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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
November 15 2012 01:34 GMT
#1281
DP DO NOT RUN AWAY IF YOUR TOWN. Give reads on the people voting on you.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Kickstart
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1941 Posts
November 15 2012 01:34 GMT
#1282
On November 15 2012 10:33 Blazinghand wrote:
kickstart I take it all back you sexy fellow

much love friend, much love <3
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
November 15 2012 01:34 GMT
#1283
On November 15 2012 10:32 debears wrote:
Oh and btw guys

30 minutes before the lynch and hopeless still not here

last post of his

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On November 15 2012 09:52 Hopeless1der wrote:
K actually going home this time. I'll be back before the lynch, TL being down notwithstanding


That was 40 minutes ago. Long time to get home


Some people actually take a while to get home ya know? I have an hour commute myself. If he doesn't show up, then there's something to talk about.

But this logic debears... if it wasn't for DP, I'd be screaming for your lynch right now.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
November 15 2012 01:34 GMT
#1284
On November 15 2012 10:33 Clarity_nl wrote:
Marv you've been super quiet. Thoughts?

Where the hell is thrawn?


yeah i'm kinda in disarray atm. i felt quite strongly DP was town but making a random case like that is so fucking weird, i don't understand it.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
November 15 2012 01:34 GMT
#1285
EBWOP:
<3
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
November 15 2012 01:35 GMT
#1286
On November 15 2012 10:34 iamperfection wrote:
DP DO NOT RUN AWAY IF YOUR TOWN. Give reads on the people voting on you.


I just did.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
Crossfire99
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1529 Posts
November 15 2012 01:35 GMT
#1287
On November 15 2012 10:25 iamperfection wrote:
Crossfire if you run away right now i will be super pissed the next 30 or so min of your belong in this thread right now.

I am freaking in this thread. I have to catch up on a lot of stuff. I am sorry I wasn't here. I planned to be here and spend time on this game, but then my internet crapped out. I don't know how else I can apologize for this.

Anyway, I like this case by marv.

+ Show Spoiler +
On November 15 2012 08:58 marvellosity wrote:
Z-Boson

Metarelated stuff. Let's a gogo. First of all, here's a sample post from him playing scum in Newbie XXIV. You'll have to excuse the length, but the point is it's length and effort.

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On August 22 2012 02:38 Z-BosoN wrote:
@goodkarma

Well that was quick. Let me see if I understand. Now, in day 3, in a MYLO situation, you propose to.

On August 21 2012 09:16 goodkarma wrote:
Okay then. We need to be active today, and I'm wasting no time in getting started:


@Golbat:

You have a lot of explaining to do for your lurking, so please start there. Also, if you would kindly explain this quote:


On August 18 2012 15:59 Golbat wrote:
On August 18 2012 15:50 DarthPunk wrote:
On August 18 2012 15:32 Golbat wrote:
On August 18 2012 15:19 DarthPunk wrote:
On August 18 2012 15:10 Golbat wrote:
On August 18 2012 12:55 goodkarma wrote:
@YourHarry:

Any suggestions as to who this someone else is that we should lynch?


My first thoughts are either Orchrow or you.


You seem to be very interested in keeping thrawn alive as long as possible... I suggest you start making some meaningful suggestions as to who you feel looks scummier. And it would also be helpful if you commented on people's most recent cases against thrawn, Orchrow, and yourself instead of continuing to strive to keep Thrawn alive.


There are situations here where the vigi still shouldn't claim. Like what if there is an sk, but the vigi hasn't used his shot yet? A vigi counter claim here would be terrible, as he could wind up rb'ed by scum and NK'ed before he can do anything.

And if we wait, who's to say town doesn't get a successful medic save or rb? Or that scum or the sk (if he exists) doesn't just sit back and do nothing for one night? There's a few different ways that there could be an sk but fewer than two night kills.

Waiting achieves nothing. My read, and the read of several of us here, is that thrawn is scum. It's time for him to go. Read through the case points against him, and show us why you feel he might be town. It's more productive than your WIFOM defense of thrawn you're presenting now.


I am in agreement that we should just lynch thrawn here. We seem to have caught a scum or even two, I think if thrawn flips scum then YH is almost certainly scum.


You are lurking pretty hard buddy. I would also like to ask Ochrow, solarsail Z-Boson and Stutters to increase their contributions.


I agree i'm lurking, but I feel that I have at least contributed well for my sparse filter. I made my case on thrawn, and cast my vote. When I see something worth discussing I mention it. I may not be living in the thread as hard as you, harry or thrawn, but at least I've contributed. What do you suggest I do to be less "lurky"? Make a shit case on someone in a misguided attempt to look active? Last game it got me lynched and cost town a vigi shot.

I'll go over the thread again and see if anything catches my eye, but I don't really see a case I can make that hasn't already been made ATM. At the very least i'll prod some people in my next couple posts.


Why so defensive? I understand that you got lynched for being over eager in XXII but your posting is markedly different than what I experienced there (although you were only alive for 24 hours so not much of a meta to read ) my post was not a personal attack but rather a call to all lurkers to contribute something.


Apologies. I didn't mean to come off as defensive, just that I'm not intentionally lurking, just not posting uselessly. in my last game I died before I could make a big contribution, and I just want to help catch a scum before I die this game. Now is the time to step it up I guess.


I've already explained what I felt was scummy about this, but in case you need a reminder:

You seem more interested in staying alive right now than in actually scumhunting. "Not posting uselessly" is not an excuse for not posting at all. Even one one-line post explaining your absence would have been useful at this point, and you wouldn't even contribute that.

You argue to not be lurking intentionally, but I would argue that yes, lurking for 48 hours is rather intentional. There's no way that you haven't thought up anything worthwhile in that time unless if between then and now you have forgotten altogether about this thread. And why would you do that if you want to "make a big contribution" that leads to the lynch of a scum?

One more question: Why did you tunnel Thrawn so hard?


##Vote: Golbat


Wait a minute. This is do or die for the town. You plan to consolidate your vote on someone who barely has any information on him and has been a hardcore lurker since day one? Because he tunneled thrawn, as if you didn't? Oh wait, that's right, you had a very sudden change of heart. But then, you go on and say that:

(...)And finally there's the final vote count for day 2. I currently believe the Thrawn mislynch had heavy scum support. One reason scum would have for getting behind a candidate would be if one of their own also had strong support. If you look at the votes, and see where those who have established themselves as town have voted, I'm sure you'll agree the YourHarry lynch had some reputable town support behind it. And all of the current scum suspects are on the Thrawn mislynch.:


Well that's a very convenient argument, to go along with your name not being on that list. Drop in the bomb, wait for people to sheep you, then escape, no compromises.
It's also ironic you didn't think of it before, when everybody wanted Shady Sands dead, who was the top poster at the moment. I'll go ahead and post the day one votes.

ShadySands (5): SolarSail, thrawn2112, SolarSail, mkfuba07, Jhuyt, YourHarry, YourHarry
SolarSail (0): YourHarry
thrawn2112 (4): YourHarry ShadySands, Archrun, DarthPunk, Golbat
goodkarma (0): YourHarry
Jhuyt (2): goodkarma, Z-Boson
Archrun (2): Ochrow, Stutters695. Ochrow, YourHarry


Same argument you used. Look at that, everyone on ShadySands list must be quite the suspects of being scum. Because, "One reason scum would have for getting behind a candidate would be if one of their own also had strong support."

Except that he wasn't scum was he? This is because this argument is very weak. It only becomes suspicious when one target has a LOT of scumminess on him and a LOT of posts against him while the other looks so innocent and barely has anything substatial on him. This is not the case, because thrawn had a huge wall of text against him, not only the one you posted, but also the one that I did as well. DP also thought he was scum, and I will agree that the case against thrawn was fairly powerful.

DAY ONE should have been the time we should have lynched lurkers. DAY TWO, maybe. Not day 3, with a do or die scenario, against someone who, as Obvious pointed out, is clearly not giving a rat's ass about this game. This day will be the target with the greatest case against him.
I really don't like how quick it was for you to vote on golbat, and how quick some people seemed to sheep you.




Regarding YourHarry, you went from him possibly being your third suspect to him being your main suspect with this post:


On August 21 2012 17:59 goodkarma wrote:
Regarding YourHarry:

Sometimes the most obvious scum is the hardest to spot. YourHarry has a "meta" for sporadic and unpredictable play. But however strange, or different, or unpredictable his play is, if you were to look at the motivation behind his play, you can determine his alignment. With YourHarry, actions speak louder than words:

-First, YourHarry is fond of withholding information from us. YourHarry starts the game by making a weak WIFOM case on me, claiming if I'm not a mason I'm scum. He withholds his read on me for a long time until pressured to provide it, and while here maybe you could argue he had some justification, this is a recurring theme. Over and over again he's done this. With this "mason case," with vote swapping history, with providing reads on certain people (most recently, Golbat). This behavior is clearly anti-town. Obviously withholding information would be advantageous for scum as it could make it harder for others to get a good read on him. Could a townie also do this? Maybe, but this is just the tip of the iceberg.

-YourHarry is a fan of last-minute vote swapping. He has now twice last minute switched his vote to secure the mislynch of the top candidate. This behavior simply can't be ignored anymore. There is clear scum motivation here.

-The use of WIFOM first, actual use of reasoning when pressured later. He already did that today with Golbat. He started today with soft defending him, and then decides he will actually "read his filter." I'll say that again: only after defending Golbat with WIFOM does he decide it's a good idea to read his filter. Then, finally, he decides to actually present a case which is in fact against Golbat. In other words, he's demonstrated a lack of interest in actually contributing meaningfully to scumhunting.

-On top of this, today he has focused a large degree of effort on getting people to role claim. If my theory on scum's motive for the night kills is to be believed, YourHarry is trying to draw important town roles out of hiding as easy scum targets.

There's loads of scum motivation to be seen behind YourHarry's actions, and there are several cases that have already been made against him. Yet somehow he seems to have avoided getting lynched. My biggest issue with lynching him, and why he hasn't been higher on my "scum reads," has been that his play is consistently bad, and it would be easy to mislynch a town YourHarry. But if you look at his actions, they fit a scum agenda.

And finally there's the final vote count for day 2. I currently believe the Thrawn mislynch had heavy scum support. One reason scum would have for getting behind a candidate would be if one of their own also had strong support. If you look at the votes, and see where those who have established themselves as town have voted, I'm sure you'll agree the YourHarry lynch had some reputable town support behind it. And all of the current scum suspects are on the Thrawn mislynch.:

Directly from the official end of day 2 post (minus the blue text):
thrawn2112, as VisceraEyes, vigilante, was lynched!

+ Show Spoiler [Final Vote Count] +

Final Vote Count:

Thrawn2112 (5): DarthPunk, Golbat, Solarsail, goodkarma, YourHarry, Z-BosoN, Obvious.660, Solarsail, YourHarry
Obvious.660 (1): goodkarma, thrawn2112, Solarsail
YourHarry (3): DarthPunk, Jhuyt, Stutters695
goodkarma (0): Obvious.660
Jhuyt (1): thrawn2112, YourHarry


YourHarry, right now you're my top scum read.


##Unvote

##Vote: YourHarry

I encourage everyone to put together their reads, as there's still time for you to express your viewpoints before we consolidate our vote in the last 24 hours of the day. And obviously supporting or dissenting case points towards this case would be much appreciated.


Your arguments are nothing new, it's what has been stated on YourHarry since the beggining of time. The only thing new that you add is that he is suspiciously wanting everyone to roleclaim. But why do you focus on him, and blatantly ignore DarthPunk's same remark:

On August 21 2012 13:49 DarthPunk wrote:
On August 21 2012 13:24 YourHarry wrote:
Good point on scums not having time to respond to your latest post. But there were common suspicions between Golbat and Jhyut that were posted hours before deadline:

Z-boson's suspect list went: me, Jhyut, Golbat
Darth's suspect list: Golbat, Jhyut, Solar
GK's suspect list: Golbat, Jhyut, Obvious

Maybe WIFOM. But to me, I still can't get my head around scum Golbat lynching town Jhyut, who seemed to be scum Golbat's only way out.

Regards to no lynching, the only caveat for choosing to lynch today rather than tomorrow is the medic save. But if we decide to go ahead with our lynch today, I think claiming today is a good idea. We NEED a scum lynch today. And everyone claiming would make that much easier.


Sorry I am kind of busy and am not following the thread right now. but I agree with a mass claim. we are at the stage of the game where we need as much info as possible because we cannot afford a mistake. I feel really out of my depth here, scum are either afk winning or playing really well.


The same guy in which you solemnly confided your trust in your "will":

(...)I have played with DarthPunk before, and I’ve seen his scum play. He has been 10 times more proactive than he was in that game about sharing scum reads and I am convinced he is legitimately searching for scum this time around. Add to that that he’s come independently to similar reads as myself, and I feel he is my strongest town read right now. So all of you get behind him as your leader and consolidate your vote under him. There is a small (note: slim) chance that he’s scum, but you’re going to have to live with that. To have a chance of winning town needs to consolidate its vote and this is the best way to do this. Come the next night, I leave it to Darthpunk to leave his successor in a will similar to this one should he also get NK’ed.


Also, you say these incredibly serious accusations:

(...)There's loads of scum motivation to be seen behind YourHarry's actions, and there are several cases that have already been made against him. Yet somehow he seems to have avoided getting lynched. My biggest issue with lynching him, and why he hasn't been higher on my "scum reads," has been that his play is consistently bad, and it would be easy to mislynch a town YourHarry. But if you look at his actions, they fit a scum agenda.


And you don't bother explaining what you mean. You just sheep around with the main case that has already been made, add something meaningless (if you want to give it meaning, please go ahead and attack DarthPunk as well), then hint at the most serious accusations you can possibly make and don't go ahead and explain what you mean.

I agree wholeheartedly that YourHarry is scum, you can go ahead and check that in my filter , but the way you write this and the arguments you use make me feel very suspicious that you may be scum as well. Now I see that the only reason I had lifted my suspicions of you were mainly WIFOM, but your latest actions have definitely raised my eyebrows. Right now is the easiest time for a scum to slip, because any small mistake now will not slip by so easily.

One more thing, you say that the night kills were not discussed in detail. Read my filter, if you will. Actually this night's night kills is what is giving me additional ammo on YH. That soon to come.

##FoS goodkarma


Also, here is Z-Boson's filter from that game: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=359489&user=28495

Notice there are a large number of big posts. Big posts with certain conclusions. All the time. Much as here.

What's missing in Z-Boson's play this game?

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On October 21 2012 22:46 Z-BosoN wrote:
On October 21 2012 13:13 DarthPunk wrote:
Also his defense each time is oh you must be scum and trying to trick me. Nothing townie about it. And your 'meta' read is bleh.

Haha, you don't say, eh DP?



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On October 22 2012 01:03 Z-BosoN wrote:
On October 22 2012 00:52 DarthPunk wrote:
Also ZB. Postgame I would like to go through how you make such accurate reads on me all the time. It get's frustrating as scum. (and also hilarious)

Oh-oh. This obviously-I'm-town post comes mostly from scum DP. Don't get so confident, I'm not dead sure on you yet!



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On October 22 2012 01:08 Z-BosoN wrote:
Sniped by austin. There we are, finally. Now waiting for the two days of unforgiving tunneling from him
Hello Keirathi! How goes your scum life?
Any thoughts you would like to trouble us with?


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On October 22 2012 03:53 Z-BosoN wrote:
k
k
Well, you really think he is scum and should insta-die before he's even had a chance to defend himself? I'm uncomfortable sending him to his grave like this...
I'd like to know if you are scum. Think about it. It's the pro-town thing to do. If you are scum, it's pro-town because town will lynch a scum. If you are town, then it's pro-town that we don't have to kill you. Tell us


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On September 30 2012 13:32 Z-BosoN wrote:
Oh god.
Is there anyways I can mega-vote him?


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On September 30 2012 13:52 Z-BosoN wrote:
I think someone has some real issues.
Does liquid city have a psych ward?


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On October 02 2012 11:04 Z-BosoN wrote:
Omfg austin really loves me.
I'm just going to ignore you this time, I make an oath that your bad arguments will bother me no more.
You also seem a lot more scummy this game. At least on LVII your arguments made sense, from an ape's perspective.
Right now you just seem desperate.
I, Z-BosoN, solemnly swear, to never defend myself from austin's scrutiny ever again.


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On October 22 2012 05:24 Z-BosoN wrote:
Austin, holy shit.
For the first time ever, I've successfully agreed with every single thing in your post, every single thing.
/applauds

Due to recent events though, Hapa is coming off pretty suspicious to me.


This is a selection of quotes from GSL3 and Liquid City. I paste them all here to demonstrate Z-Boson's ability, and indeed propensity, to throw in light-hearted comments. He's not all serious all the time.

Look at his filter here. Can you find that? At all? No, not really. It's completely absent. Arguably, this is it:

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On November 13 2012 09:41 Z-BosoN wrote:

Regarding DarthPunk, don't worry, if he's scum, I'll figure it out


Right at the beginning. I find his attitude towards DP... not townie. There's a lack of interaction from Z-Bo towards DarthPunk that I wouldn't expect from townie Z-Bo.

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On November 13 2012 11:20 Z-BosoN wrote:
DP, that's the second time you've voted for him without saying why.
This won't do.


It goes from the above, to:

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On November 15 2012 05:16 Z-BosoN wrote:
Why not DarthPunk?
He hasn't posted much. I find him a good lynch, nevertheless. He is referring himself as a mislynch, YET AGAIN. And I've already told him he loves doing that as scum. I have no idea why he's doing it, but I'm not going to use that as a tell. I don't like how bitchy he is being, focusing most of his time in crying and whining instead of scumhunting. I'm interested to see how he goes in day two though.



He finds him a 'good lynch', but he makes it clear that he's not using the referring to self as mislynch thing as scum. Is it that he's bitchy? Is that a scumtell? Who knows. He's "interested" to see how he goes in Day 2 though. The wording is just... ick.

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On November 15 2012 08:21 Z-BosoN wrote:
Had some internet problems.. Luckily it was on control C. In reply to marvs other post:




On November 15 2012 06:14 marvellosity wrote:
On November 15 2012 06:13 Z-BosoN wrote:
On November 15 2012 06:06 marvellosity wrote:
On November 15 2012 05:16 Z-BosoN wrote:

Why not DarthPunk?
He hasn't posted much. I find him a good lynch, nevertheless. He is referring himself as a mislynch, YET AGAIN. And I've already told him he loves doing that as scum. I have no idea why he's doing it, but I'm not going to use that as a tell. I don't like how bitchy he is being, focusing most of his time in crying and whining instead of scumhunting. I'm interested to see how he goes in day two though.



i hate this. what's your read on him and why?


He can definitely be scum. The reasoning is above. I'd rather lynch Hopeless. Perhaps instead of "Why not DP?" just read "DP" and interpret that as a secondary assessment.
I'd rather lynch Hopeless though, my post says it all.
I find it interesting how you hated my bit on DP, instead of my bit on debears, your main lynch candidate. Is there anything else you want to add while you are at it? Do you agree with what I said?


I'm finding you kinda scummy all of a sudden actually.

"He can definitely be scum" is not a read, by the way. Anyone can definitely be scum.


Isn't it fucking obvious that I mean that to me he has a good chance of being scum, especially given what I've written on him?
10x better than your "I'm finding you kinda scummy" which adds shit to the thread.
If Hopeless is a 10, DP is a 7, go with that.
Try answering the question now? I phrased it very clearly and I find it important enough that I insist.




Anyways, Hopeless´s meta explanation makes sense, and that was my main issue with him. Right now I´d rather lynch DarthPunk. Gonna let marv finish to see if he will/will not change my mind.

##Unvote


There's weird things going on in this post. "If hopeless is a 10" to "his meta explanation makes sense".

Generally, given Z-Bo's intimate familiarity with DP's play and his meta, there seems to be no discernable effort to make any read on him on that basis. Z-Boson is calling DarthPunk scum right now, but there's no supporting evidence of games previously played. I don't buy it.

Also I bolded that other line where he says I should answer just because I find the wording completely unnatural. "I find it important enough that I insist".



None of this play looks like Z-Boson's town play.

When he is townie, he is very indecisive about who he wants to lynch. Just look at his filter in GSL3 or Liquid city. Liquid City his vote jumped around more times than I can count and with great uncertainty, and even his final vote he still seemed clueless. And in GSL3 he agonised for days on everyone before finally voting for someone.

Here there is no... communication with town, trying to figure things out properly. It's BAM, BlazingHand is scum. He pursues BlazingHand - and make no mistake, he can pursue very well as scum, check the filter I gave you. Then when BH is off the table, he comes back today with BAM, Hopeless is scum.

As quoted there's the absence of Z-bo interacting in a lighthearted manner with town that I am familiar with. His filter is short, with long posts, rather than longer, with lots of short posts figuring things out.

##Vote: Z-Boson


Therefore, I am switching my vote from bh who i still think is scummy, but isn't going to get lynched today, to zboson.

##Vote Z-boson

Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
November 15 2012 01:35 GMT
#1288
On November 15 2012 10:34 DarthPunk wrote:
I am flipping town.

Lynch Z-Bo and clarity.

BH and Hapa need to be looked at closely.

Marv is 100% town

Debears is my second strongest town read. You got this debears. <3

Perfection town.

Crossfire town

S&B town

Hopeless null

Everyone I missed. Null and forgettable apparently. Never been mis-lynched before. I blew chunks this game


GO town!!! <#


There's still 25 minutes left. If you're really town you'll use it to actually write cases that will convince people.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
November 15 2012 01:35 GMT
#1289
You are behind on the times crossfire.
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debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
November 15 2012 01:35 GMT
#1290
On November 15 2012 10:34 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2012 10:32 debears wrote:
Oh and btw guys

30 minutes before the lynch and hopeless still not here

last post of his

On November 15 2012 09:52 Hopeless1der wrote:
K actually going home this time. I'll be back before the lynch, TL being down notwithstanding


That was 40 minutes ago. Long time to get home


Some people actually take a while to get home ya know? I have an hour commute myself. If he doesn't show up, then there's something to talk about.

But this logic debears... if it wasn't for DP, I'd be screaming for your lynch right now.


Hapa if he doesn't show up I'm autovoting him. He said he'd be back. No maybes in there
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
November 15 2012 01:36 GMT
#1291
On November 15 2012 10:35 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2012 10:34 DarthPunk wrote:
I am flipping town.

Lynch Z-Bo and clarity.

BH and Hapa need to be looked at closely.

Marv is 100% town

Debears is my second strongest town read. You got this debears. <3

Perfection town.

Crossfire town

S&B town

Hopeless null

Everyone I missed. Null and forgettable apparently. Never been mis-lynched before. I blew chunks this game


GO town!!! <#


There's still 25 minutes left. If you're really town you'll use it to actually write cases that will convince people.


In fact, making a post like this with so much time left isn't particularly more helpful than spending 20 minutes thinking and developing it and posting it before you die. It does "appear" townie though.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
November 15 2012 01:36 GMT
#1292
On November 15 2012 10:35 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2012 10:34 iamperfection wrote:
DP DO NOT RUN AWAY IF YOUR TOWN. Give reads on the people voting on you.


I just did.


Giving reads =/= list w/out explanation
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
November 15 2012 01:36 GMT
#1293
Hey guys

If hopeless doesn't show up, can we autolynch him plz?
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
November 15 2012 01:36 GMT
#1294
On November 15 2012 10:29 debears wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2012 10:29 DarthPunk wrote:
On November 15 2012 10:25 Hapahauli wrote:
Holy scumslip DP

iamp - good stuff

OK. I was not suggesting we switch on to clarity. What I was doing is making a case I was convinced of as I promised. Obviously we are not going to lynch him. Did you see a vote?


##unvote
##Vote DarthPunk


This fucking game. How in the FLYING FUCK is that a scumslip?!?!?!?!

It would be anti town to try and persuade the entire town to vote clarity this close to dead line. Also nigh impossible.

I am being rational and realistic about my chances of voting my top scumread. Holy balls hapa.


If it's anti town to persuade town to lynch clarity, then why make a case on him?

case=persuasion


Because HE IS MY FUCKING SCUM READ THAT I SAID I WOULD BUILD A CASE ON BEFORE THE FUCKING LYNCH

ALL CAPS INITIATED
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
November 15 2012 01:37 GMT
#1295
On November 15 2012 10:35 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2012 10:34 iamperfection wrote:
DP DO NOT RUN AWAY IF YOUR TOWN. Give reads on the people voting on you.


I just did.

more
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
November 15 2012 01:37 GMT
#1296
On November 15 2012 10:36 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2012 10:29 debears wrote:
On November 15 2012 10:29 DarthPunk wrote:
On November 15 2012 10:25 Hapahauli wrote:
Holy scumslip DP

iamp - good stuff

OK. I was not suggesting we switch on to clarity. What I was doing is making a case I was convinced of as I promised. Obviously we are not going to lynch him. Did you see a vote?


##unvote
##Vote DarthPunk


This fucking game. How in the FLYING FUCK is that a scumslip?!?!?!?!

It would be anti town to try and persuade the entire town to vote clarity this close to dead line. Also nigh impossible.

I am being rational and realistic about my chances of voting my top scumread. Holy balls hapa.


If it's anti town to persuade town to lynch clarity, then why make a case on him?

case=persuasion


Because HE IS MY FUCKING SCUM READ THAT I SAID I WOULD BUILD A CASE ON BEFORE THE FUCKING LYNCH

ALL CAPS INITIATED


Shhh DP. If hopeless doesn't show up I'm voting hopeless. There's still time for you. Fight if you are town damnit
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 15 2012 01:37 GMT
#1297
On November 15 2012 10:35 Hapahauli wrote:
You are behind on the times crossfire.


I dunno. He had a "gut feeling" on me because I was the first to kind of commit to him. I can understand that if you're town.
His timing is dumb though, especially with no intention to get me lynched.
I'm super torn. If we could double lynch today I would.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
November 15 2012 01:38 GMT
#1298
On November 15 2012 10:36 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2012 10:35 DarthPunk wrote:
On November 15 2012 10:34 iamperfection wrote:
DP DO NOT RUN AWAY IF YOUR TOWN. Give reads on the people voting on you.


I just did.


Giving reads =/= list w/out explanation


take a look at their filters and try and see what I see when I am confirmed town.

I can't build ~10 cases in 30 minutes. that is an unreasonable expectation.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
November 15 2012 01:38 GMT
#1299
On November 15 2012 10:20 DarthPunk wrote:

Marvs case on ZB is really good. There is a strong correlation between his play this game and his scum game.

##Vote: Z -Boson



marv's case is basically completely based on meta...

you need to be pushin something that uses original reasoning, not sheeping
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 15 2012 01:39 GMT
#1300
On November 15 2012 10:32 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2012 10:32 debears wrote:
Oh and btw guys

30 minutes before the lynch and hopeless still not here

last post of his

On November 15 2012 09:52 Hopeless1der wrote:
K actually going home this time. I'll be back before the lynch, TL being down notwithstanding


That was 40 minutes ago. Long time to get home


He's claiming difficulty connecting to TL

No I'm not. Its roughly a 30 minute drive to get home. I work at a mine in the mountains of NE British Columbia. There isn't even cell reception on the way home (and I drove). I'm back and re-reading now.
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