show Spoiler +
I think.+ Show Spoiler +
*Bowzer laugh*+ Show Spoiler +
jk I'm town


On November 13 2012 09:55 iamperfection wrote:
On November 13 2012 09:52 Hapahauli wrote:
On November 13 2012 09:45 iamperfection wrote:
i guess theirs no reason not to believe zbos right? has to be to risky to do if he was scum right.


Woah woah hold-up. I'm not liking how you're trusting this claim right away.

Claiming miller is a pretty much a riskless play here. We don't know how many millers are in the setup, and as far as I'm concerned, the claim is null until Z-Bo proves otherwise.

its what i think so whatever. Zbos scum is gone put himself out there like that i dont think so.


It's not "so whatever" - I'm pretty skeptical how you're so willing to think Z-Bo is town off what looks to me like a completely null action.


Hapa, last time you did that little spoiler trick (GsL III), you were the role that you put in the spoiler.

Here, you put bowser. Now why would you put bowser out of all the scum roles? It seems to me like you were actively thinking of bowser, which you shouldn't be if you are town. I would expect you to put a town role in that spoiler

Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
November 15 2012 03:03 GMT
#1533
big plays
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 15 2012 03:21 GMT
#1534
On November 15 2012 12:01 debears wrote:
For shits and giggles

Show nested quote +
On November 13 2012 10:01 debears wrote:
On November 13 2012 09:59 Hapahauli wrote:
On November 13 2012 09:50 DarthPunk wrote:
On November 13 2012 09:47 Hapahauli wrote:
On November 13 2012 09:44 DarthPunk wrote:
On November 13 2012 09:41 Z-BosoN wrote:
Hello, sirs.
First of all I´d like to claim miller.
There are two very viable options now, regarding my alignment on this game.

I am fakeclaiming as mafia.
I am in fact a miller.

My claim here would be fairly risky as scum, and as town it makes more sense to claim so as to not waste detective checks on me, but of course this is WIFOM. I hope to show my alignment in this game through brilliant, stellar townie play, and hope town uses this factor and this factor alone when scouting my alignment.
The only thing I hope to achieve with this claim is to not be checked by an eventual cop, as that check will be guaranteed to turn red.

That being said, I look forward to playing this game. Lot's of familiar faces around, and I am curious to hear more from people I haven't played yet.

Regarding DarthPunk, don't worry, if he's scum, I'll figure it out


HI ZB <3.

Yeah ZB will figure me out If I am scum, and Vice Versa. Hapa will figure marv out and marv will figure everyone out.

GG scummers


But what if me, ZB, and marv are all scum o_O




Then Blazinghand, Debears and I will rip you all a new arsehole. <3


Oh noes! Well fortunately I'm not scum.

+ Show Spoiler +
I think.+ Show Spoiler +
*Bowzer laugh*+ Show Spoiler +
jk I'm town


On November 13 2012 09:55 iamperfection wrote:
On November 13 2012 09:52 Hapahauli wrote:
On November 13 2012 09:45 iamperfection wrote:
i guess theirs no reason not to believe zbos right? has to be to risky to do if he was scum right.


Woah woah hold-up. I'm not liking how you're trusting this claim right away.

Claiming miller is a pretty much a riskless play here. We don't know how many millers are in the setup, and as far as I'm concerned, the claim is null until Z-Bo proves otherwise.

its what i think so whatever. Zbos scum is gone put himself out there like that i dont think so.


It's not "so whatever" - I'm pretty skeptical how you're so willing to think Z-Bo is town off what looks to me like a completely null action.


Hapa, last time you did that little spoiler trick (GsL III), you were the role that you put in the spoiler.

Here, you put bowser. Now why would you put bowser out of all the scum roles? It seems to me like you were actively thinking of bowser, which you shouldn't be if you are town. I would expect you to put a town role in that spoiler


Seriously I was about to post this when I saw in Hapa's filter. Holy shit that's funny.
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
November 15 2012 04:18 GMT
#1535
:D

The wise debears never lies
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
November 15 2012 05:54 GMT
#1536
And I know you guys are gonna hate me for thus, but uh, yeah, I'm not a JK. Monday I had some family issues come up and it meant I wouldn't have much time to play through today, so I had to fake claim. Thursday and onwards I'm free though. Of course everyone is gonna be like super mad at me for this, but it worked, okay? Okay.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
November 15 2012 05:55 GMT
#1537
I believe I have acquitted myself admirably in spite of it all. And yes, I know, I always say "don't fake-claim as town under any circumstances, it's literally never a good idea" but this is the exception that proves the rule.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Kickstart
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1941 Posts
November 15 2012 05:56 GMT
#1538
On November 15 2012 14:54 Blazinghand wrote:
And I know you guys are gonna hate me for thus, but uh, yeah, I'm not a JK. Monday I had some family issues come up and it meant I wouldn't have much time to play through today, so I had to fake claim. Thursday and onwards I'm free though. Of course everyone is gonna be like super mad at me for this, but it worked, okay? Okay.

... wat

The surprises from you don't stop coming. I take back what I said about you not being suspicious!
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
November 15 2012 05:57 GMT
#1539
On November 15 2012 14:54 Blazinghand wrote:
And I know you guys are gonna hate me for thus, but uh, yeah, I'm not a JK. Monday I had some family issues come up and it meant I wouldn't have much time to play through today, so I had to fake claim. Thursday and onwards I'm free though. Of course everyone is gonna be like super mad at me for this, but it worked, okay? Okay.


you fake claimed in advance because you were worried about looking scummy for being lurky?
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
November 15 2012 06:11 GMT
#1540
on top of that, you have a 13 page filter so your story doesn't even line up
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
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